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    Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

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  • strat-wolf-bean
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    Echoing All the Other Kind Posts here

    ... Wishing you the very best going forward.

    Although we never met, it seems we were at quite a few of the same shows - East Coast, mid to late-ish 80s time period (late '84 - spring '85 through mid '88 Oxford Plains). I always enjoy your contributions here, and the amazing way you share your love of the band.

    Shine on, Keep on Shining!

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    My sincerest condolences and sympathy, Doc

    Never met you in person, nor Mrs. Doc.

    But this band and board has brought us together, nonetheless

    Deepest empathy to you and your family

    :_(((

  • billy the kiddd
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    Doc, I'm sorry for your loss.

    Losing a family member is tough. Hopefully the passage of time will ease your sadness.

  • Oroborous
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    FFS!

    Sorry Doc.
    Are there ever really any proper words to describe such loss…
    May the four winds…

  • icecrmcnkd
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    Cancer sucks

    Sorry Doc.

  • DeadVikes
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    Doc

    So sorry to hear about your loss Doc.

    Our deepest condolences to you and your family.

    Will get Dave's #6 going today.

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    Sorry about your wife. I wish there were magical words to be said that make it better, but alas......

    Deepest sorrow from my family to yours.

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    Our sincerest condolences from our house to yours. All our love to you and your family.
    Doug C.

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    Love has no age, no limit; and no death…….

    Hey, rockers!!!

    Pick of the day: St Louis February 2, 1970

    Back in the distant past of taping, a small soundboard chunk of this circulated, and was cherished. I believe the Cumberland and most of the big jam, including the very fine Dark Star. It brings back fond and funny memories……….

    In my big taping daze, around 1980-1981, a young deadhead I knew in an adjacent town (Lincoln, Massachusetts) hosted a high school radio program where he played lots of live Dead on Sunday mornings. He invited me on and this Star was one of the things I brought with me. In the middle of it, one of his friends—who had just woken up and tuned in----called in and said, “What the hell is THAT?!!!”. LOL, mind blown, that’s how fine that Dark Star is.

    A very interesting example of the Dead’s continual early evolution. It appears that this was a “rediscovered/returned tapes” deal that led to its official release in May 2013, nicely coupled with the Fillmore shows of December 20 and 21, 1969. This is another underrated and underappreciated official release. Dust it off and revisit it…………

    Sweet!!!

    Doc
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    P.S. My wife's heroic struggle with the evil that is cancer is now over. Death borders upon our birth, and our cradle stands in the grave. Death is not extinguishing the light, it is only putting out the lamp because the dawn has come......

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    RE: Philly 83 etc

    A brief synopsis of spring 83 since y’all mentioned it, here and elsewhere discussing 4/16&17/83…
    Thought they started out nicely on 4/9/83
    Better on 4/10, 4/12 I have a very “High” bias. Maybe not quite RJ, but good, cool show and I believe first NFA end/encore fade etc, which was pretty mind blowing at the time in the first row, first time tripping at a show! First H/S/F too! 4/13 ok,but…Crotchfester is a hot mess like many. Another first row romp. Good show but perhaps a tad sloppy occasionally? Of course Dave released the Bob Star (can still picture looking up at Bob and wondering WTH?) so guessing we won’t see that one…4/16 I don’t think I hit at the time, but like BC etc, had good crispy tapes of 4/16 second, and all of 4/17, but someone scarfed my 4/17 second set!
    Bastardo! But like recent comments, their more hot but touches of slop. BITD day when we got em, like BC, we’re quite a enamored, but more recent comparisons have me less enthused. But you can’t dismiss the fun factor. Yes Love The One is all,over, obviously not rehearsed, but it’s such a gas, another hot mess, and for me the highlight was always Phil, he just crushes! (especially with the tape quality BITD on our PA system stereo lol: 2 JBL 15”, 1 12” JBL, and a high/tweeter per side, powerd by three way McIntosh and/or Crown power, my poor rents, man I miss them : (
    So fun shows, but I didn’t think critically/objectively they hung with the top dogs? 4/19 I don’t recall, but marked it ok, but…certainly didn’t hang with 4/20/83, which was perhaps the top dog of the tour? First night of New Haven was good too, but perhaps a step behind Providence. 4/23 & 25 were ok, but…, and yeah, 4/26/83, Dave’s 39 was a good solid show, with a good Healy mix that I really dug. Not sure it was the tour top dog, but arguably one of the top few.
    So recommendations for spring 83 sans Dave 39:
    4/9, 4/10, 4/12, 4/22, and mos def 4/20! Smoke em if ya got em!
    Onward!

    Hey Jim, I hear skiing is a lot easier if you ride the lift up ; ) JK

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76 is such an interesting year for the Dead. So many great shows and yet so many songs not played until 77 or 78.
This show is great and like Jim I like the Lazy Lighting Supplication. Was this the last Cosmic Charlie? Nice St. Stephen NFA.

What's next?

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9/25/76✔️ Nice change up, really need to hit the 76 box more as I’ve barely touched it after the initial run through...
3/28/81✔️Watched this on YouTube last night. Not sure I’ve ever watched the whole thing strait through?
Awesome show, this spring 81 Europe tour has been great! This Shakedown is a top pick, but I still think I liked tge 24 better? Chever way, can’t go wrong! The second set is good, but the first set is a monster!
Second is pretty status quo and Pete is interesting, (I kept waiting for him to trip over JGs guitar wire lol). But he gets old about the time he gets bored...fun, but not ground breaking.
Not sure which show I liked best? Probably overall 3/24, but that first set of 3/28 is hot, and 3/23 is no slouch either...

Suggestions you say?
How bout something off of Dave’s initial wish list he put out:
1/18/78
1/15/79
8/30/80
10/14/80
3/9/81
8/30/83
7/29/88
12/27/89
6/22/91

Or randomly, or to fill in holes:
4/21/84
12/6&7/81
6/24, 25, 28/91
11/8, 23, 24, 25, 29/79
4/6, 7, 8, 12, 14, 19, 21, 78
Or, since 74 was mentioned:
6/30/74
9/14/74
9/20/74
10/16/74
Or
6/9/76 etc.

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I was actually at that one. I was perched up in the balcony, and kept drifting in and out of conciousness, truth be told. I do remember them opening the second set with Shakedown, and people moving out of their seats to dance. It felt things were loosening up a bit. Checking with Deadbase, I notice they followed this with Lost Sailor/Saint of Circumstance, which I didn't know at the time - I guess I drifted off again at this point for a bit !
I didn't dance myself, but I was able to walk out of the Rainbow unassisted at the end.

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I just got a PM from Mr. DHBrewer. After reading Oro's post, DHB driffted off into a catatonic state.. in and out of some fourth dimension.

She asked if we could give him at least a few days to get through the list. I said yes. Hope I didn't overstep my boundries.. onward folks. It's fun here.

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That is a great list. 8/30/80 sounds good to me. The Spectrum.

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yeah, Jim

I looked at that and thought "what kind of challenge is this? you think I can't listen to 3 shows a day, day after day after day?"

staying calm

on that list is 9/14/74 - Olympia Halle, Munich. I've mentioned this a couple of times in '21 though never flat out called for it as a potd. High rec to the Usbourne Matrix of this show - solid '74 show with some excellent glimpses of hall atmosphere from the audience component.

for now I'm going back to the '74 International Amphitheatre cause its been awhile.

however, my near future (this coming week, month, Sunday?) "for the faithful" pick for the POTD regulars here might well be the first east coast show after the '72 Europe tour.

Dillon Stadium 7/16/72. I've "sat" on this for awhile. So there are some tape issues, e.g. the audience source at the beginning is skewed hard left channel and crazy raw. However, said audience source will fascinate some, though it may drive away others. I'm in the fascinated crowd. All instruments present in kick ass 11 volume. unlike anything I've heard from this era. a crazy window into the stadium sound. the Cold Rain and Snow for gods sake. The Playing in the Band is on another level (GOGD needs to hear this one.)

Eventually it settles into a SBD that's a couple generations removed from the master. And its an excellent show. Maybe not on the level of its bastard twin 7/18 Roosevelt Stadium. But did you know that the some of the Allman Bros showed up that night at Dillon? Cause I didn't! this was one of "those" shows - how did I not know this earlier? - given how much I am looking forward to the release of 6/10/73.

onward :)

edit - also yes to 8/30/80. and maybe a look and listen to 8/24/80 Grand Rapids, nice audience pull from a venue that definitely wasn't on the beaten path. 1st set is an excellent one from that era i think.

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Apparently he is doing well.. the drooling and seizures have stopped for now. He enjoys looking out the window and smelling flowers. Next week they plan on starting with one song a day hoping if they ease him back in a little at a time, the PTSD side effects will be minimized.

We are hoping to build up some tolerance so he can begin doing one set shows by early next year.. but the doctors are warning us he may never be able to do three set shows in a single day ever again.

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Our best wishes for DHB of course, but folks should know, this ain’t no party, this ain’t no disco, this ain’t no fooling around....proper safety equipment should be used at all times!
When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro!

LOL, actually, I was just trying to cast a wide net and provide some choices while we wait for the Fox in the Box...
The first list is one Dave put out early on with possible choices. Please see below. As you can see, he’s been chipping away at this list over the years, so I though it might be interesting to check some of this out.
The second bunch (previous post) are just holes I’m trying to fill from specific tours I’m systematically trying to tag.
The others are the 74s that I’ve never heard before...

I just went with 6/9/76 as no one had picked anything and there was work that needed to be done requiring fuel...unfortunately most of that is sanding with the best sander so haven’t been able to really hear lol.

Again, just some suggestions for others to pick from since I’ve been kinda hogging the mic lately lol.

AND, DISCLAIMER, Do Not Listen to more than two shows a day unless you’ve received permission from your medical staff! Failure to do so may cause permanent damage, state of dangerous levels of Euphoria, psychotic episodes, divorce, child services intervention and/or removal of children, loss of income, sanity, and societal connections, loss of hearing, fatigue, diarrhea, dizziness, nausea, headache, and projectile vomiting.

DAVES POSSIBLE LIST
-1/20/68 Eureka DS
-4/21/69 Ark DS
-4/23/69 Ark DS
-1/2/70 Fillmore DS - DaP 30 ✔️
-1/3/70 Fillmore p/o - Dap 30 ✔️
-9/19/70 Fillmore DS
-11/7/71 Harding DS
-1/2/72 Winterland
-8/24/72 Berkeley DS
-2/15/73 Dane DS
-5/26/73 Kezar (BB)
-6/10/73 RFK DS
-6/30/73 Universal Amp. DS
-9/11/73 W&M DS
-5/17/74 PNE - PNW Box ✔️
-5/19/74 Portland - PNW Box ✔️
-6/23/74 Miami DS - DaP 34 ✔️
-7/31/74 Dillon - DaP 2 ✔️
-9/28/75 Lindley - 30Trips ✔️
-6/14/76 Beacon (BB) - 76 Box ✔️
-6/15/76 Beacon (BB) - 76 Box ✔️
-10/3/76 Cobo - 30Trips ✔️
-5/18/77 Fox
-5/26/77 Baltimore
-11/4/77 Colgate - DaP 12 ✔️
-1/18/78 Stockton
-1/22/78 Eugene - DaP 23 ✔️
-1/15/79 Springfield
-8/30/80 Spectrum
-10/14/80 Warfield
-3/9/81 MSG
-5/16/81 Cornell - 30Trips ✔️
-8/30/83 Hult
-10/21/83 Worcester - 30Trips ✔️
-10/9/84 Worcester
-11/2/84 Berkeley
-9/18/87 MSG - 30Trips ✔️
-7/29/88 Laguna
-10/26/89 Miami DS - 30Trips ✔️
-12/27/89 Oakland
-10/27/90 Zenith- 30Trips ✔️
-6/22/91 Soldier Field DSJ
-9/26/91 Boston DS
-3/29/93 Albany HCSS
-9/13/93 Spectrum DS

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This recaptcha shit has gotten ridiculous!
Had to totally delete my post after a half hour of wasting my precious time

Now tge next post will be a bot!

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Rolling...don’t dare say more...

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1/18/78 might get the DHB in today!

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Loving this show so far. Just got into the second set. Recording is good. Would love to hear a polished up version at some point.

We get an Althea, Peggy O, FOTD, nice minglewood, Easy to Love You, not a dud in the bunch.

Love this era.

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Delivers the goods. Love Fall 1980. Circling back to a few shows I missed lately.

I have had crapatcha nuke a few long posts too. Nothing more frustrating..

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Just a thought,,, when i do long comment things I type them into a word file. Copy and paste the text from the file into the comment box. If rat-captcha fucks ya, you don't have to re-type.

Just a thought.

a side - maybe if your post got fucked it's the universe saying it wasn't worth saying! :-)

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Dennis.. that's exactly what I thought. I didn't bother to retype mine the last time this happened and the universe might just be better off.. or not..... I guess it doesn't matter anway.

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the post wasn’t long, or important, just the “discussion” part of POTDWD lol.
It’s the older I get, the more it frosts my ass when stupid shit wastes my precious time...something were running outta.

Going 4/1/91...

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is that we go through all this nonsense and bots get through anyway. I mean who is this Dennis character?
He looks kinda Russian to me?

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Finished the second set and it delivers a great Scarlett Fire, Estimated Eyes, never hear a Black Peter I didn't like.
How about releasing some 1980 shows?
Maybe the next Dave's Picks?
I know we have the Download Series #7 from 9/3/80, another stellar show and part of 9/4/80.

It doesn't look like we will be seeing the box this weekend either 😩

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DV fo sho!
I’m not familiar enough with 1980 to compare, but i thoroughly enjoyed it!
Really need more 79-81 etc..
11/8/79 I didn’t get full immersion, but it seemed fall 79 status quo...
1/18/78 I was really distracted, so DHB hat trick with caveat.

Wow thanks Conekid for recommending 4/1/91. Old school DS, Kicking Jack, Sweet Candyman, Bird Song, AND, it’s gotta Peggy O! Only thing missing was some April Fools shenanigans.

Going 4/21/84 to fill the dead air since no one picked anything.
The day after DaP 35, apologize if we did this back then. Hey, I blame it on GOGD for not being here to keep us senile fucks in line!

EDIT: shipping notice received. ETA Friday night...won’t hold my breath, but at least it’s shipped!

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Check out the mid-first set China>Rider, just part of an EPIC show. From the same time frame as 8/30/80 and the Download Series shows. Too bad more of this is not in the GD Vault. My understanding is all that's available has already been released (as part of DP 21?)

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I'm not in a hurry!

No, I'm a red blooded Merican. I drink coffee, lots, followed by copious amounts of smoke.

And I don't drink no stinkin' vodka like them there commie bastards do.

I drink good English dry gin (Boodles!!)

Accuse me of being a dirty red,,,, the nerve!

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Know it well. My third show and first GA on the rail, first Dew too, and what a beauty eh!
Yass I’ve lamented the fact that we’ll never get this show...

So is a pick, is this what yer spinning?

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I love that accusing you of being Rooshski bothers you more than being a bot! ; )

Oh, and I never brought up yer personally hygiene!

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Shipping notice received. You lucky bastard. Are you sure it is for the box and not a mug? Ha!

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The white fan is within eyesight of the Oroborous front porch.

Two days and 11 pots of coffee from now the Fox Box will be mine.. all mine.. (fade in sinister, evil laugh)

Edit: And I would have gotten away with it too.. if not for those meddling kids....

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You know where I live! Lol

DV, thought maybe it was tge apron, but nope, Fox in the box. Now that doesn’t mean that it will get here ; )

Ok, now rolling 12/6/81 hoping for another DHB HT!

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HF dragged me down the 8/12/79 Red Rocks show on the DaP's thread and I just cannot turn it off. They had me a Pretty Peggy-O. Nice recording of a decent early Brent show.

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If you liked 8-12-79 check out the next night. 8-13-79 has a killer set list and the second set is to tie-dye for. They seemed to drop a Nobody's jam on us quite a bit in Denver. Brent added so much to the band back then.
As for the Devil comments on the STL thread:
You can borrow from the Devil
You can borrow from a friend
The Devil will give you twenty
While your friend's got only ten
Cheers all!

Edit: My first time the system wouldn't let me post. Tried three times over on DaP39 to no avail. Even re-signed in on that thread but no go. No imbeds but maybe some dates or punctuation? The gist of it was the same as this post and a plug for 8-30,31-78. Worlds apart. Different era, different band.

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Okay, 8/12/79 sounds good to me, Red Rocks. Will be hitting it up after I finish up 4/29/72

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Niceeeee, we have a pick, and more suggestions for the “list” sweeettt!

Don’t think we’ll hit the HT today. But I’ve scored 2 DHBs in the last 2 days so who knows...

AND, on to 3/9/81 off of Dave’s list: wow, strong show! Think some folks did this one back always, but I missed it, until now, proper!

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Must have been a great show to be at. Was there a bad show to be at Red Rocks? Recording left me wanting more. 2 dancing bears.
Yes, we did hit up 3/9/81 this year, but as always, repeats are welcomed and encouraged. Love Madison Square Garden.

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Speaking of Red Rocks. How does 7/8/78 grab you all?

I haven't listened to this show in a long time

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Oky dokey Smokey!
Don’t listen to that much, definitely due for a spin.

I’ll hit that as soon as I’m finished with 12/7/81 that I already started...

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Said Bob at the start of the 7-8-78 second set (actually right before Estimated). God that girl was hot! Big girl wearing a virtually see-through loose fitting tank top with Australia on it. She never wore that when we were in line to get food at our dorm at Colo. State! Practically walked right into her on the way into the show. Hope my jaw didn't drop when I looked up at her from a couple rows below. Never forget that smile!
Cheers!

Edit: Turn it up a bit before the second set and you can here the amps buzzing. At least I can on my first tape of this. It was incredibly loud and at times Jerry's guitar was definitely clipping. Must have had it on 11 out of 10. Sampson rocked! I think they were trying to recreate the walls of Jerico thing.
Edit 2: Not audible on my CD. But you can sure here Jerry's volume and emotion on Ship Of Fools! The band was high and ON, as stated in DeadbaseX.

I bet you were glad you made it to this show. And if we can't get you to listen to this one, well, we have problems.

Nice first set, always love a Dire Wolf. The second set is well, you know, legendary. How about the Franklins? Werewolves of London for the encore! What did you think of that ISTShow?

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Bob wore a werewolf mask for the encore. Am I tripping? My friend Dan who has his own Dead cover band (he even has an Alembic guitar now to replicate the Jerry sound) was travelling many years ago with some very high passengers and put on the second set for them as they were not familiar with it (pre legendary, taper era). When they got to the peak of The Other One one of them couldn't handle it. "Turn it off! It's freaking me out man!" It is THAT deliciously wicked. And these were Deadheads. Brief version but so powerful. Like the whole set I guess. Played the first set a couple days ago. I'm in for the second set for Friday Afternoon Club. FAC! Latvala! And cheers all.

Edit: Could have started near the end of Estimated as that is freaking me out right now! Great fake out from Estimated going into Other One. I was sure they were going into Eyes but no, it's after TOO.

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12/7/81✔️
12/9/81✔️
7/8/78 sorta...had it on but didn’t get good listen. Never got tight with this one...from what I heard, that seems like a tactical error? But now that my box is here...

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That is classic! Yes, we have all had those make it stop moments. I would love to see a picture of Bob in that mask.

Oroborous, you have your box, that is fantastic. I am sure you will be busy with it for a while.

Mine of course hasn't even shipped out yet. Same old boring story. Not sure why my orders continue to be at the back of line, must have been something I said at some point. Anyway, enjoy it.

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But I can't figure out how to access it (I'm tech challenged). It was under James R. Anderson photography 5-11-78 Springfield when I googled photo of Bob Weir in wolf mask. It seems the photos credits are blocking the exact spot. Bob is to the left of Donna and Jerry and struggling to look down at his hands. Good luck and cheers!

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I think it might be in the Compendium or DeadBase. Not sure which edition or volume but I'll come back and update once I have the chance to look and verify. Gotta get that baby off the shelf anyway to bone up on my research in anticipation for 30 DOD 2021! :-)

-edit- It's in the Deadhead's Taping Compendium Volume 2. The photo taken is from the show, Springfield 5-11-78 and no specific photo credit is given, only the photo 'contributer'.

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Been here in Co all week waiting for the big box, but all I got was poison ivy and this thing from Colorado's finest called a Peace Order. Sounds groovy at first, but let me tell you there is nothing peaceful or hippie about it.

I would have gotten away with it too.. if it weren't for you meddling kids, I mean cops. Oh, well, back to MD. How does that song go, don't go back to rockville? Nevermind.. not a big REM fan.

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One of my top 3 favorite ‘76 shows.

10-9-76
6-14-76
6-29-76

Has a lot to do with the fact that I had them on pretty good sounding cassette in the 90’s and was able to burn them into my synapses.
Still waiting for 6/29 to get Normanized…..

So, think I’ll do Day On The Green this weekend while I wait for my STL Box, which is now in possession of USPS.

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Check out 10-15 Shrine if you are not aware of that show yet. If that final reel ever were to show up magically, it would open up lots of Eyes!

-edit- 6-29-76 encore, one of those versions with the Jerry-ism: 'Red and White, U.S. Blues!', sung with gusto... :-)

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I have it Wilfred, but haven’t heard it enough, or lately, to remember it at this point.
I’ll put it on the to do list.

With winter approaching I’ll be spending more time indoors and I plan to put a dent into the TB’s of torrents I have but haven’t listened to yet. Should be some gems in there, including some Fall 76’s I haven’t heard before.

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In reply to by icecrmcnkd

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It’s more than a sandwich

It’s a Help>Slip>Franklin’s Dagwood Sandwich.

It’s worthy of a Plangent upgrade.

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In reply to by icecrmcnkd

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Both of these shows are in normal rotation at my house. I think the sound quality on both of these shows is pretty damn good. Just my opinion.

Still no box at my house. Hope you all are enjoying it.
Do you have your box yet Jim?

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No box for me.. hopefully this week.

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...currently near Bong.