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    18,000 happy Dead Heads could not be wrong. Deer Creek, my how you deliver.

    We're closing the books on DAVE'S PICKS 2021 with not one but two - nearly - complete shows from Noblesville, IN 7/18/90 & 7/19/90. Yes, we've packed it all on four CDs, save for that second night encore which we promise you'll get to hear in the very near future. Sometimes there really is just too much good stuff.

    For now, we'll invite you to cozy up with two exceptional back-to-back shows, shows with precision and clarity, shows with more than a lion's share of exploratory jams, and most importantly, shows that were simply a damn good time for all. Highlights from night one include the bookends of a spectacular "Help>Slip!>Franklin's" and an epically intricate "Morning Dew" followed by a classic cover of "The Weight." Night two, is the sleeper hit, with flawless playing from start to finish, the set list inviting you to find new favorites in top-notch renditions of "Foolish Heart" or "Victim Or The Crime," and if that's not one of the finest versions of "Desolation Row" Bobby ever did do! We would be remiss if we didn't mention that these shows were among Brent's last and they are some of his finest of the era at that.

    Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOL. 40: DEER CREEK MUSIC CENTER, NOBLESVILLE, IN 7/18 & 19/90 was recorded by Dan Healy and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman.

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  • Forensicdoceleven
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    I've got an opinion on everything.....

    Morning, rockers!!!

    Interesting posts flying about. Some insightful, some the usual whining about stuff beyond our control..............

    As somebody who "grew up" in the cassette trading days, perhaps my standards are lower. I was used to cuts, edits, audience patches, and incomplete shows. Would I prefer complete shows? Perhaps. It depends on the show.........

    On the other hand, I have no problem with incomplete shows being officially released. I enjoyed the Road Trips series quite a bit. There's lots of "incomplete" stuff in the vault---especially early 1968---hopefully those things will see the light of day eventually.

    Off to the morgue, where Dead meets dead...............

    Rock on!!

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    I liked them. Sometimes I had to use a knife to get the cd out of the cardboard sleeve, it was packed in so tightly. But once out, it never went back in, and none of them got scratched as far as I know.

    Maybe there would be some mileage in running another series of releases, to run concurrently with Dave's Picks. One which focusses on some of the great music that was played in the early years, but which comes from shows that are incomplete. It's unfortunate that if all that remains of a particular show is a 20-30 minute jam, then, as things stand, that jam is unlikely to be released-however great it may have been.

  • wilfredtjones
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    thanks for the shout out

    Just so happens 10-30-71 was one of my earliest tapes. I gotta tune into that one again sometime. Definitely overshadowed by the next night... :-)

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    I think the cardboard sleeves were just the first attempt at environmentally friendly packaging, which clearly wasn't consumer friendly. I recently got 'Lost Futures' by Marisa Anderson and William Tyler which, though cardboard, has a paper/plastic inner sleeve to protect the CDs.
    In terms of numbers on 2 out of the last 10 Dave's have been 67-74 so law of diminishing returns
    I suppose the point i was making was that, given the incomplete nature of many of the earlier recordings, the current 'obsession' with having COMPLETE concerts means that some of the best early stuff will never get released.
    Thereagain i would probably be considered a heretic to many here as nearly all the downloads i have (many from back in the day when you could download soundboards from the archive) get edited to to a single disc per concert. I mean don't get me wrong I love MAMU but.....
    Maybe some might get released as part of 55th anniversary celebrations
    Time for my mid morning nap.....

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    50 years ago today……

    October 30, 1971
    Taft Theater, Cincinnati, Ohio

    Set 1: Bertha-Me & My Uncle-Sugaree-Beat It On Down The Line-Loser-Playing In The Band-Tennessee Jed-Jack Straw-Big Railroad Blues-Me And Bobby McGee-Brown Eyed Women-One More Saturday Night

    Set 2: Casey Jones-Mexicali Blues-Comes A Time-El Paso-Ramble On Rose-Sugar Magnolia-Truckin'-Not Fade Away>Goin' Down The Road Feelin' Bad>Not Fade Away

    Deadicated to floridabobaloo, thursday's child, gdhead77, mbarilla, Zuckfun, brokedowndude, wissinomingdeadhead, LoveJerry, jrf68, and wilfredtjones, because 210………

    Oh, to be caught between Cleveland and Columbus. Perhaps that’s a cosmic joke, in an Ohio sort of way, but it’s really no laughing matter……

    There was some sweet jamming during the Fall & Winter tours of 1971, with Other Ones and Dark Stars becoming more common than in the first half of the year. What to make of the six shows without a “big jam sequence” (10/23, 27, 30; 11/11; 12/2, 7, 9) ?? They range from “somewhat average” to “pretty damn good”.

    There was almost always something good played at every 1971 Dead show, but sometimes you have to dig around to find it. This show is no different, so enjoy digging around!

    Rock on!!

    Doc
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    There were some great ones.. they certainly grew on me after they were discontinued. I did not like them as much when they were being issued primarily because the discs were prone to being scratched from the rough stock cardboard sleeves and their tight fit.

    Road Trips:
    7 of the 17 or 41% were between '67 and '74

    Dave's Picks:
    20 of the 41 or 49% were between '67 and '74

    Not sure if going back to this format is going to scratch what itches.. plus going back to the brown paper back packaging isn't something I see them doing. I'd say we made out pretty well with the change.

    .... the Carousel Ballroom, Big Rock Pow Wow, Fillmore East and Wall of Sound shows have become full-on classics. Summer/Fall 71 and Fall 73 are outstanding also. I like both series.

    If there's something from the Road Trips series that's outstanding it's the bonus discs.

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    Sorry to hear.
    Ours passed a mile or so from our house on its first trip by and across the state. It’s probably passing by again in the other direction now, and will, hopefully, eventually cross back this way again for possible arrival on Tuesday.
    Not sure how this is more economical, but know that we prefer the version used for the box.
    With the box, most boxes?, if your a UPS member for a small fee you can have it routed to your house instead of the post office. So what you might say?
    Well, where we don’t get home delivery mail, it means having to get to the PO during business hours, not always easy, with increased close contact crammed into a small lobby. More importantly, it increasing odds of something bad happening.
    Still don’t understand how not giving people shipping options is good business as it’s a missed chance for increased revenue? Remember back when you could check a box for different shipping options, usually for a premium?

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    Shipping delays?

    Don’t say it’s so.
    Isn’t the global package transit system working like a Swiss watch?

    Tracking said that mine was expected to be delivered today, but it just spent 20 hours sitting at a UPS facility a few hours away.
    Maybe tomorrow…..

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    Bring back Road Trips
    At least we might get decent 67-74 releases
    Some may like 'mid period stuff'
    Not me.
    Just my opinion.......

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    Well, mine is on it's way, status: Fontana, CA.
    Enjoy!
    G.

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18,000 happy Dead Heads could not be wrong. Deer Creek, my how you deliver.

We're closing the books on DAVE'S PICKS 2021 with not one but two - nearly - complete shows from Noblesville, IN 7/18/90 & 7/19/90. Yes, we've packed it all on four CDs, save for that second night encore which we promise you'll get to hear in the very near future. Sometimes there really is just too much good stuff.

For now, we'll invite you to cozy up with two exceptional back-to-back shows, shows with precision and clarity, shows with more than a lion's share of exploratory jams, and most importantly, shows that were simply a damn good time for all. Highlights from night one include the bookends of a spectacular "Help>Slip!>Franklin's" and an epically intricate "Morning Dew" followed by a classic cover of "The Weight." Night two, is the sleeper hit, with flawless playing from start to finish, the set list inviting you to find new favorites in top-notch renditions of "Foolish Heart" or "Victim Or The Crime," and if that's not one of the finest versions of "Desolation Row" Bobby ever did do! We would be remiss if we didn't mention that these shows were among Brent's last and they are some of his finest of the era at that.

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOL. 40: DEER CREEK MUSIC CENTER, NOBLESVILLE, IN 7/18 & 19/90 was recorded by Dan Healy and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman.

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Whoa, this is great to see - summer tour '90, these are I believe the next shows after my very first show in Buffalo '90. Love it, bring it!

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I am glad that they finally put out 2 show[s] from the beginning of the 90s because for the most part it was going down hill due to jerry being exhausted. This will probably be somewhat a good thing since the next Dap#41-44 will concentrate more on the 70s and hopefully 60s and knowing that they won't use 90s for 3rd pick. I hope we will get no more 90s in the future. No offense to anyone else. My opinion only.

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89-90 was a high water mark for sure. I am well chuffed with this one!

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For those who speak Dave, what does he mean by this? Just the encore from 7-19-90 and what else? Could there be a second box this year or is he teasing for the next subscription sales season? So many questions. I'm confused. But I've learned to live with that. Anheuser's (born in St. Louis) disease has that hidden benefit. It's all new again every day.
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Didn’t see that coming lol.
Not familiar with these at all.
Was at Buffalo, which was good, hopefully these are as good as he implies…

ISTSHOW: bet he’s going to just tack it on as bonus material…the question is will it be more 90, or something else?

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Not my birthday show!!

We did Pittsburg and foxboro on that tour.

The sample sounds good.

Glass ordered!!!! If it gets here unbroken,,, I will have all four!!!!

Guess that showed the axe who was boss!! (but damn,,, i wished I had ordered one!!! Maybe just to piss the wife off a little :-) )

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I'm sure this will be fun, and it's four discs. I'd guess the missing encore will be streamed as a listening party.

Admittedly, didn't see this coming. These shows had to be the friendliest place for two nights in Indiana, which I'm sorry to say I never found to be an inviting place by any means.

Tape source? I didn't have the patience for Dave's seaside chat.

....Dave mentioned these were DAT tapes, and that they actually added in a little audience ambience in between songs, because the DATs were so crispy and dialed-in to the music. I'm ok wit DAT.

See what I did there?
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I'm down for Deer Creek. Nice!

He said Healy board with an aud source blended in between songs…
The encore will appear on a Dave’s from 2022. I’m guessing as bonus material?

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"you better shake some action
bring it on, bring it on"

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Okay, I'm not complaining, but the seaside chats are hard to watch. I just fast forwarded to hear that these are soundbds with aud mixed in for ambience and US Blues will be added to one of 2022's release. Okay.

The only comments I cared about were a) DaP 41 to be announced "soon" and b) there's purportedly so much coming out next year that some projects had to be moved to 2023. So Dave has the hook into me for another two years! I now see Wake of the Flood 50th coming out in 2023. As for 2022 ... what? "Ace" 50th? Remix/remaster of (3) "best" Euro '72 shows? A fall '72 box? Something we just aren't conceiving?

The GD Vault truly is the mystery box that keeps giving. Glad to be along for the ride! (Except the incessant "this show is the greatest and, oh, look at that sea otter on my leg!"

Cheers, gents.

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on the 18th the anticipation for Help>Slipknot>Franklin's was insane.... I remember a giant godzilla making it's way down to the stage!!

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Lance from Morning Dew on WBAI played a sick board of 7/19/90 back in i think 92 & my recording of the radio broadcast came out static-free... wore those tapes out, as every tune is immaculately conceived...
7/19/90 & 3/24/90 are ze 2 best shows from 1990, for me... it's a damn shame what they did to Set-1 from 3/24/90, don't get me started about that dumb shite...
if you're not into Victim>Foolish, this version will make you a believer, if not for the segue alone... ♤

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This looks great to me. I have long wondered if we'd see a summer 1990 in Dave's picks. I've never listened to these shows closely but the first one shows up on lists of best shows from the era. As a head who grew up in the midwest in the 90s, great to see Deer Creek get some love on a Dead release. Looks like a great batch of songs. Can't wait to give this one a spin! Thanks Dave!

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Now we're getting serious! This is the ONE!!!

I caught 7 shows that year. 3 at the Omni, first 2 nights of Tinley Park and 2 at Compton Terrace. All performances were glorious.

I can't rave enough about this Deer Creek run. Thank you Dave and crew!

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Well, since I'm still working my way through the 20 discs worth of the '70s Dead that just dropped on my door step, I suppose I can make do with the next DaP being a 1990 show. I mean, they can't all be '70s shows. Can they?

The set list on the 18th looks promising. Seems like this will be a nice coda to the Brent years and well worth having.

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I actually taped 7/19/90 and look forward to hearing this. Best Promised Land, best Deloation Row, one of the best TLEOs ever. The US Blues encore was one of the best as well.

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I can recall these shows vividly. As an Ohio person, Deer creek was a place we always hit. Help>Slip>Franklin's, Minglewood + Easy to Love You the first night was wonderful. BE Women, Cassidy, Deal to end the first set. Nice China > Rider, nice jam out of Terrapin. A tad short out of drums, but nice Other One into a fantastic Dew. Weight encore.

The pre-drums segment of the 2nd night is also very fine. I love Althea so I remember loving that at the time.

Agree with Dave, in retrospect, at Deer Creek, it seemed everything was fine. At Tinley Park, I did get some weird vibes from the stage with Brent. In a way, this was the last stop where everything seemed OK to me. Nothing but smiles from me on this one. Only the second time we've had 2 Brent era releases on the Dave's in one year, and they have been the last two.

Still, '90 for me is part of The Eleven ('69, '72, '73, '77; '70, '71, '74, '76, '78, '89, '90), so I am all good there.

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i read the email but didn't watch the video. Did Dave mention where we might see the night 2 encore? Maybe part of the upcoming 30 days of dead?

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Excited for this one. TheeAmazinGace333 considers 7/19 and 3/24/90 as perfect shows. I’m right there with you on 3/24, which is one of the best shows they ever played. I’m close but not quite there with you on 7/19. Either way, really great couple of shows. Thanks for another twofer!

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80sfan, Dave said likely on 41 (or 42 or 43, hah)

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90's double shot. I'm ALL in!!!!!

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That has always bugged me, is, to me at least, we have not gotten the BIG shows from that era as Dave's. Which is fine, I mean, I get that not every show is gonna be a famous show or widely circulated release. Part of the fun is gonna be digging up hidden gems from the Vault & sharing them. I get that.

But for the 70's, we do/have gotten some obvious big tent shows: 11/17/73, 2/24/74, 1/22/78, 2/26/77, etc. I don't think any of the 80's Dave's fall into big tent category (though that 11/30/80 is close). I think these are at least in that range. I mean, then Branford/Spring tour shows and the Bruce/MSG runs are obviously the MOST famous from 1990. But these shows were hot, at least to me 20 year old ears at the time, and for sometime thereafter listening to the tapes.

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Interesting (and great) pick following the St. Louis extravaganza. Did someone below say Compton Terrace? Would love to see something from that wonderful venue released. 12/6/92 would be a fine choice, with snippets of 12/5 as filler. It's a great time to be a fan of the band.

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Dave 41 from RFK with 7/19 US Blues filler. Let’s do this!

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.... sound good. Listening to Dew right now, very crisp. "Official" copy should be great.

To kind of contrast it to Dick's Picks, there were a lot of, for me at least, Big Tent Brent shows that Dick selected. The Bobby Sands 1981 show, that '85 Sailor > Drums > Saint show, MSG Bruce '90 (OK, not Brent), etc. Now, of course, Dave WAS Dick for some of the latter ones, so credit where credit is due. Now, to be fair, a lot of Big Tent Brent has been released through other means: Warlocks Box, Spring '90, TOO, some of the 30 Trips stuff (10/27/79, 10/12/84, 6/24/85, 9/18/87 MSG, etc).

I am just excited to get some (what I consider to be) top shelf Brent era stuff on the Dave's picks. For the first/second time (that '80 show). But the first time from peak '89-'90 Brent. I am also excited listening to the St. Louis Box (on second '71 show now), and just recently got to see some darn good Dead & Co shows. I am officially in a GD happy place.

Agree, many of the non 80s Daves are, but none of the 80s are, in fact some are head scratchers?
Probably my only criticism of Dave, is he often picks the right neighborhood and street, but goes to the wrong house, especially with the 80s stuff.

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I do agree that most of the ‘80s picks aren’t the “big shows” of the Brent era. I mean the Alaska ‘80 shows haven’t been released, 10/10/82, the ‘84 Greek shows, etc. However, I think there just aren’t as many “big shows” from the 80s and 90s than the 60s and 70s. They were definitely more consistent with incredible shows in the first 15 years, and some big 80s shows like 11/30/80 and 9/2/83 have been released already. But I’m glad some of these sleeper shows are getting released, and I’m very excited for these shows. My two cents…

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God Bless the Grateful Dead.I was on the bus for many yrs at this point and feel I must express how important these final shows of Brent Mydland GD are. Brent was so much a part of this machine that his loss was even bigger than we could have imagined. The desolation row the easy to love you the beautiful work on foolish heart should remind us all what was lost and how huge his impact was. Thank you BMydland! Will be nice to have these gems. Thank you Dave et al.

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Update: The trick was to do it on the mobile app and not a browser.

Trying to place a preorder for this and when it gets to the part where you choose your payment method, the field is blank. So it's not allowing me to place this order. Very frustrated, have tried everything. Help!!

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7/13/84 is one. Alpine 89 is a big tent Summer run, but that should be a video/audio box. Many were in the 30 Trips box. I think 7/29/88 is another big one. Spectrum 89.

Compton Terrace 92. I was there. The Here Comes Sunshine breakout. Those were good shows. Jerry looked healthier than he had earlier that year. I remember great highlights like Samson, Uncle John's Band, Estimated. Among the best of 92 imho. I caught 12 shows that year including Copps Coliseum, The Palace, Deer Creek and Soldier Field with the James Cotton and Steve Miller guest sit-ins. That was a tentpole show.

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90 was a pinnacle year. No doubting or denying it. Brent brought life back to the band on 4.22.79 following some stale days with the Godchauxs and his power only grew, really peaking in 90. No one was prepared for the abrupt heartbreaking ending to that golden era. RIP Brent. The Other One on 7.18 has long been a favorite, and the Dew is sublime. Keep the 79, 80s and 90 shows coming please. Even the balances a bit. Due to the ravishes of time on our mortal brothers and sisters, along with the sheer ticket sale numbers, more of us active listeners were there during those years than any other period and were we ever blessed! Even Dave himself caught his first in 83, and the hommage has been paid to the early days for good reason, but the 89-90 period was just incredible with The beast, midi, harmonies with baritone Brent in toe, Jerry’s gracefully aged voice, and Phil back on the mic. Come on now, how have the Alaska shows, the 84 & 86 Greek shows, the shows from the last week of June 85, and the Alpine 89 and Spring 89 shows not been released in their entirety yet? I’ve gotta high limit on my plastic and will be checking!! Thanks 🙏

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I was very happy to see these shows chosen for the next Dave's Pick. I love all the Summer 1990 shows; am hoping to hear the two Eugene shows some day, they are my favorite two shows of the year. Again, I LOVE the latest Pick...Thank You!!

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Alright. Another two show four disc bonanza to end the year. And we get our first 1990 release. Would love to hear more about these shows Bob t.

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Checking things off your wish list.

I went to 7-21,22-90 but not Deer Creek. I know quite a few people who were at Deer Creek and they loved it. The middle-of-a-cornfield aspect really adds to the experience.
(My only visit to Deer Creek was 7-2-95…..)

I like 4-disc DaP’s for the 4th release of the year. Keep up the trend Dave.

With this and the STL Box, and the return of hockey, I think that I will be able to keep myself busy as the temps get colder and daylight gets shorter.

Speaking of hockey, LET’S GO RED WINGS!
Although they lost in overtime last night, that game was awesome!
I hope that they keep up the energy, don’t get plagued with injuries as usual, and get this rebuild going.
Last night was crazy for the total number of goals scored throughout the league. I think that players are happy to have the seats packed.

But back to GD.
Had to push some projects to 2023?
Intriguing.
And, DaP 2022 subscription is just around the corner.

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So grateful!!!

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It's nice to see some quality 1990 shows back in the Dave's Picks series. Yeah, I get it "good ol grateful dead" sells the best but after while that's gonna run out someday ... I was at these shows as well as the previous show at Louisville which could be the strongest show of the summer 1990 tour ... but this was the best Deer Creek shows from all the time they played that venue ... I saw all of deer creek shows except for 89 and 92 - nice soundboards circulated for years except for the first night , first set ... I was there , couldn't hear the PA for crap until about 20 minutes into the 1st set ... Help Slip Frank was well received as the only one from the summer played ... a really nice strong slipknot with some major Phil licks ... the whole first set is very well played and the second set we get a really nice powerful Other One that drifts right into the classic Morning Dew ... the Second night is very good too ... my only complaint is Healy went crazy with the gates and compression on the drums so we don't get to hear really good cymbals ... it will be nice to hear a pro mastered HDCD mix of this show ... I'm sure it's just t two track soundboard DAT source tape ... kudos for picking this show ... now , can you release 1984 Cedar Rapids July 4th show Dave ???? Thanks !!! Oh, the scene and weather were great for the shows ... not too many busts or hassles... that came the next year and got worse at Deer Creek in the years to come

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Another great Help>Slip>Franklin's opener. I attended 92 and 95 at Deer Creek. 92 was solid. 95 was a nightmare. Wish I would have attended 93 there as that Dark Star show was really good on tape.

Edit - That Playin>Drums>Dark Star>Dew>Playin sandwich from 10/18/72 sure is delicious. I'm starting with the 72 SL Fox shows. It's going to take a while to fully absorb the density of this set. What a way to close 2021 out and they still have the subscription pick to announce shortly after Dap 40 arrives. #41 and #42, with the bonus disc, both being the 1st two for the year are always big shows. Something from the 60s is due. At some point a Vince and/or with Bruce release is also due.

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Excited about these shows and that its gonna be 2 consecutive nights for the release. The new box set for St. Louis is AMAZING. Someone said sound was 3D on some shows and I would agree, its amazing how much difference the recoding engineer makes in the aural feel of any given performance. Would be nice to see more detail and featured breakdowns beyond what already exists of the folks responsible throughout the years. Could be a great coffee table book...

I sent a request to purchase a glass as I have the other 3. Would be nice if they came through with one of the extras. If not I will have the first 3 glasses available for an interesting trade if someone has the fourth and wants the other 3.

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That sandwich on 10/18/72 is surley one of the greatest live cds ever released. Happy days all round !

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I don't see these listed in the description at all so here they are:

7/18/90

Help on the Way
Slipknot!
Franklin's Tower
New Minglewood Blues
Easy to Love You
Peggy-O
Masterpiece
Brown Eyed Women
Cassidy
Deal

China Cat Sunflower
I Know You Rider
Looks Like Rain
Terrapin Station
drums
The Other One
Morning Dew

The Weight

7/19/90

Jack Straw
They Love Each Other
Desolation Row
Row Jimmy
Picasso Moon
Althea
Promised Land

Victim or the Crime
Foolish Heart
Playin' in the Band
China Doll
Uncle John's Band
drums
All Along the Watchtower
Black Peter
Not Fade Away

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