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"When it came to 1973 Dead, I was always drawn to the big second-set jams, 'Dark Star' or 'The Other One,' and all of the places those songs could go that year. One week during my initial stint with the Dead, Dick was spending a lot of time listening to 9/8/73, and he could not stop raving about it. He was very intent on pointing out that despite the absence of the 'Big Two' from 1973, every song, every solo, every moment was out-of-this-world excellent. He played me the first set, giving a play-by-play of each song and what made it special. In those listening sessions, Dick taught me a lot about how to listen critically and objectively. Of course, the subjective self always creeps in, those moments when you whoop and holler at how good a performance is, but that objective listening is critical. After many days of listening, Dick moved to other eras, as was his wont, since he carried the responsibility of selecting the best Dead shows from all eras to represent the Dead’s recorded legacy. But he made it clear and inarguable that he felt 9/8/73 was one of the best-played shows from one of the Dead’s best years." - David Lemieux

Despite the gloriously blustering artwork above, the forecast for DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 38: NASSAU VETERANS MEMORIAL COLISEUM, UNIONDALE, NY, 9/8/73 is blazing hot! With a double endorsement from archivists Dick Latvala and David Lemieux, you know it's a MUST HAVE. This one's got inspired playing from start to finish, with soon-to-be-minted Wake Of The Flood classics, a first-ever "Weather Report Suite," Keith polishing his chops on "Let Me Sing Your Blues Away," Jerry tapping into era-defining sound with his Wolf guitar, and we'd be remiss if we didn't mention Bob's exquisite playing too.

Among our 2021 Dave's Picks subscribers? The subscribers-only bonus disc featuring nearly an hour and a half from 9/7/73 is coming your way too. (P.S. there's 35 minutes of 9/7/73 on Dave's Picks Vol. 38, to boot)

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 38: NASSAU VETERANS MEMORIAL COLISEUM, UNIONDALE, NY, 9/8/73 was recorded by Kidd Candelaro and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman.

Didn't subscribe? You'll want to jump on this one now as it is guaranteed to sell out.

*2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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May 20, 2021 - 6:06am

#1351

Angry Jack Straw

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Speakers

Get a pair of the Dominator MX-10s. That will solve the problem.
May 19, 2021 - 10:25pm

#1352

DeadVikes

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Carlo

Carlo,

Ha!

Man, we need a box announcement. How about tomorrow or today depending on your time zone. Let's get it out Thursday, May 20.

And stop yelling out songs we already played tonight.
May 19, 2021 - 10:08pm

#1353

carlo13

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Tea

I remember once at a giant's stadium show, I meet this chick who offered me some mushroom tea and being new to this way of consuming shrooms, I sat in my car staring up at the ceiling and realizing I swigged too much. I then started to hear the show beginning but I waited it out till I could contain myself. I finally got out of the car feeling enough time had passed and realized that the music was only a boom box playing a dead tape next to my car. I felt like a total doorknob and never mentioned it to anyone till now.
May 19, 2021 - 9:30pm

#1354

JimInMD

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Re: Oro

It sounds to me like your bass cabinets are not tall enough. A standing bass wave is 17 meters in height.. you need bigger speakers, stacks of them, preferably able to play in quadraphonic.. one 17 meter stack for each string of the bass guitar.

That is all. See my previous post on what measures to take to make this problem go away. Don't forget to destroy the credit card.
May 19, 2021 - 5:47pm

#1355

estimating prof

Joined:
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It's the tapes man...

Great discussion going here. I can't resist getting drawn in with my own 2 cents.

Caveat emptor - I am not an audio engineer or expert in such areas. I do listen to a lot of music and grateful dead shows.

My two cents is the audio "distortions" that we have commented on here are in the source recordings of Sept 8 1973.

Why do I think this?

- Dick talked about releasing this show in the 90s and Dave says it's one of his favorite 73 shows, and it was just now released 20 some years later. If you've followed Dave for any length of time, you know that he doesn't release shows with lesser audio quality unless he really has to. He's also too good of a salesman to come out and say "we didn't release this until now because the tape has some issues. Jeffrey worked on it again and says it's as good as it's gonna get, so we're releasing it because it's A Tremendous Show"...Right?

- Seems to me on any given night a recording of a grateful dead concert might not be perfect because those involved in making it were distracted - for any number of reasons.
In the grand scheme of things, it's seems to me much less likely that we would end up with as many really good recordings as we have. They stopped caring about recordings for a lot of the 80s and a lot of those tapes don't have good audio - compared to a Betty board.

- My experience with this release is that the recording of 9/8 sounds significantly different than 9/7.
9/8 was indeed jarring when I first put it on.

All that said, it really is a fantastic and unique show. I've been loving it. I listened to discs 2 and 3 at proper volume with some beverages last weekend and it knocked my socks off again.

Just can't resist a good mystery.
May 19, 2021 - 4:50pm

#1356

Sixtus_

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ORO

I bow to my new sound technician overlord.
What a fantastic and forensic analysis.
Bravo.

Sixtus
May 19, 2021 - 4:38pm

#1357

icecrmcnkd

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Nice work detective Oro

Caveat emptor indeed needed
May 19, 2021 - 4:18pm

#1358

Oroborous

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Sorry/thanks..

I’ll go back to lurking now ; )
GO AVs!
May 19, 2021 - 4:17pm

#1359

Oroborous

Joined:
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Caveat Emptor Indeed!

DaP 38
No doubt Mike, but I think some of us were concerned it was a production issue versus usual GOGD zits and all..
But!,

After furthur review, I think this is just a perfect storm of normal, smaller issues that combined can be very noticeable and thus annoying.
I think perhaps this was a case of a great show, but not the best source? Perhaps the ravages of time were more than they considered, but bye the ticket...once committed, they had to see it through?

Examples you say? Since I spent all day...
$ = quick and dirty references if you don’t want the full report lol ; )
BERTHA starts with usual opening idiosyncrasies that are not part of our focus except in how these “usual” suspects interact and combine with our target issues. Listen though to the snare, and eventually the Hi Hat (that shows up more later). Part of the problem is the snare wires resonating and bleeding through other mics. Then you throw in Bob who’s really loud. It seems his speakers must be set up in front of Billy somewhat as Bobs guitar seems to exasperate the snare problem...
You can really hear this in the quiet just after the song when Bobs banging some chords, listen to the snare wire rattle etc! It gets better but I think it’s a reoccurring ingredient of this aural stew. Bobs level and distortion (both intended and otherwise) are another stew ingredient.
Listen to both guitars and keys during the instrumental section. Think this is more normal type distortion but again, adds sometimes to the stew...

ME & MY UNCLE: more of the same early in especially...I found it useful to use my balance control throughout and it’s often the right channel where the problems mostly live.
By SUGAREE it sounds like maybe some kind of processing added for the snare issue? Early on not too bad, occasionally usual type moments of old R& R tape and/or guitar distortion, but around 6:18 you can hear some noise on the snare roll etc, by 6:23 through 6:33 you can get a good taste of the overall phenomena. But generally the song wasn’t bad.
Status quo fir next couple, LL RAIN I seemed to notice the Hi Hat more prevalent and adding to and getting snare bleed etc. Made me think there’s something up with one of the Drum overhead mics? If so, bleed from everything! would exasperate an issue there? Perhaps another stew ingredient...Bob has some noticeable distortion, perhaps “normal” around 3:45 or so and 4:40+. It overall kind of kicks in on the end chorus’, but not too bad overall.
JACK STRAW not so bad, a little somethin round 3:40 with snare/hat/cymbals?
Also, I think this show suffers overall from the goofy custom condenser vocal mics that add to our stew. Listen to the end of Row J between the 8:30 and 9:00 mark...
Let It Grow is overall not too bad. Get usual Phil spikes occasionally on peaks, and my notes suggest that I’m convinced much of the “problem” here and throughout is Bobs too loud? Not sure if too loud is correct, perhaps he’s playing really loud (it was a big hall with loud NY crowd for that period?) and the recordings fine, your just hearing his rig distort? But though I really dig his sound and prevalence in the mix, cause he’s killing it, perhaps he’s occasionally a tad loud relative to other sources? (Good example in upcoming tape splice)
Oh, and what the hell was that weird “organ” sound starting around 12:55 or so lol, certainly not a B3! Pretty wild whatever it was.
ROLLL OUT the Barrel sounded pretty good lol.
EYES you can get a good taste during the instrumental section around 2:30..and a good example of normal piano clipping (sensitive pickups), but then he switches to ? guessing the Rhodes, which occasionally has its own distortion characteristics, but this is more of what I call normal stuff.
Listen around 9:40+ for what I call FM like static. This is another stew ingredient that is harder to hear, not always there, but there on occasion?
More of the same minor stuff through to about 3:30 in BIG RIVER, though Bob goes way outta tune at 2:25 in GSET and seems to take a few tunes to fully get back lol.
$ LET ME SING is perhaps the best overall example of many things going on on this release. This and $ CHINA CAT are the most obvious examples of the idiosyncrasies on this release. Check out LMS at 2:00 mark and at the end etc.
check out Weirs intro licks to China Cat and some of that drum stuff at 1:30+...eventually it gets better and by RIDER it’s sorta status quo again (meaning instances but nothing huge).
From there on I mostly stopped with notes and just listened, though $ Trucking, GDTRFB etc are good examples of the “stew” especially the blending of the cymbally snare FM static with Bobs distortion whether intentional or not, it all adds up.
EDIT: $$$ end of show especially One Mo Sat is really dirty all the way around, and
TRUCKIN’ TAPE SPLICE? $$ Check out how “it” almost disappears at 4:56, actually something starts to be tweaked a little before that? Bobs not there at all until around 6:00 but he’s back at 6:22. Sounds like a tape splice, perhaps using a cassette, or perhaps some processor kicked in and out, but what’s most interesting is listen to Bob comparatively during these 2 sections, before, during, and after, it’s amazing how much different the 2 sound, especially Bob, and seemingly our phenomena too!
By George I think we’ve figured most of this out!

Conclusion: it’s the battered old tape, complicated by a perfect storm of minor, often normal anomalies, and an unusual Weir mix for good or for ill, and when occurring simultaneously, often during song peaks, it can unfortunately be distracting.
Listening equipment, environment, and personal habits no doubt play a roll in individual experiences. I can see how many folks might not notice much of this.
But on revealing equipment with certain ears it can be so obvious as to be jarring on first occasion.
Like many uncertainties, once the knowledge is gained, the dissonance is usually manageable. Getting better with every listen, though at low volume : (
VERDICT: Caveat Emptor indeed, but with perhaps an extra pinch...

EDIT: this in no way shape or form describes the musical content, which is superb!
May 19, 2021 - 3:09pm

#1360

That Mike

Joined:
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Point Set Match to Oro

Oro - That is quite a great dissertation on sound production! You know your stuff!
I’ve never had the ear of a Brian Wilson/George Martin, and I know Dick’s & Dave’s come with the odd hiccup and blemish, but at the end of the day, it’s The Grateful Dead.

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"When it came to 1973 Dead, I was always drawn to the big second-set jams, 'Dark Star' or 'The Other One,' and all of the places those songs could go that year. One week during my initial stint with the Dead, Dick was spending a lot of time listening to 9/8/73, and he could not stop raving about it. He was very intent on pointing out that despite the absence of the 'Big Two' from 1973, every song, every solo, every moment was out-of-this-world excellent. He played me the first set, giving a play-by-play of each song and what made it special. In those listening sessions, Dick taught me a lot about how to listen critically and objectively. Of course, the subjective self always creeps in, those moments when you whoop and holler at how good a performance is, but that objective listening is critical. After many days of listening, Dick moved to other eras, as was his wont, since he carried the responsibility of selecting the best Dead shows from all eras to represent the Dead’s recorded legacy. But he made it clear and inarguable that he felt 9/8/73 was one of the best-played shows from one of the Dead’s best years." - David Lemieux

Despite the gloriously blustering artwork above, the forecast for DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 38: NASSAU VETERANS MEMORIAL COLISEUM, UNIONDALE, NY, 9/8/73 is blazing hot! With a double endorsement from archivists Dick Latvala and David Lemieux, you know it's a MUST HAVE. This one's got inspired playing from start to finish, with soon-to-be-minted Wake Of The Flood classics, a first-ever "Weather Report Suite," Keith polishing his chops on "Let Me Sing Your Blues Away," Jerry tapping into era-defining sound with his Wolf guitar, and we'd be remiss if we didn't mention Bob's exquisite playing too.

Among our 2021 Dave's Picks subscribers? The subscribers-only bonus disc featuring nearly an hour and a half from 9/7/73 is coming your way too. (P.S. there's 35 minutes of 9/7/73 on Dave's Picks Vol. 38, to boot)

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 38: NASSAU VETERANS MEMORIAL COLISEUM, UNIONDALE, NY, 9/8/73 was recorded by Kidd Candelaro and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman.

Didn't subscribe? You'll want to jump on this one now as it is guaranteed to sell out.

*2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

DaP39 is 3-9-81

39
3-9

It all makes sense

Shipping notice received

Ever get the feeling that the infrastructure supporting the Grateful Dead is just like the band? Hurtling through space and time with a barely controlled abandon, as liable to blow up and any given second as to deliver something absolutely magical? Always teetering on that edge and just when you think its going to be pulled apart by its own internal forces, some arcane force aligns in the cosmos and the mailbox is opened to reveal the item you thought stood no chance against the vagaries of nature?

Dave's 39 announcement

I would be a happier consumer if we knew what the show was by now ... we've got shipping notices ... and we still haven't received that email saying "we're announcing 39 at such and such a time so be ready to order at 1:00 on ...," which suggests we still may be days away from an announcement which should have been made by now ... I mean, we subscribe, we find out the first two shows long in advance of their release, and here we are at the 3rd Dave's of the year, and still no announcement on just what the show is (regardless of whether it's for sale yet). So, like, please please announce the show. :-)

#39 Announcement

As a subscriber you are reasonably certain, postal services willing, to get #39 so knowing what it is is of little importance it’s coming whatever it is. Non-subscribers can’t buy it until the release day so announcing too early is unnecessary since they always sell out so don’t need much promotion. No shipping notice for me in the UK yet, then again for all the recent items being told it has been shipped just means it is going to sit in California for at least five days before it actually moves to UPS. I look forward to it arriving whatever it might be.

Dave’s Picks Priority Service

Did all subscribers to the current round of DaP 2021 receive an e-mail from the above captioned service in the last day or so, asking if there were any questions regarding your order, and is there anything else we can address for you, like some five star hotel service? How proactive!

This must be what having the AMEX Platinum Bond 007 Edition ©️™️ account feels like…

DaP 39 announce mystery

No offer of premium services, questions answered etc. Shipping announcement with tracking number not always been provided me before item arrival. Never had a tracking number provided with more than one day wait before it moves, but that came Saturday morning. Nothing showing so far today, Monday, tracking still not recognized. Fortunate: only once in years of ordering has there ever been an issue, taken care of in a timely fashion. Pavlovian salivation response, drooling under control, though we have always, iirc, had announcement several days before release. Happy to have whatever they send, when we sign up for annual subscription, we roll the dice. Just nice to know how excited to become, buzz dimension created. Maybe they wanted to see our reaction, tease, remember "In the Dark?" that's where we are.
Make it right, announce tonight!

Dave's 39 is 4/26/83 Philly Spectrum!

I just got the email announcement seconds ago.

#39 announcement

I just received my email annoncement and I am very underwhelmed by this....there's a reason I don't have many '83 shows on file...oh well

4/26/83 setlist

The Spectrum, Philadelphia, PA (4/26/83)

Shakedown Street
New Minglewood Blues
They Love Each Other
Me and My Uncle
Mexicali Blues
Maybe You Know How I Feel
West L.A. Fadeaway
My Brother Esau
It Must Have Been the Roses
Let it Grow

Help on the Way
Slipknot!
Franklin's Tower
Man Smart/Woman Smarter
drums
Truckin'
Nobody's Jam
Morning Dew
Throwin' Stones
Not Fade Away

U.S. Blues

39

4/26/83
GREAT SHOW!!!!
Friday let the fun begin
PLAY DEAD LOUDER

Well, at Least They Do a Dew

It's funny: I went to more shows during the early '80s than any other period, and I always had a great time. And yet I have almost nothing from those years in my collection. Must be some reason for that. Unless there isn't. I look forward to checking this one out regardless.

Ha..

Oroborous tossed this show (Dave's 39, Spectrum '83) out on the Pick of the Day thread a little more than two weeks ago. If you haven't listened to it before, give it a try. The recording is crisp for the period and show is hot.. full of energy.

I haven't listened to the Normanized version yet, but I commented something to the effect that I thought this was a better offering than any of the previously released shows from that year. I'm looking forward to this. Great Jerry show.

Announced

There, now I'm happy, we know the show, thank you.

It doesn't have a Cumberland....

....but it's got a Shakedown! I think this is the first Dave's with one, correct?

This looks grate and Likely…

This looks grate and Likely sounds even better!

Gimme a Dew

“If the suger don’t get ya then the caffeine will”
Wait that’s the Wheel , just as long as your Wheel of Fortune doesn’t have a flat tire. Wait , that’s the Warlocks. Not Lou Reed and band but Primal Dead.

I like 1983...

but I never saw them play that year. Too busy getting married and settling down and stuff. In my mind, I was hoping for something from the Greek in '82 or '83, so I guess the old low energy powers weren't too far off. Saw 'em at the "Rectum" in '81. Lotta great fans in Philly!

Look for your supper to be good and hot

She never even put a stew bone in the pot

west LA fadeaway

West LA Fadeaway

April 26 might be the longest show of year. It was on tapers section or GD Hour a couple years ago I think

Fire up some more April 1983 Dave L.SD add filler if there's space 4.19.83 the rest of the tour is full of gems from start to finish

How about the Morning Dew summer time SPAC June 18 1983 show ?

Dane County Coliseum ? 1973 1983 combo set Dark Star Shakedown Street

HA!

Yasss, just did a good chunk of the Spring 83 tour, the rest I’d heard before including, 4/12 and 4/15 live, in on the front wall!
I’ve always been partial to 4/12 and not just because it was my first show hanging with ole Lee Esdee, but this show totally caught me by surprise! I believe it was a good sounding Healy mix so I’m very interested to see how this sounds?
So sorry, I know some folks are either bummed or will give it the ole one and done, but I think it’s one of the best from a transitional tour; relatively new PA, lights?, New Bass, and several other huge technical changes.
Hopefully it’ll sound good and some with low expectations will be surprised!

Slow Dog and Strider 😃
MIKE: good thing ya included the TM there or M might get weird...

WOOHoo, Dave’s first Shakedown! Not the GOAT, but once it gets going...

My cousin doesn't get into the Dead too much....

....he's in the group of "how many versions of (insert any song here) do you need Vince?" But....he is appreciative of Shakedown Streets. Thinking about getting an extra ala-carte and sending it to him.
I need some more Maybe You Know's.
So there!

Life in the slow lane

It does suck getting older. I slipped and fell 2 weeks ago. All weight came down on my butt and have been stiff ever since. Could not move enough to internet, so missed the St. Louis box. Hopefully find on secondary market some time in the future. Hope all are well. Will post more when I can stand sitting upright better. Where did yall learn what 39 is going to be? Hope it is good...

Gary

Sorry to hear about your fall, but the good news is that the Saint Louis Box is still available! :)

There was an e-mail sent later yesterday , announcing that DaP39 would be 04/26/83, and that orders could be placed this coming Friday.

Get well soon!

Gary

Sorry to read of your fall, and hope you make a speedy recovery. But yes, all the St Louis bundle looks to be still available-cds, vinyl, socks, tee shirts, little hats. The cds are essential, and the vinyl looks great - but I'm not so sure about the togs.

Thanks Dave and DHB

I just cant get it to load the 20 cd selection. I must be doing something wrong. Dave, got the book in that you posted 2 weeks ago. Thanks, plan to start reading soon. Cant remember if you were "Off the Road" or "Kerouac." Got both and both are new even though bought from book resellers.

Gary

I had trouble too, for a bit. I finally used the three drop-downs to select FLAC files (do I really CARE about those?--no), then had trouble realizing that I needed to click the "Pre-Order Now" button; I was looking for something more along the lines of "Add to Cart". Maybe I'm dense, but it confused me for a while . . .

Thanks again guys!

Box secured. Didn't want to miss this one. I have heard a lot of 71, but never the one in this box. Thanks to you 2 Doc! For all the 1971 write-ups so far. So glad I paid it!

Oh yeah, I like the 39 artwork. What is the girl cooking next to the grilled cheese? A veggie burrito? Dog crap?

The New Box

Gary - Sorry you took such a bad fall! Speedy recovery! I’m glad you were able to grab the new box (it is a silly ordering procedure!), and glad you got the Beat books - I recommended Carolyn Cassady’s Off The Road, so I hope you like it. Enjoy!

Hang in there Gary....

....you didn't happen to fall four flights and crack your spine did you? Because, contrary to popular belief, I don't think iodine will help.

Ok..now I remember...

as I said earlier kinda mehhh about this but I couldn't remember why I thought that on this tour...so I pulled out my CM version and some others from the tour, took a listen and yup...it's Jerry's voice, beginning to show the wear (both professionally & personally) that eventually really bummed me out...playing is really on so we shall see how ths comes out...

Re: Brewer to the rescue..

Hang in there GFar. We all have our injury ridden days and years. If I had my way.. we'd pick you up in a rainbow swirled, time traveling dirigible and float down above an outdoor 74 show of your choosing and swirl to the music floating and looking down from above..

But the best we can do, technology as it is today, is scoop up one of these classically preserved moments in history and let our minds fill in the rest.

It sucks being injured.. a big blow.. keep positive my friend.

And Nappy.. you are absolutely right. Vocals, Jerry's in general degraded in '83. I don't play the vocal fallout years often in front of others, but there are moments when he seemed to realize this made up with it with his playing. It's GD workout music for me, or a sonic substitute for cocaine, which I have not done in decades.. a pick me up. Sometimes he really fits in some outrageous riffs. Not sure if that makes sense to anyone but me, but.....

Beats

Gary-yes, I recommended "Kerouac". "Off The Road" is a great book too, though. I have fond memories of the Ann Charters book because it was my introduction to their world. About 1982 I read it. Followed by everything I could get my hands on by the man himself.
On my one and only trip to San Francisco, "City Lights" bookshop was the first port of call. I came away with "Howl", "The Holy Goof"-a biography of Neal Cassady written by someone called William Plummer - and a few dodgy looking photos of me standing outside on "Jack Kerouac Street." On the first day back in England, I found out that the Dead were playing Wembley in October. I think just one, maybe two, dates were announced at first. 1990 all this went on .

Gary and the Dog Crap

I think they're pretzels!?!

Why they are on the grill I don't know.???

Ah . . . Shakedown Street . . .

The cover depicts Shakedown Street because this release has the first Shakedown of the DaP series . . .

I catch on slowly, but then look out! :)

Dusty Hill, RIP

And I shook that man's hand just two years ago. I am stunned.

Dennis

They’re magic pretzels, you have to heat them to activate them.

Ok..now I remember...deux

giving a better listen to my CM version of the soon to be "DaP 39"...I thnk I'll dig it more than previously thought but

1...Brent's songwriting is atrocious..His song "Maybe You Know How I Feel" is him being Michael McDonald lite and
trying to turn the band into the Grateful Doobies...
2...Somebody please take Bobby's slide away from him...horrid squeaky playing on "Minglewood"
on the plus side
3...Jerry's voice warms up a bit and gets better as the show goes on...
4...the Help > Slipknot > Franklin's > Women shines

my thoughts

The pick is questionable, but I'll get it and listen to it anyway. In fact, I'll be glad to have it. Syracuse '84 or Merriweather '84 would have been much more obvious choices for the first Shakedown in the DaP series. My choice would have been 7/28/82 for the first Shake. But, that's not why I'm getting paid the big bucks. :-)

City Lights

Thought the same thing for a moment considering 39 artwork, not very convincing pretzels, more "extruded". All the best to you for a quick recovery GaryF, careful with trips and slips, no longer bullet proof youngsters. Mention of City Lights took me back to high school days, late 60s when literate friends got me into Beat stuff, Ginsburg, Kerouac and Burroughs, still have City Lights books from back then, Ferlinghetti was a co founder. Of course we read Paul Bowles translation of Mohammed Mrabet's M'hashish and his own 100 camels in the Courtyard from City Lights. Crazy time with the draft, Kent State, going down town DC for massive anti war demonstrations, the metro police rounded up protesters by bus loads and trucked them over to RFK Stadium. We arranged to host Ginsburg at my small college in 1971 for a reading of Howl. Looking back, pretty amazing, also hosted Brownie and Sonny, Canned Heat and Gary Burton for music that year. Just picked up Ry Cooder's LA Stories, also published by City Lights. Same as some, while I will enjoy DaP 39, somewhere along 1981-82, changes with the Dead, the newer songs, Jerry's voice and behavior... I left Maine for new life in Vermont, got off the bus for a while.

Dusty Hill

still in shock, rest in peace amigo, man, he had just taken time off to have hip surgery, and now, dead. The cause of death has still not been determined but I wonder if it had anything to do with his elective surgery. The same thing happened to Alvin Lee, elective surgery? not me, I will just be in pain of limp or whatever, a hospital can be a dangerous place.

Dap 39 Departed Fontana ……

3 days ago. Hasn’t resurfaced since. Ups says it’s coming on Saturday but I kind of doubt it

just got it filler from 4-25…

just got it filler from 4-25-83 space thru encore satisfaction and 4-15-83 war memorial he's gone>little star. thank you Dave and the dead for getting the delivery squared at least here in nyc.

Lucky Peps

Still no shipping notice here.

23,572 / 25,000 landed in Chicago

To add to what JJC said, disc 2 has 4-24-83 filler

Space (10:21) > Wheel (6:05) > Playing in the Band (3:14)> Goin Down the Road Feeling Bad (7:29) > Sugar Magnolia (8:52), I Cant Get No Satisfaction (6:36)

Disc 3 has 4-15-83 filler

He's Gone(12:40), Little Star (8:22)

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