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    Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

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    Doc sorry to hear the news

    Doc, I'm sorry to hear your news,I hope things will get better for you and your wife.

  • 1stshow70878
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    Best wishes

    For Doc & the Mrs.
    You're the best.

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    Music is moonlight in the gloomy night of life......

    Been in the hospital for a week with pneumonia, wife with metastatic cancer, life, it seems, has dealt us a harsh hand...............

    In regard to Miami. Yes, I supplied the photos, the story is from the deep Dead past, now merely a footnote on a footnote and not so important. I had a chance to make a very minor contribution to the community, so I took it and dealt with the fallout. Bad feelings yes, long since discharged, let's focus on the music.........

    It was, after all, the kind of magic that only the Dead could conjure. Very fine and very interersting, consumate quirky gooey good old Grateful Dead. Apart from Providence (my second show), my favorite 1974 outing...........

    Rock on,

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    Will put this on tomorrow OB. It looks like it is a Pearson Healy Miller. I was at the shows at the Mecca in WI and the old Met Center in Bloomington MN in April of that year. My senior year in HS. What a year! Oh shit that means 35th HS reunion this year.

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    DHB today!

    3/30/89
    3/31/89
    3/30/94: wow! Neat show! Sometimes…

    3/28/89 best of year so far…

    Friday: much of 6/23/74
    1.3 back there somewhere?

    And 49 sprinkled throughout!

    Feb 74 on deck…
    ONWARD!

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    Only made it through the bonus disc as I had anticipated. Life got in the way yesterday. The Playin' went some interesting places I didn't expect. Seems the TOOs and Playin' were the interchangeable space jams in the middle from 72-74. Superb smooth China > Rider. Is there a less than great 1974 show?

    IIRC Doc had issues getting his photos back. A trouper to give that gift to us all. Thanks Doc!

    Cheers

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    Holy shit Bob t! Good to hear from you. It has been a long time. Hope all is well.

    Obeah, yes, the Doc was involved with getting Dave the photos, I will let him give you the story. I have no idea how to search comments on this site either. I listened to this a lot when it first came out but haven't listened to it in a while.

    I was able to get a full uninterrupted listen in today. My god, so good. One of those shows, where nothing is rushed. Sound quality might be the best 74 material I have heard with the exception of the Grateful Dead MST.
    One of my favorite versions of To Lay Me Down. Jerry's guitar work is so moving. Great WRS. Love the Jam out of Seastones and then you get the rest of the second set! What is not to like. That Dark Star Jam, Spanish Jam into a phenomenal US Blues, that takes it's time. UJB, OMSN, Casey Jones to close it out. What a great show!

    Dig those PNE shows Daverock and the February shows OB.
    Would love some more.

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    so Deadvikes I just pulled out my copy of 6/23/74 at your suggestion. I have criminally underplayed this one. I call myself a '74 fan too so idk what my trip has been but anyway I grab the liner notes and unfold that thing and read the story of the photos and then I see the credit... to Forensicdoceleven ?!?! ?!

    edit: I know this has surely been discussed already. I seem to have poor luck using the search function on this site, but let me see if I can find old posts, i don't mean to hijack this thread. I just felt a strong need to say "wait a minute!"

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    DeadVikes good call. Have to say i probably listen to the bonus disc to this and the 6/16 &18 Roadtrips a lot... Hope you guys are all doing well!!

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    I was thinking February 74 after first amazing listen to 49!
    But 6/23 will work. Then, intermission, then 49 again, then perhaps Greensboro 89 where I left off, then later next week digest February 74 for a few days?

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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.
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Hey Bob t. Good to hear from you.

I always really like the Althea from 9/3/80, download series #7.

In fact that show and release sounds like a good pick for today. Hope you all can check it out again.
Download series #7, 9/3 and part of 4/1980.

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Also has a tight version of Deal where Brent goes over the top on backup vocals. I'll check it out for the Althea today. P.S. 7-28-82 nice set II version of Althea there, coincidentally the show has a Deal, too. (part of an L>S>D to end set I.)

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Right on WTJ!

I really dig these download series releases. Really great shows through out the series. I know it would never happen, but I would love to see them go back to all of these shows and release them on CDs. The music is there and they have all been mastered by Norman. I would buy them all. Okay, not going to happen but it would be great to see more music for sale on this site.

I remember 6-7 years ago there was so much music for sale on this site, the problem for me I didn't buy more of it at the time.

Anyway, be well out there. Looking forward to that next box in October...... And I guess no MUATM again this year☹️

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A potential super spreader event, in multiple cities.
So, let’s have a Shakedown Stream that doubles as a seaside chat announcement for an upcoming Box of videos.

Funny that DV wants the Download Series to be available on CD and on the DaP39 board a few days ago some people were complaining that new CD releases weren’t available for download.

I like 9-3,4%-80 I believe, but have not heard them in a while.
Can’t go there at the moment since I just saw today’s pick but already have 4-7-91 playing.
If that hasn’t been a pick yet, and if you are not familiar with it, give it a play.
So far no 91 in the DaP series, but that’s OK, keep the 91’s coming out on video. In fact, it’s time for View From The Vault 5, the first release of the newly resurrected series to start coming out on BluRay!

Yes Dave, I am waiting (im)patiently to send money to Rhino for video, with audio in 24/192.

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Realizing I am a little late to the party here.. My first instinct was also the 81 Essen W. Germany version.. but,

I was a little bored with things, and especially TV tonight so I picked up wherever it was I last left off on Long Strange Trip and Al Franken happened to have a lot to say about Althea. "You know.. I've listened to like a million Althea's" He called the version from 5/16/80 (multi-track, GoTo Nassau) the one with "the most hair raising solo" "oh my god, it's so unbelievably great"

So there you have it.. it was on Act V, Deadheads. Franken said, he's not a GD historian, he's just a fan. "I'm a Deadhead"

Thanks Al.

ConeKid.. thanks for summoning the spirits of Shakedown Stream. I wholeheartedly agree.

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I passed them along.... hope everyone is having a good summer..... How about some Cape Cod shows from 79, in honor of summer even though they played there in October...... Love that second set opener!! Bob t

Hey Bob t. Did someone say 1979. Yes, those two shows sound like a great idea to me.
So 10/27 and 10/28 79. Let's do it. I definitely need to give the 30 Trips show another proper listen.

I was out of pocket for most of second part of the day yesterday. What did I miss Oroborous?

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Been trying to at least keep the shows flowing, but haven’t had much quality listening time lately.
Did a full listen with 39 on Saturday, Sunday/Monday hit Dicks 35 as well as the rest of 8/6/71 to keep on the Doc train.
Snuck in that 89 show. Another good 89 off the list.
Hit second set of 9/3 from 80s DL. Solid set for sure, nice High Time...can relate, having a hard time living the good life...
79 sounds fine, just not I’ll have the time...no worries, next man up!
I’ll try and work it in with more 71 over the next few days.
Carry On!

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can't go wrong with an Al Franken rec!! thanks King Biscuit for being the reason behind that multitrack sweetness of Go To Nassau.

on a slightly different Althea note. several years ago someone over at IA pointed to a real cool video of Jerry playing Althea where he seamlessly switches from using a pick to finger picking and then back again. like a little magic trick watching it.

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not a POTD but want to rec Freak Flag Flying a real and very cool podcast by Steve Silberman with David Crosby. fantastic and fascinating. lots of great talk, music, history, and life. had no idea about david's career these last few years and it was a revelation. ate it up. There's a linq to Episodes 5 & 6 on the latest Grateful Deadcast (which BTW is on one of my favorite albums ever first Jerry solo Garcia).

here's hoping the monsoons return to our little pocket in the southwest. glorious there for a few weeks in the mountains. the mushroom kingdom was unlike anything i'd ever seen over by the Lizard's Head. Onward!!

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second night red rocks - whole lotta fun

it's got a cumberland
a friend of the devil, esau
bird song>music never stops
and a china cat > rider
a terrapin "it's here!"
moon over the great plain at the end of Quinn

that was some great goodness those nights

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No 13th Avenue in San Francisco, Funston Avenue instead. Sometime in the early 80s I was in The Postermat in North Beach owned by the famous Ben Friedman. I met the drummer from the 13th Floor Elevators there. Talk about one wacky Texas band. Gave Sir Douglas Quintet a run for the pesos.
Tomorrow I need to follow doctors orders and listen to August 14, 1971. Grateful Dead at Berkeley Community Theater. My first west coast Dead show.
Dang near green as Ireland here in southwest New Mexico. The clouds have been astonishing, psychedelic, magnificent, or pretty dang bueno. As Rodney Dangerfield says in one of his films; “Rolling Thunder!”

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I have seen that Althea video.. he sort of uses his stubby finger for pick management. Very cool.. and it kind of explains the feeling and textures he is able to add to his tone. It adds an incredible touch.

10/27/79 ✔️
10/28/79 ✔️
8/12/87 ✔️

Though the second set is awesome, and I like how they get a bit outside on Dancin’, this one has felt like one of those?
.....like I think Dave gets into the right neighborhoods and streets, but sometimes picks the wrong house?
Don’t get me wrong, great show, but...or is this just me?

First time with the next night. Going to need to hit some of that again.
Hell, fall 79 is yet another tour that needs the “treatment” but alas that ain’t happening soon.

One of my favorite scenes in nature: the red rock with bright green foliage, especially after it’s rained and the rocks wet
Yaaassss, tomorrow will get 8/14/71 into the mix. (8/15 on Sunday)
Staying on the old Doc Train, striders the conductor, woo-woo!
All aboard!

10/27/79 ✔️
10/28/79 ✔️
8/12/87 ✔️

Though the second set is awesome, and I like how they get a bit outside on Dancin’, this one has felt like one of those?
.....like I think Dave gets into the right neighborhoods and streets, but sometimes picks the wrong house?
Don’t get me wrong, great show, but...or is this just me?

First time with the next night. Going to need to hit some of that again.
Hell, fall 79 is yet another tour that needs the “treatment” but alas that ain’t happening soon.

One of my favorite scenes in nature: the red rock with bright green foliage, especially after it’s rained and the rocks wet
Yaaassss, tomorrow will get 8/14/71 into the mix. (8/15 on Sunday)
Staying on the old Doc Train, striders the conductor, woo-woo!
All aboard!

Yeah, it’s pretty amazing how often, and deftly he switch’s that pick around and finger picks perhaps more than folks realize. Believe Kesey, a magician himself, used to comment on JGs slight if hand technique?

For some reason my last post was deleted. Not sure why. Still working my way through the two 79 Cap Cod shows. These shows are really good, that fall 79 laid back vibe. 10/28/79 is maybe better than 10/27. That China- Rider is hot. Half Step Franklins. Thanks Bob t.
Okay, will check out that 8/12/87 show next from Red Rocks.
Stay well out there.

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i saw the post - was surprised when i returned and it was gone. i think you got swept up in a broad anti-spam dragnet - there was some weirdness between my last post and Unkle Sam. Can't believe they didn't grab Annie too. All the shows on that 87 mountain tour were sweet (I think Park City 8/20 is my favorite like i rambled on about last summer.) Somewhere yesterday someone posted a cassette cover of 8/12 and I'm like oh yeah the myth times 87 (ha! not quite the myth times of Berkley 8/14 and 8/15!! - they should mini-box those 2 nights. ) but yeah 87 was a good year! 8/!! first night was my favorite of that Red Rocks run - snagged 2nd row left center for the crew (Phil and Bob right out from us) and that was 1 of only 2 times I was ever that close. A CA taper in the party had mics over the ears and listening to his work you got the slow subtle back and forth of his head as they jammed Playing (it was an awesome audience pull - don't think its circulating.) Beautiful fun evening.

thanks (in advance) for the cape cod POTD 2-fer. cape cod - that's almost like alaska for goodness sakes. legend.

taking my first spin through H-S-F from Dave's 39 #4441. I like it!! Early on had the 4-17 show SBD and it was a fave - recording quality not quite on the same level here (without an A - B yet) but it has that "swing". also haven't gotten to Disc 3 filler yet but really happy up front that they included He's Gone > Little Star filler. I remember hearing Bob Star from one (more than one?) show and thinking that it was pretty damn cool. not a full fledged song but the kinda thing that would have seriously bent my mind live probably. somewhere someone (maybe on Steve Hoffman forum?) remarked that it reminded them of Banyon Tree in that spoken-word-song-sense. I saw and heard Banyan tree a couple of times and thought it was really really cool.

Strider - have been watching with envy all the rain down there. what was going on in the San Juans only lasted about 3 weeks but reallyreally impressive . Over in our part of Utah not so much but a couple of storms got us. Abajos and LaSals got a whole lot more. In recent years have been working down somewhere in the general southern 1/2 NM area. Miss it. yeah Oro!! - rain glistening on the redrock and happy wet high desert plants

Just got to the drums from 39 - what the hell are those little chimes that Mickey(?) is playing? - freaking awesome! Now marimbas?

The Jerry slight of hand with the pick definitely felt like a magic trick. not the only one up his sleeve for sure.

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And you know that notion just crossed my mind.

“Sometimes I get a great notion”
from “Goodnight Irene” by Lead Belly

“Sometimes A Great Notion” one of the great American novels by Ken Kesey

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Major turning point in my life. The west is the best.
August 14 & 15, 1971 was so different from any previous Dead shows I attended. Bay Area Mediterranean (psychedelic) light captured my soul .Here comes more rain. Green on green.

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that's some myth time for sure - wowza

and more rain this morning - damn that sounds fine.

just found out this morning that 8/14 is David Crosby's b-day! and just noticed that 8/14 Berkeley has a Bill Graham happy birthday David Crosby before the encore. happy b-day Croz!

and if so inclined folks check out that Freak Flag Flying podcast with Steve Silberman and David - really dug it

have a great weekend everybody. onward!!

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Will people still be listening to the music of the Grateful Dead?
Me thinks yes, if there is still a human race.

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This music is every bit as important and historical as Mozart, Bach and Beethoven. ..or at least we will agree on this in a mere 50 years.

I'm pretty sure Salieri was calling Mozart's symphonies cover band pop noise and his followers freaks and touch heads too.. Not sure history smiled on his thinking...

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Looking at 6/3/76 for today. Let me know if this one looks good to you all?

Had a great time with last weeks picks and also got in Dick's 33 in the car over the weekend. Haven't listened to this one in a while and yes, it is still outstanding. I don't know how anyone could listen to the second set of the first day and not be really into it, but, I guess it happens.

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8/14/71 ✔️
8/15/71 ✔️
Seems like their slightly starting to loosen up again.
The Other ones have Dark Star vibe and nice jams!
Nice Hard to Handle in there too, rare Lovelight, good sheet, just getting a little burnt on the repetitiveness.
Looking forward to the changes coming up!
Especially KGs first show as I’ve not heard that one yet.
Speaking of ones I should but have not heard, 6/3/76 it is!

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Glad I finally got to this one, interesting show.
Not sure I’ll be able to have tunes today, but if so perhaps I’ll hit tie next night?

Oh, dug parts of 3/21/90 last night. Proper!
And the Victim was dedicated to all the haters.

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This pick of the day continues. It has truly helped me to listen to Dead concerts I would not have gone to before. 76 was another great year.

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I know I am a day late, but I have a chance to listen to a full show, and I am going with this one. I don't recall having heard it before, and I am really liking what I see from the setlist!

I'm with Strider - super happy that this board continues to chug along! I find that it has pointed me to some excellent shows I would have otherwise missed, and it is a nice respite from some of the more cantankerous and discursive posts on the other boards.

Peace

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Oroborous, ha!

Yes, love this Thread. Not as active as it used to be but we are still moving along.

I think the first show back in 76 is pretty good. Sound quality is a solid B++.

Obviously I think they were trying to find their way back during this month. Love these June Scarlett's.

Good start to the rest of the month.

Who has a pick for us? Are you thinking
3/21/90? I am in on that!

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have it on now... found a charlie miller board that sounds good... i think these Paramount shows get passed over a lot because of previous existing copies. someone posted on archive that most of them sound like a swimming pool of molasses... bob t

Did 3/21/90 last night.
I’ve been hitting 6/4/76 today.
Not as good so far as 6/3, both the audio and the music, still fun to check out and another notch off the ole proverbial list...
Yeah there was a Betty for 6/3 that sounded good and though you can tell their a little rusty,
it’s a good show with cool first versions of several songs.
These shows seem different /unique than even the next/following ones?

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Just finished my listen, and I really enjoyed it! First show of 76, and so many new tunes! I agree that they are a little rusty, but I found a lot to love about this show, particularly the first Lazy Lightning>Supplication that totally smoked, the early 2nd set Wharf Rat, the post "drums" Must Have Been the Roses, and the Help>Slip>Frank that comes so late in the show. The Slipknot in particular grabbed my attention - really good stuff. Cap it all off with an encore of the first Wheel, and you've got a great kick-off to a great month (and an overall great year) of Grateful Dead music.

Thanks for the rec! This is my last week of summer before returning to work (school starts on Monday here in Bmore,) and I plan on hitting up as many full shows as I can while I relax one last time before the grind. Tomorrow I will plan on 3/21/90 - I already have it cued up! Rock on!

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I haven't had the chance to get to this yet.. but I have listened to it before.

Can you imagine the emotions in the crowd that night? "we're getting the band back together"

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I couldn't post on the site last night. Not sure what was going on, but everytime I tried it would log me out.

It is always interesting to listen to one of these show from Spring 1990 after you have been listening to shows from the archive. The sound quality is so good. Great show, always thought they did a great job on Hey Pocky Way. Thanks for bringing us back to Spring 1990 Oroborous.

Who has a pick for today? Jim?

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It is possible to have good sounding 85’s in the Vault.

Been doing 11-1-85 in the car this week and listened to post-Space this morning. I love the sound of She Belongs To Me on this release.

Hope there are more good sounding 85’s in the Vault, especially from summer.

I think that this show has already been a POTDWD, but if not, give it a play.

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I don't remember if we did this one or not. I am a bit biased, but like this release. The next night is no slouch either. If we wanted to continue the 85 vibe, try 11/2 (or both). Phil is high in the mix, decent setlist, good show.

If you've never heard it, it's worth a spin. Add in 10/31 and 11/1 and you have a nice, congealed threefor or as we call it here at dead net a Brewer Hat Trick.

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the fall run that year was killer, check out the Oct 26th show from the Sun Dome in Tampa, awesome Drums>space into a killer Comes a Time, with a Midnight hour encore. That was the year that they brought back the tunes Pig used to do.

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I hope we haven't lost GOGD to the dark side.. (the Phish.com pick of the day thread).

Right on USam, there is something about Fall '85 (all of '85 really), all the new songs and several high energy shows to pick from. 20th Anniversary, just ten short years left.

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Thanks for the pick on this one. Good show.

Do we have another announcement coming next week??

Pick up some Bell's Octoberfest if you can for the weekend. Enjoy!

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I mixes right into the fold of 11/1.

It was a zoo.. the shows were, I think, quite good.. but the last time the Dead would be allowed to play in the city of Richmond.

If that's ok with the bakers dozen that seems to follow this thread.

....yeah. What happened to him? 11.2.85 is a good show.

SET 1
Bertha >
Greatest Story Ever Told
Dupree's Diamond Blues
C.C. Rider >
Althea
My Brother Esau
Candyman
Let It Grow
SET 2
Iko Iko
Estimated Prophet >
Uncle John's Band >
China Doll >
Drums >
Space >
Morning Dew >
Throwing Stones >
Turn On Your Lovelight
ENCORE
It's All Over Now Baby Blue

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Back to back 85, let's do it.

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8/21/68 tomorrow?

I caught a little of it on Today in GD History on SiriusXM Radio.. sounded great, recorded on 8 track reels.

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Wanted to listen to summer 85 and 8-24-85 was on my music player, so I fired it up without realizing that it was Boreal. Once Bob mentioned Truckee I knew what show it was. Actually sounds better than one would anticipate based on the negative vibe that hangs around the show.
I wasn’t there but aren’t the heat and traffic issues the major reason that this show gets a bad rap?
I’ve mountain biked in that area in the hot summer and the sun is intense up there. And not a lot of shade on the ski slope. Never skied there before but behind Boreal is Sugar Bowl which has some really nice chutes and back country terrain.

11/1/85 ✔️ Forget about this one. Perhaps not the best played show of the year but fun and a great set list!
Yass uncle, most of that tours good. I only saw 2 in Chrotchfester but they were, and are near and dear!
And hey, among other things it’s got a sweet She Belongs!
When this first came out I was like “finally, some 85”, but the haters hated, and over the years I’ve wondered if DL picked a good neighborhood and street, but stopped at the wrong house? Ala Dave. But that’s just thinking out loud and splitting hairs...I like it worts and all!
11/2/85: unfortunately I haven’t gotten to this one, which is a shame cause I’ve not heard in forever. Second set was a go to tape BITD, great set, but I’m not sure I’ve ever heard the first? Need to circle back on it...
Yeah Jim that little 10/31, 11/1, and 11/2 is a nice little southern pie! Though the 29th is worth a listen too.

8/21/68 spinning as we speak. Good sheet mon! Needed a 68 fix! Perhaps VII to carry it on?
I’d like to propose 7/3/66 and the 50th bonus stuff from 7/29&30/66 sometime in the near future?
Perhaps after Conekids 8/22&23&87 rec?

Would really love it if we could do 9/4, 5, and 6/91 for the/(my) 30th anniversary?
I Remember GOGD recommended them last year and I’m not sure I’ve gotten to em yet, so would love to do so if anyone’s down? These were the humping with whales shows so I’d really like to check em out...

But first things first!
Jumped ahead on these since I don’t think I’d be able to get to em Monday or Tuesday, but wanted to keep up on the ole Doc train, with conductor Strider ; ) All aboard!
8/23/71 ✔️Felt this one was hot right outta the gate with a nice Big RR! Perhaps nothing out of the ordinary, but just seemed like a solid, good energy show? Another cool spacey TOO. Also decent helping’ of grease!
8/24/71✔️ I think I might if enjoyed the 23rd more overall? Perhaps situational...but changes is starting to creep into the mix with new tunes! Empty Pages I know I’ve heard, but perhaps not in a very long time, so felt like first time lol.
Interesting, made me think of a Brent style tune...and of course the first Brown Eyed Women, I think?
Fun how it’s so different, especially without the three chord, staccato verse start!
Some more good grease including a Hurts me Too that could easily get mistaken for E72! Tight!
Well, one more then off until October but back with almost yet another whole new band!
Really looking forward to 10/19 as I’ve never heard and there’s all those new songs.

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Great Pick!
Another left field chestnut and another notch on the ole bedpost of shows!
Love how they pack so much into a relatively small container.
Good sounding too!

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They played the Dark Star Suite yesterday on TIGDH but I only caught the beginning of the program.. if my ears and memory are correct, the Dark Star started at the beginning yet all of the copies on Archive.org suffer from a reel flip and are missing the beginning. Lemieux also said it was recorded on 8 track and went into a long dissertation about what was recorded on 8 track, then scrapped when 16 track came out, etc.

My thinking is.. it's not copies from the 8 track master that circulate and they have a more complete Multi-Track in the vault just sitting there waiting.. and begging to get a Full Norman and the Plangent Treatment.

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Ask and ye shall receive, 9-4-91 set I is in this week's installment of the Taper's Section... :-)

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I'm down for some '91.