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    7 Previously Unreleased Complete Shows On 20 Discs
    Fox Theatre, St. Louis, MO 12/09/71
    Fox Theatre, St. Louis, MO 12/10/71
    Fox Theatre, St. Louis, MO 10/17/72
    Fox Theatre, St. Louis, MO 10/18/72
    Fox Theatre, St. Louis, MO 10/19/72
    Kiel Auditorium, St. Louis, MO 10/29/73
    Kiel Auditorium, St. Louis, MO 10/30/73
    Sourced from tapes recorded by Rex Jackson, Owsley "Bear" Stanley, and Kidd Candelario
    Mastered in HDCD by Jeffrey Norman
    Restoration and Speed Correction by Plangent Processes
     
    Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 13,000

    Steamboats and BBQ, ice cream cones and Mardi Gras - are you ready to laissez les bons temps rouler with the "gateway" to the Grateful Dead? Meet us, won't you, in St. Louis for seven complete and previously unreleased Dead concerts that capture the heart of the band's affinity for the River City.
     
    LISTEN TO THE RIVER: ST. LOUIS ’71 ’72 ’73 is a 20CD set featuring five shows from the Fox Theatre - December 9 and 10, 1971; October 17-19, 1972; and two from the Kiel Auditorium - October 29 and 30, 1973. 
     
    The seven shows in the collection span slightly less than two years, but they represent some of the best shows the Grateful Dead played during some of its peak tours. The music tells the story of a band evolving, changing from one sound to another seamlessly, precipitated – in large part – by significant personnel changes in the Dead’s lineup.
     
    The two 1971 shows feature the original Grateful Dead lineup plus newcomer Keith Godchaux on piano. This version of the band would hold together for the next six months as the Dead embarked upon its Europe ’72 tour. By the time the Dead returned to the Fox Theatre less than a year later, they were without Pigpen, who’d played his final show with the Dead at the Hollywood Bowl on June 17, 1972. A year after the exceptional Fox 1972 shows, the Dead came back to St. Louis, but played the much larger Kiel Auditorium, touring behind the release of WAKE OF THE FLOOD, which came out just two weeks before.
     
    All told, the band played 60 different songs during these shows highlighted by blazing romps through “Beat It On Down The Line” and “One More Saturday Night” and wistful takes on “Row Jimmy” and “Brokedown Palace” (whose lyrics give the collection its name). Meanwhile, the copious jamming ebbed and flowed like the mighty Mississippi River on multiple voyages through “The Other One” and “Dark Star.” Naturally, the band paid tribute to one of its favorite rock and rollers and one of St. Louis’ biggest stars by playing Chuck Berry songs at every show in the collection, including Pigpen galloping through “Run Rudolph Run.”  
     
    Each show has been restored and speed corrected using Plangent Processes with mastering by Jeffrey Norman. The collection comes in a slipcase with artwork by Liane Plant and features an 84-page hardbound book as well as other Dead surprises. To set the stage for the music, the liner notes provide several essays about the shows, including one by Sam Cutler, the band’s tour manager during that era, and another by Grateful Dead scholar Nicholas G. Meriwether, among others. 
     
    Due October 1st, LISTEN TO THE RIVER: ST. LOUIS ’71 ’72 ’73, is limited to 13,000 individually numbered copies and available exclusively from Dead.net.

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  • KeithFan2112
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    I'm listening to this off the headphones for the first time. I don't have the HD CD player but the DVD player on playing this through is doing something really cool with 5.1 surround sound on. I often wonder what I'm missing without the HD CD player. The headphones experience of a show is so much different than a live room. Now I'm curious to hear how does PNC 1973 shows sound on the 5.1 system.

    Jimmy - great point dude, I never even thought of that. The Dead themselves could have worn parts of these tapes out from just reviewing their performances.

    Philontap - I have a feeling it was probably your post that I read on the Hoffman forum. I posted a short comment. Haven't been back there in a few days. Will check out He's Gone. I love those little nuances in their playing.

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    God, not only were you there, you were "there". When I saw The Stones at the Knebworth festival in 1976, I was so far away I could have been in the next county.

    Funny when we attend a gig/show/festival that subsequently gets perceived and represented as a historical event-when at the time it just seems like another night out. I have never been to anything that had the magnitude of Altamont. I can remember seeing the Sex Pistols around the time they became National threat in Britain - Decemer 1976. If there hadn't been such a fuss afterwards, I'm not sure I would have remembered it.

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    I was among those on the Hoffman forums touting the 10/17/72 Playin' jam as in my top 5 all time. This whole box is really a magnificent compilation of material. Second only to the E'72 trunk. I don't have the trunk itself but I have all the shows. Man, this band could cook.

    I have't been here in a while, but hello again and enjoy it all. Special mention of He's Gone from 10/19/72: at 9:59, Jerry and Bobby emerge from their typical exit jam and somehow simultaneously drop into this gorgeous melody over chord idea that they nail in unison. Bobby then chooses to move to a harmonic counterpoint, but he and Jer move in an out of unison as Phil ramps up the intensity to a clear Jerry blast out at 10:31. These moments are why I buy these releases. That 32-second sequence paid for the entire box. No other rock band could ever do that.

  • Vguy72
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    ....firing up 10.29.73 from this box. The band loved long shows that year. Ain't complaining. Spent a couple days revisiting '79 on the Pick Of The Day board. So much music. So little time
    And yes. This box rules Jimbo.
    Golden Knights and Philly Flyers tied up after two periods btw.
    Edit. We need more heads chiming in on that board. It's fun.

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    Yes I went to see the show at Altamont...I mean it was the Stones, GD, Santana etc supposedly....I was somewhat upfront and as the day word on being by myself I moved closer to the stage, about 60 ft. from it...Angels were out of control...there were a couple of busses parked close to the stage and through the day they were sitting on top for a better view...by late afternoon they were tossing urine filled wine bottles into the crowd...fun...pundits like to call this concert the end of the hippy dream etc but I think that a buncha hooey...all the bands did their best and there were some great momentsbut still...

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    This box rules.. if I have one complaint.. I think they listened to these masters a bit too before they put them in storage. You can tell the source tapes were dragged across heads a few times. ..but hey, that's testament that they were good shows. Pure speculation of course, but I just might be correct.

    A great box. Now.. about BCT a couple months earlier. That's next.

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    I wrestled sleep to feed this box set addiction. But screw it, TGIF. The Dark Star tease at the end of the 10/17 Bertha kills me every time. Rational thought reminds me that they wouldn't have played it the next night if they had gone into it on 10/17, but it gets me all the same. Kind of like the Wild Thing tease on DP 28 before GSET.

    So yeah, 10/17 - I was on the Dave Hoffman forum, and there was much talk about the PITB - so I thought I'd pass that on. It wasn't a "yeah it's a pretty good 72 version"; it was a flat out "the 10/17 PITB jumped to my top 3" sort of remark. I fell asleep before it ever came on, so today for sure. What I did uncover was Billy's drumming on El Paso - I can't say I've ever heard him whip this song up like he does here. Lots of great snare pops and giddy-ups between verses (I think he was doing couplets or double time or some such musical term - any drummers in the house?)

    12/10 is on the agenda for today. Doc I think you made a good call on the Good Lovin' jam section. I think it may be better than any of the E72 versions - looking forward to paying close attention to that one on its anniversary. In fact I have 50 minutes before work - I'm going to turn off Bird Song and turn on that 2nd set from12/10.

    Daverock, yeah I did react emotionally. I tend to stay on the sidelines, but there are a few people here I keep in touch with well enough to call friends.

    On second thought I'm going to let this Bird Song play through. Jerry brought the stuff.

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    50 years ago today…..

    December 10, 1971
    Fox Theater, St Louis, Missouri

    Set 1: Bertha-Me And My Uncle-Mr. Charlie-Loser-Beat It On Down The Line-Sugaree-Jack Straw-Next Time You See Me-El Paso-Tennessee Jed-Big Railroad Blues-Casey Jones

    Set 2: Good Lovin'-Brokedown Palace-Playing In The Band-Run Rudolph Run-Deal-Sugar Magnolia-Comes A Time-Truckin'>drums>The Other One>Sitting On Top Of The World>The Other One-Not Fade Away>China Cat Sunflower jam>Goin' Down The Road Feeling Bad>Not Fade Away

    Encore: One More Saturday Night

    This is deadicated to Kevin Kelly……………

    The solid but somewhat unremarkable first set gives no clue of the upcoming super nova second set. Highlights include the great Good Lovin’ to open and the massive jam that closes the set. Another monster December 1971 show, and one that actually does get widespread love and respect. I am eternally grateful to TPTB for its official release. Savor it!

    Ladies and gentlemen we have a loose frap………..

    Rock on!!

    Doc
    The universe is built on a plan the profound symmetry of which is somehow present in the inner structure of our intellect…..

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    Thanks for that-no hard feelings on my behalf either. It seems wherever you get people together you get disputes (whenever I've involved, anyway) - what matters is if and how you resolve them.

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    12/9 - if nothing else it has the GOAT Run Rudolph Run.

    Sometimes I sit back and marvel that we have all of these shows to listen to. I count roughly 25 officially released 1971 shows (partial releases and compilations). I don't have 25 Rush, Who, and Yes shows combined from their entire touring careers. I wonder what that cost them from night to night - and then take into consideration that they weren't exactly a wealthy band pre-hiatus. I know they used these tapes to analyze their performances, but where do they even find the time to do that...

    I hadn't heard 12/9 until the box came out. I've listened to it a bunch if times now, and yeah, it's shorter, and doesn't pack the heat of a long 2nd set jam.....but hinking back to when the archive releases first got off the ground in the early 90s, and there we're long droughts between releases, would we have been as excited about a12/9 show? It's kind of a rhetorical question for me, because I wasn't into them at the time, but I imagine anything live would have been a treat. It takes a lot of listens for me to really absorb a show, but I think they played as well as 12/10, right?

    No hard feelings Daverock.

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What's Inside:
7 Previously Unreleased Complete Shows On 20 Discs
Fox Theatre, St. Louis, MO 12/09/71
Fox Theatre, St. Louis, MO 12/10/71
Fox Theatre, St. Louis, MO 10/17/72
Fox Theatre, St. Louis, MO 10/18/72
Fox Theatre, St. Louis, MO 10/19/72
Kiel Auditorium, St. Louis, MO 10/29/73
Kiel Auditorium, St. Louis, MO 10/30/73
Sourced from tapes recorded by Rex Jackson, Owsley "Bear" Stanley, and Kidd Candelario
Mastered in HDCD by Jeffrey Norman
Restoration and Speed Correction by Plangent Processes
 
Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 13,000

Steamboats and BBQ, ice cream cones and Mardi Gras - are you ready to laissez les bons temps rouler with the "gateway" to the Grateful Dead? Meet us, won't you, in St. Louis for seven complete and previously unreleased Dead concerts that capture the heart of the band's affinity for the River City.
 
LISTEN TO THE RIVER: ST. LOUIS ’71 ’72 ’73 is a 20CD set featuring five shows from the Fox Theatre - December 9 and 10, 1971; October 17-19, 1972; and two from the Kiel Auditorium - October 29 and 30, 1973. 
 
The seven shows in the collection span slightly less than two years, but they represent some of the best shows the Grateful Dead played during some of its peak tours. The music tells the story of a band evolving, changing from one sound to another seamlessly, precipitated – in large part – by significant personnel changes in the Dead’s lineup.
 
The two 1971 shows feature the original Grateful Dead lineup plus newcomer Keith Godchaux on piano. This version of the band would hold together for the next six months as the Dead embarked upon its Europe ’72 tour. By the time the Dead returned to the Fox Theatre less than a year later, they were without Pigpen, who’d played his final show with the Dead at the Hollywood Bowl on June 17, 1972. A year after the exceptional Fox 1972 shows, the Dead came back to St. Louis, but played the much larger Kiel Auditorium, touring behind the release of WAKE OF THE FLOOD, which came out just two weeks before.
 
All told, the band played 60 different songs during these shows highlighted by blazing romps through “Beat It On Down The Line” and “One More Saturday Night” and wistful takes on “Row Jimmy” and “Brokedown Palace” (whose lyrics give the collection its name). Meanwhile, the copious jamming ebbed and flowed like the mighty Mississippi River on multiple voyages through “The Other One” and “Dark Star.” Naturally, the band paid tribute to one of its favorite rock and rollers and one of St. Louis’ biggest stars by playing Chuck Berry songs at every show in the collection, including Pigpen galloping through “Run Rudolph Run.”  
 
Each show has been restored and speed corrected using Plangent Processes with mastering by Jeffrey Norman. The collection comes in a slipcase with artwork by Liane Plant and features an 84-page hardbound book as well as other Dead surprises. To set the stage for the music, the liner notes provide several essays about the shows, including one by Sam Cutler, the band’s tour manager during that era, and another by Grateful Dead scholar Nicholas G. Meriwether, among others. 
 
Due October 1st, LISTEN TO THE RIVER: ST. LOUIS ’71 ’72 ’73, is limited to 13,000 individually numbered copies and available exclusively from Dead.net.

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So I'm curious, those of you who received the box, anyone live on the east coast? Just wondering how far they've made it. I also have a Sunday delivery scheduled. Post office only delivers Amazon on Sunday. Not to mention they are closed Monday. Which means only Amazon then as well. They may deliver priority on Monday but I doubt this box is priority.

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8336 arrived in Denver today.👍

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....shipping update never changed to "out for delivery". Stayed in "on its way" mode. Delivered by UPS, no USPS. I'm still at work. Will report back later. The digital download comment page is still a shitshow.
Edit. I'm west coast.

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This has got to be the worst box set packaging yet. Unnecessarily large, just for the sake of making it look impressive from the outside, I guess. It's not HUGE, but way bigger than it needs to be. There is so much wasted/unused space that you could fit 5 or 6 more digipacks inside. If you haven't received yours yet, you will see what I mean. Very poor design. I'm disappointed. In my opinion, the ideal package/box design is doing it like the July 1978 box or the first May 1977 box. Keep it minimal! I know I'm not the only one who feels this way as I've read other similar comments about box size/style preferences. No comment on the shows themselves. As long as all the discs play without issues I know what to expect - lots of hours of primo GD listening enjoyment.

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Anyone seen Dave? He must be down by the water doing a lot of nature watching and videoing! Looking forward to all the details of St. Louis and Dave’s Picks!

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A rabid pack of sea otters may have gotten him while he was recording the DaP40 announcement.

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....and, while I agree somewhat on smaller boxes, this one is indeed beautiful and not too big.
Somewhat spoiler. The banter before the 12.9.71 Truckin' is hilarious and somewhat foreshadowing. You'll know what I'm talking about when you hear it. Sounds grate!! Time to change my avatar and turn it to 11!

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#05451 it is...and I do like the box...The digi-paks themselves though, that's another matter....

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5 hours ago my box set was in Kentucky. UPS now say it will be delivered, to me in the UK, on Monday 10th. Still seems unlikely given all the custom clearance that will be needed. I may never leave the house again!

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Mine also arrived in Kentucky early this morning and has an estimated delivery time of Monday morning. I haven't received any request for payment yet so I will be surprised if I see it on Monday. At least it is heading in my direction so I have no reason to complain.

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Simonrob-not often you can say that! Not you personally, I hasten to add-not often "one" can say that. Still, the day is young.

I'm 10-45am-2.45pm on Monday now, too. I must say, I am looking forward to getting this one more than I have been with any other parcel this year. And there have been a few.

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yet? anyone listen to these shows yet? searching for the sound, is it all there? dropouts? patches? pristine beauty? Bueller? I hear the 72 vinyl is fantastic, sure hope these cds are as phenomenal.

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I will go out on a limb and mirror your remarks. I listened to this run a few years ago, and that's my memory. That PITB/Dark Star Morning Dew sandwich is indeed the special sauce from the whole sequence.

..but in fairness, I have not gotten any of this yet, so no fully cleaned up listens. I could change my mind, but I doubt it.

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My box now in Philadelphia with a UK delivery time of Monday 12:00 - 15:00. No ransom note yet but I expect I'll get one.

If you believe you have been charged excessively then you can contact UPS Postflights Department to clarify the charges on 0345 7 877877 or send an email to ukpostclearATups.com attaching the dead.net invoice, and make the subject your tracking number.

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Was here when I got home from work last night!.

The box is nicely printed on and I don't mind the size. What I don't like is the way the cds are in the big box, you have to tip the box over to get them out (or have very long finger nails!) Not a big thing, since I'll only be taking them out to rip. The swag is cute.

Now on to the music!

Oh,,, somebody mentioned wasted space in the box,,, it's not wasted. If you push the hidden button the space will open up into a replica of the stage in 71,,,,, very impressive!!!

..... he's lying! Every time some white reporter shows up he says he box does something special.

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1431 has landed in PA. I won't be able to listen until tonight but i'm so excited it's here.

Was surprised to hear the comments about the size - when it arrived i actually thought it would be bigger. It's basically the size of a personal-sized pizza box. Not bad at all. Enjoy, everyone!

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....that's what my wife says anyways and everyone loves pizza.
As far as the sound, I'm through the '71 shows so far and they sounded excellent 👌. Going to see the new James Bond movie this afternoon then will dip into 1972, which were recorded by Bear, so I'm sure they will be auditory bliss.
Btw, if anyone wants to check out some nifty Grateful Dead playing cards, go to theory11 dot com for some quality ones they offer, among others.
Obligatory joke.
What does James Bond's doorbell sound like?
Dong. Ding Dong.
Have a grate weekend everyone!!

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Ian - thanks for that-I think I'll give them a ring on Monday morning and see if they can account for the £63.15 charge. I've already paid it, but....well, see how far I get.

Jim - yes, my comments are pure speculation, of course, although I have heard 10/18/72 before. For me it is one of the great shows - and about to get better, if the vinyl is anything to go by. The dark horses for me in this set are the 1973 shows. Not much has been said about them so far.

As to the size or look of the actual box-I don't really mind about that. As long as the cds play ok I'm at peace.

Happy to finally get a delivery email. Arriving this coming Tuesday, can’t wait to start listening. I don’t care about the size of the box, I just care about the music. For those who already have it… enjoy your weekend.

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Box set dimension is worrying me
I can't hardly sleep at night
'Cause of box set dimension

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Just got back from a very windy bike ride to find that #00154 (lowest number yet...must mean I am cool) had landed on my door step. Still no shipping confirmation email, but I am here for the tunes not the emails. The rest of my Saturday has been spoken for! Yippeee!

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A Deadhead's life for me

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Listened to Yes Relayer all the way through

Some sections were out there

Some was good

Some was....meh

A pretty thick chunk of musical meat all around

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Where is the number on the box, I looked all over the external box and internal box. Also, the corner of the box got bent in a little during shipping, not a huge deal, but I would prefer perfect. Live with it?

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The Apollo has landed... the set opens with a great deal of witty banter before a 12/9/71 "Truckin'" with Phil telling people they can go across town and listen to Grand Funk Railroad... so far so good, great era, great set list, great vibes.

The limited edition # is stamped in foil on the back of the book. This is indeed a beautiful set, if there's one thing Rhino does well it is package art design. A thin, slim volume that is very bookshelf friendly, the inks are beautiful and I give it 5 stars out of 5. I am rarely disappointed by the design of these boxes, each unlike another and this one is no exception.

Glass of Jack Daniel's in hand and EVH Frankenstrat on my lap, I now leave you to embark on an hours long listening binge.

Bon Voyage!

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....apologies ledded. But you really need to step up your whiskey/bourbon game. Other than that, rock on.

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I see it. Executed to rip and play the music. Can’t get enough 71.

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....what's the number? We're waiting.
You joined on my birthday btw. Cool.
Firing up 10.12.72 now.
I'm excited.
Ledded brought up a good point regarding the boxes. Every one of them is different. Even the Spring 90 and Spring TOO don't exactly match.
It's like the island of lost toys, but in Dead Box fashion lol.
Bird Song in the second slot on 10.12.72? That works. The sound is impeccable and no skips so far.
Thanks Bear!! Truly a magician/scientist. Onward!!

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2655. All 3 are good years and look like good shows. I love these early 70s shows. The packaging on this one is reasonable too, although hard not to slide out all the disks.

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....yup. Should have included some
ribbons. Minor complaint though.
Felt inserts in the digipacs wouldn't hurt either.

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Got mine. The hardcover book has a whole section of pages that were manufactured upside down from page 5 through page 12. Page 4 goes to an upside down page 12. Anybody else have this printing mistake? If so than someone forgot to proof read the final product. If it's just mine I received a misprinted book.

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2252 and all the pages in the book are right side up (not upside out or inside down). Spacebro, I think you got the special collector's edition.

Disk 1 had some minor scratches on arrival. That would have helped. So far the other disks all look good. Again, they all play fine, just not quite perfect. My Giants Stadium box was the same. One of the digipaks wasn’t glued so the disk slid to the bottom. Minor issues though. As long as the disks are ok.

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....I have a poster from the 1999 Bob Dylan/Paul Simon tour that says Las Vegas, CA.
Walked up to the merch stand after the show and the vendor said "All we have left are these misprints."
I should've bought three.
Lucky Bro.

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if the band in the first set of 12-9-71 -- Brown-Eyed Women, Mr. Charlie, and Tennessee Jed -- doesn't sound almost exactly like the Euro '72 band of four months later with Keith in high gear after two months in the keyboard chair. I know that shouldn't be astonishing -- only four months from St Louis to Europe -- but the sound quality and the playing were so close I had to comment.

As for the book, I had multiple pages glued together by a tiny area near the binding and the pages got damaged as I easee them apart. Otherwise, nice packaging, although I'll probably toss the box itself and shelve the individual shows chronologically in my '66 to '75 shelf.

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Did anyone else notice that the first set on 12-9-71 begins with quite muffled sound on Truckin'? At first I was taken aback, but the sound quickly improved to astounding quality -- but right at the start it's sub-par.

That is all for now. Finishing the first show tonight and taking a few days' break til 12-10-71.

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Looking forward to this.
Surprised that we really have not seen the box set.
It is the level of creativity to these packages that keeps winning me over.
Has anyone done an unboxing YouTube video yet?
The Dead.net web site really is not showing much.

USPS left it at my front door before 1pm.

Did a quick inspection and the box itself is an epic waste of space. Approximately 3/8 of the interior is just air. So, not just a waste of shelf space but also a waste of materials and resources.
Looks like my book was printed correctly.
CD cases are paperboard like 30 Trips and Road Trips.

Overall dimensions, for those who haven’t received it but want to know, it’s a little bit smaller than an LP vinyl case and about 3 inches thick.

Will give a first listen tonight.

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No box yet, but thinking along the lines of Hendrixfeaks last but one post, I would say that when I think of 1971, as a year, I tend to think of the 5 man and not the one with Keith and Donna in it. From the moment Keith joined the sound changed to that explored in 1972. So 1972, for me starts in October 1971 and ends with Pigpens last show in summer 1972. Which is when 1973 starts.
The same argument applies to earlier years to some extent, too. The division of the bands progress and sound as being typified by particular years is quite arbitarary, when you come to think about it.

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