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    Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

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  • icecrmcnkd
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    “Hey Rocky, watch me levitate Garcia”

    Per your suggestions, doing the 9-18-87 anniversary.

    I suspect that everything in the Vault that sounds good will get digitized, and a lot has probably been done already since the tapes are degrading and the job needs to get completed. Also, storing digital copies at various geographic locations can be an insurance policy against things like the Universal Music warehouse fire, California Earthquake(s), etc. Futhurmore, I assume that when Dave is perusing potential releases he listens to a digital copy, not a cassette copy, then he picks a few shows to discuss at the next business meeting.

    Some will get the Full Norman.
    Some will even get Plangentized.
    Everything that gets digitized will be available for download and/or streaming in the future, we may just not be alive to spend the money on such.
    The Vault will become the Catalog.
    We are financing the digitization of the Vault by buying the new releases.
    So bust out Dennis’ wife’s credit card and keep buying.
    (Well, at least Dennis can bust out the credit card)

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    Yeah 1stshow I hadn’t planned to do it.I mean I’ve been meaning to, but, like many things nowadays, always low on roundtoits ; ). Reminds me of this guy we picked up on Ziggy Marley tour doing merch back in 96 I believe.
    Flew into DC, met PK from Jersey, counted stuff in at the 9:30 club, then just tried to keep up with ole PK. Out on town all night, then immediately had to drive to next show etc…
    Dude knows everyone everywhere and can get you ANYTHING you need in almost any city!
    Damn Rastas were asking him to get them weed everywhere as he had better connections lol
    Been a road dog forever! Anywho, somewhere in the mayhem we ran into a buddy of his from Virginia who decided one show wasn’t enough fun. He only ment to go to the next one, and every night kept saying “ok, this is the last one, then I have to get back”…we’ll this went on for over a week until finally, after Panama beach show we literally had to make him get on a bus and go home lol. Guy was helpful and we all had big fun, but the poor bastard was wearing the same clothes etc and didn’t have anything with him, totally spontaneous trip. Think after a couple daze we bought him some fresh underwear and gave him a couple tour shirts to change into lol.
    So that’s kinda how I started E72 this time, ok, I’ll do one more. Finally, though this isn’t a good time, time wise etc, figured, fug it, buy the ticket, take the ride! So, always more fun with a tour buddy!

    Yeah, I’m with you on 5/3. It is a damn good show, but I didn’t get as blown away as some…
    But I’ll need to reacquaint with it…top five, good luck. I can’t do it. Their all so good, sure I like some perhaps more, but their just different enough I can’t pick a top dog…
    Yeah, what a surprise, the French were the most vocal lol

    Yeah DV, im worried about the VIKS, Bills too, though they seemed like their old selves again this week. But like the Viks, ya never know what’s next lol. Rootin for underdog Lions, and Falcons, though I really like this kid Field with Da Bears…
    I’ll have to try and find that Dave article. He always says that and he doesn’t do it all the time, and they have mostly stayed clear of anniversaries, but he has been dipping liberally from that early possibilities list he mentioned back at the start of DaP.

    Those all sound familiar Jim, but I’m on a job site so can’t look up in my Db.
    Tempting all, but I’m on tour in Europe with ole 1stshow and don’t like to listen to other Dead until the trip is over…
    1970 is perhaps last frontier I haven’t really got the toe wet yet. Need another roundtoit!

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    Hey OB, not off to a good start here in MN, but actually not that surprised. Go Bills!

    There is an interesting article in Relix with Dave L. that was posted last week I believe. Check it out.
    Dave claims there is no list and they don't generally release shows or box sets based on anniversaries. This year's box was just a coincidence. So, what does that mean for 2024? Not sure. Would love to see that October 74 Winterland box released. Who wouldn't?
    I thought the 74 Winterland shows were recorded by Bill Wolf as part of the Movie production agreement with United Artists. I believe everything is there and based on the material from the 2005 soundtrack, and bonus material, it is fantastic.

    Madison Square Garden 87. Those are some good shows Jim. Might have to join you on 9/18 as I have that 30 Trips show handy.

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    Huge and another damn near perfect show with 3 Other Ones! The crowd seems more engaged and yelling a bit more than some of the more polite audiences. And interestingly they didn't understand that the show wasn't over at set break. Read attendee Bob Welle's review in DeadbaseX and his cool viewpoint of having been cruising around EU and just luckily caught this one, wondering who are these new people on stage.
    After all these good ones in a row it's hard to see the almost Barton Hall fervor over this one though. I'm having a tough time doing a top 5 of the first 11 shows they are all so good but this one is certainly in there. Onward indeedy! Didn't expect anyone to join in my insanity to do them all so good on ya' Oro. Had to do it once in a lifetime, lol.
    Cheers

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    I was talking about a mini box of Feb '74 before they released 2/24 (and now 2/23), but I like the way you think.

    I always assumed, probably incorrectly, that there were problems with the recordings of much of the October 74 run. I know Owsley was very vocal that they had excessive bleeding from mic to mic, etc.

    As for something to listen to today.. not that I am strictly a Today in GD History person but 9/18/70, 9/18/74 and 9/18/87 were all excellent shows. 9/16/87 was surprisingly good for the period also.

    That's all I have for now.

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    Ok, back to Europe

    Hit 5/7, 5/10, and 5/11 this WE. Of course I’ve forgotten the finer points and things I wanted to say, but I’ve not wanted to be overly analytical, or get distracted with notes, and instead, just get right, relax, and try to enjoy them. (Which has not been hard ; )
    5/7 is just too much! It’s not always the most precise or perfect of the tour, but that’s because it’s a freight train on steroids!
    I’ve always preferred full steam ahead Dead even when that leads to more worts, not that this one has many, perhaps just a few more noticeable than some of the more reserved, precise (hey, they were trying to make an album) shows.
    Actually, I think the album factor is one reason this tour is so good. They’re in a place where they’re ontop of their game and can let it rip, but keeping it just enough under raps to keep the consistency high for recording purposes.
    Win win, but 5/7 seems more about the live gig, the large miserable crowd that seems to really appreciate the effort etc, more than playing it straight for the tape machine?
    Choo Choo, all aboard! what a beast! Garcia starts out in 5th gear and doesn’t let up for almost 4 hours!
    Dark Star AND an Other One! Full on grease fest with six beauties, including a nice LL that fits the format better than going on too long, and a nice unusual Segway into GDTRFB. Clearly they were enjoying themselves in spite of the conditions? They joke about blowing the big ones, but not this time bubba!
    I’ve had this one so have heard it several times, but it was a real treat to sit outside in a warm but not super hot day and just groove on this one!
    Yesterday I hit 5/10 for the first time and unfortunately didn’t get quite the best listen, at least to the later parts.
    But I did enjoy it, even if it was perhaps a little more laid back than 5/7 etc. Hey they all can’t be rocket ships lol.
    The word that kept coming to me was Smooth…this show seemed smooth. They’re gelling as a unit so well by now, and the consistency is so good. Sure there’s a miscue or clam every once in awhile, (I dare you to find a show that there isn’t ; ) but the overall tightness, energy, musicianship is truly better or on par with any tour they ever did!
    Of course there’s the sweet He’s Gone they finally got right, and why it’s the one! Another Sing me as they’ve worked that one in the repertoire nicely. And if I remember correctly, this had another of those unusual Other Ones, kinda jazzy perhaps and similar to 4/16? Unfortunately this one’s a blur for various reasons including hitting 5/11 afterwards. I’ll definitely want to rehit this, 5/3, and the Wembleys after the tour…but for now I want to go in order…
    Ok, 5/11, this one for whatever reason has always been perhaps my favorite?
    Not saying it’s the best show of the tour, just for whatever reasons perhaps my favorite?
    Certainly the set list is part of it: Nice Playing if not huge opener, plenty o grease, including a cool and final Caution, with final WHO Do You Love tease, Nice Truckin ender to mix it up, and a very cool, perhaps unusual Dark Star!
    Maybe it’s just because I think this might have been the first ala cart show I bought when I hand to the head realized what I was missing not having these Dark Stars? (Now realizing same about the cool spacey TOO’s)
    Other One can get real repetitive but these ones are often very diverse and different! The weirder the better I say!
    Whatever the reasons, this show, even after taking the tour plunge, still resonates very strong for me? Hey, I even think the cover art might be my fav? Ok, maybe I’ll hit it again streaming while working, before moving onto 5/13 and 5/16, both I’ve never heard yet, so hoping I’ll get to spend some extra time with em during the week…
    ONWARD! Ok, who stole my Heineken Dark?

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    That’s all I ment.
    Everyone’s made good points, and there’s no easy answer.
    I was going for a conversation starter more than just to editorialize.
    Like most things, no easy answers.
    It’s just now that I’m all addicted to this collecting nonsense, I need as many RJ shows as they’ll give us, and I’m afraid things are going to start slowing down, and eventually it won’t be worth it to them, and so many great shows will never get fixed up and released. And don’t you worry 1stshow ole buddy, there’s still plenty of RJ shows in the vault.
    As a rabid nut trying to tag as many of em as I can before I croak, I’m here to tell ya there’s plenty of gold left in them there hills! Yes many are cassette, but the gang has been getting better and better every year at fixing em up!
    And, there’s still lots of DATs and still a decent amount of killer multitracks, all just rotting in the vault!

    I totally get what yer saying, but think of it this way: suppose the summer 78 box was never released and only a couple others from that year. If they came out and said “this is your one chance to get the 20 best of 78”, including those shows in the July box, would you not find some way to get it? For sure, not everyone is going to want all of em, but I think you’d be able to scrape up at least 10k folks who would want at least one or 2?
    Really they should be digitizing them all, or at least the top 20 or 30 from each year that haven’t been released, and have a system where they announce a certain number, or block at a time, and do pre orders, to have inventory control.
    Some shows might sell big, some not so much. Perhaps have a rule that shows that don’t meet a certain threshold won’t get released?
    I guess the solution would involve somehow having a cost effective way to prep them, but pre order so you don’t always have to have such big sales numbers for every show? Perhaps DL like you say, but that hasn’t worked so well, so far anyway…
    Again, no easy answers, and I totally understand other pov. I just would hate to see so much good music not get the treatment it deserves. And yeah, the archive is awesome, but there’s nothing like getting a great show that’s been fully fixed/Normaned!

    Hey DV, where ya been hiding? Good to see ya, and sorry, I won’t mention you know who. It has got to be really tough being a fan. It’d be one thing if they just stunk, but they have potential, if only they could stop beating themselves.
    A well, it’s early still…

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    Would love to see more shows released. My preference is still CDs.
    It would be interesting to know what the terms of the contract are with Rhino? Are they able to release as much as they want or are there limits?
    Do they even have the ability to release more per year then they currently are? Is Jeffrey Norman able to mix and master much more than he is now. He might need help. Maybe you could assist OB?

    There are some shows they already mixed and mastered that could be released on CD. For example, the two shows from the first Road Trips that they released as digital downloads, 11/5 and 11/6 1979. Also, the shows from the download series.
    Would also be interested in more video. Why not release the shows from the MUATM. They did this with the 91 show in the Giants stadium box, but would love to see the others released at some point. The 91 Chicago show was really good.

    Okay, seems others are talking about 1988 for #48. We will see next month.

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    I'm a dinosaur as Oro describes it and know zero about streaming and how younger folks get their music, movies, and TV but I'm guessing the Dinos are the ones buying hard copy CDs. My question is, if the '80s and '90s scene was populated by more younger concertgoers in huge stadiums in numbers way beyond the earlier shows shouldn't there be a demand for those shows in a format they like? I'd bet lots of folks will buy a show they attended. Mickey's model may fit that some day. That said, I'm ignoring the fact that some earlier shows had attendance in the 100,000+ range (Englishtown?) but there were just a few of those. I know Dave said that the last increase to 25,000 copies per release would be the last increase and maybe that's the limit for profitability for hard copy. I'm guessing the download option would be more profitable regardless of sales numbers (if they could ever get the damn things to work!) as all you need is a bank of servers and a few tech savvy people to run it. Large box offerings could be done as a pick and choose your favorite with quantity discounts for more shows. I know I won't be buying twenty shows from individual years I don't like as much and there is likely some truth in the theory that a good portion of "the good stuff" has already been released. Seems like, as with many things, tech is going to have to save us in this dilemma. Affordability is key either way. I can't afford $500 boxes even if I like the offering. It's as simple as that. So Mickey, let's get digitizing! Us Dinos will just have to figure out how to download and stream.
    Cheers
    Oh, and the price of the downloads needs to come down. Currently makes no sense if the price is almost the same just without the shipping. No incentive to be green.

  • Oroborous
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    Y’all are missing the point…

    I’m not talking about preferences, if I was, I’d be down with Conekids idea.
    I’m talking about the reality of only a somewhat limited number of boxes getting released.
    Their not going to do this forever!!!
    For example, say they only releases 8 or 10 more years at one box a year.
    With 3 show mini boxes that’s only 30 more shows. Plus say 40 more Dave’s. (4x10).
    There’s still way more than 70 great shows in that vault…
    My plan,
    25 for primal 67-70
    15 for 71
    20 for 72
    20 for 73 (at least!
    ? 74 might just be mostly scraps
    20? for 76? Maybe
    77 is already over represented so he can spit the last few out on DaP
    20 for 78
    20 for 79 and 80
    20 for 81 & 82
    20 for 83 & 84
    20 for 85 & 86
    20 for 87 & 88
    20 for 89 including fall tour (alpine should be a stand alone
    90 not sure you’d need to do 20 as it’s already fairly represented?
    20 for 91 & 92
    20 for 93-95
    These plus DaP and special separates and one might say we’ve received most of the best!
    Take pre orders plus run an extra 10% so your not stuck with inventory but have a few for Johnny come latelies…
    You could still make them “limited”…
    Release 2 a year, everybody wins cept maybe the finicky heads who probably won’t buy much more anyway…

    Voila, all hardcore heads gets represented,

    And remember when Mickey made his bold pronouncement about making all shows available (about the same time he said Phil must have got the liver of a jerk) .
    But I’m sure things won’t change, sales eventually will make cost prohibitive and the vault will go to waste, but hey at least we will have most of 77…and four versions of October 74…
    Think about the cruel reality of only 3 to 5 shows a year for only 8 more years….the horror!
    Tic toc…

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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.
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76 is such an interesting year for the Dead. So many great shows and yet so many songs not played until 77 or 78.
This show is great and like Jim I like the Lazy Lighting Supplication. Was this the last Cosmic Charlie? Nice St. Stephen NFA.

What's next?

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9/25/76✔️ Nice change up, really need to hit the 76 box more as I’ve barely touched it after the initial run through...
3/28/81✔️Watched this on YouTube last night. Not sure I’ve ever watched the whole thing strait through?
Awesome show, this spring 81 Europe tour has been great! This Shakedown is a top pick, but I still think I liked tge 24 better? Chever way, can’t go wrong! The second set is good, but the first set is a monster!
Second is pretty status quo and Pete is interesting, (I kept waiting for him to trip over JGs guitar wire lol). But he gets old about the time he gets bored...fun, but not ground breaking.
Not sure which show I liked best? Probably overall 3/24, but that first set of 3/28 is hot, and 3/23 is no slouch either...

Suggestions you say?
How bout something off of Dave’s initial wish list he put out:
1/18/78
1/15/79
8/30/80
10/14/80
3/9/81
8/30/83
7/29/88
12/27/89
6/22/91

Or randomly, or to fill in holes:
4/21/84
12/6&7/81
6/24, 25, 28/91
11/8, 23, 24, 25, 29/79
4/6, 7, 8, 12, 14, 19, 21, 78
Or, since 74 was mentioned:
6/30/74
9/14/74
9/20/74
10/16/74
Or
6/9/76 etc.

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I was actually at that one. I was perched up in the balcony, and kept drifting in and out of conciousness, truth be told. I do remember them opening the second set with Shakedown, and people moving out of their seats to dance. It felt things were loosening up a bit. Checking with Deadbase, I notice they followed this with Lost Sailor/Saint of Circumstance, which I didn't know at the time - I guess I drifted off again at this point for a bit !
I didn't dance myself, but I was able to walk out of the Rainbow unassisted at the end.

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I just got a PM from Mr. DHBrewer. After reading Oro's post, DHB driffted off into a catatonic state.. in and out of some fourth dimension.

She asked if we could give him at least a few days to get through the list. I said yes. Hope I didn't overstep my boundries.. onward folks. It's fun here.

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That is a great list. 8/30/80 sounds good to me. The Spectrum.

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yeah, Jim

I looked at that and thought "what kind of challenge is this? you think I can't listen to 3 shows a day, day after day after day?"

staying calm

on that list is 9/14/74 - Olympia Halle, Munich. I've mentioned this a couple of times in '21 though never flat out called for it as a potd. High rec to the Usbourne Matrix of this show - solid '74 show with some excellent glimpses of hall atmosphere from the audience component.

for now I'm going back to the '74 International Amphitheatre cause its been awhile.

however, my near future (this coming week, month, Sunday?) "for the faithful" pick for the POTD regulars here might well be the first east coast show after the '72 Europe tour.

Dillon Stadium 7/16/72. I've "sat" on this for awhile. So there are some tape issues, e.g. the audience source at the beginning is skewed hard left channel and crazy raw. However, said audience source will fascinate some, though it may drive away others. I'm in the fascinated crowd. All instruments present in kick ass 11 volume. unlike anything I've heard from this era. a crazy window into the stadium sound. the Cold Rain and Snow for gods sake. The Playing in the Band is on another level (GOGD needs to hear this one.)

Eventually it settles into a SBD that's a couple generations removed from the master. And its an excellent show. Maybe not on the level of its bastard twin 7/18 Roosevelt Stadium. But did you know that the some of the Allman Bros showed up that night at Dillon? Cause I didn't! this was one of "those" shows - how did I not know this earlier? - given how much I am looking forward to the release of 6/10/73.

onward :)

edit - also yes to 8/30/80. and maybe a look and listen to 8/24/80 Grand Rapids, nice audience pull from a venue that definitely wasn't on the beaten path. 1st set is an excellent one from that era i think.

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Apparently he is doing well.. the drooling and seizures have stopped for now. He enjoys looking out the window and smelling flowers. Next week they plan on starting with one song a day hoping if they ease him back in a little at a time, the PTSD side effects will be minimized.

We are hoping to build up some tolerance so he can begin doing one set shows by early next year.. but the doctors are warning us he may never be able to do three set shows in a single day ever again.

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Our best wishes for DHB of course, but folks should know, this ain’t no party, this ain’t no disco, this ain’t no fooling around....proper safety equipment should be used at all times!
When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro!

LOL, actually, I was just trying to cast a wide net and provide some choices while we wait for the Fox in the Box...
The first list is one Dave put out early on with possible choices. Please see below. As you can see, he’s been chipping away at this list over the years, so I though it might be interesting to check some of this out.
The second bunch (previous post) are just holes I’m trying to fill from specific tours I’m systematically trying to tag.
The others are the 74s that I’ve never heard before...

I just went with 6/9/76 as no one had picked anything and there was work that needed to be done requiring fuel...unfortunately most of that is sanding with the best sander so haven’t been able to really hear lol.

Again, just some suggestions for others to pick from since I’ve been kinda hogging the mic lately lol.

AND, DISCLAIMER, Do Not Listen to more than two shows a day unless you’ve received permission from your medical staff! Failure to do so may cause permanent damage, state of dangerous levels of Euphoria, psychotic episodes, divorce, child services intervention and/or removal of children, loss of income, sanity, and societal connections, loss of hearing, fatigue, diarrhea, dizziness, nausea, headache, and projectile vomiting.

DAVES POSSIBLE LIST
-1/20/68 Eureka DS
-4/21/69 Ark DS
-4/23/69 Ark DS
-1/2/70 Fillmore DS - DaP 30 ✔️
-1/3/70 Fillmore p/o - Dap 30 ✔️
-9/19/70 Fillmore DS
-11/7/71 Harding DS
-1/2/72 Winterland
-8/24/72 Berkeley DS
-2/15/73 Dane DS
-5/26/73 Kezar (BB)
-6/10/73 RFK DS
-6/30/73 Universal Amp. DS
-9/11/73 W&M DS
-5/17/74 PNE - PNW Box ✔️
-5/19/74 Portland - PNW Box ✔️
-6/23/74 Miami DS - DaP 34 ✔️
-7/31/74 Dillon - DaP 2 ✔️
-9/28/75 Lindley - 30Trips ✔️
-6/14/76 Beacon (BB) - 76 Box ✔️
-6/15/76 Beacon (BB) - 76 Box ✔️
-10/3/76 Cobo - 30Trips ✔️
-5/18/77 Fox
-5/26/77 Baltimore
-11/4/77 Colgate - DaP 12 ✔️
-1/18/78 Stockton
-1/22/78 Eugene - DaP 23 ✔️
-1/15/79 Springfield
-8/30/80 Spectrum
-10/14/80 Warfield
-3/9/81 MSG
-5/16/81 Cornell - 30Trips ✔️
-8/30/83 Hult
-10/21/83 Worcester - 30Trips ✔️
-10/9/84 Worcester
-11/2/84 Berkeley
-9/18/87 MSG - 30Trips ✔️
-7/29/88 Laguna
-10/26/89 Miami DS - 30Trips ✔️
-12/27/89 Oakland
-10/27/90 Zenith- 30Trips ✔️
-6/22/91 Soldier Field DSJ
-9/26/91 Boston DS
-3/29/93 Albany HCSS
-9/13/93 Spectrum DS

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This recaptcha shit has gotten ridiculous!
Had to totally delete my post after a half hour of wasting my precious time

Now tge next post will be a bot!

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Rolling...don’t dare say more...

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1/18/78 might get the DHB in today!

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Loving this show so far. Just got into the second set. Recording is good. Would love to hear a polished up version at some point.

We get an Althea, Peggy O, FOTD, nice minglewood, Easy to Love You, not a dud in the bunch.

Love this era.

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Delivers the goods. Love Fall 1980. Circling back to a few shows I missed lately.

I have had crapatcha nuke a few long posts too. Nothing more frustrating..

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Just a thought,,, when i do long comment things I type them into a word file. Copy and paste the text from the file into the comment box. If rat-captcha fucks ya, you don't have to re-type.

Just a thought.

a side - maybe if your post got fucked it's the universe saying it wasn't worth saying! :-)

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Dennis.. that's exactly what I thought. I didn't bother to retype mine the last time this happened and the universe might just be better off.. or not..... I guess it doesn't matter anway.

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the post wasn’t long, or important, just the “discussion” part of POTDWD lol.
It’s the older I get, the more it frosts my ass when stupid shit wastes my precious time...something were running outta.

Going 4/1/91...

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is that we go through all this nonsense and bots get through anyway. I mean who is this Dennis character?
He looks kinda Russian to me?

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Finished the second set and it delivers a great Scarlett Fire, Estimated Eyes, never hear a Black Peter I didn't like.
How about releasing some 1980 shows?
Maybe the next Dave's Picks?
I know we have the Download Series #7 from 9/3/80, another stellar show and part of 9/4/80.

It doesn't look like we will be seeing the box this weekend either 😩

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DV fo sho!
I’m not familiar enough with 1980 to compare, but i thoroughly enjoyed it!
Really need more 79-81 etc..
11/8/79 I didn’t get full immersion, but it seemed fall 79 status quo...
1/18/78 I was really distracted, so DHB hat trick with caveat.

Wow thanks Conekid for recommending 4/1/91. Old school DS, Kicking Jack, Sweet Candyman, Bird Song, AND, it’s gotta Peggy O! Only thing missing was some April Fools shenanigans.

Going 4/21/84 to fill the dead air since no one picked anything.
The day after DaP 35, apologize if we did this back then. Hey, I blame it on GOGD for not being here to keep us senile fucks in line!

EDIT: shipping notice received. ETA Friday night...won’t hold my breath, but at least it’s shipped!

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Check out the mid-first set China>Rider, just part of an EPIC show. From the same time frame as 8/30/80 and the Download Series shows. Too bad more of this is not in the GD Vault. My understanding is all that's available has already been released (as part of DP 21?)

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I'm not in a hurry!

No, I'm a red blooded Merican. I drink coffee, lots, followed by copious amounts of smoke.

And I don't drink no stinkin' vodka like them there commie bastards do.

I drink good English dry gin (Boodles!!)

Accuse me of being a dirty red,,,, the nerve!

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Know it well. My third show and first GA on the rail, first Dew too, and what a beauty eh!
Yass I’ve lamented the fact that we’ll never get this show...

So is a pick, is this what yer spinning?

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I love that accusing you of being Rooshski bothers you more than being a bot! ; )

Oh, and I never brought up yer personally hygiene!

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Shipping notice received. You lucky bastard. Are you sure it is for the box and not a mug? Ha!

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The white fan is within eyesight of the Oroborous front porch.

Two days and 11 pots of coffee from now the Fox Box will be mine.. all mine.. (fade in sinister, evil laugh)

Edit: And I would have gotten away with it too.. if not for those meddling kids....

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You know where I live! Lol

DV, thought maybe it was tge apron, but nope, Fox in the box. Now that doesn’t mean that it will get here ; )

Ok, now rolling 12/6/81 hoping for another DHB HT!

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HF dragged me down the 8/12/79 Red Rocks show on the DaP's thread and I just cannot turn it off. They had me a Pretty Peggy-O. Nice recording of a decent early Brent show.

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If you liked 8-12-79 check out the next night. 8-13-79 has a killer set list and the second set is to tie-dye for. They seemed to drop a Nobody's jam on us quite a bit in Denver. Brent added so much to the band back then.
As for the Devil comments on the STL thread:
You can borrow from the Devil
You can borrow from a friend
The Devil will give you twenty
While your friend's got only ten
Cheers all!

Edit: My first time the system wouldn't let me post. Tried three times over on DaP39 to no avail. Even re-signed in on that thread but no go. No imbeds but maybe some dates or punctuation? The gist of it was the same as this post and a plug for 8-30,31-78. Worlds apart. Different era, different band.

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Okay, 8/12/79 sounds good to me, Red Rocks. Will be hitting it up after I finish up 4/29/72

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Niceeeee, we have a pick, and more suggestions for the “list” sweeettt!

Don’t think we’ll hit the HT today. But I’ve scored 2 DHBs in the last 2 days so who knows...

AND, on to 3/9/81 off of Dave’s list: wow, strong show! Think some folks did this one back always, but I missed it, until now, proper!

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Must have been a great show to be at. Was there a bad show to be at Red Rocks? Recording left me wanting more. 2 dancing bears.
Yes, we did hit up 3/9/81 this year, but as always, repeats are welcomed and encouraged. Love Madison Square Garden.

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Speaking of Red Rocks. How does 7/8/78 grab you all?

I haven't listened to this show in a long time

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Oky dokey Smokey!
Don’t listen to that much, definitely due for a spin.

I’ll hit that as soon as I’m finished with 12/7/81 that I already started...

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Said Bob at the start of the 7-8-78 second set (actually right before Estimated). God that girl was hot! Big girl wearing a virtually see-through loose fitting tank top with Australia on it. She never wore that when we were in line to get food at our dorm at Colo. State! Practically walked right into her on the way into the show. Hope my jaw didn't drop when I looked up at her from a couple rows below. Never forget that smile!
Cheers!

Edit: Turn it up a bit before the second set and you can here the amps buzzing. At least I can on my first tape of this. It was incredibly loud and at times Jerry's guitar was definitely clipping. Must have had it on 11 out of 10. Sampson rocked! I think they were trying to recreate the walls of Jerico thing.
Edit 2: Not audible on my CD. But you can sure here Jerry's volume and emotion on Ship Of Fools! The band was high and ON, as stated in DeadbaseX.

I bet you were glad you made it to this show. And if we can't get you to listen to this one, well, we have problems.

Nice first set, always love a Dire Wolf. The second set is well, you know, legendary. How about the Franklins? Werewolves of London for the encore! What did you think of that ISTShow?

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Bob wore a werewolf mask for the encore. Am I tripping? My friend Dan who has his own Dead cover band (he even has an Alembic guitar now to replicate the Jerry sound) was travelling many years ago with some very high passengers and put on the second set for them as they were not familiar with it (pre legendary, taper era). When they got to the peak of The Other One one of them couldn't handle it. "Turn it off! It's freaking me out man!" It is THAT deliciously wicked. And these were Deadheads. Brief version but so powerful. Like the whole set I guess. Played the first set a couple days ago. I'm in for the second set for Friday Afternoon Club. FAC! Latvala! And cheers all.

Edit: Could have started near the end of Estimated as that is freaking me out right now! Great fake out from Estimated going into Other One. I was sure they were going into Eyes but no, it's after TOO.

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12/7/81✔️
12/9/81✔️
7/8/78 sorta...had it on but didn’t get good listen. Never got tight with this one...from what I heard, that seems like a tactical error? But now that my box is here...

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That is classic! Yes, we have all had those make it stop moments. I would love to see a picture of Bob in that mask.

Oroborous, you have your box, that is fantastic. I am sure you will be busy with it for a while.

Mine of course hasn't even shipped out yet. Same old boring story. Not sure why my orders continue to be at the back of line, must have been something I said at some point. Anyway, enjoy it.

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But I can't figure out how to access it (I'm tech challenged). It was under James R. Anderson photography 5-11-78 Springfield when I googled photo of Bob Weir in wolf mask. It seems the photos credits are blocking the exact spot. Bob is to the left of Donna and Jerry and struggling to look down at his hands. Good luck and cheers!

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I think it might be in the Compendium or DeadBase. Not sure which edition or volume but I'll come back and update once I have the chance to look and verify. Gotta get that baby off the shelf anyway to bone up on my research in anticipation for 30 DOD 2021! :-)

-edit- It's in the Deadhead's Taping Compendium Volume 2. The photo taken is from the show, Springfield 5-11-78 and no specific photo credit is given, only the photo 'contributer'.

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Been here in Co all week waiting for the big box, but all I got was poison ivy and this thing from Colorado's finest called a Peace Order. Sounds groovy at first, but let me tell you there is nothing peaceful or hippie about it.

I would have gotten away with it too.. if it weren't for you meddling kids, I mean cops. Oh, well, back to MD. How does that song go, don't go back to rockville? Nevermind.. not a big REM fan.

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One of my top 3 favorite ‘76 shows.

10-9-76
6-14-76
6-29-76

Has a lot to do with the fact that I had them on pretty good sounding cassette in the 90’s and was able to burn them into my synapses.
Still waiting for 6/29 to get Normanized…..

So, think I’ll do Day On The Green this weekend while I wait for my STL Box, which is now in possession of USPS.

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Check out 10-15 Shrine if you are not aware of that show yet. If that final reel ever were to show up magically, it would open up lots of Eyes!

-edit- 6-29-76 encore, one of those versions with the Jerry-ism: 'Red and White, U.S. Blues!', sung with gusto... :-)

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I have it Wilfred, but haven’t heard it enough, or lately, to remember it at this point.
I’ll put it on the to do list.

With winter approaching I’ll be spending more time indoors and I plan to put a dent into the TB’s of torrents I have but haven’t listened to yet. Should be some gems in there, including some Fall 76’s I haven’t heard before.

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It’s more than a sandwich

It’s a Help>Slip>Franklin’s Dagwood Sandwich.

It’s worthy of a Plangent upgrade.

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Both of these shows are in normal rotation at my house. I think the sound quality on both of these shows is pretty damn good. Just my opinion.

Still no box at my house. Hope you all are enjoying it.
Do you have your box yet Jim?

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No box for me.. hopefully this week.

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...currently near Bong.