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    What's Inside:
    7 Previously Unreleased Complete Shows On 20 Discs
    Fox Theatre, St. Louis, MO 12/09/71
    Fox Theatre, St. Louis, MO 12/10/71
    Fox Theatre, St. Louis, MO 10/17/72
    Fox Theatre, St. Louis, MO 10/18/72
    Fox Theatre, St. Louis, MO 10/19/72
    Kiel Auditorium, St. Louis, MO 10/29/73
    Kiel Auditorium, St. Louis, MO 10/30/73
    Sourced from tapes recorded by Rex Jackson, Owsley "Bear" Stanley, and Kidd Candelario
    Mastered in HDCD by Jeffrey Norman
    Restoration and Speed Correction by Plangent Processes
     
    Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 13,000

    Steamboats and BBQ, ice cream cones and Mardi Gras - are you ready to laissez les bons temps rouler with the "gateway" to the Grateful Dead? Meet us, won't you, in St. Louis for seven complete and previously unreleased Dead concerts that capture the heart of the band's affinity for the River City.
     
    LISTEN TO THE RIVER: ST. LOUIS ’71 ’72 ’73 is a 20CD set featuring five shows from the Fox Theatre - December 9 and 10, 1971; October 17-19, 1972; and two from the Kiel Auditorium - October 29 and 30, 1973. 
     
    The seven shows in the collection span slightly less than two years, but they represent some of the best shows the Grateful Dead played during some of its peak tours. The music tells the story of a band evolving, changing from one sound to another seamlessly, precipitated – in large part – by significant personnel changes in the Dead’s lineup.
     
    The two 1971 shows feature the original Grateful Dead lineup plus newcomer Keith Godchaux on piano. This version of the band would hold together for the next six months as the Dead embarked upon its Europe ’72 tour. By the time the Dead returned to the Fox Theatre less than a year later, they were without Pigpen, who’d played his final show with the Dead at the Hollywood Bowl on June 17, 1972. A year after the exceptional Fox 1972 shows, the Dead came back to St. Louis, but played the much larger Kiel Auditorium, touring behind the release of WAKE OF THE FLOOD, which came out just two weeks before.
     
    All told, the band played 60 different songs during these shows highlighted by blazing romps through “Beat It On Down The Line” and “One More Saturday Night” and wistful takes on “Row Jimmy” and “Brokedown Palace” (whose lyrics give the collection its name). Meanwhile, the copious jamming ebbed and flowed like the mighty Mississippi River on multiple voyages through “The Other One” and “Dark Star.” Naturally, the band paid tribute to one of its favorite rock and rollers and one of St. Louis’ biggest stars by playing Chuck Berry songs at every show in the collection, including Pigpen galloping through “Run Rudolph Run.”  
     
    Each show has been restored and speed corrected using Plangent Processes with mastering by Jeffrey Norman. The collection comes in a slipcase with artwork by Liane Plant and features an 84-page hardbound book as well as other Dead surprises. To set the stage for the music, the liner notes provide several essays about the shows, including one by Sam Cutler, the band’s tour manager during that era, and another by Grateful Dead scholar Nicholas G. Meriwether, among others. 
     
    Due October 1st, LISTEN TO THE RIVER: ST. LOUIS ’71 ’72 ’73, is limited to 13,000 individually numbered copies and available exclusively from Dead.net.

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  • #31
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    More art

    One of the most stunning experiences I had going to an art gallery was when I went to see "Sunflowers" by Van Gogh a few years ago. I eventually found the room it was in, and noticed a huddle of people in front of a painting on the far side of the room. One of them moved..and there it was. It had a spotlight on it so that the yellow of the flowers shone out into the room. Amazing...but as I got closer, I realised that it didn't have a light on it at all - the light was actually coming out from within the painting. Truly extraordinary.
    It's also quite an experience going to see his work in the Rijksmuseum in Amsterdam. I just wandered in there by chance about 30 years ago. Wow.

  • #32
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    per usual!
    Thanks, lol, never knew that request page existed. Goes to show, just gotta poke around!
    Those will get utilized more now for sure…Smithers, release the hounds!

    Yeah that RFK was probably too many units for what it was? Good example of doing say one of these a year at lower unit count along with a more traditional box release at perhaps less units?
    But I liked RFK, (hell I think they’ve done a great job with most) because that stretch from summer through the next summer is prime time for moi, and it sounds great, but they certainly weren’t the best available, once again the ole he went to a great city and street, but picked the wrong house? ? Wasn’t it relatively pricey too?
    But as we’ve all been saying, there’s a whole lot of causal heads out there who might not buy anything UNLESS it was something they were at. Perhaps explains the Giants phenomenon some what?
    That was sorta my M.O. back around turn of the century: “I have more than I need so I’m only going to get shows I was at. That worked out sorta ok at first by sheer dumb luck, but I eventually realized
    A) I’m not going to get many of those any time soon, if at all, and
    B) I’m missing out on some killer shit!
    The E72 Dark Stars are what really brought me back. Didn’t get the trunk but picked up several of the Dark Star shows Ala cart.
    So started dabbling again, but mostly just wanted the music and not more stuff. Luckily or not, my cousin used to get a lot of the releases free through their business connections with GDP etc, but when that all changed with Rhino etc, they lost those relationships. So I was able for a while to get copies of stuff he had that I wanted.
    But then I started getting back into it, hanging with you junkies etc lol, and next thing you know I’m a “collector”, just the thing I was trying to avoid lol.
    So of course the down side of only getting copies is all the great collection stuff I missed out on!
    The biggest regrets were the FW box and Winterland 73. The FW I just wasn’t very in dead land at the time and because of the repetitive set lists figured “oh hell, I have live dead already” idiot!
    Luckily I have the mini version and you know who here tightened me up with copies of the box, so at least I have the music!
    The Winterland 73, being fall 73, which even then was one of the tours I had huge interest in, I contemplated getting it, and man, wasn’t it really cheap considering, but I cheap skated out and have been regretting it ever since!
    Some of the others I regret only as a “collector” now, though I should have grabbed that summer 78, wasn’t that another bargain box?

    So yeah Daverock, the scene was relatively small until later. When I started going in late seventies there were tour heads, but not anything like what would come. I think the whole multi show run factor contributed to this. It was now much easier to just plan on a three show run or two, especially day on weekends, then to catch 5 or 6 shows, one stop at a time up and down I 90 etc.
    Now I know old timers talk of how it changed throughout the seventies, especially that huge influx of kids like me in the mid and late seventies, but I don’t think it was near as dramatic as what we saw from late seventies up too 87 when it exploded, perhaps leveled off a bit, but continued at a steady pace that unfortunately just got too big to support it properly. Fame, the kiss of death…

    ART: not a active art participant, but sometimes you get shown the light!
    We had a great Albright Knox gallery back in the tundra, and on family vaca to Europe in late seventies, went to tge Louvre etc. Don’t recall a lot of specifics, Mono Lisa etc? But it definitely impacted my thick adolescent Beavis and Butthead dumb American skull. That whole trip would of been much more awesome if I’d only been older.
    That Hopper work is cool. I’ve seen that corner diner one but wouldn’t say I was familiar. Will have to burn a fat one and check him out. Yasss great light etc. And yes, I can only imagine how much more sharp and vivid his work would be live!
    Good sheet Mon,
    Party on Wayne!

  • #33
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    DaveRock - Awesome idea with the email to all the folks on the mailing list. Something that perhaps itemizes what is in the vaults (no use clamouring for reels that don’t exist), and survey to see what is in high demand. I know on the Neil Young site, as an example, he has a “Letters” column where he states he answers ALL the letters himself (I’ve sent a few, and always get a reply), and the bulk of requests are folks asking him to release this show, or this tour, etc, and he tells you if the request is even doable. I don’t expect the Core Four to answer Dead Head mail, but a quick email survey is interesting. Maybe it is as easy as Ice Cream Kid says, and we just hit up the request thread, but it doesn’t tell us what tapes are in the vault, and what condition, etc.

    PS - Dave, you are right about seeing the art “in person”, but of course, work of say a DaVinci is so limited, so rare, and will not ever tour, that it would be so hard to see in person, save visiting Paris or Venice. But, should a major show make the rounds, like Picasso, or Diego Rivera/Frida Khalo, I’ve made a point to see it, and you are right - seeing a picture of these works does not do them justice! There is something about seeing The One And Only of something, knowing the artist worked on this piece. I’ll paraphrase Mr Ones al a “Music is the best”: “Art - and sports - are a close second!”

  • #34
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    Crmcnkd - I hadn't noticed that section asking us to make recommendations, so thanks for pointing that out. Maybe, though, the only people likely to fill that out are the people who come on here-all the old faces-and we know what they (we, me) will say in advance. I like the idea of reaching people who may not come on here - maybe an email like we get telling us what is coming out- but asking us what we would like to see coming out instead. The key is, it has to be "them" wanting a survey - as much, if not more, than "us" wanting to fill one in.

    Oro - thinking of casual fans of different eras, it reminds me of the fact that Deadheads didn't actually exist in the 1960s. I can't imagine early fans travelling around the country to see them. I guess it started with the invite to "Deadfreaks" on "Skull and Roses", but I would think it took several years before the travelling circus developed.

    It's interesting watching a documentary on late 60's San Francisco bands called "Go Ride The Music-West Pole". The main bands on this are Jefferson Airplane and Quicksilver Messenger Service - but at one point an interviewer asks people queuing up outside a concert hall, who their favourite bands are. I was expecting them to say "The Dead" automatically-but they don't. They are mentioned but they were clearly perceived at that time as just being another band, along with the two mentioned, Steve Miller, Janis etc.

    Mike - one of the great things about going to art galleries is how much more alive the originals are compared to the prints and posters you can see anywhere. I would say that going to an art gallery to look at paintings is a bit like going out to hear live music. If you go to any gallery, look at the originals, and then go in the gift shop and look at a book reproducing the originals you have just seen, the difference between the two is shocking.

  • #35
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    Don’t forget that several people, including myself, have previously told stories about talking to other deadheads who are completely clueless or disinterested in the official releases.

    The RFK Box is 15,000 copies and not sold out, although the banner says “less than 750 left”.
    My Boxes are packed away so I can’t check what the production numbers are, but 15,000 seems to be the limit except for a few releases that need an AME.
    I think that the last few Boxes were in the 10,000-12,000 range.

    Dave’s Picks can sell 25,000 due to people buying more than one subscription and resellers.
    And if you subscribe early bird you get 13 or 14 CD’s for $100, which is a pretty good deal.

    For those wanting to take a survey, there is a page on this site called ‘Requests - Box Sets’.
    I posted on it this morning, so use the ‘recent posts’ button to get to it, or use the search box.

  • #36
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    I am enjoying the discussion, because I’m hoping the marketing folks, or even the interns working at Rhino, see that this is a very passionate group of dedicated fans. Oro, I really think you have made some great points, and it is hard to please everyone (personally I have never been a hardcore 60s Dead fan, because that was before they came along with jewels like Wake of The Flood, Mars Hotel, etc, and all the outstanding concert material those albums brought forth), but so much work goes into the sourcing and mixing of the music in these boxes, and the art work, and the history to the scene happening at the time, that most, if not all, are home runs.
    Oro, you definitely hit the mark on many points, as did others, but collectively, as a group of fans, our mantra is “Keep ‘Em Coming!”

    DR - I love a wide range of art, and even doodle a bit myself, but Hopper is definitely an artist I have held in the highest esteem, for his amazing use of light and open space to paradoxically create figures of loneliness and solitude. If I can ever get my butt to NYC, the Whitney Museum of American Art is where I plan to sleep; the guy was an American master, and really nice to hear you too see his immense talent.

    Last listen - McLaughlin/Corea - Five Peace Band Live
    On Deck - Ry Cooder - The UFO Has Landed

  • #37
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    Great Discussion

    I think I fall into the category y'all are citing here. Not quite into it as much as the die-hards but wanting it all anyway. The LTTR box was more money than I was willing to put out at the time so I chose the LIA vinyl instead. A trade off decided by my having already pre-ordered Dave's #1 vinyl and simply wanting to get more vinyl. Interestingly, all the fantastic comments have me alternately regretting my choice and being satisfied with a taste of '72. DR said recently the chunk I have on Light Into Ashes is the crux of the biscuit of the box so today I feel satisfied. My collecting took a hiatus around the time the big Europe '72 trunk came out but kindly folks here are helping me fill that void. Thanks to all for keeping the fire alive. It's so nice to have reliable information from everyone here in our disinformation shrouded world.
    Cheers all!

  • #38
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    Mike, the 60s vibe, that’s a good example of what I’m saying. To “US”, the hardcore lunatics at deadnet, there appears to be an overwhelming unified consensus demanding a 60s box, but perhaps if you did a survey like DR suggests, our sample might be quite small comparatively? Just talking out me arse, but worth a thought?
    You’d think they’d be doing marketing , but maybe not? Maybe they have been so fortunate to have enough of a loyal, reliable, bankable demand that they could just go with whatever they felt was good?

    Personally, I think it’s good when things don’t sell out immediately. Gives some folks like P.T. etc a chance to decide or what not if they want to buy it. Or maybe you didn’t hear about it right a way, and as the bastard Murphy would have it, your busted after getting yet another of your kids braces, while the other kid smashed the car, and your washing machine broke. Like “Whaaaa???, you want $300 tomorrow morning, Dooaahh”
    But these are singular micro type scenarios and we’re talking macro level.
    Maybe DR is right and the nostalgia factor is bigger then I think, in that logistically, because of age, there are more casual fans from the later years than the early ones. Hell statistically, comparatively there weren’t that many causal fans in the early years. Let’s face it, for good or for ill, as time advanced there were way more causal “lets just go party and check it out folks” going to shows.
    So maybe that’s part of it, when/if something that this larger population feels more akin to comes round, their more likely to buy it, then yet another older moldy from a time they don’t know or care about because they’ve never been in that deep?
    I guess it’s probably a perfect storm of all the things we’ve been discussing? All these factors add up and the amount of units we’re talking about isn’t really that large, so…
    But!….that’s all the more reason to deliver more, but smaller batches of certain eras!

    Though I understand why a Giants type box would sell so fast, I still, do not understand fully how this box, by now, has not? Shifting market demographics and saturation is my guess though?
    Just goes to show…

  • #39
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    ThatMike - my eyes lit up when you mentioned Edward Hopper. I really like his work too. About 20 years ago there was great exhibition on in London, and it was a real treat to be able to go from room to room and get drawn into his world. You can see his influence sometimes in films -"Deep Red" by Dario Argento features a scene that is clearly modelled on "The Nighthawks". And although I can't think of specific examples at the moment, Alfred Hitchcock and David Lynch feature scenes in some of their films that look to me to have been influenced by Hopper's way of seeing things.

  • #40
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    format? sound quality? putting great shows with good shows?

    IMO there seems to be lots of reasons why this has not sold out. I did not buy it and I buy them all. After the so so patch jobs on the PNW box which I did not care for, I passed on this box. These are all good shows, with great shows mixed in. Call me a snob but I want all great shows with no cuts or patches. If that's not possible then I will just keep what I got from the archive or from etree, why spend that kind of scratch for shows I already have that only sound a bit better?
    The format could be the reason, some only want from the era they were a part of, mostly 80's from what I gather here. I like the progression of the band from psychedelic juggernaut to what they became, but not everyone's cup of tea.
    Perhaps it's the ploy of putting out most requested shows with shows that are not up to the great show that they are centered around? The original great box was a tough act to follow, seeings how the E72 tour was their best tour and it was the first one released with a massive 73 discs. With that great price. How to follow that? It's been what tptb have been asking themselves since.
    The spring 90 boxes are a good example of that also, a great tour with consistently great shows released at a great price, which sold out quickly.
    But what do I know? just the ramblings of an old deadhead on the first day of Spring.

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What's Inside:
7 Previously Unreleased Complete Shows On 20 Discs
Fox Theatre, St. Louis, MO 12/09/71
Fox Theatre, St. Louis, MO 12/10/71
Fox Theatre, St. Louis, MO 10/17/72
Fox Theatre, St. Louis, MO 10/18/72
Fox Theatre, St. Louis, MO 10/19/72
Kiel Auditorium, St. Louis, MO 10/29/73
Kiel Auditorium, St. Louis, MO 10/30/73
Sourced from tapes recorded by Rex Jackson, Owsley "Bear" Stanley, and Kidd Candelario
Mastered in HDCD by Jeffrey Norman
Restoration and Speed Correction by Plangent Processes
 
Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 13,000

Steamboats and BBQ, ice cream cones and Mardi Gras - are you ready to laissez les bons temps rouler with the "gateway" to the Grateful Dead? Meet us, won't you, in St. Louis for seven complete and previously unreleased Dead concerts that capture the heart of the band's affinity for the River City.
 
LISTEN TO THE RIVER: ST. LOUIS ’71 ’72 ’73 is a 20CD set featuring five shows from the Fox Theatre - December 9 and 10, 1971; October 17-19, 1972; and two from the Kiel Auditorium - October 29 and 30, 1973. 
 
The seven shows in the collection span slightly less than two years, but they represent some of the best shows the Grateful Dead played during some of its peak tours. The music tells the story of a band evolving, changing from one sound to another seamlessly, precipitated – in large part – by significant personnel changes in the Dead’s lineup.
 
The two 1971 shows feature the original Grateful Dead lineup plus newcomer Keith Godchaux on piano. This version of the band would hold together for the next six months as the Dead embarked upon its Europe ’72 tour. By the time the Dead returned to the Fox Theatre less than a year later, they were without Pigpen, who’d played his final show with the Dead at the Hollywood Bowl on June 17, 1972. A year after the exceptional Fox 1972 shows, the Dead came back to St. Louis, but played the much larger Kiel Auditorium, touring behind the release of WAKE OF THE FLOOD, which came out just two weeks before.
 
All told, the band played 60 different songs during these shows highlighted by blazing romps through “Beat It On Down The Line” and “One More Saturday Night” and wistful takes on “Row Jimmy” and “Brokedown Palace” (whose lyrics give the collection its name). Meanwhile, the copious jamming ebbed and flowed like the mighty Mississippi River on multiple voyages through “The Other One” and “Dark Star.” Naturally, the band paid tribute to one of its favorite rock and rollers and one of St. Louis’ biggest stars by playing Chuck Berry songs at every show in the collection, including Pigpen galloping through “Run Rudolph Run.”  
 
Each show has been restored and speed corrected using Plangent Processes with mastering by Jeffrey Norman. The collection comes in a slipcase with artwork by Liane Plant and features an 84-page hardbound book as well as other Dead surprises. To set the stage for the music, the liner notes provide several essays about the shows, including one by Sam Cutler, the band’s tour manager during that era, and another by Grateful Dead scholar Nicholas G. Meriwether, among others. 
 
Due October 1st, LISTEN TO THE RIVER: ST. LOUIS ’71 ’72 ’73, is limited to 13,000 individually numbered copies and available exclusively from Dead.net.

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Submitted by proudfoot on Wed, 07/28/2021 - 16:59

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Old ZZ preferred by me, before they switched.

I have an old cassette of best of zz top

I aint asking for much
I say lawd take me downtown
Im just lookin for some kush

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Submitted by Butch on Wed, 07/28/2021 - 17:38

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I feel the same as when you said thanks for taking my money but filling my soul. This box set represents everything I enjoy about the Dead. I started with Veneta and Ladies and Gentlemen, and then Winterland 1973. I have not listened to any of the St. Louis shows. I feel like the guy from Animal House when he said Oh boy isn't this great!

Best Europe 72 Truckin'? Is there a better one than the 18 minute 4/11 show from Newcastle?

A bunch of friends and co-workers made the drive south to Phoeniz AZ to catch GD at Compton Terrace for a couple of shows...after the show on Saturday the 8th we headed over to the dump that is the Veteran's Memorial Coliseum to see ZZ Top on thier Recycler Tour...pretty much fun to do both in one day...RIP Dusty...

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Submitted by direwulf on Thu, 07/29/2021 - 03:08

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Wu Tang evicted outta Atlanta?! They're a NYC group through and through. Sounds like you're old landlord just evicted regular people and told you they were Wu Tang, ya sure it wasn't the landlord who was in the Klan? It was ATL after all, he sounds likes a curmudgeony racist ouch. And ZZ top was looking for tush, not kush? Right?! Songs about ass not grass, though no one rides for free still. :)

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Submitted by Oroborous on Thu, 07/29/2021 - 07:05

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Saw the Top once.
Got in for free after helping this crazy Radio dude out that was starting his own station, sort of gorilla format: play what you want etc...
We used to put windshield fliers on cars at concerts for him and he’d get us in for free.
Guys name was Bob Allen and his station was WUWU...
His big claim to fame was taking over, and barricading himself in the transmitter building, and playing nothing but Pyscho Chicken, a hilarious twist on the Talking Heads song, for several days, before they finally shut him down.
Guy was a trip! More funny, at the time I was working my first “real job” at KFC. It drove the old lady who ran it crazy!
She took it as a personal insult or something and was constantly on the phone trying to get someone to stop him lol.
Every time she’d leave, we’d change the station, which the customers thought was hilarious....
Used to get outta work, take a shower, then try and make out with my girlfriend and she’d be like “nope, get back in that shower” I could never get the greasy residue off lol. Needless to say, that one didn’t last!

I got that ish working at mcdonalds

I worked weekends but could still smell quarter pounder on my hands on wednesdays

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Submitted by proudfoot on Thu, 07/29/2021 - 08:22

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First set is actually pretty good to my ears

Then second set starts off ok and then slowly leaks air until...oh, just turn it off.

More on 86
6 28 86 is a fine lil show
6 26 86 sounds ok

Again, this is in the comfort of my home, not outdoors in HEAT and HUMIDITY for hours.

I have never heard Irvine 86...

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Submitted by Oroborous on Thu, 07/29/2021 - 08:26

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Recently listened, Felt similarly...

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Submitted by itsburnsy on Thu, 07/29/2021 - 09:43

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Tres Hombres mofos, bummed I never saw 'em, loved the 70's stuff. This documentary is excellente: That Little Ol' Band from Texas

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Submitted by billy the kid on Thu, 07/29/2021 - 10:11

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Best show of 1986. Touch of Grey & Candyman, as good as it gets. Garcia, back from the Dead, back to the Dead. You had to be there.

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Submitted by Colin Gould on Thu, 07/29/2021 - 10:27

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Holy Modal Rounders - 1st album
Coil - Live One
Material - Intonarumori
V/A - Journeys in modern jazz: Britain 1965 - 1972
Morton Feldman Crippled Symmetry: at June in Buffalo

Just revisiting a lot of old favourites and the newly released British jazz compilation.

#39 shipping notice received this morning

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Submitted by 1stshow70878 on Thu, 07/29/2021 - 12:22

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Cover band that had a show recently in SoCal that apparently was a mass-Covid19 event. The whole band has it and is advising anyone who attended to get tested and quarantine. Maybe a bit early for unmasked crowds with the Delta variant peaking. Just get a shot people. Preaching to the choir here where intelligent folks hang out. Be safe and well. Cheers!
P.S. Nappy, I went to the Sunday show 12-9-90 on the reservation (one of the 3 venues called Compton terrace I think) south of PHX. Very loose parking lot scene with no law enforcement anywhere in sight. Excellent show with Bruce on board. We got a first set Maggie's Farm and ended the set with Bruce's Valley Road. And a Brokedown encore to top it all off. Early start had us out of there by dark. Had a strange time going dosed to our R.E.I. X-mas dinner party immediately afterward. For some reason I wasn't all that hungry.

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Submitted by SPACEBROTHER on Thu, 07/29/2021 - 14:03

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Caught them several times. First time was on the Eliminator tour. Afterburner and Recycler tours had massive sport arena stage productions. Recent years they were touring theaters in stripped-down fashion.

MTV definitely changed the trajectory of their career for a while, much like the Dead. Even if you're not familiar with their music you know their beards.

I didn’t witness it personally, but it could be possible since they had a store there and maybe needed an apartment to crash at.

WU-TANG CLAN PARTIES IN ATLANTA
MTV NEWS STAFF
08/15/1997
August 15 [7:55 EDT]

The party was a celebration of the Clan's new album, "Wu-Tang Forever," going platinum, and the group decided to mark the occasion in Atlanta partly because they have a Wu-Wear clothing store there, and partly because they feel at home in that city.

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Submitted by icecrmcnkd on Thu, 07/29/2021 - 16:13

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Saw them in 92 or 93, it was a good time.
Wanted to see them at least once.

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Thu, 07/29/2021 - 17:34

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....i read that Grateful Shred story. Phish started their tour last night in Arkansas. Nary a mask to be seen. Next stop is Alabama tomorrow, then two shows in Georgia. Yeah, the shows are outdoors, but a little disappointed that people don't care, even though the band put out a press release to please mask up. We'll see how it goes.
The South is a little lax on the vax.

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Submitted by wharfrat6969 on Thu, 07/29/2021 - 19:53

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I used to jave a filler from I believe the 2nd night from 71 and there is a China Cat jam in NFA that's decently substantial. Anyone else know this?

several china cat jams in nfa, including 12 10 71

What i recommend is listening to good lovin from 1 2 72. Dont look at the set list!

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Submitted by Sixtus_ on Fri, 07/30/2021 - 06:16

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...there is also the 11/15/71 monster that has a pretty notable Chincacat Tease prior to hitting Goin Down the Road; incidentally I also happened to be listening to 5/26/72 on the way back from daycare drop off this morning, and to my pleasant surprise yet another Chinacat tease popped up at the end of the NFA.

Love is Love with a Crazy Cat Peekin'

HappY Friday DeadFreaks - oh yeah and be ready for all hell to break loose when they unleash Dave's 39 shortly...

Sixtus

P.S. Spinning 7/29/88 at the moment; also an interesting Chinacat-related nugget with a 2nd set opener of
Chinacat>Crazy Fingers>I know you Rider. I always found these uncommon pairings/split-ups totally addictive and entertaining as hell especially if you don't see 'em coming

Yes yes yes, Sixtus. I agree 100%.

Yall have probably picked up on my "dont look at the setlist" vibe. It really takes things to a higher level. Such as the encore of 5 11 86. If you dont expect it, it is thrilling to hear.

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Submitted by billy the kid on Fri, 07/30/2021 - 09:07

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What a great tune, the Dead only played it live one time. I wish they would have played Rosemary & Mtns of the Moon, durring their acoustic sets at the Warfield Theatre in 1980, that would have been amazing. It was thought that they never performed it live until they found a stash of Dec 1968 tapes, I sure wish that some of those 1968/1969 tapes will be released someday.

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Submitted by FiveBranch on Fri, 07/30/2021 - 09:46

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And don’t forget the first Tivoli show and (if memory serves correct) the tease works itself into a glorious transition for GDTRFB. Such a beaut.

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Submitted by Sixtus_ on Fri, 07/30/2021 - 10:06

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... is playing on Sirius XM. I've never heard the show despite its proximity to the next night. I had to go back and re listen, because the loose Lucy played on June 9th is nothing like I've personally heard before. It's super groovy, and they take it around the block more than once for a nice tasty little Jam in there, clocking in at almost 10 minutes. Sublime to these virgin-to-this-version ears. Highly recommend for a groovy Friday romp.

Sixtus

P.S. Looks like Dave's 39 is up

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Submitted by unkle sam on Fri, 07/30/2021 - 10:25

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Saw them in 73, Tres Hombres tour, 79 Deguello tour and that Recycler tour which was can't remember 80's for sure, Nappy that was an awesome show, when they did that disappearing act and came back recycled. The Deguello tour was great, they came up out of the floor surrounded by a ring of fire playing I want to thank you, best tune of the night, I'm just a fool for your stockings, Billy just bending strings and sheading it and way back in 73 it was so hot in July in Florida that Dusty passed out after Beer drinkers and hell raisers, therefore, no encore. Awesome band, glad I got to partake of their particular brand or blues.

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Submitted by Forensicdoceleven on Sat, 07/31/2021 - 02:02

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50 years ago today……

July 31, 1971
Yale Bowl, New Haven, Connecticut

Set 1: Truckin'-Sugaree-Mr. Charlie-Mama Tried-Big Railroad Blues-Playing In The Band-Dark Star>Bird Song-El Paso-Hard To Handle-Loser-Me And Bobby McGee

Set 2: Bertha-Big Boss Man-Me And My Uncle-Deal-China Cat Sunflower >I Know You Rider-Sing Me Back Home-Sugar Magnolia-Casey Jones-Not Fade Away>Goin’ Down The Road Feelin’ Bad>”Darkness jam”>Not Fade Away

Encores: Uncle John's Band>Johnny B. Goode

Deadicated to Jeffrey Greenberg, Bob Messina, John Starks, and Rich Petlock…..

So, how did they do???

Actually, not bad at all. Solid if unspectacular show. Little bit of Pigpen, interesting first set Star, unusual Bobby McGee set closer, Sing Me Back Home, a Darkness jam, two song encore. What’s not to like about all that?

Coffee spilled on guitars, executive nannies, homicidal maniacs, rock and roll, Grateful Dead…………

Rock on!!

Doc
……unless we can play them well…..

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Submitted by billy the kid on Sat, 07/31/2021 - 05:41

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38 years ago today I was down in Ventura to see the Dead. The crowd sang Garcia happy birthday a day early. They opened up the show on 7/30 with China Cat. Ventura was a non-stop party, from the the time you left your home to last note played.

71...I love this show. Playin' > Dark Star > Birdsong. Ja, gerne!

83...I was at this one. I think this one has the audience chanting "one more set! one more set!"

Either the 30th or the 31st has the first Touch of Grey I ever heard, and I recall it standing out to me as a great song.

This talk of Ventura reminds me of the great opening chapter in Blair Jackson's book "The Music Never Stopped." Its all about a show the Dead played there in 1982, and describes the Deadheads mingling in the area and hanging out before the show actually starts. I found it quite transporting when I first read it on a train coming out of Manchester one rainy afternoon in the early 80s. I couldn't have been further away-although I was there in my mind.

Half way through the June 1977 box, which I normally never get to. Trying to follow anniversary shows, by the time I have finished May its already September. This year I missed out the second May 77 box. I thought the first two shows in the June box were excellent. The 1st set seemed better than the second on the 8th-something I have felt with other 1977 shows. Like 5/9.

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Sat, 07/31/2021 - 12:47

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....JGB 8.1.92. Irvine Meadows. There was a giant birthday card in the concourse. I signed it of course.
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Set 1.
Cats
Mission
Waiting For A Miracle
Mississippi Moon
No Bread
Sisters & Brothers
Somebody To Love
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Set 2.
Shining Star
Tore Up
Waiting For A Miracle
Drove Dixie Down
Lay Down Sally
Midnight Moonlight
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No encore.....
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He was supposed to be going through rehab at that time. The Deads tour was canceled due to it, but he just couldn't help but to play. Rumors swirled that he blacked out backstage after the show, but played the next night in Chula Vista anyway.
I only caught the JGB 4 times, but that one was special of course.
If any of you checked out the Phil show the other day, he looks great for 81.
Still looks younger than Jerry at 53. Sigh............

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Submitted by Cousins Of The… on Sat, 07/31/2021 - 16:15

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...on 22nd in Fairfax, still billed as Jerry's birthday show and there were a coupla' huge birthday cakes which prompted some weird, rowdy food fight in the middle of that very small place. John Kahn did not make the show, Phil took his place and as added bonus, John Cipollina was running the soundboard. Show was good but not memorable except for the general weirdness; I remember Phil playing the chorus over the verses during the opening How Sweet It Is. Very strange show altogether; there was an opening act, and I swear I've never seen a band perform on such a small space: all of JGB's gear was onstage, there was nowhere for the singer to move, poor guy looked a mixed of angry and disbelief.

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Submitted by hendrixfreak on Sun, 08/01/2021 - 07:32

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Still clearly remember a woman on a man's shoulders with a cake. The crowd parted to let them reach the stage. A roadie leaned over the stage lip and secured the cake, which he paraded on stage for a cheering crowd. I was 15 years old and had just 'experienced' a few days getting to, into, and from Watkins Glen. 48 hours after arriving home, burnt to a crisp, and we took off for a two-nighter with the GD and The Band. Vivid memories of many moments at the Glen, but not so much the two nighter that followed.

But we did sing a crazed 'Happy Birthday' to Mr. Garcia. who turned 31 that night. I would turn 16 two weeks later.

Misspent youth? In spades, my friends. In spades.

Just sharing the news........

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Submitted by Oroborous on Sun, 08/01/2021 - 09:21

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to Mr G, hope yer having a great jam somewhere/somespace...

Saw his 52 in 94. Two pretty good shows actually. He seemed to be enjoying himself.

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Submitted by KeithFan2112 on Sun, 08/01/2021 - 09:55

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What would you have been doing today? Still touring with the Dead I suspect.

I read 8/1/73 was the last time he played the Strat.

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Submitted by alvarhanso on Sun, 08/01/2021 - 15:38

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I would hope if he had lived a bit longer, he would have been able to take a year or more away from touring. We're lucky we got as much time out of him as we did. But I just listened to the digital single of Sugaree from 12/10/71, and WOW, fantastic sound! The single, by the way is 24 bit 192 kHz. It sounds like a multitrack, because things are so well balanced, Keith's piano has a fantastic sound. And right there in the center of it all is the man of the hour himself, singing his heart out and already playing blistering leads on the soon to be staple.

Sidenote: I've been watching the Ken Burns miniseries Jazz after neglecting it for years (who knew it was damn near 20 hours?), and the tales of genius of Louis Armstrong and Bix Beiderbecke and many many others who revolutionized their instruments and gained some of their fame and notoriety when they recorded the standards that had already been standards by the 20s and 30s and reshaped them as their own. Jerry and the Dead did that, and added the Duke Ellington thing of composing your own library that makes an amalgamated new style, such as the case with Sugaree and the song was about to succeed it, Jack Straw. Sugaree fits into the mold of a heartbreak song, but is darker and the loping rhythm is precisely the Dead swing that set them apart as Louis Armstrong's swing invented a larger genre built upon improvisation and feel or groove rather than rote performance in perfect cadence. Jack Straw has such an authentic western feel and historical folktale vibe that people can be forgiven for questioning whether the Dead really wrote it. Like the miner that unwittingly praised Robert Hunter by remarking on the Dead odd choice of an old miner song Cumberland Blues, not realizing Hunter had written the "old standard". Jerry was the heart of that, but it took all of the weird characters to make the Dead into the unique beast they were. And I can't wait for this box set to unleash that beast's most potent furies and Plangentized!

Two months is a long wait, and I still have 5 days wait on DaP 39, which the Shakedown sounded good on tablet speaker. Shame the Touch> Playing> Terrapin from 4/25 was missing, but looking forward to the He's Gone> Bob Star. I perpetually forget about that song until somebody brings it up and then I listen to one, this time I chose the Merriweather one Jim caught, def Weir'd, but pretty cool with that Other Oneish riff going on around it. We'll see on the Rochester one.

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Submitted by Oroborous on Mon, 08/02/2021 - 08:30

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I’ve said for a long time, probably since Brentski checked out, that they should of taken another hiatus or 2.
Look how well that worked out in 75. Best thing they ever did!

And yes JG was also a playing junkie, but compare his posture, demeanor and sometimes even his playing with the Dead, to all the cool work and side projects he did near the end. JGB was awesome, his stuff with Dawg, and a bunch of cool studio work with Ornette, Sanjay, Bruce etc. He was really shining everywhere else except the Dead!
I guess it’s the ole difference between doing things because you want to, versus you have to...
Yeah, looking back you have to wonder what if....

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Submitted by proudfoot on Mon, 08/02/2021 - 09:16

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He looks a bit haggard in the Essen video
I know he was hurtin in 92 when they cancelled Eugene

A wince-inducing moment is 4 13 86 during Terrapin...he walks offstage before Inspiration part.

If only he had become a health freak.

We miss you Jerry!!!

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Submitted by hendrixfreak on Mon, 08/02/2021 - 11:39

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For Jer, it appears, the last years were indeed his "obligation" to the GD and his desire to play with his own band and pop in on Grisman as opportunities arose. Absolutely. Same h***** habit, different motivations. So '89 and '91 might have been decent GD years, but the whole run of Jerry shows sure seemed to shine.

Oh well, the guy was human and it's all over now, baby blue. Except for the pleasure we still get from the tapes. So, thanks to Bear, Betty and the boys in the crew for taping!

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Submitted by Dogon on Mon, 08/02/2021 - 22:57

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Nice that Mosaic recommendations are turning up here.
In my opinion the real meat of the catalogue remain the Blue Note sets. Of course being limited they are mostely oop. BUT the recent Joe Henderson set IS available, limited to 2500 sets, its a no brainer.
You will thank me.

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