Dave's Picks Vol. 39: The Spectrum, Philadelphia, PA 4/26/83

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We're feelin' Philly 4/26/83 and its '80s highs. See what we're on about when you pick up DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 39: THE SPECTRUM, PHILADELPHIA, PA, 4/26/83, the final show of a three-week tour, played at the venue that the Dead played more than Madison Square Garden (there's your daily dose of Dead trivia). This one fires on all cylinders, with extremely well-played, high-energy tight sets featuring newbies "West L.A. Fadeway," "My Brother Esau," rarities like Brent's tune "Maybe You Know," precise medleys "Help>Slip>Franklin's," an inspired new pairing "Throwing Stones>Not Fade Away," and the Dave's Picks debut of "Shakedown Street." And before you come down, we've got a prime slice of bonus material from the previous Spectrum show 4/25/83 and an extra dollop of '83 from the War Memorial Auditorium, Rochester, NY 4/15/83 (featuring the Bobby rarity "Little Star").

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 39: THE SPECTRUM, PHILADELPHIA, PA, 4/26/83 was recorded by Dan Healy and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman.

*2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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October 10, 2021 - 12:20pm

#41

Oroborous

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60s

It is puzzling that so few sixties have come out?
Yes their very repetitive, but look at this box, obviously that doesn’t stop em...
And yes many are short,
And there probably not as many good recordings,
but I’ll bet there’s still enough quality there to do something?
Been way too long fo sho!
October 10, 2021 - 10:28am

#42

hendrixfreak

Joined:
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Thanks gents

Icecreamed I appreciate your logic. I'd agree that ABCDs will continue to come out, interspersed with what's in the Vault. Clearly, for this St Louis box, that one ABCD reel enabled the entire box. Frankly, the list of returned Bettys is rather stunning. I'm still panting for every release and that's 50+ years after hearing AB and Skull & Roses for the first time. (Actually, I borrowed Live-Dead from a friend when it came out -- I was only 12 and couldn't make sense out of the opening to Dark Star, so I took it off the stereo and returned the LP unheard!!) And I'll leap at any '80s shows that are hot, after all, I did attend my share. Agreed, cassettes of hot shows beat multi-tracks of lacklustre performances.

Here's a curveball: whatever happened to the tape stash that Mtn Grl turned over? Those were Jer's tapes and Dave did release that killer April '70 acoustic show with the Pigpen set. But I haven't heard anymore about them, nor ever seen a list. (That probably doesn't exist outside Dave's files.) Then there are the tapes that the roadie's ex turned in, which helped create the Fox Theater/FW 69-70 release (DaP 6) and an undisclosed source of returned tapes that enabled Thelma 12-69 (DaP 9). There's a bunch we simply don't know about. And primal stuff, too. I'd think they still have a fair amount of '69 suitable for release. (DaP 40???)

Though thinking about the Vault holdings can drive me a little crazy, I'm kinda glad that Dave doesn't release a list. It keeps the surprise factor going and my earlier posts about the Vault -- how many excellent shows remain unreleased -- run to the optimistic side because Dave has many aces up his sleeve and, as I surmised earlier, he's looking for commercial patterns that could lead to a box and one-offs that work for the DaP series. I must say, while I really don't want his job, it's gotta be mighty fun. A couple tokes and a tour of the Vault would probably leave me quite worn out.

As to preservation, it's not clear to me what the process or pace is. I did get the impression from Dave's description of his DaP process that he selects a show, and THEN it gets digitized and a technical once-over to see if will stand up to release quality. I'd love to hear Dave talk about his process, which shouldn't reveal anything he doesn't want to reveal.

Meanwhile, it's been established that the OSF still has reels of GD. I asked them to keep an eye out for 9-19-72, which is in the Vault, but missing a reel. Fingers crossed, that was my first show. I did sponsor a reel myself of 1973 NRPS. OSF told me that they had opened a box marked NRPS, only to find it empty -- disaster! Yet it seems they've recovered quite a few reels somehow (mislabeled, misplaced?) since then because, obviously, they did that early NRPS box and, presumably, more NRPS releases to come in the future. Johnny Cash at the Avalon is coming out soon! They must have feelers out to innumerable artists for permission to release and they've been careful to go outside the San Francisco bands to broaden our palate. I'm, grateful.

Man, I never tire of this stuff.

And Icecreamed, the new box is pretty sweet. The setlists are mindblowing. You're gonna love it, I'm sure. I'm gonna stretch it out into the early winter just so I savor every skull fuck.

Edit: P.S. Yeah, the demographic angle (Giants box sell-out) is a strong one. I suspect that each era has its fans. I didn't see any '60s shows, but I'm on 'em like white on rice. I caught one '91 and two '92 shows after leaving the GD concert scene in '87, and I'd love to have those properly restored. And I caught shows in every year, 1980-1987, which of course I'd love to hear again. Think of it this way: if you were 25 in 1985, you're ~61 now. Still rockin'. I kinda doubt that, except for Billy the Kid, that any of us did catch '60s shows, but we're hot for 'em. Crazy good stuff.
October 10, 2021 - 10:17am

#43

Oroborous

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Cone kid DL

maybe that’s it Conekid, save up the working capital from profits now so they can afford to fix up and digitize, then add a DL series, but one that not only works, but excels. Ya know, something the Dead used to be known for: cutting edge, leading technology...
October 10, 2021 - 10:13am

#44

Oroborous

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As far as as digitization

now that Plangent can be used on cassettes, wouldn’t they want to wait on digitization?
I agree that they should get digital back up ASAP for everything, starting with the best sounding good shows as ICCK suggests, but it seems like they wait to cover the production costs until they have the years submoney in hand?

Remember this was one of the big riffs that happened between band members: some wanted to “sell out” to some corporation who would have the financial resources to digitize the whole collection, so you could get any show ala carte, but Phil was like “I’m not turning on the TV and hear Truckin’ during a Chevy commercial” not an exact quote, but he wasn’t about just selling out, he wanted to maintain control and do it their way, well maintaining the respect the music deserved. Or remember the whole Terrapin Station debacle, where Mickey said there’d be a kiosk, so you could put your order in at arrival, and pick up your shows after you toured the museum etc,
So there has been talk at least of trying to make the vault more accessible. But now that Rhino has bought at least some level of control, I don’t think their in a hurry to do any of that, which sucks.

Now if there was any forethought, Rhino et el would of been reinvesting some of the profits from all these years of windfalls to build up enough scratch so if/when the Beatty well etc runs dry, they have the cash to fix up the better cassettes, properly!, and then start pushing them out en masse? Not sure if it’s true, but a reasonable theory, that they could be marketing to the “older” crowd currently, assuming that more of the 80/90s market is younger and thus will be around longer. That seems limiting to me, but what do I know?
Personally, I’m in the All The Years combined camp: let’s get all the multitracks from any year out first, or say one box of multi’s a year at premium rate, so they can milk it along, combined with say DaP series of Beatty’s and predominantly older stuff, (perhaps with some “normal” boxes mixed in), and also offer a no frills 80/90s outlet for everyone else to enjoy, you could call it Pedro’s Picks as I’m available ; )
Sure they might not sell as much of any particular individual format/series, but cumulatively they could be selling more total! And no offense, but their doing this to make money!
October 10, 2021 - 9:44am

#45

icecrmcnkd

Joined:
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Giants Box is a grate one

Multi-track and a BluRay.
We need more video!

80/90’s multi-tracks should all be released.
And the 2-track DAT Masters if they sound good and the performance doesn’t have any major meltdowns.

As for the 80’s cassettes, if they sound good and the band is on, then release them. Especially since Plangent can now do cassettes. I would support and 80’s cassette download series, but not until Rhino figures out how to run a download service.
October 10, 2021 - 9:26am

#46

Oroborous

Joined:
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ABCD/80s etc

They needed to get returns on their investments.
I believe I read there is a NDA?

Theory: using say just four years of DaP only with 20k subs at $100 per sub = $2Mil per year (not including extra ala carte $, boxes, aprons, hatchets etc)
So that’s 8 million in four years just for DaPs...
So my theory is that after production costs and corporate profit etc, it’s taken a few years to pay some or all of that investment off, thereby loosening things up a bit. I’m sure you’ll see ABCD reels being used more then less until their either mostly gone, or the shows aren’t up to par. Hey, a well recorded lousy show is still a lousy show...
As for 80s shows, I’ve said it all along: have 2 series!
I think you snobs would be surprised how well a series dedicated to 80s and 90s “cover band” shows would sell.
I think there’s a huge army of silent heads just waiting...GIANTS box anyone? Sold out way quicker then 78, 76, PNW or the current one!
October 10, 2021 - 9:05am

#47

icecrmcnkd

Joined:
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HF, speculation

My speculation regarding the rate of ABCD releases is based on the speculation I read on these boards. I have no additional knowledge.

Regarding the STL Box, in the seaside chat Dave explains how this Box came to be. I don’t recall the details but I think it was something like most of the shows had been selected for release at some time, and he wanted to do another regional Box, and this one came together at this time, although another Box could have also come.

I think that digitization of all the analog recordings (presumably starting with the best sound quality) is a constant process because getting digital copies stored in multiple locations is an insurance policy to keep the releases and revenue coming well into the future.
You don’t want to pull a Universal Music and lose everything in a fire.
So, I think that the library of digitized shows is constantly increasing and that Dave has an ever growing selection to choose from, and then he picks a show that appeals to him at the time. In seaside chats in the past he has said how he has more than one show in mind for an upcoming release, and then makes a decision for whatever reason.

Regarding 80-85 cassettes, we basically know what sounds good because you can get copies from the torrents. There are a lot of people who do want shows from those years released, but also a lot of people who will not buy them. The Rhino business plan may be to generate as much revenue as possible from the pre-Brent years while the people who only like those years are still alive and spending money.

This has all been speculated on in the past on these boards, and I’m just respeculating.

The USPS app says that my Box is out for delivery…..
October 10, 2021 - 8:11am

#48

hendrixfreak

Joined:
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The Vault conversation, part XXIV...

So, Icecreamed, I'm curious why you say that Dave has to deal "first" with returned Bettys? I have openly speculated here that the initial plethora of ABCD-related releases in years just passed might reflect some arrangement with the gents who are ABCD to get the material out more or less immediately. Do you have any argument or evidence that that's true? Being sincere here, not snarky.

I say this because I note that only one reel in the St Louis box is from ABCD. I don't know how many reels per show were used, but is it safe to say more than 20 reels for 20 CDs' worth of music? So the St Louis box benefited from one returned reel but is by far mostly composed of reels they had in the Vault. Neither DaP 39 or 38 were from the ABCD stash.

So I'm genuinely wondering: if there is/was a deal with ABCD to get out those returned Bettys, did the initial slew of ABCD shows (spring '77, Red Rocks, etc.) in the past 2-3 (3-4?) years satisfy that agreement and now Dave is free to intersperse Vault shows with returned Bettys? That scenario seems kinda likely, in that I can imagine an ABCD deal as described above but not one that would shackle Dave for any length of time from freely choosing shows after an initial burst of ABCD releases.

I guess we can only speculate, as a confidentiality agreement probably exists.

As for speculation that we're being softened up to accept '80s shows on cassette -- a world of difference from a Betty, I think many would agree -- that is ... disturbing, to a degree. I'd probably keep subscribing even then, because as in this year, when Dave did '87 and '83 shows, he also gave us 9-73 and 4-78. The '73 shows are a must-hear, must-have for me. So I'd suck up a few '80s cassette shows to get what to me is the really good stuff. My storage situation reflects my personal approach: I've got prime shelf space in my office for '66 thru '75 GD. '76 thru '90s shows are in a tall oak bookshelf in the basement (along with 3/4s of my Jimi, all my Dylan, and other top artists, so no disrespect, just space issues).

Blah, blah, blah! My guess is that the ABCD agreement has passed its initial phase and we're now in potpourri territory. Yes, "potpourri territory"... mmm, need more coffee...
October 9, 2021 - 3:59pm

#49

icecrmcnkd

Joined:
October 20, 2015

The Vault

GD renewed the 10-year contract with Rhino a couple of years ago and will probably renew for a third term when that time comes.
So, Greek, Frost, Ventura, and others will probably get sifted through for release.
But, Dave has the returned reels to deal with first.
I think that the 80’s DaP’s we have received so far were selected so that the ‘better’ 80’s shows can be used later when there are few pre-Brent shows remaining.
October 9, 2021 - 3:08pm

#50

hendrixfreak

Joined:
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Don't be too grumpy...

I think the Vault has quite a few iconic shows tucked away, as well as tons of shows we attended and haven't heard squat from.

I'm not a natural optimist, but remember that Dave thinks the DaP series will go for 20 years. That's 100 shows, counting bonus disc. Plus he's putting out another 7-8 shows per year in a box. Another decade of boxes is another 80 shows.

All I'm saying is that, to accomplish that, Dave has to have a long-term plan, not just plucking the occasional show out of the Vault for release. I have no actual knowledge of his m.o., but it would seem to me he's got to come up with box themes that'll fly tape-wise and business-wise. So he may very well have Frost, Greek, Shoreline, Red Rocks (that's my personal desire) shows staying intact, under the radar, to enable future boxes.

Notice I didn't say something like, "Have patience..." because I want that Rocks box NOW!!

Just sayin', there's hope.

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We're feelin' Philly 4/26/83 and its '80s highs. See what we're on about when you pick up DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 39: THE SPECTRUM, PHILADELPHIA, PA, 4/26/83, the final show of a three-week tour, played at the venue that the Dead played more than Madison Square Garden (there's your daily dose of Dead trivia). This one fires on all cylinders, with extremely well-played, high-energy tight sets featuring newbies "West L.A. Fadeway," "My Brother Esau," rarities like Brent's tune "Maybe You Know," precise medleys "Help>Slip>Franklin's," an inspired new pairing "Throwing Stones>Not Fade Away," and the Dave's Picks debut of "Shakedown Street." And before you come down, we've got a prime slice of bonus material from the previous Spectrum show 4/25/83 and an extra dollop of '83 from the War Memorial Auditorium, Rochester, NY 4/15/83 (featuring the Bobby rarity "Little Star").

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 39: THE SPECTRUM, PHILADELPHIA, PA, 4/26/83 was recorded by Dan Healy and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman.

*2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

Grateful Dead Garcia Birthday shows

The Grateful Dead played 4 times on Garcia's birthday : 8/1/67 Toronto, 8/1/73 New Jersey, 8/1/82 Oklahoma, and. 8/1/94 Michigan

I attended 8-1-94

Floor seats through mail order, aisle seats Phil side, approximately along the center court line.

The jam from Space into Watchtower was cool and had a good light show.

A set 2 SBD was in circulation pretty quickly but Set 1 was noticeably absent, and I think it still hasn’t surfaced.
SBD’s from 7-31-94 also surfaced pretty quickly, although I think that they were recorded from the monitor mix.

SBD’s from The Palace the following year, 6-27,28-95 also never surfaced.
From listening to the AUD recordings those shows could potentially be official releases, and maybe were kept out of circulation. There’s some good stuff there, notably the transition from Victim to Foolish.

Happy Birthday Jerry!!!

May The Spirit>

Of Jerry commune with us all today. I am partial mainly, to good shows, and in my opinion, this is a real good show. It’s nowhere near my ‘67-‘74 preference, but it’s a fun listen, and it’s well played. I don’t live all of Dave’s Picks(or even Dick’s Picks for that matter), but I love most of them, and this for me is a keeper. Well, of course they’re ALL keepers. I’m enjoying a rainy day in mid-Atlantic region, the Dead just makes it even more enjoyable.
I sure wish I could figure out which part of grammar Dead Net is objecting to!! Sheesh.

Music is the Best!!

Meadowlands 11/10/85

Half Step-Rider 2nd set opener. My 2nd show as a 15 yr. old, lived in DE, parents let me take charted bus with juniors/seniors, keg in the back, smoking all around, with ticket to boot, 1st level, midway, Jerry's side. I have the fondest memories for my casual indoctrination into the Dead from older kids, it was so natural back then.

I was already long hair, ear pierced, wearing deer shin moccasins, smoking, listening to usual stoner music with AC/DC, Sabbath, Zeppelin,Floyd, etc. One day I'm cutting class out back the wall at Mt. Pleasant High when this older kid, I shit you not his name was Casey Jones, his main bud was Joe Kelly if anyone went to Mt, asks me I'd been to a Dead show. Goes on to explain how it's right outta what we were doing and the 60's, but alive here and now. I took a chance after getting tapes from him and others, and my parents took me to my first show 6/28/85. Like I mentioned earlier getting turned on to the Dead was just a natural progression back then.

Just popped on #39, Phil is out the gates!

@SWR

Well at least THEY got it to Morrow, GA. Hopefully you'll get it to-morrow, too! :-)

Geez, an '83 show? (RIGHT! An '83 Show!!! THANKS DAVE!!!)

It's not that I was expecting 'not to like' an '83 release, but I did feel the need to set my expectations. I was sure it would be a good 'solid' show, but I was NOT expecting the brilliance of Dave's Picks 39. WOW! To say this show is 'exceptional' is no understatement. The performance is truly fantastic & the recording is sublime. Shakedown & its funky goodness is worth the price of admission all by itself. Play it, play it again. Even though this is a soundboard (of the finest sense) you can hear the Philly crowd in between tracks going apeshit from the 1st note all the way through US Blues. There's no doubt that every bobbing & spinning head was wearing their grins ear to ear - & now so am I !!! This entire show rocks, the band is tight, & the ballanced soundscape nothing short of magnificent. Go '83! Go Dave's Picks!

So glad..

Y’all are getting yours and enjoying them!
Mine is in Denver, so now it needs to go all the way back across the state to GJ, (passing within a mile and a half of our house in route), then halfway across state to back here. Problem is I-70s been closed more than open lately through Glenwood Canyon due to mud slides associated with the big Grizzly Creek fire from last year. That means a long 2 lane detour of many extra miles and several hours to cover the usually less than an hour (from detour start/finish points) so guessing it might take a couple extra days. Tracking says late Tuesday but we won’t get our hopes up. Wednesday would be good for “batch nite” lol.

FIRST SHAKEDOWN: 3/13/81, not the GOAT, but no slouch either.

8/1/94: we were at those shows, sounds like we were pretty close to you on the floor Conekid!
Agree, those were good shows, especially for the times. Made up for the poor experience at Vermont.
Fun camping stories after 7/31 with skunks in the camp and my cousin and I unintentionally waking up the whole damn place lol.

Sounds like this is a winner....

....judging by early recipients. My delivery date got bumped up a day. Arriving manana.
Happy Birthday Jerry. When I'm down, your playing never fails to cheer me up.
Miss you every day.
I feel like hearing a Here Comes Sunshine. Brb.
Ooh look! Dave's 38 Bonus disc happens to have one!

So 33 years ago this weekend

was a fine time with David Lindley, Los Lobos & The Grateful Dead at Laguna Seca....what a great weekend we had...the following week I moved to Grand Canyon National Park where I pretty much have lived since then....

supposedly mine arrives

tommorow....

Damn, sorry...

Almost forgot, the thing I seem to do best now, ahem. Lol
A big radio hello out there to our ole buddy Skulltrip!
Glad to see you sir! We were getting worried about ya!

Great “stubborn” on a cellular level comment!
Makes me think of Anthony Hopkins in Legends of the fall “SCREW EM!!”
Be well amigo!

Laguna Seca '88 was indeed....

....a great time nappyrags. Although we missed the 29th. Oh well. At least we caught that Midnight Hour encore on Sunday Funday. And, for some reason, I can hear that Gentlemen Start Your Engines like it was yesterday.

Dave's Picks Series / Possible Digital Downloads

I wish there was a Digital Download option for Dave's Picks as it would be nice, like the Box Sets.
(16-44 / 24-96/192) resolution at the fingertips. No running out of copies and can go as far back as necessary to keep feeding our head(s) and for those that totally missed out. More revenue I would think?
Keep the CD "option" for those who prefer, but allow digital download options if ppl missed out.
Would be a great "option".

3 28 81

My solo MUATM

Essen on dvd

Sound is great!!!
Visuals!!!
OCD on my part? You betcha! However, I ain't often right, but I've never been wrong.

What a great show.

There has been a lot of Shakedown Street talk here...check out the one from this show.

Pete fookn Townshend...

morrow

/m.youtube.com/watch?v=pBFmrcWxtQ0

Laguna

another California dreamin looking kinda place I wish I’d made, but, unfortunately not...
88 line up looks sweet!
I have a tape from there? Not sure the year, but think 88, that was good? Hmmmmm?
synapses not connecting...

3/28/81: always loved this one, yaasss good Shakedown but kinda unusual if I recall?
Different location? Yeah, this was out all over the place, decent vids (for the times) and audio. Had a buddy who taped onto reel off the radio while stationed there. One of my early collection jewels.

Colorado Dead

A lot of you freaks live here in my state. I'm just sayin'. The fire smoke sucks, but other than that this is pretty good living.

Don't any of you other motherfuckers even think of moving here, permanently, for one second. Have your weekend at Red Rocks and Garden Of The Gods, then go back home. Ski Telluride, buy your T-shirt, and don't let the door hit your ass on the way out.

"Welcome to Colorado! We're full. Now get the fuck out of here."

\m/

Ha..

I think I might going to Montana soon...

Colorado?

Ledded - sounds like you own it! Or think you do.

Mr. Roger's Rocky Mountain Oysters

Don't worry, doesn't sound like its big enough for the two of us. Sheesh, I'd hate to ask for a cup of sugar. You can't even go to the ocean for real oysters. :P I agree, this release has a plethora of surprises and sounds 👌 for what I was expecting.

Plangent

Dave mentioned they used Plangent for this release. Direwulf, can you verify that?

Unfortunately, mine hasn't shipped yet so I have no idea when it will arrive.

And Dave thought this would sell out in less than two hours?? Not sure when it will sell out.

Last Settler Syndrome

I totally get Ledded's remarks in warning off would-be interlopers to Colorado. We call it the "last settler syndrome". Once you've escaped megalopolis, it's "close and lock the gate!" My wife and I live in the mountains of west Texas, 9.6 miles off pavement on a 4WD ranch road. For the first 8 years there wasn't anyone within earshot except for an occasional lost pickup grinding around in low gear – our ears would prick up and we'd wonder who'd dared to violate our tranquility. Now we grudgingly have a "neighbor" about a half mile away. Getting claustrophobic around here. Onward.

My Dave's 39 should arrive in town by tomorrow. The story of its first of only three "Little Stars" is cool:
web.archive...
org/web/20030817114106/(insert* here).elizabundledee.com/littlestar.htm
* h t t p : / / w w w (without spaces)

Umm yeah

off topic,,, what else

My paycheck last week was only 800 bucks for two weeks, but,,,,, I just bought the Mosaic Records set - "The Savory Collection"

Mosaic Records presents “The Savory Collection” – six CDs with 108 tracks locked away for more than 70 years and finally available on CD for the very first time anywhere. The recordings are from the personal collection of Bill Savory, a quirky and secretive studio engineer in New York whose day job in the late 1930s and early 1940s was transcribing radio broadcasts for foreign distribution, and whose nighttime passion was turning on the disc recorders to pull in and preserve what was happening in the clubs of New York City and other cities.

Does this sound good or what?? This is early Deadhead shit, bootlegs from the 30's/40's!!!

Had to Have!!!

Enjoy

No room at the inn

But plenty of manger space available...

Cue that Eagles song The Last Resort...

Led may be agro, but he’s not wrong!
Though I believe he lives in or around Denver, which IS a huge metropolitan area, so not sure why he’s upset now?
It’s been a cluster there for a long time...although now that half of Cali, Texas, and Florida have moved here it’s outta control there too.
Meanwhile, out in the boonies, the population in our town has more than tripled in the last twenty years.
Fucking town council people never met a developer they didn’t like, WHORES!
The point of moving so far away was to get away from all that.
I have a sticker that looks like the state license plate that reads “save an Elk, shoot a developer”
When we moved here 25 years ago, you could get on I70 and go hundred and see few cars, or cops.
Now, I70 is like a frickin parking lot! SL is 75 (so WE drive 80-85) but all the interlopers drive 60 in the left lane.
And forget about when it snows as most of them come from warmer climates. I70 shuts down constantly now, which means you can’t get ANYWHERE, usually because of some lost sailor who has no business driving up here!
Yes I am aware of the irony. Coming here we’ve contributed to the problem, be we’ve fought overdevelopment amap.
The vast majority of folks moving here now are not doing so for the reasons we did, which was in tune with the way it was.
We’ve been thinking it’s time to cash in and go somewhere cheap to die.
Somewhere nobody wants to live, to get some land cheap, with little or no taxes, but with a college/hospital somewhat near by...
Of course many of those places are full of angry rednecks, not freaks...
All we want is a quiet place to lay our heads and listen to the River sing sweet songs!

Got mine - a few thoughts

Got mine. Sounds great for an '83 (in terms of audio quality, from a cassette master). This is actually from the same tour as my first show (4/16/83 w/ Stills), so its nice to hear something from my introductory era. Some initial thoughts:
- OVERALL a great show - Wow! Phil is big in the mix, unlike many 80's soundboards. Dick is right - this show pops with energy from beginning to end.
- Shakedown is long and well-jammed, and has Brent very prominent in the mix and clearly not on the Hammond B3 - using a electronic 80's tone instead - kinda distracting, but hey, you have to experiment. He uses varying organ voicings for the next few songs.
- Minglewood Blues.... Jerry rips, and this version smokes. My brother and I use to joke that during Bobby's slide solos Jerry was cringing thinking "Oh god, my solo after this better be good!" Bewildering. "These Philly phillies start looking good..."
- Maybe You Know - They actually played this at my first show the previous week, 4/16/83. It was only played 6 times total.... I don't remember it at all, until I heard this version and looked at the setlist from my show.
- My Brother Esau is only a month old, and is without the quirky intro riff which is fine since it was often clumsy. This is GREAT version of one of my favorite Bobby songs. Very chill and understated, at about 3/4 regular volume and slower pace, without the overwrought bombast that can sometimes hamper other versions. Almost sounds like they're just casually rehearsing it and running through the changes in some parts, but it totally works.
- Let It Grow rips!! As do many version from this era. Always loved this 1st set jam.
- Help On the Way starts with us overhearing Bobby telling the drummers "After Women are smarter you guys go RIGHT into the drum solo!" Then you hear Jerry clarify the whole pre-drum setlist, Mickey confirms the setlist back to Jerry ("Got it!") and they're off! Cool banter. GREAT clear version of Help - Jerry's voice sounds great for '83, and the guitar work is generally crisp and confident, which is not always the case for this song in '83.
- Truckin' ending jam has great energy (Phil seems to trigger a breaker on the big Phil-bomb part, as his bass tone suddenly hiccups) but they disappointingly end it just as it gets interesting. After the crescendo, It almost immediately dissolves into brief "Nobody's Fault" and "Spoonful" teases before they bail out completely. Would have loved them to stretch it out a little longer. The mid-late 80's seem to have many truncated versions of otherwise heavily jammed songs (especially '87).
- Morning Dew - Like going to church. Apocalyptic Phil bombs, majestic guitar. Thanks Jerry.
- Throwing Stones> Not Fade Away - This is the early era of this pairing, before it was maligned as "Throw Away" for being overused.... But for many in that Philly audience, it was the first time they'd ever heard this perfect pairing with the audience chant at the end. You can hear and feel the magic in the air.

Happy Camper!

Love the artwork on this release! All the little Philly references (like the pretzels and the guy up front with the cheesesteak to name two,) are cool. I really like this artist - she might be my favorite of the series so far!

In terms of the show, I haven't had a proper listen, but from what I have heard, it sounds great! Only took 8-some years and 38 volumes to get a Shakedown Street.

Finally, I am pleased to see such positive energy surrounding this release. Part of me was expecting to log on and find a lot of less-than-enthusiastic comments. Perhaps the nay-sayers are playing it cool to allow those of us excited about it to have a moment in the sun.

Hope all is well! Continue to stay safe out there!

Peace

Colorado, you can keep it!

Colorado - The New Jersey of the West

Lots of assholes with Green Plates showing up in New Mexico, just sayin’

Colorado

Colorado sounds like where everyone escaping the coasts and bringing their bullshit with them should go. Montana? We're full up, we're a bunch of angry rednecks, and many of us aren't vaxing for a disease with a 99% survival rate. Colorado, that's where you want to go.

Relocating....

....I have relatives in Idaho. They said they're full too lol.
Philly out for delivery.

Crowded around here

You should get a load of all the newbies in Seattle!!! "Go home, tech bro"

Grump grump grump...

I am beyond certain the indigenous populations living and deceased are laughing themselves silly over modern complaints of "too many aholes moving here".

Awesome

When your lost in the rain, in Montana, and it’s Easter time too.
And your gravity fails you and negativity won’t pull ya through...

Well, hell then come on Deadnet, usually a happy place, and spew hate!

Welcome back! We missed ya.

Pilgrims , Romans, Countrymen

“Be of good heart”

I don't post here often but…

I don't post here often but lurk a lot. This conversation sucks. I guess asshole is a universal language.

Skulltrip, good to hear from you!

Keep on truckin', man.

Be kind. Rewind.

#5216 Has Landed

in Santa Barbara. I've been warming up for this with Woostah '83 from Thirty Trips.
The real estate market is too hot to handle here, as well.

Whining boy blues.

I can understand why people consider that America is too full. The population density is 88 people per square mile. That may seem like a lot to you, but here in the Netherlands we have a population density of 1183 people per square mile. Please don't get the idea that this density is artificially high due to the fact the there are mega cities here. The largest city has around 742000 inhabitants. Bearing this in mind, I don't see how one can justify any statement that suggests that the state you live in is full. Maybe it would be a good idea to move to Mongolia. Big sky country and endless empty grasslands where your nearest neighbours could be way over the horizon. What more could one wish for? Possibly a sense of perspective is lacking here.

Clarification

I apologize to all, I was just “whining” about the irresponsible overdevelopment by greedy developers that is ruing my state as well as others. Then shit git weird...
Mongolia sounds kinda nice!

Movement

Throughout history humans have been moving from one place to another

DP 39 Whew

Since I commonly gripe about some of the mediocre offerings, it's only right to extend a compliment when appropriate. DP 39 is really good. I was not anticipating a show from 1983 would have this much energy. Pleasantly surprised. Thanks.

OROBOROUS - Come Back! We Love You!!

My #39 is being delivered today. Surprised it hasn't sold out.

I completely identify with the irresponsible developer stuff.

Born and raised in Idaho.

Haven't Got Mine Yet

..it takes mail a bit longer to arrive here in East Central Mongolia.. but I am a recent fan to this show. Agree with the high energy and good recording (for the era) comments. Sometimes you need some high energy, jazzercise workout Grateful Dead. This fits that bill, works as prescribed.

Mosaic-Dennis - sounds good to me!

I only have one box set issued by Mosaic, and that is The Complete Dean Benedetti Recordings. A 7cd box set featuring just the solos played by Charlie Parker during a number of live dates in the 1940s. Each track starts with a blitz of a Parker solo, and ends abruptly when the solo ends. All lovingly recorded by Dean Benedetti using primitive recording techniques from wherever he could hook up in the club Parker was playing in

There is an essay on Dean in the So Many Roads box set, called The Children of Dean Benedetti, a self explanatory reference to taping Deadheads. The box set is a true work of devotion, with great essays and photos.

No. 1,034 ...

Is in da house...ok we shall see what we shall see

Perhaps today

If you dont have your 39 yet, give a listen to Captain Beefheart and the magic band's Strictly Personal. It'll blow your funky mind.

"Strawberry caterpillar!!!"

moving

did that 13 years ago, moved up from Florida to North Carolina mountains. Used to be quite nice, low noise, didn't hear a siren or cop for weeks at a time, then started to hear one weekly or so, then more, more till daily now. The natives are a bit well, country or mountain, but basically harmless, except for the rednecks, they have weapons and don't mind using them. Mountain William (hillbilly) all the way.
Everyone from Florida is following our lead and moving up here, and they don't know how to drive on these mountain roads. Way too much traffic now and no improvements to the roads, so, you get a lot of parking lots too, or very slow moving lanes. Used to be, you could fly around here, not any more.
The weather is good, not too hot in the summer and not too cold in the winter, but we still will get an occasional snow in the winter, 4 distinct seasons that you can pretty much set your watch to, like on the Autumn equinox, the weather will change that day, believe it or not.
Soon, Florida will be up here, the weather has all ready changed from what it was when we first moved here, it's unsettling to think about it that one day, it could be just as hot here in these mountains as it was in Florida, but it seems to be happening.
So, to sum it all up, where is the perfect place? No, it's not here in the mountains, thanks for looking, now go home. Ha, go to captcha and it says, pick out the mountains

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