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    September 3 - September 9, 2007
    We have a tremendous variety of music for you this week, spanning almost 20 years of the Grateful Dead’s recorded history, and we hope you’ll find this week’s journey as enjoyable as we did while preparing it for you.

    As we mentioned last week, we have a bit more music from the Family Dog in San Francisco, specifically the encore from 9/6/69, a nice Pigpen-led Midnight Hour, with plenty of good jamming in the background.

    Our next chronological stop on this week’s trip is 9/9/72 at the Palladium in Hollywood (venue of the performance of one of the best-ever versions of Hard To Handle, in 1971). From this show in 1972, we have the second set jam of He’s Gone>Truckin’>The Other One, which features a reel flip that is just a fact of life in these 7” reel-to-reel tapes, which run at 7.5 ips, meaning the tape is changed every 47 or so minutes. It’s always fortunate when the cuts are located in acceptable places, like this, rather than the brutal cuts that often destroy the listening experience. This one really isn’t too bad.

    At this point we jump forward a year to 9/7/73 at Nassau Coliseum, with a song that mightn’t be what people think of first when they think of 1973: Looks Like Rain. This is a really great rendition, and just sounds so darn good, we thought you’d enjoy it. And, for a dose of quintessential 1973 music, we have the first set closing song from the same show: Playing In The Band. I really can’t get enough of these 1973 Playing In The Bands, and this one certainly doesn’t disappoint.

    Going forward to 1985, to 9/3/85 in Kansas City, we have the pre-Drums sequence featuring That’s It For The Other One>Eyes of the World>I Don’t Need Love. The “Cryptical” part of the sequence in 1985 never quite matched the energy or perfection of the 1969 versions, but the “Other One” portion of the song is very good, as is the Eyes and the rare Don’t Need Love. This is drawn from the Beta PCM digital masters.

    Lastly this week, we have a couple of songs from London on 4/7/72, specifically Pigpen’s Chinatown Shuffle and a powerhouse Me and My Uncle.

    As sometimes happens, we have no idea what we’ll have for you next week, but looking at what we have to select from, it’s bound be to be a nice selection of some excellent music. Let us know what you think by writing with questions, comments, suggestions or requests.

    David Lemieux
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    wharfrat1
    16 years 9 months ago
    The sense of entitlement in this group is crazy
    Why? Why does anyone have to explain anything to any of you? Well, I've loved the band for years, well I buy a lot of recordings, well because it's what I feel is the right thing to do, well they took the recordings away from archive,... Get over all of it and get over yourselves. Guess what, it's there music, they can do whatever they want. Period. Instead of being thankful that there are resources like this to hear tasty gems, all you want to do is complain because it's not the way you want it to be. Welcome to this little thing called life, it's not fair all of the time. What makes this worse, is you can still listen to all of these great songs, but once again, if it's not the exact way you want it, well then I'll just complain and resort to name calling. Of course we have to hear, this would not make Jerry happy. Well, how do you know, did you personally know him? Oh, wait you've read a few quotes from him that gave you a keen insight into his mind, so you know exactly what he would think. And of course, I have to read well Jerry said when we're done with it, it's theirs. Yeah he said that back in the early 70's, and I'm sure with the keen insight everyone has into Jerry's mind, they know exactly what he meant and that he never changed his mind. Back to the point that it's still available, how hard is it to click on the song link, pick whether you want to use quicktime or windows media and listen to it? What's worse than that, is the I don't have time to listen to this streaming. Well, if it's important enough to you than you can make time, if not I guess you'll just have to move on. We still have to listen to multiple complaints about Archive.org going away. Listen, there are tons of sources to get copies of pretty much any Dead show that was taped. Not just audience copies, but great soundboard copies. In fact there are several sites that actually have projects where they make every show taped for a particular year available. The best part, it's all free, yes that's right, free. This is all at your fingertips, all it takes is for you to quit being so lazy, take a few minutes and go find it, it's out there. Not to mention that there are 60+ offically released live recordings. But wait, I want the Winterland '73 boxset, not 12/31/76 (which is a great release by the way). Once again, if you really want the 11/73 Winterland run, go find it. I've got all three shows, excellent soundboards, just takes a few minutes to go find the resources to get them. No other band or musician comes close to offering all of this music to listen to, yet look at all the complaining. It's this kind of lazy, complaining, sense of entitlement that gave the scene such a bad rap at the end. With that said, David, thank you for all that you have done and all that you are doing. I am looking forward to your futrue selections for this feature and the future releases you guys are working on.
  • izzie
    16 years 9 months ago
    new forum topics...
    are out there for both streams that don't work and the Starbucks release, which does happen to have a disc of all live material. (even for those of us in tiny studio apartments and driving beat to shit pick up trucks....)
  • Zaorish
    16 years 9 months ago
    The root of the problem
    I've been thinking . . . Why did Rhino acquire everything in the first place? I've been looking for old news articles on this, but maybe someone can enlighten me. Should I assume that that the original GDP with the Dicks Picks and download series was /unprofitable/? If that was truly the case, then there are two possibilities: Either GDP was inefficiently managed, and could have continued to sell the same obscure concerts with only a minor restructuring...or, it could even be that selling obscure concerts to a small number of diehard fans can never be profitable. : ( I dearly hope it's the former. If it's the latter . . . well, then the fans might need to take things into their own hands if they want the Deadhead spirit to continue.
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We have a tremendous variety of music for you this week, spanning almost 20 years of the Grateful Dead’s recorded history, and we hope you’ll find this week’s journey as enjoyable as we did while preparing it for you.

As we mentioned last week, we have a bit more music from the Family Dog in San Francisco, specifically the encore from 9/6/69, a nice Pigpen-led Midnight Hour, with plenty of good jamming in the background.

Our next chronological stop on this week’s trip is 9/9/72 at the Palladium in Hollywood (venue of the performance of one of the best-ever versions of Hard To Handle, in 1971). From this show in 1972, we have the second set jam of He’s Gone>Truckin’>The Other One, which features a reel flip that is just a fact of life in these 7” reel-to-reel tapes, which run at 7.5 ips, meaning the tape is changed every 47 or so minutes. It’s always fortunate when the cuts are located in acceptable places, like this, rather than the brutal cuts that often destroy the listening experience. This one really isn’t too bad.

At this point we jump forward a year to 9/7/73 at Nassau Coliseum, with a song that mightn’t be what people think of first when they think of 1973: Looks Like Rain. This is a really great rendition, and just sounds so darn good, we thought you’d enjoy it. And, for a dose of quintessential 1973 music, we have the first set closing song from the same show: Playing In The Band. I really can’t get enough of these 1973 Playing In The Bands, and this one certainly doesn’t disappoint.

Going forward to 1985, to 9/3/85 in Kansas City, we have the pre-Drums sequence featuring That’s It For The Other One>Eyes of the World>I Don’t Need Love. The “Cryptical” part of the sequence in 1985 never quite matched the energy or perfection of the 1969 versions, but the “Other One” portion of the song is very good, as is the Eyes and the rare Don’t Need Love. This is drawn from the Beta PCM digital masters.

Lastly this week, we have a couple of songs from London on 4/7/72, specifically Pigpen’s Chinatown Shuffle and a powerhouse Me and My Uncle.

As sometimes happens, we have no idea what we’ll have for you next week, but looking at what we have to select from, it’s bound be to be a nice selection of some excellent music. Let us know what you think by writing with questions, comments, suggestions or requests.

David Lemieux
vault [at] dead.net
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hey first i believe people are allowed their opinion. this episode goes back to live archive. does anybody realize that most of us are truely appreciative of the efforts of dave gans and dave L. we are just having fun and whining for the heck of it. most are over the angry faze. so dont take our whining serious because we know nothing is gonna change back to the glory days. so enjoy the whining and go on with our lives. whining is a good pressure reliever. whine,whine,whine,etc.
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David L.,I love this Playin. Thank you for getting that to us. I'm a 73' gal at heart and you're right, the Playins' from 73' are some of the very best. alta
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Can't we just appreciate what we still have. Stop the nasty ass comments and whining. Does it make it better? It is what it is here. Be here now or leave. It's such an easy choice.alta
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tj crowley if we focus on waht we don't have...we can't enjoy what we do have...go back and listen to those gig's that we were allowed(?) to download...
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My comment contained two parts; do not overlook the second point - audacity. I used to be able to get regular samples of Dead jewels here at Dead.net, but they want to take this away. Fair enough, but don't expect me to visit here any more. Especially now that Sirius is broadcasting these same nuggets. All that is needed is a patch cord running from my receiver to my PC and audacity running to capture, record and convert the music to an mp3 file. Not quite as elegant as a straight mp3 download, but dead.net has decided after 18 months (or there about) to stop providing this. They state that downloading was never intended. Sorry to say but they must be incredibly naive to create a section, label it "Tapers Section", stuff it full of mp3's and not expect people to download them. Who the hell are they trying to con? Nobody is that stupid. Now back to my point. I could care less if Rhino & Sirius have a deal. Of course they have a deal. And I have no problem recording these broadcasts and playing them in my car, at work, when I travel or listening to them on my mp3 player. My ultimate point is that I won't be coming back to this location for new music clips - hell they don't want me too anyway. So goodbye & good ridden. We part on amicable terms.
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The stages are: 1. Denial : The initial stage: "It can't be happening." 2. Anger : "Why ME? It's not fair?!" (either referring to God, oneself, or anybody perceived, rightly or wrongly, as "responsible") 3. Bargaining : "Just let me live to see my son graduate." 4. Depression : "I'm so sad, why bother with anything?" 5. Acceptance : "It's going to be OK."
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Of course we are going to download the given tunes, why wouldn't we. (David and all involved folk)...remember, timeless moments happen when things are just groovin. don't control the time, expecting us to listen to our favorites while we are in front of the machine? what about car rides, the beach, picnics, shit man think about it. if your gonna provide this music, take the leash off it! Vive' garCia!
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Boy, I'd sure pay a buck to download this version of Pigpen attacking Midnight Hour!
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I see the recent development with regret. None of us can claim an entitlement to free downloads. As marketing, however, it seemed a logical continuation of the long, successful tradition of making more music available to generate interest. I have long purchased official releases and traded non-copyrighted shows. I listened to a great deal of music from this site. I didn't download it - I tried but was unsuccessful due to my own technical limitations. Downloading didn't seem inappropriate. It seemed to be the intent. I listened to the music on my office computer, including stuff from years in which I had previously had little interest. In this way, the marketing worked. If I could have downloaded the music, I would have played more of this music more of the time, and I expect that my interest would have grown, and I would have pursued and purchased GD music from outside my previously narrower parameters.I don't know if others are able to play any of the posted music now. I can't. The vitriol in some prior comments is unwarranted, but I would urge you to restore the format as it was. It was a great way to continue some form of community enjoyment of the music we love, and, for the business side, to maintain and/or generate interest among your existing market. I remain grateful for the abundance of free music that has been made available, and I urge you to continue an overwhelmingly successful tradition. Peace. Steve Conners
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I've been reading this crap for several day and i get it!!! you can't save it to your hard drive. well get a dubbing cord and a program like nero and record back to hard drive and then you have for ever! why cry about it when you can fix it! loop the cord from the out then back to the in! I just don't get why every one has to be so pissed, give me a break you baby!!!!!!
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Sorry, but the streaming stuff just doesn' cut it. It makes the "official Grateful Dead" site 2nd-rate...unless you're just in it for pretty artwork. I thought we'd get better treatment after almost a year of "under construction". I know, I know--I'm ungrateful and there's plenty of other avenues for crisp, tasty live Dead music whether it be via Internet d-loads or friendly circuits; however, the way the Tapers Section plug was so suddenly pulled on this particular site is a big turnoff. The only reason I've remained logged on is to make this personal feeling known. Can't imagine coming back much in the future. Thanks anyway but streaming blows! Tapers Section was great when MP3's were allowed. Incidentally, I would pay monthly fee as others have suggested... Deadhead-Dan
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No, I don't think you do get it.Keep trying though. Maybe someday you'll understand what us "babies" are upset about. I'll give you a hint - it has nothing to do with building a more complicated mouse-trap to take an inferior sound source and degrade it further. Like someone once said - "Don't piss on my leg and then try to tell me it's raining" Ah.......another wast of good cyber-space. Richard
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We are just minutes away from new material to stream!! If your not happy w/ these arrangements go elsewhere for your live dead!! I agree the removal of the mp3's sux but i'm a fan and alway's will be!! Its sad to me that we who have so much can find so much to bitch about!! I remeber tapes i recorded in the 70's that i completely wore out from playing!! This digital age is truly a Phenomonon!! Rogue
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Why don't you guys just plug a tapedeck/dat/mini-disc recorder to your audio output of your computers soundcard, and just record the audio you want to keep. It's relatively easy enough to do. It's not as easy to save as DL'ing an MP3, but at least you can still record them for future listening. It's just like recording a FM Broadcast from the radio.......... I'm sure you all can figure it out!