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    Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

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  • 1stshow70878
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    Dave L. liner notes start out, "I have no idea what happened in the days between April 24th and May 5th, 1978 when the GD took a brief break between the two legs of their excellent spring tour, but when the band returned to the stage May 5th it was with a very different sound. I've always viewed April 24, 1978 as the end of the precision, high octane, perfection-every-night 1977 GD sound, and May 5 as the start of the looser, more playful 1978 sound. Whatever went on in the interregnum, the band's sound changed quite dramatically." Maybe found a good new source of Persian or pure Peruvian?
    Another really good tight show right out of the gate and a great 2nd set. Always liked LL>Supplication and seldom seen as a set opener. Plenty to love here including a Rhythm Devils. Good segue from the latest shows in DaP45.
    Turns out I don't have DaP 7 either. Sounds like Oro and I will be bidding against each other on eBay, LOL.
    Cheers

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    Really good show Bluecrow. Recording is great. The beginning of Jack Straw is cut, but we get most of it. Nice Sugaree, Stagger Lee, It's All over now, TMNS. Great first set. Second set starts with a solid Scarlet Fire. Yes, Bluecrow, the I Need a Miracle, He's Gone, Other One is a good ride. Short run out of drums, with Wharf Rat, Sugar Mag, OMSN.

    Definitely recommend a listen to this show and or repeat listens. Need to spend some more time with Dave's 42 and will check out March 3, 1971.

    Thanks all.

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    Good morning, rockers!!!

    Pick Of The Day: Fillmore West, March 3 1971 (Airwaves Benefit)

    Go to Heaven for the climate, Hell for the company............

    March 1971----little known, little appreciated, lost between the heights of Port Chester and April. Here the Dead kick off the month with a hometown show that is probably never ever on anybody’s playlist………

    Admittedly, it’s a bit short, and sounds a bit ragged, but even “average” shows back in the day have something to recommend it. There is a decent amount of grease, including a slunky Hard To Handle, King Bee, and a rare Good Lovin’ encore. Plus some cowboy Bobby and a decent Truckin’/Other One.

    While perhaps not sonically the equal of some other early 71s, the 2020 Clugston remaster is very listenable, and worthy………….

    Repartee is something we think of twenty-four hours too late……

    Rock on!!

    Doc
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  • bluecrow
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    Great show, glad you're on it. first posted about it maybe year and a half ago and have come back to it at least a couple times on my own. Miracle > He's Gone > Other One > drumz is off the hook. '78 on the brain, it's been known to happen. Glad to revisit.

    Was listening to 2/24/74 through Disc 2 yesterday/this morning. Just incredible sound and playing, same the night before. What a treat to have both of those shows released..

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    Hit this up yesterday. Interesting show. Unfortunately suffers occasionally from the usual primal idiosyncrasies, but otherwise a fine show. Really enjoyed the unusual? set lists and the flow between songs. Loved the LL split into beginning and end. Wonder if they did that elsewhere?

    Going with Greek 83 next couple daze. Maybe I’ll hit some 78 this WE. I don’t have 11/18 on my todo list but not home so can’t check Db, but it doesn’t sound familiar? I’ll follow up…

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    Hey Bluecrow, not sure if we ever listened to this show from the Uptown Theater in Chicago, 11/18/78?
    I have it going now, sounding good so far. I still have 78 on my brain.

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    Oh, my. My 1973 homework is…

    Oh, my. My 1973 homework is cut out for me. A(nother) very weak period for me.

    What can I listen to immediately?*

    I can cue up 2/28, 3/24 (Oh yeah, that's a good one! Looks like I snagged a Betty reel before the dark times)... Heart marks from He's Gone all the way through Sing Me Back Home. Another in the first set for Playin', and 5 stars for the Loser that precedes it. Nothing else is marked, but a first set Stella Blue? Sure!

    Getting into summer/fall, 7/28, 7/31, 8/1, 9/8, 9/17, or 12/4 and I actually have Dicks Picks Vol. 1, for a change. lol :-)
    Some of those I really haven't listened to much. Roosevelt Stadium seems to have had some mojo, but I think I only listened to Jerry's birthday show for the first time last year, and then probably only once.

    *Btw, my Internet was down for 24hrs yesterday. First there was electrical work being done on the building, so no power from 9 to 5! Then, they managed to screw up the phone lines and couldn't get it fixed until well after 9am this morning. So glad I don't depend on Spotify! lol... or streaming from the Archive ;-)

    I had a taste of that mind bending Playin > Wharf Rat > Playin' from 6/8/74 last Sunday, which must be somewhere in the ballpark of the 73 scene we're about to get into. I can't even remember when that had been Pick of the Day.

    Sorry, my listening notes are now way out of sequence as I'm trying to keep pace.

    In the meantime I have been thoroughly obsessed with the 2/22/69 Dreambowl. That was a fantastic pic.
    It's almost been on repeat. Someone needs to make a meme with the (apparently) famous guy on TV getting more and more blown away in each picture. Cool. early '69 show... An acoustic set! ...Mountains of the Moon, too... Mountains of the Moon sequeing into an interplanetary Darks Star... back to back with The Other One!!!!! Mind blown.

    Whole show is excellent. Many many thanks for the "liberating" experience, too.

    Also, RE QC at Deadville... I discovered last year that nugs net has 16b441 downloads of a ton of official albums, some not even available for download here. Shipping kills me, so even though I love physical media, I go for data. Anyway, even some of the downloads have had some dodgy editing or sonic anomalies. I gave nugs a FYI, but they said that's how the data comes and they aren't cleared to mess with it.

    I had the 11/30/80 Fox Theater 2nd set in my music player while I was out yesterday. Lovely, lovely Ship of Fools. Brilliant Playin' into drums into, not quite space, it almost sounds pre-composed, but I kept hearing these Uncle John's Band hints, then it ended up being The Wheel and for a while I thought I was losing my mind, but then they finally get to UJB to close the show. Although I was listening while mainly focussed on work, there were a few points were I wondered if someone ought to make a loud noise because it seemed as if the band was about to doze off. Super mellow mood, which has its merits. Not knockin' a laid back show.

    The real revalation, though, was the 2/19/71 recommendation, which I finally listened through last night.

    2/18 will always be like a favorite sweater or comfort food. However, I can see why you might say the19th is stronger. The 18th is definitely a bit tentative by comparison, what with all of the new songs and Mickey leaving the band, it would be. Although the first part of the 19th didn't really jump out at me, possibly, psychologically, I could have been a bit standoff-ish knowing this show was challenging one of the most nostalgic tapes from my meagre old collection. However, right away it struck me how different the feeling of the new tunes were even though they had only debuted the night before.

    By the time they hit China/Rider on the 19th, though, they seem full of confidence and it sounds like they have found their feet with the new/old lineup. This tune is grooving hard.

    The main thing that struck me about this show was how much it is a Pigpen showcase. Pig is always on it, but the band is rockin' hard behind him on every number from the gritty It Hurts Me Too, to Good Lovin', and beyond. This may be the heaviest Easy Wind I've ever heard. It may be the somewhat gnarly sound quality of the Vadnais transferred audience reel that really adds a welcome taste of foreboding evil to all of Pigs tunes. Probably it's the comparatively sparse arrangements that allow the listener to take a quick breath and really find themselves inside the song. I don't know. Caveat: I did tweak the EQ a bit, but the jury is still out about whether my adjustments improved the sound or not. lol.

    Anyway, just wanted to get out that note about how f'n heavy the Pig tunes are on 2/19. Really felt it.

    Thanks again, everyone!

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    it had been a long time since I'd spun 2/22/69 from 30 trips. everything you'd expect from a show from that time. really enjoyed it and will revisit fairly soon as is my want with shows that tickle my fancy. thanks Doc! on a side note, the one technical difficulty with that listen is that there is something about those discs that my external disc drive (LG M-Disc) really didn't care for. at one point it flat out quit reading Disc 1, something I've never had happen, and while it didn't quit during Disc 2, at several points towards the end it made noises that I've never heard from it before that seemed like the electronic equivalent of an old man wheezing up a hill who was barely going to make it (or maybe not!) this isn't disc rot, its something in how the discs were manufactured i'm guessing. from time to time I've had various weird issues with playability of discs from the GD folks that I've never experienced with any other CDs I've bought. it's very odd. And on the QC issue, I recently pulled out a disc from the Giants box to play it for the first time and there was a big splotch of an opaque light gray liquid on the playing surface, sorta looked like white out except for the gray color. i have never seen anything like it CD-wise and i haven't the faintest idea what the hell it could be or how it could have gotten there. I have a CS request in with Dr. Rhino -we'll see what happens.

    DV - 4/24/78 (DaP 7) was a show that had never really resonated with me - not when it was first issued, and not on subsequent revisits. And I've really gotten into the other released shows from that tour, Nashville and William and Mary. Well, finally got my head properly calibrated and my ears on straight and had an excellent listen. And then I spun it again. Full speed ahead Spring '78 Jerry and the Wolf with that excellent Betty sound. Thank you for suggesting that one.

    Now on maybe my third run through past few days of 2/23/74 (DaP 42). It sounds freaking fantastic! All of it! Blowing my mind! Nothing left to do but smile smile smile!! (Yeah I'm really digging it.) Still haven't cued up the next night, cause I keep getting distracted by all the other good stuff. Maybe tomorrow.

    Gonna have to visit those shows from late February, that one from Austin and Doc's most recent POTD from the Family Dog.

    Take care folks. And great to hear from you Rocktihng!. Rock on!!

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    I’ve enjoyed them all so far DV, but maybe it’s me, some seem to sorta plod for a awhile before they pick up steam in the second set. Recordings were inconsistent too…but?…maybe it was me, as Jim just said so we’ll, sometimes set and setting can have as much influence as the music itself! I actually got to sit a relax and listen to most, a couple I had on while doing household stuff, but I don’t think thats it?
    I’ve always been a huge fan of fall/winter 73, one of my personal top tours, and I purposefully haven’t dug into summer 73 too much as you’d think we’d get some of those sooner than later, but until I got the spring 73 Dave’s, I knew nothing about that tour. 21 With 21, I was a tad nonplused at first, probably just hung up on no Dark Star or other head noise nonsense, but it’s grown on me a lot since. That whole jam sequence is superb, and I’ll take a HCSS anytime!
    16 is one of my favorite Dave’s, so much so I purchased a copy off the black market! 32s good, actually need to listen to that as I’m not as familiar as I should be. I haven’t gotten to Crotchfester or Bu faf a lo yet…
    Every show has a nice big jam sequence, many killer 73 Eyes, a couple ridiculous PITB, some good HCSS, and the Dark Stars and accompanying jams etc, so worth it even just to check those out. Sorry to be so vague but it’s all kinda a blur. As I say, all very similar: relaxed with mostly good playing, until the big jam goes through the roof, rinse and repeat…lol.
    So far, I think the February shows are a bit more to my liking?

    Spring 78: of the dozen and a half or so on this tour, I think I’ve hit 10 so far. Some of the Beatty’s are spectacular and this tour took me by surprise. Getting the big blown away surprise of 4/15 (DaP 37) opened up that flood gate as the only official release I have is 37. I had no clue about this tour before, so yeah, big surprise!
    Hoping Realgone spits out Dicks 18 and that I can get disc copies of the other 2 Dave’s as long/short I don’t do files…actually might try to get 15 off the black market as sometimes those aren’t too outrageously expensive. Didn’t get subs until 21, but since I have a few others, thinking someday I’ll try to get real copies of the few missing so I’ll have 13 onward, with hopefully copies of the rest. I have at least copies of all but 5.
    I still think, partly due to the fine Beatty’s that there’s a potential for a spring 78 box, but maybe not enough interest for that?
    Awright, gotta head to the mine, staycation is over for now : (

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    Hello, rockers!!!

    Pick Of The Day: Family Dog At The Great Highway, February 28, 1970

    As a matter of self-preservation, a man needs good friends or ardent enemies, for the former instruct him and the latter take him to task……

    In November, we were teased with the Little Sadie and Black Peter, so we know that an excellent recording is in the vault. As far as early 1970 goes, the “big guns” of the Fillmores get most of the love, respect, and recognition, but this Family Dog run has some doggone good music!

    Call it a Lovelight sandwich, a grateful buffet with something for almost everybody. Electric/acoustic, grease, jams, old and new, all laid out as if on a platter. Dig in and enjoy!!!

    Those who have virtue always in their mouths, and neglect it in practice, are like a harp, which emits a sound pleasing to others, while itself is insensible of the music…..

    Rock on!

    Doc
    Most men are within a finger's breadth of being mad…..

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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.
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10-31-91

They both have a Dark Star.

Not sure if either of those has already been a pick.

10-27-91 is also nice with Carlos joining.

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But I’m riding the rails of a crazy train!
Did second set of 3/14/81 first thing, decent, but not perhaps 81 Hot?
Then I hit 9/24/91✔️, good show, but perhaps overall a step behind the previous shows, even with the set list eye candy?

Okay, I’m moving onto 10/27/91 as that looks fun!
Maaaaaayyybeee, I can round back to the 3/14 first set I inadvertently missed and got faked out with the Bama/GSET start, and pick up the DHB Hat Trick!
Aaaaaahahaahhaaaaahhaaa (cue the Ozzy laugh).....
ONWARD!

Mañana: looking at some combination of 3/20/81, DP 17 9/25/91, and 9/26/91, ASAP anyway....
Hoping to tag Spring Europe 81, and at least the rest of Boston 91,...if not October Oakland 91, before the new box arrives.

Whoa, 10/27 off to a strong start...can they sustain it?

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Holy crap man, you are busy.
I don't want to miss another OB pick, so either of those 81 shows sounds good to me.

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not potdwd but thought I'd share some outer world stuff. last week had to journey back to the Midwest for a family "event" - first time traveling like that since the beginning of the plague times. a solemn event at the center but good to see us together and to see family friends again in some cases after many years. and by complete coincidence Dead and Co. was at Wrigley during that time. wasn't originally planning on going but in the end that would have been a true mark of losing my "alleged" mind and with great urging from my brothers, the younger brother scored some tickets. vax card or neg. test for entry. so glad we made it. not quite as carefree as the old days but boy oh boy did i need some of what they were dishing up. first night was a weather night - lots of rain and lightning delaying the show and cutting the 1st set short. second night was picture perfect early fall evening. lots of great tunes both nights - gotta run to work so won't get into a detailed breakdown now - you can find the set lists on line. Scarlet > Deal> Fire and Dew 1st night with Ripple encore. better seats night 2 - Set II was freaking awesome end to end. China > Rider, Estimated > Eyes, Milestones out of space, into Days Between > Help > Slip > Frank. I get choked up just thinking about it.
Drove both there and back, old school, didn't sleep in a cave in the hills but did crash out for a couple hours at the museum in Eagle at 3am on my way back.

Take care everyone. Hold your loved ones close in your heart.

Onward!!

Ha.. love it.

I'm a convert to the after dead bands. I think I've written about this before here.. but after ignoring it for more than a decade.. I saw Phil by coincidence on Halloween in 2007 and kicked myself in the ass for being such an arrogant snob about my dead life. First, it was a good show, second.. I had so much fun. I was working in NYC and got off the subway to a complete circus in full swing, scored a ticket at cost still wearing my work garb, PC over my shoulder and the rest unfolded rather nicely. What a blast.. I get that people don't like or won't like D&C, but I think they are good.. listen to Oteil sing Comes a Time / China Doll or Chimenti throw out these incredible fills in Eyes of the World.. and yes, Help/Slip!/Franks is awesome. As much crap as people give Mayer, he is talented and capable. My favorite meme sent to me this week by someone here actually.. was of Chumlee wearing a steelie knit hat telling the Pawn Shop owner guy he wants to see Garcia on Acid.. and the reply.. the best I get you for that is Mayer and Advil.

So I finished 4/1/91 this morning, a great little show.. I love Bruce in these years, but I think they kept Vince in a box. I would have liked to see him play piano more and synth less. As we rode down to Fenario....

Anyway... I will start 10/31 later today and I have marked my Calendar on 9/24/2022 to start all those great shows Oroborous picked out. Really looking forward to them. :D

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Just wasted another half hour of my life so this lame ass web site could eat my post and tell me I’m “not authorized”? WTF?

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All kinds of colors to address today.

BLUCROW: glad you were able to get a live fix! Couldn’t believe how much of a soul hole got filled with P&F last week and that was just streaming, I can only imagine how great it would of been live...
You talking “our” Eagle? If I’d known I’d have bought you breakfast! Lol, but I’m sure it was an unplanned stop...

JIM: yass I’ve been fortunate to see ? (Perhaps more than Dead?) many post JG shows by TOO, Mickey, The Dead, P&F, D&C, Furthur etc, I don’t understand why some folks dislike it so much? Too each their own, one one gathers.....

VGUY: bet 10/27 was a powerful show to be at! Looks like ole Strider was there too.
Any comments on the other three shows from this run, as I’d like to tag those next week?
I enjoyed this show, good energy, it’s yet another solid, well played 91. Only miss I recall was in Cassidy...great guests with extracurricular highlights take it up a notch. Must of been fun to be at!

3/20/81✔️ Fuck this sucks having to do all this over again, ahem, but I digress..
Hit this first thing today.
Good solid show, perhaps not the barn burners of May 81, but good show. First perhaps a tad laid back, perhaps keeping things tight and right for the first return to the continent in seven years?
Nice rainbow mix of songs to present to the crowd, many perhaps seeing the band for the first time?

Second set picks it up with some good energy. Slight transitional hiccup from S-F, but overall a well played show.
By Truckin’ their starting to feel their oats and bring it all home with a classic R&R ending!

Okay, forgot what else I tried to post?...on to Dicks 17 9/26/91 as I need some higher fidelity R&R for FAC!
Relative new comer to my collection, but I recall being pleasantly surprised when I first heard, so looking forward.

Hoping to hit 3/21/81 and 9/26/91 mañana...really looking forward to 9/26 as it has a sexy set list and was on that early wish list of Dave’s...

Sunday, I have a special request I think you’ll like?

But, hup, hup, bavpck on the crazy train, I got shows to tag!
Happy Friday Amigos!
ONWARD!

Yep Oro - I was in the neighborhood! Needed a 2 hour mind and body recharge and hoping I wouldn't get rousted. Saw a few snowflakes at Loveland and Vail. The live fix was a big deal after the last couple years. brother(s) - "as your attorney I recommend you see a show." more below.

Jim - The Weirwolf - yeah I think its pretty f*ckin funny. I didn't see any Shakedown near Wrigley. Remarkably little vending. after that magnificent second night curving back around front of the stadium on way "home" and there's a lone(ly) Head holding up a sticker that reads - God Bless the Weirwolf. I think "that's pretty good!" and also notice that no one really seems to see him. It was odd - he's holding these stickers just above his forehead, silent, and its like he's invisible as the crowd flows around him. I wasn't really in acquisition mode and got about a hundred ft past before I turned to my brother and said I gotta go back and get that (1 for $3, 2 for $5 - picked up 2). The seller sincere - "Thanks Brother" as Bobby the Weirwolf was blessed and reaffirmed. A small momento of those nights which I'll remember forever. Bobby looks wild nowadays. His singing on Days Between was like a possessed Spirit. Archetypal. A freaking Weirwolf for sure howling out visions and prophecies.

Rain first night was one of those added dimensions that doesn't phase me nowadays. Of course tickets were covered, high in the Upper Deck just past 3rd base so we weren't getting cleared off the field (not once but twice.) But yes, I can dig some weather. By end of delayed and abbreviated first set we were hanging in upper aisle with room to dance and just checking out the parade of China Cats - so cool to see all these happy people. D&Co with Weirwolf singing opened second set with a very slow groove, funky Dancing in the Streets, nothing like any version I've heard elsewhere. Really really dug it. "Dancing in Chicago" Segued into a nice always welcome Playing, then Scarlet. Mickey on the BEAM was awesome - the whole stadium in rumble-vibrate cobalt-light phase. I love that shit. Special shout out to NY Tim and crew from that 1st night. God it was fun.

althea > uncle john's > he's gone to open second night. really? yes! and that second set night 2 had a fine fine groove all through. sweet sweet sound and all jammed out. Milestones was crazy - i was dancing so hard to that. It seemed like something was afoot between Chimenti and Mayer during space before they got to THAT. and the H>S>F to close was out of this world - all of it - wild how "Roll Away . . . " carried through the stadium.

So yeah Oro - getting to experience all of that live was very cool and very necessary .

I saw a few post-Jerry shows from '96 - '05, all in the Front Range, a fair number at Red Rocks that most awesome of venues. Totally forgot until this evening that the first was a Merle Saunders show in a tiny club in Colorado Springs. Awesome time - my first Dark Star! But it was a Further event at Fiddler's Green in '97(?), including sets by Mystery Box and Rusted Root, that really brought me around to the fact that Jerry was and is still with us. With all those shows it wasn't simply "nostalgia" - there was always new music being played. The first P&F show at Red Rocks July 2001 (7/6) "floored" me (check out the set list for that show and second night). When they dropped into Blues for Allah I looked at my friend with one of those wide-eyed big smile yhgtbfkm looks of pure joy. dream and myth. Really dug what Warren Haynes brought always. And Jimmy Herring. John Molo. Ryan Adams in the guest slot with Phil 2002(?). Mayer and Oteil and Chimenti. Every one of the music makers.

So yeah - my thought is someday maybe "we" can all enjoy a few beers together. Even a show or 2.

Which reminds me - where in the heck is GOGD?

Take care friends. Enjoy the evening and the weekend.

Under Eternity

onward :)

speaking of weather shows - this is a pretty good one from back in the early Brent years
8-16-1980 Mississippi River Festival, Edwardsville, Illinois
I think i remember reading one of those random reviews in Deadbase. managed to miss the Uptown run a few days later but caught Alpine right after that. Second set 1st night at Uptown is insanely good.

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September 91 just keeps on giving.

For those who do torrents I noticed (and then acquired) that several remastered September 91’s had been posted recently.
I haven’t checked them out yet to see what improvements had been made, but I did notice a few days ago that my copy of 9/22 has a several second long gap of silence between Drums and Space. I was going to edit that out but maybe I won’t have to if a remastered version is available.

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3/21/81✔️ More of the same, in a good way, just nothing extraordinary, that stands out during these shows so far?
9/26/91✔️ This one goes both ways...it has some of the consistency of the tour, but this night, has somewhat out of the ordinary stand outs. Big shhhhooooeee, (think Ed Sullivan) on paper at least.
I feel the same about some of these versions, as perhaps other post re-entry versions: there not the best performances of the songs you’ve ever heard, but so what, overall, there enjoyable, invoke the spirit of the music, have good jams, space, etc, and when tied all together in a nice container like this show, said container should be pasteurized and served cold to a thirsty public!
Not unlike other official releases, this wouldn’t perhaps be the most polished show from the neighborhood, but to me, the bigness makes up for it. What can I say, I’m a Dark Star junkie and sucker for any attempt to tapback into the timeless reflection of matter...and hey, it’s got a Cumberland!

BC: 80 shows noted for future mining...but first, perhaps one last indulgence:

9/26/81 for mañana, mucho por favor...
Besides being my 40th anniversary of this show, it’s shown up over the years on tapers section and GD channel etc, and I believe Dave has specifically mentioned it before, so since we’ve been enjoying some 81 lately I’d hoped y’all indulge an old freak uno mass?

Hey Oroborous, 9/26/81 sounds great to me. A little Buffalo NY and your first show.
Had a chance to listen to the 3/20/81 London show. Wish there was a better sounding recording available. I seem to remember Blair Jackson talking about how great these shows were and what a bummer it was that there was not better recordings available.

Hey Bluecrow, you got to see Dead and Co. Sounds like fun man. I need to check out your 80 recommendation. Oh and remember some of us live in the Midwest.

Stay well out there.

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9/26/81 - all in!!

glancing at set list night before that and there's something I've never seen - a Sugar Mag / Sunshine Daydream sandwich post drums. '80 and '81 are filled with great shows and it would have helped if Betty had been at the helm recording a whole bunch of them on reels (cue picky deadhead comment).

DeadVikes - trust me the Midwest is still the land of my childhood heart. I know you're back there but was thinking you were somewhere a bit north of Chi-Town?

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Oro - a great pick made even better that you were there. A sweet listen end to end. It was that very rare Sunday morning when I'm up in the work space and it was a perfect show to stream. Must say, like about every drummers birthday riff, Bob is totally making it up as to Chuck Berry's birthday. I'd love to ask him about that made-up birthday thing he's got - he was trotting it out all the freaking time.

Gotta hope that the first set is in the vault in well-recorded entirety . Great songs, excellent and spirited playing. full throttle Shakedown > CC Rider to start. Oh my goodness. V Guy has his Cumberland thing. My "thing" is a slightly more expansive. Not just Cumberland, but Brown-Eyed Women, Peggy-O, and Jack-a-Roe(!!). Big Railroad. Me and Bobby McGee. This show has both Brown-Eyed and Jack-a-Roe, plus (added bonus) On the Road Again. Before 8/7/82 my youngest brother (#1 son counting backwards) said he wanted to hear On the Road Again. I said no way they're playing that. You bet, they played it.

That pre-drumz second set has got to be unique. The transitions from Bertha > Estimated and Estimated > Going Down The Road are pretty B/W, as is GDTR > drums, all very cool in the energy shift. Love the tone on circa '81 Not Fades (just wish they'd jammed it out a bit more.) Bobby has a tiny misstep trying to bring back the NFA chorus. But Jerry is all focused on Morning Dew, not that it's immediately evident, but no big deal Bob.

Given an earlier comment I made, the portion of the show available from Healy's cassette master sounds pretty damn good.

Dave L. - release the hounds, I mean, release this show ;)

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Ha.. serendipitous. They played the post space part of 9/25 on TIGD History yesterday on SiriusXM. Dave got into quite the tangent on the venue, hockey and the guy called The Earl of Bud that got rowdy at hockey games and danced to the Tequila song whenever they had faceoffs...

I was up early and gone all day driving into some of the more remote areas in Southern WV for some river fun.. what a beautiful state, had a blast.. so I had a lot of time in the truck to listen to music and out the door at 7am brought me to the later half of the second set. ..but it only had the Playing Reprise.

I was in the truck 12 hours later and got a relisten, so I hit the full second set when I got back. Sweet second set, plus there's a pretty good Miller update that came out somewhat recently. Double Sweet.

I guess I will have to hit the first set today. Great pick guys.. nice early show Oro (I think that came somewhat early in your show seeing days??).

Onward.. have a great week all. Fall has arrived here in the mid atlantic.

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Yes, bring us some more 81!
Took a crack at this show yesterday. What a show to be at Oroborous. The first set recording that is available needs some work, but yes I agree the second set Healy that is available sounds much better. You would have to think he has quite a few recordings of his own that will continue to drip out.

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Lol, glad they won!
Glad y’all dug 9/26/81! ...glad we’ve been digging the 81/91 pre 71 cleanse.
I sorta remember something about BJ and the Europe 81 tapes, but was it the spring, or the longer and more well known fall Europe tour? Hmmm, have to research that one since slacker GOGD isn’t here to do it for us LOL.
We miss ya buddy!

This was my sixth show, (over span of almost 3 years, later I’d routinely tag that many in one tour lol)
It was perhaps the only time I attended a show that was part of a social gathering (I can even remember most of the bars we went to after), and the first time not in prime seating location.
Though we had decent seats: right side, up and back probably half way: I’d been fortunate to see 2 Front row, 2 third row, and ? probably 10-15 rows back on the floor for 11/9/79, so this was a big difference and sorta distraction, not that I would be able to understand that then. I just knew it sucked not being close up!
Yep, Jim, Klondike Keek, and I, better know then collectively as the Booze Brothers, with Milton Wikelberry Steamer III, Tammy M, aka Buzz Kitten, and a couple of the Gates brothers that hung with Milty...perhaps more?
So I remember On the Road Again (my only one) as Reckoning was new and in heavy rotation, and I know I loved it, but back then our knowledge of all things Dead wasn’t like now with Net and deadbase etc. so it was just sorta another Dead show. Over the years I had kinda forgot about it, and when I finally did hear it back a couple years, it was only a superficial treatment. I think late at night at a party on a shitty smart speaker?
But my cousin kept telling me how Dave and Blitz kept playing it or parts here and there and seemed hot on it, so I’ve been wanting to catch up with it, and have been planing on it for a while. So of course the day comes, and I was hoping to get a nice mellow Sunday morning listen with some coffee, and when the weed is just right and hasn’t taken over the conversation for the day yet,...but, well, shit happens lol.
So long story short it’s gettin on late afternoon, so ended up watching football before, which long story, was a bad tactical error lol, so when I did hear it I was sorta wrecked, definitely burnt after afternoon beer buzz etc, so needless to say THAT run through wasn’t productive lol.
But got up today and have been quite digging on it this beautiful AM!
So come on Dave, bring it! Ha!

BLUCROW: still laughing/smiling over that Weirwolf story and the vendor...Think many of us have had a similar experience! Great stuff eh! Sounds like we were at many of the same front range shows back 96-05! Good Times fo sho!

JIM: I’m confused? You mentioned Dave speaking on XM? about 9/25/91, and Earl of Bud etc,?
Earl of Bud, Earl Patterson Howze Jr, was a fan favorite and staple at many Buffalo events for decades. He was a Beerman but wore this white tux and did the pee-wee big shoe dance during breaks in the game etc. he became quite a local celebrity over the years...id lynx if I could, ahem...
So if 9/25/91 was in Boston, which is a rink with a despicable lol, but pretty good hockey team ; ) but Earl was in Bu fa falo, I’m confused? Perhaps Dave was discussing 9/26/81, again...?, which gives me hope! Lol, see, it’s always about getting shows released!
Rural West Viginny, yasss sir that there is pretty country, just keep an eye out for that random banjo music ; )
Sounds awesome, git yer paddle on Bra! Boo yah!
ONWARD

perhaps 10/28/91? Kinda burnt, maybe later...

Still have 3 spring 81, the last 3 Oakland October 91, and 4/1/91, and Blucrows 80 suggestions....yeeshk
Well, if the box comes on time, sorta?, then these outta keep us busy till then!
Hope y’all get yers sooner than later!

PS, if you haven’t checked out 9/26/91 ya should!

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Dave was hyping up 9/26/81 for TIGDH. He was speaking generally about the venue.. that he had never seen the Dead there but had seen several hockey games at the same arena. ..and the Earl of Bud dancing. Does that make more sense?

Got my only On the Road Again at my first show a few months later in Baltimore.

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Yeah, 81 was the last time they played there, never played the “the MA”, (until post JG) the venue that replaced the old Aud
The Aud was one of those old war memorials that were everywhere, and especially up and down I 90, a big nasty drafty old place. Think they only played at the Aud 5 times? Twice in 73, and once in 77, 79, and 81? Hell, they didn’t play Buffalo much until Rich stadium...Starting in 86, they did five shows at “the Ralf” as known to locals, aka Rich Stadium. But I think only like 12 times total, if you count the legendary 3/17/70 philharmonic show! I’d give up my front seat in hell for a Beatty of that one!
Earl of Bud was always a smile! Bet Angry Jack knows of Earl from both the Aud and the MA.
I’ll take it as a sign since this show keeps popping up on “official” channels!
Hey, Hendrixfreak doesn’t get to be the only one lobbying for @ shows lol!

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yesterday Hundred Year Hall was released. What a great recording, the art work for this release was and is out of sight and the liner notes by Hunter are just exactly perfect. So I am recommending it even though it is not a complete show, it still sounds mighty good. Of course you can hear the entire show if you bought the steamer trunk.

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Holy Crap... it was that long ago? Two comments.. I am old and Garcia has been gone a long time now.

Thanks USam.. Agree, one of the best releases... ever. The whole show is great and that transition from Lovelight into GDTRFB is super special.

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is what I used to call my farmer friend down in Gainesville...badda BOOM!

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Yes, still have my original copy and it is beat to smithereens.

I believe we hit up the full show not too long ago, but great shows always need to be listened to again.

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I first heard it in a car going to see Phish 10-27?-95 at Wings Stadium in Kzoo (also went the next night at The Palace and had a floor seat next to the SBD).

HYH sounded so much better than my tape collection at the time.
But I didn’t buy it at first because it wasn’t a complete show. When I did buy it I rearranged the chop job to at least be in the correct order and burned CD-R’s. I still have my copy of HYH.

So, the STL Box is now delayed a week. Hopefully it doesn’t get delayed again, and hope that DaP40 doesn’t get delayed.

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Just finished Space from 7-14-85 and it was mighty fine.
I like Drums/Space and 84 and 85 have some good ones.
And the 90’s versions can be as psychedelic as anything that came out in the 60’s.
Good fun!
Unless you’re not having fun, which means that things could get pretty dark….

Ever heard someone in your area say “make it stop”?
Yeah, they’re not having fun.

Oh yes.. I always managed to pull through, but there were moments when...

Reminds me of a non GD peaking experience decades ago.. in the basement still in high school, my brother called us all up to the house, we had a much safer place to be just down the street.. but unwisely headed up anyway. He pretty quickly figured out we were all tripping.. he wasn't but had an alcohol buzz and wanted us to share some greenery, which we did.. so he puts on Electric Ladyland, when side 4 came on he really cranked it up.. the folks were upstairs and it just got way to heavy. I kept thinking what if they came down the steps, oh the horror... I had to leave the house for about a half hour and look at the stars. Everything was breathing and distorting, like living in a Salvador Dali painting. I had this feeling all night like I was 3 feet tall.. Make it stop.. ha, yes, that was it. Still raining still dreaming....

Speaking of space.. my brother went on to greater things and spend his life putting things into space.. he's retired now, but ended up becoming a rocket scientist, perhaps it all had the desired effect on him. I thought I'd add that as it kind of rounds out the story nicely...

Maybe tomorrow we could hit something with a Watchtower in it..

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There just happens to be one in the show I’m currently listening to, 3-23-92.
I’m currently on, guess what?, Drums/Space!
But there is a Watchtower coming.

I was at this show and the next night. Good fun.
Bruce’s last as an official member.

Check out the Music Never Stopped from this night.

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It's new to me, I'm in.

For what it's worth, I caught the first Watchtower at the 87 Greeks. On the second chord I turned to my gf and whispered, "watchtower." No fantastic guesswork, they were pulling out new Dylan shows left and right that year and the year before. It was just a matter of time...

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Morning Dew is quality too.

Full Disclosure:
I skipped the first 2 songs of Set2 on my listen tonight.
All the rest was just what I needed.

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3-23, not 3-24 is what I listened to tonight.

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Hello Friends!

It has been some time since I have chimed in here, but I do check in regularly and still play along as often as I can. I would post more often, but for some reason, the website usually logs me out when I click on any of the comment pages. Not sure why, or why it didn't do it this time, but oh well.

While I am here, may I make a recommendation? This past weekend, I listened to 9/26/81 Buffalo and it blew the doors off! Whew! If anyone is interested, I would listen to it again. There is a really nice Matrix on the Archive - The "Shakedown" opener is all AUD, but it settles in nicely after that.

If you are interested, I would recommend going in blind - the second set is red-hot and pretty unique!

Happy Hump Day,

Peace

Ha.. we did 9/26/81 three days ago. It was an Oroborous pick. They played it on TIGDH the same day. Something must be in the water...

Edit: Safe to say, we all loved it.

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Glad ya dig 9/26/81.
Don’t forget 9/26/91!

No post time, but I’ve been listening:
Hundred Year Hall✔️ (Short version but in sequence)...smoking! Yaaasss that transition is interesting...l
10/31/91✔️ Need to hear this one again! Perhaps on All Hallows’ day?
3/23/92✔️ Nice show, saw the 2 before...if I wasn’t back in school, broke, and the 20 year old still causing me debt, I probably would of gone to these? Ce la vie! Interesting/unusual Victim, Sweet Dew!

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Yes Oro, it’s a good one.
I felt that 10-31-91 should have been in 30 Trips, and that 9-10-91 should have been an unlimited general release so that people who don’t collect the limited releases could have a companion to 3-29-90 and get 2 shows with Branford.

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Which will be the next 1974 show to be released? Interesting question to ponder. There are a handful that come to mind for me.

5-25-74, 7-25-74, 6-20-74, 6-30-74, 6-8-74...

I'm not that familiar with 7-25, but it has a Dark Star...

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I'd add 2/22 and 2/23. Man... why didn't they do a Winterland '74 Box Set?

I can't believe how many 74's have been released and how few we have left. I did a quick count.. of the 40 shows performed that year, 28 have either been released or partially released (I did this really quickly, I missed be off by a show or two). This means only 12 are not already in the ether? And a few of these are not ready for prime time.

Still.. a few gems to see the light, love your list Wilfred.

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a quick story related to this show. - I didn't attend but a funny thing happened a "few" years later. if i already shared this story here in the fog of the last year and a half, i apologize.

ca. 1997 i had recently relocated in the desert southwest, off the beaten path. one other deadhead that I knew of in that tiny town. one night he mentioned a river running buddy of his from Flag had dropped off a list of shows he had to trade would I be interested? On that list was an audience of 7-25-74, International Amphitheatre, graded a C+. It was a '74, i grew up near Chi-Town, of course I asked for that. One night a few weeks later the friend of a friend stops in town briefly and he and I got to talk outside under the desert night sky for a few minutes before he continued down the road.

he had, in fact, taped the show (from the balcony?) - yes it was "his" tape, and i think the only show he ever taped. he was proud of it, myth time, stars in his eyes thinking about that show. i can't remember most anything he told me except that he was seriously d*sed (by someone close to the band?) and the ship of fools encore was absolutely righteous.

listening to it I'd say a C+ grade was generous (of course it was his baby.) but you could hear the music and get into the headspace. I dubbed a copy and sent it to a friend back in Chicago (his day job was at Dr. Wax.) a few weeks later I got an excited letter from him. he had reached out to some folks in one of the elite tape trading forums and found out that there were no tapes of this show known to be in circulation. none. zip. zero. a big goose egg. and so not only a non-circulating '74 but also a non-circulating '74 Dark Star (or DS jam for some) and in that there was a Slipknot tease. so this obscure tape caused something of a stir. the folks who were putting together the first volume of the Deadheads Taping Compendium wanted my friend to write a review for the first edition but then decided it was too late to get it in (already in galley i guess.) my buddy was able to trade it for some pretty cool stuff at the time. years later the board finally began to circulate, its in the vault and parts of it have been featured in Jam of the Week, the taping section, 30 days of the dead. but not clear if it was in the vault way back in '97.

so yeah, Dave. L, release the 7/25/74 hounds also!

and 2/22 and 2/23 absolutely need to see the light of day sooner rather than later

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Oo oo oo, mr Kotter!
Yasssss, that sounds like a good start today!
Then imma gonna continue on with Spring Europe 81, believe I’m up to3/23/81?

74 you say?
Perhaps we should do some mañana for a little FAC?...

Yas WTJ, what will be next indeed?
I say he trickles a couple more biggies out, and then lumps what’s left, pieces and all into a “74” box....

7/25/74 is the big dog on paper, though I think I recall liking 5/25/74 better, but ya know how that goes situationally etc. 6/20/74 certainly should be near the top of a 74 list....I thought 5/12 and 6/8 were ok, 7/12 I don’t recall, though I’ve heard it? Ya know something will happen with the February shows....the rest I’m not familiar with?

BCROW: cool story! Thanks for sharing.

JIM: “I felt 3’ tall and just wanted it to stop” lol...I remember my first time after like 12 hours or more, eventually at least lying in bed wishing I could fall asleep, and thinking “hmmmm, so this is what they mean by your either on the bus or off”, thinking it wasn’t ever going to fully go away and thus I’d be “on the bus” forever lol, and wasn’t sure yet how I felt about that?
Eventually I think I finally was able to go to sleep. The jury’s still out on the rest...

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I suspect that the remaining 74’s will trickle out as DaP’s.
Too few remaining to Box ‘em up.
Need them for subscription bait.

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mhammond had it right many years ago. He called for a WOS box.. box up all the remaining '74's and give us a box.

I have to say, although the great ones are gone, it's not too late. We could have said the same thing about 1972 before we got the trunk.. I mean, they did release a good portion of this and decided for the box and re-released the already released ones for good measure.

Give us WOS Box Set Dave.. and include 2/22 and 2/23 as bonus discs.

(true confession, I love 1974 GD)

That is great Bluecrow. Might be a good story for liner notes at some point in time.

Funny, I was just listening to Dick's #12 this week.

Of course I would love to see an October Winterland Box with video released, however, not sure they would go back to that again.
If they ever did, it would rival the sell out time of GSTL.

Looking at 9/25/76 Capital Centre for today. The first half of Dick's #20. Need some 76, it has been a while. Hope you all can join me on this one.

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Love that release.. fall '76 has some good stuff. Check out Jerry's work in the Supplication Jam.

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It is....
...thought we were going 74 lol, but ole DV called an Omaha audible at the line, which is nice, because 76 sounds better to me, as 74 is too close to the box stuff, and no offense to anyone, but I’m still kinda burnt on pre hiatus stuff, so 76 sounds good!
I’ve been really digging the 91/81 self imposed cleanse/distraction, but 76 will be a nice cleanse from the cleanse lol.

Speaking of 91/81, finished my 91 quota for now, and with the completion of 3/23/81 and 3/24/81 I only have 3/28 left which I hope to get to tonight or tomorrow...

But first I must praise these last 2 Looooondon Rainbow shows as they are stellar! They seemed to get a little better each night of this run, with a big step up on the 23rd. Overall great show, with the tours only Bird Song, set opener no less, Lay Me Down, cool Playing and jam, continued into the other one, Stella etc, and a rare Casey Jones! Sweet!

The 24 first set is awesome cept for the cowboy Bob BS, sorry, had to skip that, but is more than made up for with otherwise good set list.
SHAKEDOWN!...whether you listen to this show or not, YOU MUST! check out this Shakedown!!
I can’t believe I’ve never heard or heard about this one...everyone goes on about the next show, which is a good Shakedown, and I’ll be comparing as soon as I get a good chance, but I don’t recall 3/28 being this good?
From there they keep ascending until He’s Gone, which is ok, but perhaps too much of a pressure drop?
Fun drums, into wheel, and Trucking, but then status quo enders...
Nice false start Brokedown to round it all out!
If you dig 81, I think you’ll really enjoy these 2 shows!

Ok next up 9/25/76!
Next after?, ...Probably hit the other half and that Essen show...

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I've been enjoying that one ever since it was featured on 30 Days of Dead. You're right, it's at least a top 10, if not top 5 for me.

9/25 is an absolute classic with the Grateful Dead transcending through some tough times. I think Rex Jackson had recently passed away suddenly and unexpectedly.