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    Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 39: THE SPECTRUM, PHILADELPHIA, PA, 4/26/83 was recorded by Dan Healy and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman.

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  • #581
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    Two avenues of drift

    To DaveRock's point, if you judge the GD by Bobby doing Lovelight or Good Lovin', there's an argument for decline -- those were poor choices, just as Bobby's slide playing really marred a lot of material. Then you have Jer checking out on H, which according to Hunter, "ruined everything." Then you have Phil and his "Heinecken years," which started in '73-'74. So the roots of decline coincided with the loss of Pigpen, and the vagaries of being a rock star (affecting Phil and Jer) and the delusions of grandeur affecting Mr. Short Shorts. Another factor: age and the way maturity and creature comforts rob people of the intensity of their youth. Still, only Jer soldiered on with his own band, sounding fresh and intense even during his H years. (Yes, Bobby too, but not in the same league, and I'm a huge fan of and saw many shows by Kingfish.)

    As for the Stones, I'd had it when Mick and Keith started wearing eye makeup. Yet they regrouped and followed my advice by cutting an all blues album a few years ago. I told 'em, stop writing Jagger-Richards crap and just do the classics you grew up on. Although I only howled this at my stereo in the privacy of my home, somehow the message reached them.

    I will say that I quit the GD scene after 1987's three at the Rocks, two in Telluride. I'd been going full tilt with that band from '71 onward (1st show, '72) and by '87 (full disclosure: I turned 30 that summer), I was done. So I had an age-related issue, too. Still, when cultivating in Vermont in '92 I agreed to catch 'em one last time in Albany with a little help from my friends. (Mr. Blow.) One weak show, one fairly strong. So I bookended a 20-year live thing with the band. But I never flagged on Jerry's band and caught a huge show in '91 at MSG that they just released. One man's story... Which has a lot to do with actual concert attendance. As for the music, well I think everyone knows my position on a hot tape in the comfort of one's home. Gawd, back in fall '72, and the summer of '73, GD shows were marathon survival tests for a 15 year old. I mean, we were essentially little kids with grownup tastes. We had nothing except a t-shirt, jeans, sneakers and blotter. Literally nothing else, no IDs, no money, no hats (RFK '73 = 100 effin' degrees and like three water fountains for 25,000 people...) Yet, here I am!

    Blah blah, woof woof!!

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    Good points. I agree.

    Check your pm.

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    Fun times 1975 to 1995

    All I know is ,seeing the Dead from 1975 to 1995 I really got high a lot and had a lot far out crazy times. Saw a lot of great shows , even the last shows I saw at Shoreline, 6/95 were enjoyable. 40 years ago today, I was hitchhiking up to Portland from the Bay Area to see the Dead. Fun times at the Greek, Frost , Winterland, Ventura, The Warfield and on and on. Garcia & Grisman , Garcia & Nelson & Rothman at the Warfield, those shows were historic. Acoustic Dead at the Warfield, fun times for sure.

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    Not literally, no

    I don't think anyone was suggesting that the post K and D Dead were literally a cover band. They weren't like The Australian Doors or The Bootleg Beatles or whatever .What I was trying to suggest was that after 1975, they lost touch with their creative source-their muse - however you want to think of it. This became, for me, even more pronounced from 1979 onwards. They still played quite a few songs written from up to 1974 after this date, and it was when they did this, that they gave the impression, to me, that they were no longer as creative as they had been in the past. They seemed to re-presenting their earlier more innovative selves in much the same way that a literal cover band might have done. They still played jamming vehicles like Playing, Eyes, Other One etc - but the spark seemed to have gone. For me, any way-its all obviously very subjective.

    They didn't sound like a cover band doing Lovelight with Pigpen singing - but they did when Bob started doing it. Same with a lot of traditional material they played circa 1969-1972. The sounded to me to be connecting with their roots which was then expanded into their own repertoire. So, contradictory as it may sound, they seemed less like a cover band playing other peoples songs between 1969-1972 than they did playing many of their own songs after 1979.

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    Thanks Doc, I don't recall hearing about these shows. Will see if there's a good Charlie Miller on Archive.org.

    Uncle Gary sent me the suite of shows from the Manhattan Center last week, back in early April '71. It's been primarily '71 for me this past week.

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    Take the example of the Sons of the Pioneers: they've been around since 1933 and have been performing ever since with no breaks, with new members coming( while the old ones go...); they were never perceived as a cover band in the 60s or 70s, even though all the founding members had already retired by then.
    Whether you like post-hiatus Dead or not, they were not a cover band; by definition, a cover band performs other artists' songs, and if they copy precisely the original arrangements, they become a tribute band; the Dead were neither(on the other hand, most of Jerry's solo ventures were cover bands with a few originals sprinkled in)
    The big change when Brent joined is the formatting of songs/sets: first set songs, pre-drums songs, drums/space, post drums songs, shorter jams, and overall predictable shows(with a few exceptions here and there.)

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    Cover band

    Not sure what the appropriate term is, but clearly not the same band.

    Just look at the videos. While the available footage from 74 and prior is limited, the band plays with purpose, focus and intensity. In later years, they just seem to be going through the motions. And please don’t mistake the smiles and giddiness for passion.

    You can make the argument that the band had peaks from 78 on, but they are few, far between and often measured in songs rather than shows or entire tours.

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    Uh huh Thin

    I do agree with you on a point Thin. The Dead were not a cover band to me immediately after Mickey came back in 76. I did accidently write that through many copy and pastes trying to organize my thoughts. My bad. What I lost in the process was a comment I had wrote that there was a large enough change in sound and way of playing the songs that the Dead was at that point a substantial degree off separation from their early 70s sound.

    You did not need to point out that they still made great music with K&D after 74 because I said so in my post. So I agree with you on that point too. Just please try to be more attentive.

    Disagree on crushing the oldies. There was an occasional Bertha like Dick's 18 that rocked. Very few Playing in the Bands or Eyes of the World came anywhere near 73/74, emphasis on very few.

    After K&D left is a different story. Yeah they were evolving. Into a cover band. That's when they turned into a new band all together. If the degree of separation from their 71 to 74 selves was a 5 out of 10 to their 76 to 78, selves and the degree of separation from their 78 selves to their 1987 selves was at least another 5 out of 10, and their sound and style of playing those 71 to 74 songs was substantially changed, which it was, then a band is just too far from their former selves to be anything but a new band playing there old songs. Same as the Who. Yeah it's fun, but it's not same band. The word cover band is used very loosely. Obviously they are still called the Grateful Dead and still playing the music that some of the members originally made, but not really the same at all. Wasn't the 2015 reunion a cover band? Of course it was they were the Grateful Dead only in name.

    I do not believe I am projecting but you may be in denial ;-)

    Peace

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    Apologies, too much King Crimson, not enough coffee......

    Rock on!

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    Interesting conundrum about iterations of the music

    Ironic a band with a song called "the music never stopped" has so many diehard fans claiming the music has stopped. My favorite quip to someone at a show these days jibing a younger fan with the old trope "you never saw Jerry! You have NO idea!" I like to ask if they saw Pigpen?! The music IS the true thing we are all after, even the band. A nightly search for the just exactly perfect moment or inspiration from the ethereal realms. The music ending with the band is NOT what I've gathered they intended from their comments. Even Bob recently said he had a dream where Dead and Co. was playing away fiercely except he wasn't in the band. When he looked John, Oteil, and Jeff were old and gray with new players in his spot with Mickey and Bill. Personally I like Bob's dream and that's the way to make sure the music never stops. A lineage of players keeping the flame alive and bringing in younger generations. Not telling the kids its over they missed the party and life sucks now cause you're watching a cover band. I've said it before Fare Thee Well was simply "Fare Thee Phil" It was Phil's retirement party so he could do his own projects, never once thought that was THE END nor was that a Grateful Dead show as advertised.

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We're feelin' Philly 4/26/83 and its '80s highs. See what we're on about when you pick up DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 39: THE SPECTRUM, PHILADELPHIA, PA, 4/26/83, the final show of a three-week tour, played at the venue that the Dead played more than Madison Square Garden (there's your daily dose of Dead trivia). This one fires on all cylinders, with extremely well-played, high-energy tight sets featuring newbies "West L.A. Fadeway," "My Brother Esau," rarities like Brent's tune "Maybe You Know," precise medleys "Help>Slip>Franklin's," an inspired new pairing "Throwing Stones>Not Fade Away," and the Dave's Picks debut of "Shakedown Street."  And before you come down, we've got a prime slice of bonus material from the previous Spectrum show 4/25/83 and an extra dollop of '83 from the War Memorial Auditorium, Rochester, NY 4/15/83 (featuring the Bobby rarity "Little Star").

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 39: THE SPECTRUM, PHILADELPHIA, PA, 4/26/83 was recorded by Dan Healy and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman.

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Submitted by hendrixfreak on Sat, 08/28/2021 - 13:05

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Hey Nappy, on your north rim adventure, did you take the 75-mile dirt road out of Pink Coral State Park, Utah, south past Vulcan's Throne to the campground with the awesome organic toilets?? I've got a great Vulcan's Throne story for you...

Angry One, ah the good old daze, which imprinted more at the time than we could appreciate. And there's nothing like looking back 48 years later to make the old daze seem like the "good old daze," eh? I mean, they definitely were, but it was rugged at the time... the paradox of time...

Vguy, you're KILLING ME!! Dancing to the GD with a shrimp cocktail in your hand.... man, when we were little kids at our first GD shows, we grew wary of the Hum Zone (aka Phil Zone), which was the first 20-30 feet back from the stage where everyone was tripping madly and packed in tight. You show up there with a shrimp cocktail, circa 1972, and you'd a been without shrimp cocktail in seconds! Why they'd a taken the flesh right off your bones!! Yeeehhhiiiii! What a great image, though.

Yeah, that "luxury box" thing is, I think, only for events you don't give a hoot about. If it's a show you want, you go down to the floor and get some. And being barred from smoking, toking, vaping?? Nah, give me KAOS on the floor (with Siegfried) instead!

Oh, and I did enjoy DaP 39, especially West LA Fadeaway, which made me curious to hear a few of the '80s shows from the Rocks, just to hear what I saw... We were impudent young scalliwags back then, old enough to know better but too young to quit.

I gotta stop reading this forum, cuz I keep ordering CDs that I suddenly "need," including Coltrane '65. Will you guys cut it out for, say, 30 days??

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Submitted by Angry Jack Straw on Sat, 08/28/2021 - 15:28

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That was the whole point of the story.

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Sat, 08/28/2021 - 16:22

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....duly noted. I agreed.
And I love shrimp cocktails.
Luxury boxes are stagnant and boring imo. Had a box during a hockey game. Was fun for ten minutes, then I got bored and left.
Found a seat in the lower bowl. Much better.
Even if I was rich, which I am not, I would still mingle with the "unfortunate souls".

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Submitted by Angry Jack Straw on Sat, 08/28/2021 - 17:16

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Absolutely.

A bunch of us husbands have season football tickets just so we can hang out, catch up on old times and drink a few beers. Our seats, by choice, are in the very last row. With the “commoners” as you put it. We have a blast.

Invariably, at every game, one of the attorneys in the group invites us to his firm’s luxury box. No thanks is the universal response. We’re fine right here.

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Sat, 08/28/2021 - 19:32

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....you don't need to be concerned about some asshole behind you trying to start shit. YouTube sports fans fighting in the stands. Back row is a safe spot.
I'm proud to be a humble knave.

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Submitted by simonrob on Sun, 08/29/2021 - 05:32

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Just got home after a week on a Greek island. There it was 34° (93° F) with endless sunshine whereas here it is 17° (63° F) and grey, overcast and raining. What a shit summer it has been here in north west Europe. It was easy adjusting to lashings of Greek food and litres of ice cold Mythos beer. Now I'm home I'm wondering why I didn't stay there. At least it helped to pass the time while waiting for the box set.

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Submitted by Dennis on Sun, 08/29/2021 - 21:51

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The thing I always liked about uphill seats, no security!!!

You could have a damn bong up and smoking and no one was gonna come up to get you. Even if they did you had an unobstructed view of those coming up!!

Always somebody I intended to listen to, but sadly never did. That goes for Jamaican and dub music as a whole really. It was very popular in mid-late 70s England - I can still remember a poster of the cover Peter Tosh's album "Legalize It" in the window of a shop opposite where I lived circa 1977. I've got that, Bob Marley's "Catch a Fire" and a smattering of compilations from Studio 1 - which I think pre-dated reggae slightly.
So much to get into, so little time !

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Submitted by proudfoot on Mon, 08/30/2021 - 09:02

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Don't tell it again. Get lost, whoever the (n(^ you are.

addendum 2 hours later...

Thank you for getting rid of that interloper, GD/Marye

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Submitted by nappyrags on Mon, 08/30/2021 - 20:37

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...no I didn't take that route...I live on the South Rim so I just drove east out of the park to Cameron...then north to the 89A cutoff, over Navajo Bridge on the Colorado River to Jacob Lake and then south to the rim...Might have to look up the route you're talking about, sounds delightful....I almost took the road to Point Sublime but after a few miles of the road steadily worsening I did a quick U and headed back to paved roads...I had about another 15 miles to go...

...just looked it up on google maps...Vulcan's Throne looks awfully close to the Toroweap Overlook which suggests the campground you're talking about is the Tuweep Campground....

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Nappy, sounds about right. Man, we hammered down that dirt road, which was pretty well maintained. I had Bonnie Raitt blasting and did some hoovering of Peruvian marching dust along the way. My buddy was in another vehicle, so as fellow lunatics we raced each other at times, passing in bad places. So, to Vulcan's Throne... we parked just off the road and, immediately, I noticed a large, dessicated rattle from a diamondback sitting on the ground. It's still on my desk, probably ~25 years later. So we proceed to clamber down a do-able outcrop and make our way across a valley to Vulcan's Throne. Ahead of me, my buddy yelps really loudly and I look up to see him catapulting through the air, impressively high off the ground. I was just getting off on the shrooms so I laughed really hard. He looked so funny! When we caught up he pointed out an absurdly large diamondback, fat as your forearm and maybe 6-8 feet long. A sobering sight, but not for long, as the shrooms did their magic. So we climb to the summit of Vulcan's Throne; it's a cinder cone, formerly a volcano (its flows formed Lava Falls on the Colorado River below, sometime in the last 2 million years), so sight lines were good. We're on the summit, peaking, and I said casually, for effect (not believing it myself), "You know, there could be large snakes under any one of these rocks," pointing to a handful of summit rocks maybe 2-3 feet high and 5-6 feet wide. We'd sat on one after reaching the summit. I point my walking stick at the nearest rock and we look underneath: there's another fat diamondback wrapped around the underside, staying warm. We looked at several other rocks: diamondbacks under nearly every single one. We were aghast: we'd just been sitting on one of those rocks. We managed not to panic, but we decided rather swiftly to exit the area, and to do so very carefully. My entire being is now fully programmed for visual identification of diamondbacks. My buddy tried to get conversation going as we hiked back to the car but I told him to stop because I didn't want sound to interfere with my visual scan of the terrain ahead. We encountered a few more rattlers in the valley, but if undisturbed, they're harmless. The key concept here being "if undisturbed." Here in Colorado we have small prairie rattlers (which can still put you in the hospital) and nocturnal faded midget rattlers (diamondbacks only in Las Animas County on the NM border), but the size of your neighbors, Nappy -- truly fat diamondbacks -- definitely intimidated me and I'll never hike the North Rim again without paying FULL attention to every single step. (Good practice anywhere.) We spent 5-6 days out there, truly stupendous country. (The Tuweep toilets were a marvel of Scandanavian design; love me a good outhouse!) Managed to locate some very primitive rock art nearby that suggested they were more than 1,000 years old -- crude symbols with lots of patina.

That's the easy answer as to why cowboys wear cowboy boots, I can say that. And I'll say this: the road trip from Grand Canyon to Grand Junction is one loooong drive. As you probably already know, keep your eyes peeled when you're on foot in northern AZ!

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Submitted by Crow Told Me on Tue, 08/31/2021 - 10:38

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Sometimes I wish there was a consumer protection law that would require that classic rock bands have to include at least 51% of their original members if they’re going to perform under their original name. Kind of like how Taco Bell has to have a certain percentage of its ground beef if they’re going to call it ground beef.

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Tue, 08/31/2021 - 20:15

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....my thoughts. But homemade tacos can't be beat. Jerry's quote wouldn't work regarding....
"Not everyone loves licorice, but the ones that do really loves licorice."
Everyone loves tacos.....

Believe it or not, but google ShaNaNa law, a suit that was started in NJ where none of the original members of the band performed under that name. Now there must be at least one surviving member in the band of it to call themselves that. Like at Queen. They have only two original members. Sorry I used to work as a booking agent ans that was part of our licensing test.

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Submitted by nappyrags on Wed, 09/01/2021 - 08:51

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Got the new email for th download for Playing In Ther Band from the St Louis Box Set but it isn't working...not just me but others too...no problems with the first two that were made available...this kinda stuff is getting really really old fast...

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Submitted by Crow Told Me on Wed, 09/01/2021 - 09:21

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I had the same problem trying to download my FLAC of PITB. I hope TPTB are on this.

While we wait, maybe somebody can explain to me why they don't just make your downloads available as soon as you buy the box set? What's the point of releasing one song, and then waiting a month, and releasing another, and then waiting another month for the next one? Maybe it's kind of like kindergarten, where sometimes they just want you to practice waiting for things?

Glad to hear about the Sha Na Na law law law, but we would have to agree that's a pretty sad standard: you only need one of the original 12 members? What's that, a mere 8%? I expect more beef in the burrito.

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Submitted by proudfoot on Wed, 09/01/2021 - 12:21

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It's good to have a house
It's good to have food
It's good to have intellect
It's good to have a job
It's good to work in a school
It's good to have the GD
It's good to have this little outpost of the internet
It's good to have Listen To The River arriving soon
It's good to have health

"rejoice, rejoice, we have no choice but to carry on"

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Submitted by hendrixfreak on Wed, 09/01/2021 - 15:44

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How about the one on the way to Taos High Bridge:

"Do Not Throw Litter"

Of course, it's perfectly okay to carefully place toxic waste on the ground, just don't THROW it?

Or my fav from Alaska: "At Your Own Risk Road." We did not go down that one.

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Submitted by muffin on Wed, 09/01/2021 - 20:31

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The saddest part will be when the whole band is gone, is it just tributes then? ESP since we are now at a point where the first rock and rollers are going faster and more often. Copeland just died and how Mick and Keith outlasted him is beyond me. Jagger just had a hip replacement and his youngest SON just turned 4. He is also a greatgrand father!!!

A contribution to best sign,
Reported in UK Guardian many years ago.
Sign in an otherwise empty field reading ' do not throw stones at this sign'.

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Submitted by carlo13 on Wed, 09/01/2021 - 21:56

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Sotheby's is auctioning off some of the wall of sound, including a McIntosh amplifier with a rolling parts box. The other items include owlsleys LSD original chemistry set given to 'ramrod' before bear went to the kink. The chem set is estimated to go for $10.000-15,000. Let's start a collection for that chemistry set, guys.

King Crimson have only had one original member playing on stage with them since they split up at the end of 1969. Lyricist and sound mixer Peter Sinfield stayed on board up until 1972.
Hawkwind have only had one original member with them since 1976, and Gong have literally none, although they had the blessing from founder Daevid Allen before he slipped this mortal coil.
All three bands still performing live under their original name.

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Submitted by hendrixfreak on Thu, 09/02/2021 - 12:10

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:Dogon, that's a classic example of a sign that will invite stones to be thrown.

Out here in the American West, it's practically any sign that is riddled with bullet holes, large and small. Except, thankfully, on the Interstate.

One sign that is fairly ubiquitous is: "Speed monitored by aircraft"! Yeah, right! Maybe that was true for like 15 minutes 40 years ago, when the cops "realized" that that was not cost effective, now they're just a punchline.

O-kay, t-minus 29 days and counting... yes, I know I'm on the wrong thread. Story of my life..............

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Submitted by carlo13 on Thu, 09/02/2021 - 15:33

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Thanks to D. for hooking me up with the RTR show. What a show.

Reminds me of the school of thought that suggests that legislating against something often makes the thing being legislated against more attractive than it would otherwise have been.

Dogon - I think you referred to Help Yourself as being a bit like Quicksilver in a recent post, and I have just noticed that a new box set by them has been released of their complete studio recordings. I have never heard them, myself, but they sound worth checking out. If that makes sense.

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Submitted by simonrob on Fri, 09/03/2021 - 04:40

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A fine, fine band. Certainly worth anyone's time and effort to check out their music. The new 6 CD box set anthology has to be considered essential.

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Submitted by Anatexis22 on Fri, 09/03/2021 - 05:33

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I saw that there is a vinyl box set that is or has been released that will include Wake of the Flood, From the Mars Hotel, Blues for Allah and Steal Your Face in a slip case. It's called Box of Dead Gems.

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Submitted by daverock on Fri, 09/03/2021 - 07:16

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Good enough for me. Maybe not today, but definitley before the night draws in.

that I was in a record store and found some GD bootlegs (true bootlegs) with weird nonsense song titles. I think they were from 76.

On the drive to work I checked to see if my "no GD right now" rut was still in place. First two tracks of 11/30/79 rocked nicely. So, hopefully that rut is over.

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Submitted by Dennis on Fri, 09/03/2021 - 11:39

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Ordered a while back, but Richard Thompson's Mirror Blue, in limited CLEAR vinyl came in today.

The clear is really cool!!!

Forgot they were limited to 1200!

Anyone else get this one?

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Submitted by alvarhanso on Fri, 09/03/2021 - 18:23

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The highs are really high, and the rest is good stuff for an end of tour show in the bustling metropolis of Binghamton on November 6, 1977. I particularly enjoyed the St Stephen> Not Fade Away> Wharf Rat> St Stephen Truckin' segment much more this time 'round. The ending of the Truckin' is really strong, and they really nail the ending, and I swear for a moment in the ending, it sounded like Jerry wanted to reprise St Stephen, perhaps forgetting they had already done that after Wharf Rat, which admittedly had rocky lyrical moments. Jerry was also forgetful on Scarlet Begonias, but that's only part of why I've never connected with this Scarlet> Fire, and still didn't this time. Dire Wolf was also an excellent choice in the 1st set, and somewhere I thought I heard Jerry teasing the Dire Wolf lick, maybe Truckin'. Clearly from the tape, they were having fun in the last shows for almost 2 months.

Dave's 26 (11/17/71 & 12/14/71) came up next and I went with it to prepare to Listen to the River in a month's time. Remarkable how different, yet also the same, Truckin' was in those intervening 6 years. And they had to restart Sugaree, and Jerry begs the crowd's forgiveness seeing as "We're new around here", alluding to their New Mexico debut. I listen to The Other One from this show every few months and usually the absolutely incredible Not Fade Away> GDTRFB> NFA. Billy's intro on the drums is just exquisite. First time in New Mexico and they destroy it where Buddy Holly recorded it and Dan Petty gave himself a co-writing credit for producing.

10/18/72 is coming...

My last listen was Dicks 31-the compilation of tracks from 8/4/74-8/6/74. Incredible sky high jams that seem to leave the songs they grow out of behind.
Earlier in the day I finished off 6/9/77, which is also great - very bright and breezy. Skims across the surface a bit compared to the 74 shows. The Help-Slipknot-Franklins is the centre piece of this one for me.

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Has always been a favorite of mine, as well, Dave. The only flaw being the shows are incomplete. But we definitely get the meat. Arby's has nothing on that Playin - Scarlet - Playing on CD 4. (As a brit, DaveRock, you likely don't get that joke, unless Arby's has made it's way across the pond. And if so, on behalf of all Americans, I'm truly sorry.)

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Submitted by unkle sam on Sat, 09/04/2021 - 08:34

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David Crosby is releasing IICORMN which will include outtakes from the session. Do believe Jerry was involved big time with this release and some new unreleased gems will be included in this 2 cd set. The second cd will be all out takes and demos and some new unheard tunes. Always loved this lp and I need to add it to the list of cd's to pick up when it is released in Oct.
Would love some 1970 for Dave's 40.

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Submitted by nappyrags on Sat, 09/04/2021 - 09:30

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as regards Owlsleys LSD original chemistry set...I wonder how much they'd charge to just lick it?

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Submitted by stillwaters on Sat, 09/04/2021 - 10:48

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Just finished listening to this again. I must say, I liked it much better the second time around.
That is all.
Have a wonderful Saturday!!

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Submitted by daverock on Sat, 09/04/2021 - 10:58

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Lebowski99 - no, I'm afraid I don't get it. But I can tell by the tone of your post that there is nothing to apologose for!

Sam - yes, that's a classic album by David Crosby - one more reissue to look out for.

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Sat, 09/04/2021 - 14:43

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....until my first concert since Iron Maiden in September 2019.
Billy Strings in on tap.
Such a long long time to be gone, but a short time to be there.

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Submitted by Mr. Ones on Sat, 09/04/2021 - 15:04

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It’s amazing to me how fantastic some of these releases sound after putting them on the shelf FOR YEARS!! We used to discuss having time to go back and listen to the “oldies”, but I certainly haven’t spent much time doing that lately.
The Dark Star>Sitting’ ’ On Top>Dark Star is a gem to me, given it’s mere 17 minute length. The places the boys go in that first 14 minute section are time travel to me. On to Dave’s Vol.5!!
I do wish all a safe and healthy Labor Day weekend.
Music is the Best!!

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