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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

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June 28, 2020 - 9:31pm

#6671

DeadVikes

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Otis/Oroborous

Good to see you back in the loop. Hope all is well. New system is always exciting.
I am willing to give Dave's 31 another try. Haven't listened to it since last year.

Took out Good old Dave's 25, the BINGHAMTON NY 77 show. Some of these shows keep getting better with each listen.
Oroborous, you are a wild man. What a ride!

Be well folks. I have heard rumblings in other pages about big announcements coming. Don't know about that but we do know Dave's 35 will be announced in July. Maybe they will give Oroborous an 85 pick?
June 28, 2020 - 9:27pm

#6672

Vguy72

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6.28.85 Hershey Park....

....another one of my first tapes. Bird Song-> Comes A Time -> Deal. A rare Garcia trifecta to end the first. Music Never Stopped-> Tom Thumbs to open the second. How do you guys keep bringing up my first loves? And why does this band keep following me?
Here's kind of a story. I tripped balls listening to this tape in 1989. That's all I got.
June 28, 2020 - 7:19pm

#6673

wilfredtjones

Joined:
June 4, 2007

Hershey

You know it's on Dave's radar as he has played some of it on 30 Days in past years. Good show and one of my first tapes. Keep the stories coming! :-)
June 28, 2020 - 5:16pm

#6674

Oroborous

Joined:
June 19, 2007

6/28/85

So after basically staying up for 2 days at SPAC, we finally pack it up and hit the road the next day. I believe it was a rainy, gloomy day most of the day. But that didn’t stop our idiot patrol from basically racIng at high speed through the fine but conservative state of Pennsytuckey, where they were one of the last to let go of the 55 mph laws, and back then there usually wasn’t much tolerance. So 2 cars of totally raging nutknicks, with probably enough cargo to keep us detained for decades, thought it’d be a good idea to race at speeds up to 90!, Idiots!.....yes, one car had a radar detector, but in those days smart cops would wait for some nut traveling high speed and click it on when they had ya dead nuts.
Luckily, all was well and it was one more “miracle” as we earnestly pursued our quest for “too much of everything is just enough”, aaaa, never considered back then maybe Bob was being sarcastic? Lol
So we roll on into Chocolate town late and all beat up. I’m guessing we grabbed some kind of drive through, but not sure and as we were hardcore vegetarian then, perhaps we thought we’d grab something there? It’s all such a blur, I do recall the lot we were in had no or little Shakedown action going on. That still wasn’t in full flight anyway, and don’t recall much there, so maybe we drank our supper? I know I scored some Carlsberg Elephant beer, and believe I may have finished it, though that is a tall order even under good conditions so perhaps not. I’m sure I put in dent in it at least! So, that and the last of one z of veggies, though the tricky part was it was mostly just powder and scraps and so no normal produce to properly gage etc, which would turn out to be a tactical error...
So it’s late, we’re tired, but tweaked, perhaps no dinner, and of course it’s horrible out. Dark, rainy, and cold is usually not how you want to do your Dead. Eventually we get in perfect time, slip right in front of the SB and try to make the best of the situation. Well I had a shirt, a black baseball jacket, and the electric Buffalo Hyde, but even still it was damp and cold at first. Eventually, when things started to take hold and we started boogieing, we began to warm up a bit.
Meanwhile, the set list is awesome, but the conditions, which necessitated all the stage and PA speakers being covered in plastic (there was no stage lid) thereby severely effecting the audio. It’s was such a weird show that way, loved the little “stadium” and the nice audiophile stereo set up, with surrounds, great set list, mostly good playing, yes JGs vocals are a little ruff in the first set, but you have to cut some slack as it was terrible, I mean depending on the wind/rain they were getting rained on playing electrical instruments! Weird indeed, but like so many times in adverse conditions our heroes seemed to rise to the challenge. Thus the playing was perhaps more relaxed, steady and together and not forced like the previous night. Really, besides JGs vocal issues in the first, its a top notch show!
The second set really starts to take it higher with stellar versions of Music Never Stopped, Terrapin, Miracle and one of the best Dews I’ve ever seen! I think I saw about 14 or 15 Dews and when I think about Dews I’ve seen, this one is the one I always think of first! Rocking Stones/NFA with a spirited Day Job. I liked Day Job, but by now it was getting a tad old, and was a disappointment for this show considering how high it was at that point. A She Belongs or Baby Blue would of been a perfect Cherry on top, but perhaps that’s being greedy?
Now since the weather was such a factor, we must discuss that and how it influenced this show. The second set starts out with their “signing in the rain” as Bob says, and it’s a good’n! Next they slowly slid into an unusual sounding Tom Thumbs which I had never heard yet, and wasn’t even sure at first what it was, but hey, it was Phil so that’s all I needed to know! Good but perhaps truncated Estimated, followed by an awesome Terrapin. So as the set started to progress, so did the weather until (I think?) around Estimated it really started to clear up and they started pulling the plastic tarps down. It was almost like you could immediately hear it get better after each one was removed. Eventually by about Terrapin, they tarps we’re gone, the moon and stars were out, and Healy started increasing the volume and tweaking the mix. I remember we were goading him to turn it up, and man eventually he sure did!
As the night wore on it began to warm up a bit too. But as you’ve heard this scenario, or been there yourself, many times I didn’t feel quite high enough so what the hell, one more time with the powder veggie crumbles just before drums......hee-hee....you know, “I’m not feeling it?” and then...Dooah!
So the problem with those baseball jackets is they don’t really breath and the electric Buffalo Hyde was thick plastic. We didn’t have all the nice technical outer gear we have now, or at least WE didn’t. I could barely afford the free plastic one from the old mans work.
Well a perfect storm mounted; little or no food, Elephants, veggies etc, no sleep, excess everything and underlying exhaustion, with me starting to overheat due to the above and dancing with that plastic shell on. Things were going unbelievable well, and partly influenced by the very recent passing of my Grandfather, during Dew, things peaked musically, the sound, the night, the stars, emotionally etc etc until I had one of the most powerful musical/emotional/psychedelic peak experiences of my life. Perhaps my all time GD moment, it was that powerful. But what goes up must come down and just like that the radiator blew and that last handful of shroom dust fully kicked in and somewhere in Throwing Stones, right during ashes, ashes all fall down, well.....I say i didn’t really fall down, it was more like an immediate realization that if I don’t sit down rapidly, I’m going down! LOL, so one way or another, depending on who you believe, I end up down in the soft, cool mud until near the end of the song, but I swear just as I tried to get up I knew it wasn’t going to happen, so right on que again I go back down. My friends to this day always bring up my perfectly coreographed “Dance moves” above all else that happened on this tour..35 years later and it’s still “ashes, ashes, Pedro falls down” !
That would of all been well and good except things were very strange and weren’t wearing off, and I was barely functioning. I never would of found the car etc If not for my homies. Honestly all I remember is them pulling into a Wendy’s or something, but I just sat in the car with my face literally stuck to the window and crackled! Zzzzttttt. I really thought I had finally fried some essential circuits and thought this time I really did it. At some point I snapped out enough to find some kids in another car staring at me with a look of concern if not fear. Luckily, the boys finished up and came out and got us outta there. Somewhere near the state line we finally grabbed a motel as we all had had more than enough rain and adversity. Plus the next day was off and the drive short. I remember they propped me up in bed and I just sat and crackled and worried. Eventually I slept and though I felt better the next day, I didn’t feel normal and don’t recall much except when we got to Merriweather and found a good spot just over the creek, right next to the path, in some trees, on the way to the big parking lots to the right of the venue. But now it was nice and I was feeling more normal so not so freaked out. I also remember going to a nearby sorta plaza with an upscale liquor store where I scored my first sixer of EKU 28 ever which was awesome!
So now we’ve moved beyond the insanity of TOGA, the adversity and majesty of Hershey, and ready for perhaps the best overall show of the tour on 6/30/85....

EDIT: Otis, congrats on the stereo. All that matters is if your happy with it. After all the specs and hyperbole etc, no matter how big, small, expensive etc, in the end, that’s all that counts!
June 28, 2020 - 4:14pm

#6675

Thats_Otis

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@ Bob T and Pick for Monday

Nice rec for the TDIGDH 6/28/76 show! I'd never heard that one before, and it is pretty sweet. The "Happiness is Drumming" is certainly a highlight!

I have been out of the loop for a bit - trying to deal with some personal stuff on my end, and I just kind of lost track of things around these parts. I hope to be able to participate more going forward.

To that end, how about a pick for tomorrow, Monday 6/29? I am thinking Dave's 31 - 12/3/79 Uptown. I feel like this pick got a short shrift on the DaP page, but I remember being very happy with it, though I haven't given it a proper listen since it first came out. What do you all think?

One positive thing that I have accomplished since I've been away has been the set up of my first component stereo system. I don't know if it compares to all of your "big boy" systems, but it certainly feels BIG in my little row home! Looking forward to playing it LOUD tomorrow when the wife goes to work.

Peace
June 28, 2020 - 11:41am

#6676

Oroborous

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Voodoo senile, slight return. 6/27/85, and why 85 Dead is like

Bode Miller...

First, GOGD, I did not mean to single you out, over generalizations, which become stereotypes, which become truth etc, really bum me out. So it was more of a trigger to that, not you personally. I know you were just repeating this line.
Actually, as I’ve dug in deeper, there are probably a significant number of shows where he often doesn’t sound so good, but to over generalize that “his voice was shot”, as in never more, to me, imho, that completely devalues and discounts all the amazing, great sounding stuff he was still able to do. 87,88,89,90,91anyone? Micro view versus macro perhaps?

SECOND: I must humbly recant my tale of dancin in the rain. As we were diligently experiencing TOGA last night. Too things became apparent. First, perhaps JG was a tad “caffeinated” at the start of both sets. Listening close on a real system, (not the big boy, but the living room system which ain’t no slouch!), he seems a tad to fast and/or their not fully entrained. One could argue not fully so until Women Are?...so probably something to do with him totally skipping the Key Rain Storm, and Jailhouse versus, of Bertha, lol.
Thus, while I wasn’t deceitful, I was not accurate. Sure enough, when Holmes and Watson ripped a spleef and fired up Bertha from SPAC 6/24/84, and bingo, ding, ding, ding, ding! Right venue, wrong year! 😂 Ooops, my apologies to the dear reader...but hey, it’s a fun interesting new tid bit, and it did rain, I think, lol.
While doing this research I was listening just on the iPad and interestingly he doesn’t sound as bad? Also, I’ve been going with the HS matrixes, especially shows where I want to hear those crowd big moments. Generally they’ve been pretty good, but researching, I used a CM transfer and man, definitely a big difference. Perhaps number one being the speed/time of the Miller seemed better and more natural?
Subjective I know, just that it’s interesting how every variable can effect perceptions.
6/27/85: so this beast is still as much of a rocket sled ride as I’ve thought, but it’s perhaps a tad more unpolished then I would of said in the past. But that’s being picky, and you know I prefer danger dead to safe, so as at this moment, Hell in a bucket is scorching, I stick by this show for that, the cool set list, and the fact that eventually, say around Women Are on out, that part of the show stands with its lofty summer 85 neighbors. Probably have to give 6/24& perhaps 6/25? a slight advantage overall, but man I haven’t been to many shows that had the vibe, fun, and overall madness of this puppy.

So why is 85 Dead like Bode Miller? He often was criticized for his erratic style, or lack thereof, his nonconformity, often disregard for the rules, including parting then basically going 80 MPH down an insane pitch, that was usually hosed down to make it more icy, and thus faster! So just like this era of Dead, sometimes he’d DQ, sometimes he’d slack off, sometimes it was ugly, but when he brought it, that mofo brought it!! and when he was able to be one with the force, it was fucking breathtaking! Scary, but breathtaking. No matter what, if he was racing there was an energy, an excitement, that larger than life vibe......that, to me, is 85 Dead.
FINALLY: Ladies and Germs, May I present the Electric Buffalo Hyde! as christened by my degenerate cohort due to my resemblance of the great beast of the prairies back in the day, and this baby used to be so bright people would ask if there were batteries. But Alas, like youth itself it’s faded dramatically, and is old and bartered. It definitely gave it’s all to R&R. So many Dead shows, festivals, camping, parties, you name it! Also, it will be a part of an unfortunate situation at the next night, where I lost my shit in Hershey! So until then....
June 28, 2020 - 11:14am

#6677

bob t

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only time played anniversary show 6/28/76 Chicago Auditorium

If you are too busy to listen to whole show, listen to Happiness is Drumming from set II, if you have never heard or listened to listen you will be pleasantly surprised!!! There is a Charlie Miller soundboard on Internet Archive!!!! bob t
June 27, 2020 - 4:07pm

#6678

The Good Ole G…

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Good Times Great Oldies

Sounds like the ole SPAC '85 show will get some play today.

Always a fun revisit. Vguy & Keithfan that was you guys?! That's funny.

I guess I always thought this was an indoor show because of the balcony stuff and didn't know about the rain storm.

Tell us more.

And just for the record if I happen to say Jerry's voice is shot, what I mean to say is I love Jerry's voice, even though it's a little shot here. ;)

I agree, it always sounds great to me.

Enjoy party people!
June 27, 2020 - 11:21am

#6679

Oroborous

Joined:
June 19, 2007

Not a drop

We were out on the lawn so actually there were many drops, I mean it was already raining hard, and right when he sang that line, biblical!, but it just added to the madness and was one of my favorite concert/rain moments ever! I believe that’s right when folks crashed security on those balcony ramp ways and turned it into a free for all? Yeah, that was the shit, such energy all around, but that rain just took it to another level. Luckily I had my electric buffalo Hyde on! .....it was a psychedelic neon yellow long rain coat with
BS CORP
WORK SAFELY (from pops work) printed on back, and a Dancin skeleton sticker underneath that I added. Still have it! I should take a pic and post...fond it moving last year.
June 27, 2020 - 10:48am

#6680

Oroborous

Joined:
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Summer 85, and why I’m not prepared for class

Deadheadbrewer: yeah, I’m with you, I can’t keep up with these rascals! Pant-pant 😉
Haven’t done Riverbend, Nassau or Dane. Prolly give Nassau a spin this WE. Dane I’ve tried to stay away from cause ya gotta believe their going to give us that one someday! Bastards better! and I’d prefer it on virginal ears!
hey, by the way, how you guys coming on that tunnel under the vault?
So I listen to Riverbend 6/24/85 sort regularly so no biggie there except in the sense of comparing shows. Except It’s cool to go in order to see the subtle changes and how things progress. Like 6/25/85, definitely have felt a ascending arc since the first night in Alpine. Funny thing is I don’t think I’ve heard the second set of this one before? Had a tape of the first all along, but I think it was a tad too crisp so didn’t get as much love as the shows around it. Plus I think maybe I harbored some subliminal resentment for the show because of our decision to skip it to go to Toga early like we did in 84, which was awesome. Obviously if it made us skip a show that close to home, but Doooaahhh. So not sure how it’s the shows fault. LOL, but I think somehow I’ve had some weird thing about this show that has kept me away? Sorry, ramblings of a deranged lunatic!
Anywho, finally gave this bad boy a spin yesterday, though had to do it in 2 sessions as life just keeps buttin’ in like a 3 year old when mom and dad are trying to get down! Man what a show. The only really noticeable hiccup I recall was JG at the start of Jimmy, and Bob missed a vocal, really a great set, better than I remember, though I always liked it, just the tape was lesser then the others...
Second set was hot too, though perhaps they lost just a little near the end? Or maybe that was me as it was late, and by that time on a Friday this ole cowboy is usually not feeling much pain! I recall a couple little blemishes, but so what, you name any show, anyone, and I can find stuff wrong. And sorry, but I’m kinda over hearing about how terrible JGs voice is. Yes, sometimes it’s ruff, but sometimes I think the gravelly age worn voice ADDs to the affect of the songs, which is perhaps what he did best. And frankly, I’ll take the gravel voice singing in tune over a lot of that 1970 stuff we’re between the guitars and the vocals something is ALWAYS out of tune. That’s torturous for a musician.
Now I’m not trying to diss anyone’s favorite Dead etc, just stating an opinion that people perhaps overdo it with the voice comments. My favorite is when people say “I can’t listen to anything after 77”....ok, we’ll that’s cool as it’s your choice and all, but I’d say really you just have made up your mind you don’t want to like anything after that, and you probably haven’t heard enough and with the right kind of ears. Seriously, I challenge anyone to pick a “perfect” “best of “ show and if I have time I will find the cracks!
But that’s missing the point which is ITS ALL GOOD! and every era has something positive that the others don’t have. It’s all ways been yin yang folks, there is no such thing as a perfect show, except in our minds eye, which is quite A ok.
Ok, rant over, I’m obviously biased about my beloved 85!
Which brings us back to TOOOOOOOGGGGAAAAA!! Yo Butch, back in your seat, there’s 50 thousand people waiting for you to get back in your seat! Madness, the whole scene there was just surreal fucking madness, but in a good way.
I’m actually going to try and call my old house/band mates at the time as we all went. 2 I think went to blossom, and Pittsburgh. That one too, like WTF basically could of stopped by on the ride home from Merriweather, idiots! Lol, actually, I’m not sure I could have done another show. I may have caused permanent damage at Hershey, and thank god for that day off that I can’t recall much about, and I did take it a tad easier after, but not much. We ate so many veggies on that run that nobody would believe it. But I know what I came with and what was left after so.....looking back, it’s all kinda scary, we’re lucky we never had any real casualties of any sort. Few close calls, but nothing major, phewwww.
So going to call the lads, and fire up Toga tonight as We have to do a Zoom wedding this afternoon. We were supposed to be out at the Promised land for said wedding and a actual vacation, first since Seattle in ?? 2012!
Think Homer Simpson “oohhhh, Ssstttooooopid Covid”
Speaking of living via the net, was that not a fine show on Shakedown last night! Didn’t have the fire like the night before, but a fine well played outing, thanks so much to Dave and Co. for giving us this nice diversion. It’s getting to b3 a regular weekly thing, and gasp, the Mrs has actually been joining me and digging it! .....as long as I give her a good foot massage (usually during drums). She really digs the trippy graphics and colors which is even funnier as she’s never partaken except booze back in da day, it’s like giving a kid castor oil just getting her to have a beer, lol. So yeah, this Friday thing has been like the “ONE” in our music! Right on! and please keep em coming!
Ok, gotta try and call the guys and reminisce before the wedding. Then.....drum rolls please..........TOOooooGa!

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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

Althea

Hey Bob t. Good to hear from you.

I always really like the Althea from 9/3/80, download series #7.

In fact that show and release sounds like a good pick for today. Hope you all can check it out again.
Download series #7, 9/3 and part of 4/1980.

download series #7

Also has a tight version of Deal where Brent goes over the top on backup vocals. I'll check it out for the Althea today. P.S. 7-28-82 nice set II version of Althea there, coincidentally the show has a Deal, too. (part of an L>S>D to end set I.)

Download Series

Right on WTJ!

I really dig these download series releases. Really great shows through out the series. I know it would never happen, but I would love to see them go back to all of these shows and release them on CDs. The music is there and they have all been mastered by Norman. I would buy them all. Okay, not going to happen but it would be great to see more music for sale on this site.

I remember 6-7 years ago there was so much music for sale on this site, the problem for me I didn't buy more of it at the time.

Anyway, be well out there. Looking forward to that next box in October...... And I guess no MUATM again this year☹️

MUATM

A potential super spreader event, in multiple cities.
So, let’s have a Shakedown Stream that doubles as a seaside chat announcement for an upcoming Box of videos.

Funny that DV wants the Download Series to be available on CD and on the DaP39 board a few days ago some people were complaining that new CD releases weren’t available for download.

I like 9-3,4%-80 I believe, but have not heard them in a while.
Can’t go there at the moment since I just saw today’s pick but already have 4-7-91 playing.
If that hasn’t been a pick yet, and if you are not familiar with it, give it a play.
So far no 91 in the DaP series, but that’s OK, keep the 91’s coming out on video. In fact, it’s time for View From The Vault 5, the first release of the newly resurrected series to start coming out on BluRay!

Yes Dave, I am waiting (im)patiently to send money to Rhino for video, with audio in 24/192.

Re: Althea

Realizing I am a little late to the party here.. My first instinct was also the 81 Essen W. Germany version.. but,

I was a little bored with things, and especially TV tonight so I picked up wherever it was I last left off on Long Strange Trip and Al Franken happened to have a lot to say about Althea. "You know.. I've listened to like a million Althea's" He called the version from 5/16/80 (multi-track, GoTo Nassau) the one with "the most hair raising solo" "oh my god, it's so unbelievably great"

So there you have it.. it was on Act V, Deadheads. Franken said, he's not a GD historian, he's just a fan. "I'm a Deadhead"

Thanks Al.

ConeKid.. thanks for summoning the spirits of Shakedown Stream. I wholeheartedly agree.

Thanks again for all the Althea recommendations!!!

I passed them along.... hope everyone is having a good summer..... How about some Cape Cod shows from 79, in honor of summer even though they played there in October...... Love that second set opener!! Bob t

Today's Picks

Hey Bob t. Did someone say 1979. Yes, those two shows sound like a great idea to me.
So 10/27 and 10/28 79. Let's do it. I definitely need to give the 30 Trips show another proper listen.

I was out of pocket for most of second part of the day yesterday. What did I miss Oroborous?

Tomorrow Never Knows

Been trying to at least keep the shows flowing, but haven’t had much quality listening time lately.
Did a full listen with 39 on Saturday, Sunday/Monday hit Dicks 35 as well as the rest of 8/6/71 to keep on the Doc train.
Snuck in that 89 show. Another good 89 off the list.
Hit second set of 9/3 from 80s DL. Solid set for sure, nice High Time...can relate, having a hard time living the good life...
79 sounds fine, just not I’ll have the time...no worries, next man up!
I’ll try and work it in with more 71 over the next few days.
Carry On!

Althea

can't go wrong with an Al Franken rec!! thanks King Biscuit for being the reason behind that multitrack sweetness of Go To Nassau.

on a slightly different Althea note. several years ago someone over at IA pointed to a real cool video of Jerry playing Althea where he seamlessly switches from using a pick to finger picking and then back again. like a little magic trick watching it.

Freak Flag Flying

not a POTD but want to rec Freak Flag Flying a real and very cool podcast by Steve Silberman with David Crosby. fantastic and fascinating. lots of great talk, music, history, and life. had no idea about david's career these last few years and it was a revelation. ate it up. There's a linq to Episodes 5 & 6 on the latest Grateful Deadcast (which BTW is on one of my favorite albums ever first Jerry solo Garcia).

here's hoping the monsoons return to our little pocket in the southwest. glorious there for a few weeks in the mountains. the mushroom kingdom was unlike anything i'd ever seen over by the Lizard's Head. Onward!!

oh - it's Annie of 8/12/87

second night red rocks - whole lotta fun

it's got a cumberland
a friend of the devil, esau
bird song>music never stops
and a china cat > rider
a terrapin "it's here!"
moon over the great plain at the end of Quinn

that was some great goodness those nights

Friday the 13th

watch your parking meters

Friday the thirteenth (floor elevators)

No 13th Avenue in San Francisco, Funston Avenue instead. Sometime in the early 80s I was in The Postermat in North Beach owned by the famous Ben Friedman. I met the drummer from the 13th Floor Elevators there. Talk about one wacky Texas band. Gave Sir Douglas Quintet a run for the pesos.
Tomorrow I need to follow doctors orders and listen to August 14, 1971. Grateful Dead at Berkeley Community Theater. My first west coast Dead show.
Dang near green as Ireland here in southwest New Mexico. The clouds have been astonishing, psychedelic, magnificent, or pretty dang bueno. As Rodney Dangerfield says in one of his films; “Rolling Thunder!”

Re: Finger Picking Jerry

I have seen that Althea video.. he sort of uses his stubby finger for pick management. Very cool.. and it kind of explains the feeling and textures he is able to add to his tone. It adds an incredible touch.

Mmmmhhhhhmmm

10/27/79 ✔️
10/28/79 ✔️
8/12/87 ✔️

Though the second set is awesome, and I like how they get a bit outside on Dancin’, this one has felt like one of those?
.....like I think Dave gets into the right neighborhoods and streets, but sometimes picks the wrong house?
Don’t get me wrong, great show, but...or is this just me?

First time with the next night. Going to need to hit some of that again.
Hell, fall 79 is yet another tour that needs the “treatment” but alas that ain’t happening soon.

One of my favorite scenes in nature: the red rock with bright green foliage, especially after it’s rained and the rocks wet
Yaaassss, tomorrow will get 8/14/71 into the mix. (8/15 on Sunday)
Staying on the old Doc Train, striders the conductor, woo-woo!
All aboard!

Mmmmhhhhhmmm

10/27/79 ✔️
10/28/79 ✔️
8/12/87 ✔️

First time with the next night. Going to need to hit some of that again.
Hell, fall 79 is yet another tour that needs the “treatment” but alas that ain’t happening soon.

Yeah, it’s pretty amazing how often, and deftly he switch’s that pick around and finger picks perhaps more than folks realize. Believe Kesey, a magician himself, used to comment on JGs slight if hand technique?

Bluecrow 87

For some reason my last post was deleted. Not sure why. Still working my way through the two 79 Cap Cod shows. These shows are really good, that fall 79 laid back vibe. 10/28/79 is maybe better than 10/27. That China- Rider is hot. Half Step Franklins. Thanks Bob t.
Okay, will check out that 8/12/87 show next from Red Rocks.
Stay well out there.

DV

i saw the post - was surprised when i returned and it was gone. i think you got swept up in a broad anti-spam dragnet - there was some weirdness between my last post and Unkle Sam. Can't believe they didn't grab Annie too. All the shows on that 87 mountain tour were sweet (I think Park City 8/20 is my favorite like i rambled on about last summer.) Somewhere yesterday someone posted a cassette cover of 8/12 and I'm like oh yeah the myth times 87 (ha! not quite the myth times of Berkley 8/14 and 8/15!! - they should mini-box those 2 nights. ) but yeah 87 was a good year! 8/!! first night was my favorite of that Red Rocks run - snagged 2nd row left center for the crew (Phil and Bob right out from us) and that was 1 of only 2 times I was ever that close. A CA taper in the party had mics over the ears and listening to his work you got the slow subtle back and forth of his head as they jammed Playing (it was an awesome audience pull - don't think its circulating.) Beautiful fun evening.

thanks (in advance) for the cape cod POTD 2-fer. cape cod - that's almost like alaska for goodness sakes. legend.

taking my first spin through H-S-F from Dave's 39 #4441. I like it!! Early on had the 4-17 show SBD and it was a fave - recording quality not quite on the same level here (without an A - B yet) but it has that "swing". also haven't gotten to Disc 3 filler yet but really happy up front that they included He's Gone > Little Star filler. I remember hearing Bob Star from one (more than one?) show and thinking that it was pretty damn cool. not a full fledged song but the kinda thing that would have seriously bent my mind live probably. somewhere someone (maybe on Steve Hoffman forum?) remarked that it reminded them of Banyon Tree in that spoken-word-song-sense. I saw and heard Banyan tree a couple of times and thought it was really really cool.

Strider - have been watching with envy all the rain down there. what was going on in the San Juans only lasted about 3 weeks but reallyreally impressive . Over in our part of Utah not so much but a couple of storms got us. Abajos and LaSals got a whole lot more. In recent years have been working down somewhere in the general southern 1/2 NM area. Miss it. yeah Oro!! - rain glistening on the redrock and happy wet high desert plants

Just got to the drums from 39 - what the hell are those little chimes that Mickey(?) is playing? - freaking awesome! Now marimbas?

The Jerry slight of hand with the pick definitely felt like a magic trick. not the only one up his sleeve for sure.

Trouble ahead / trouble behind

And you know that notion just crossed my mind.

“Sometimes I get a great notion”
from “Goodnight Irene” by Lead Belly

“Sometimes A Great Notion” one of the great American novels by Ken Kesey

50 years ago

Major turning point in my life. The west is the best.
August 14 & 15, 1971 was so different from any previous Dead shows I attended. Bay Area Mediterranean (psychedelic) light captured my soul .Here comes more rain. Green on green.

50 years ago Berkeley

that's some myth time for sure - wowza

and more rain this morning - damn that sounds fine.

just found out this morning that 8/14 is David Crosby's b-day! and just noticed that 8/14 Berkeley has a Bill Graham happy birthday David Crosby before the encore. happy b-day Croz!

and if so inclined folks check out that Freak Flag Flying podcast with Steve Silberman and David - really dug it

have a great weekend everybody. onward!!

50 years from now

Will people still be listening to the music of the Grateful Dead?
Me thinks yes, if there is still a human race.

Couldn't agree more

This music is every bit as important and historical as Mozart, Bach and Beethoven. ..or at least we will agree on this in a mere 50 years.

I'm pretty sure Salieri was calling Mozart's symphonies cover band pop noise and his followers freaks and touch heads too.. Not sure history smiled on his thinking...

Pick of the Day

Looking at 6/3/76 for today. Let me know if this one looks good to you all?

Had a great time with last weeks picks and also got in Dick's 33 in the car over the weekend. Haven't listened to this one in a while and yes, it is still outstanding. I don't know how anyone could listen to the second set of the first day and not be really into it, but, I guess it happens.

More Goodness

8/14/71 ✔️
8/15/71 ✔️
Seems like their slightly starting to loosen up again.
The Other ones have Dark Star vibe and nice jams!
Nice Hard to Handle in there too, rare Lovelight, good sheet, just getting a little burnt on the repetitiveness.
Looking forward to the changes coming up!
Especially KGs first show as I’ve not heard that one yet.
Speaking of ones I should but have not heard, 6/3/76 it is!

6/3/76

Glad I finally got to this one, interesting show.
Not sure I’ll be able to have tunes today, but if so perhaps I’ll hit tie next night?

Oh, dug parts of 3/21/90 last night. Proper!
And the Victim was dedicated to all the haters.

Good to see

This pick of the day continues. It has truly helped me to listen to Dead concerts I would not have gone to before. 76 was another great year.

6/3/76

I know I am a day late, but I have a chance to listen to a full show, and I am going with this one. I don't recall having heard it before, and I am really liking what I see from the setlist!

I'm with Strider - super happy that this board continues to chug along! I find that it has pointed me to some excellent shows I would have otherwise missed, and it is a nice respite from some of the more cantankerous and discursive posts on the other boards.

Peace

6/3/76

Oroborous, ha!

Yes, love this Thread. Not as active as it used to be but we are still moving along.

I think the first show back in 76 is pretty good. Sound quality is a solid B++.

Obviously I think they were trying to find their way back during this month. Love these June Scarlett's.

Good start to the rest of the month.

Who has a pick for us? Are you thinking
3/21/90? I am in on that!

Deadvikes good call on 6/3/76

have it on now... found a charlie miller board that sounds good... i think these Paramount shows get passed over a lot because of previous existing copies. someone posted on archive that most of them sound like a swimming pool of molasses... bob t

Amen Otis

Did 3/21/90 last night.
I’ve been hitting 6/4/76 today.
Not as good so far as 6/3, both the audio and the music, still fun to check out and another notch off the ole proverbial list...
Yeah there was a Betty for 6/3 that sounded good and though you can tell their a little rusty,
it’s a good show with cool first versions of several songs.
These shows seem different /unique than even the next/following ones?

6/3/76 Recap

Just finished my listen, and I really enjoyed it! First show of 76, and so many new tunes! I agree that they are a little rusty, but I found a lot to love about this show, particularly the first Lazy Lightning>Supplication that totally smoked, the early 2nd set Wharf Rat, the post "drums" Must Have Been the Roses, and the Help>Slip>Frank that comes so late in the show. The Slipknot in particular grabbed my attention - really good stuff. Cap it all off with an encore of the first Wheel, and you've got a great kick-off to a great month (and an overall great year) of Grateful Dead music.

Thanks for the rec! This is my last week of summer before returning to work (school starts on Monday here in Bmore,) and I plan on hitting up as many full shows as I can while I relax one last time before the grind. Tomorrow I will plan on 3/21/90 - I already have it cued up! Rock on!

Peace

6/3

I haven't had the chance to get to this yet.. but I have listened to it before.

Can you imagine the emotions in the crowd that night? "we're getting the band back together"

3/21/90

I couldn't post on the site last night. Not sure what was going on, but everytime I tried it would log me out.

It is always interesting to listen to one of these show from Spring 1990 after you have been listening to shows from the archive. The sound quality is so good. Great show, always thought they did a great job on Hey Pocky Way. Thanks for bringing us back to Spring 1990 Oroborous.

Who has a pick for today? Jim?

Just goes to show

It is possible to have good sounding 85’s in the Vault.

Been doing 11-1-85 in the car this week and listened to post-Space this morning. I love the sound of She Belongs To Me on this release.

Hope there are more good sounding 85’s in the Vault, especially from summer.

I think that this show has already been a POTDWD, but if not, give it a play.

11/1/85

I don't remember if we did this one or not. I am a bit biased, but like this release. The next night is no slouch either. If we wanted to continue the 85 vibe, try 11/2 (or both). Phil is high in the mix, decent setlist, good show.

If you've never heard it, it's worth a spin. Add in 10/31 and 11/1 and you have a nice, congealed threefor or as we call it here at dead net a Brewer Hat Trick.

85

the fall run that year was killer, check out the Oct 26th show from the Sun Dome in Tampa, awesome Drums>space into a killer Comes a Time, with a Midnight hour encore. That was the year that they brought back the tunes Pig used to do.

Re: GOGD

I hope we haven't lost GOGD to the dark side.. (the Phish.com pick of the day thread).

Right on USam, there is something about Fall '85 (all of '85 really), all the new songs and several high energy shows to pick from. 20th Anniversary, just ten short years left.

11/1/85

Thanks for the pick on this one. Good show.

Do we have another announcement coming next week??

Pick up some Bell's Octoberfest if you can for the weekend. Enjoy!

11/2/85 for tomorrow?

I mixes right into the fold of 11/1.

It was a zoo.. the shows were, I think, quite good.. but the last time the Dead would be allowed to play in the city of Richmond.

If that's ok with the bakers dozen that seems to follow this thread.

GOGD....

....yeah. What happened to him? 11.2.85 is a good show.

SET 1
Bertha >
Greatest Story Ever Told
Dupree's Diamond Blues
C.C. Rider >
Althea
My Brother Esau
Candyman
Let It Grow
SET 2
Iko Iko
Estimated Prophet >
Uncle John's Band >
China Doll >
Drums >
Space >
Morning Dew >
Throwing Stones >
Turn On Your Lovelight
ENCORE
It's All Over Now Baby Blue

11/2/85

Back to back 85, let's do it.

8/21/68 tomorrow?

I caught a little of it on Today in GD History on SiriusXM Radio.. sounded great, recorded on 8 track reels.

Ha, Boreal

Wanted to listen to summer 85 and 8-24-85 was on my music player, so I fired it up without realizing that it was Boreal. Once Bob mentioned Truckee I knew what show it was. Actually sounds better than one would anticipate based on the negative vibe that hangs around the show.
I wasn’t there but aren’t the heat and traffic issues the major reason that this show gets a bad rap?
I’ve mountain biked in that area in the hot summer and the sun is intense up there. And not a lot of shade on the ski slope. Never skied there before but behind Boreal is Sugar Bowl which has some really nice chutes and back country terrain.

Speaking of anniversaries

8-22,23-87
With Carlos on a few songs.

Bound to cover...

11/1/85 ✔️ Forget about this one. Perhaps not the best played show of the year but fun and a great set list!
Yass uncle, most of that tours good. I only saw 2 in Chrotchfester but they were, and are near and dear!
And hey, among other things it’s got a sweet She Belongs!
When this first came out I was like “finally, some 85”, but the haters hated, and over the years I’ve wondered if DL picked a good neighborhood and street, but stopped at the wrong house? Ala Dave. But that’s just thinking out loud and splitting hairs...I like it worts and all!
11/2/85: unfortunately I haven’t gotten to this one, which is a shame cause I’ve not heard in forever. Second set was a go to tape BITD, great set, but I’m not sure I’ve ever heard the first? Need to circle back on it...
Yeah Jim that little 10/31, 11/1, and 11/2 is a nice little southern pie! Though the 29th is worth a listen too.

8/21/68 spinning as we speak. Good sheet mon! Needed a 68 fix! Perhaps VII to carry it on?
I’d like to propose 7/3/66 and the 50th bonus stuff from 7/29&30/66 sometime in the near future?
Perhaps after Conekids 8/22&23&87 rec?

Would really love it if we could do 9/4, 5, and 6/91 for the/(my) 30th anniversary?
I Remember GOGD recommended them last year and I’m not sure I’ve gotten to em yet, so would love to do so if anyone’s down? These were the humping with whales shows so I’d really like to check em out...

But first things first!
Jumped ahead on these since I don’t think I’d be able to get to em Monday or Tuesday, but wanted to keep up on the ole Doc train, with conductor Strider ; ) All aboard!
8/23/71 ✔️Felt this one was hot right outta the gate with a nice Big RR! Perhaps nothing out of the ordinary, but just seemed like a solid, good energy show? Another cool spacey TOO. Also decent helping’ of grease!
8/24/71✔️ I think I might if enjoyed the 23rd more overall? Perhaps situational...but changes is starting to creep into the mix with new tunes! Empty Pages I know I’ve heard, but perhaps not in a very long time, so felt like first time lol.
Interesting, made me think of a Brent style tune...and of course the first Brown Eyed Women, I think?
Fun how it’s so different, especially without the three chord, staccato verse start!
Some more good grease including a Hurts me Too that could easily get mistaken for E72! Tight!
Well, one more then off until October but back with almost yet another whole new band!
Really looking forward to 10/19 as I’ve never heard and there’s all those new songs.

8/21/68

Great Pick!
Another left field chestnut and another notch on the ole bedpost of shows!
Love how they pack so much into a relatively small container.
Good sounding too!

8/21

They played the Dark Star Suite yesterday on TIGDH but I only caught the beginning of the program.. if my ears and memory are correct, the Dark Star started at the beginning yet all of the copies on Archive.org suffer from a reel flip and are missing the beginning. Lemieux also said it was recorded on 8 track and went into a long dissertation about what was recorded on 8 track, then scrapped when 16 track came out, etc.

My thinking is.. it's not copies from the 8 track master that circulate and they have a more complete Multi-Track in the vault just sitting there waiting.. and begging to get a Full Norman and the Plangent Treatment.

@Oro

Ask and ye shall receive, 9-4-91 set I is in this week's installment of the Taper's Section... :-)

'91

I'm down for some '91.