Listen To The River: St. Louis '71 '72 '73 (20-CD)

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What's Inside:
7 Previously Unreleased Complete Shows On 20 Discs
Fox Theatre, St. Louis, MO 12/09/71
Fox Theatre, St. Louis, MO 12/10/71
Fox Theatre, St. Louis, MO 10/17/72
Fox Theatre, St. Louis, MO 10/18/72
Fox Theatre, St. Louis, MO 10/19/72
Kiel Auditorium, St. Louis, MO 10/29/73
Kiel Auditorium, St. Louis, MO 10/30/73
Sourced from tapes recorded by Rex Jackson, Owsley "Bear" Stanley, and Kidd Candelario
Mastered in HDCD by Jeffrey Norman
Restoration and Speed Correction by Plangent Processes

Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 13,000

Steamboats and BBQ, ice cream cones and Mardi Gras - are you ready to laissez les bons temps rouler with the "gateway" to the Grateful Dead? Meet us, won't you, in St. Louis for seven complete and previously unreleased Dead concerts that capture the heart of the band's affinity for the River City.

LISTEN TO THE RIVER: ST. LOUIS ’71 ’72 ’73 is a 20CD set featuring five shows from the Fox Theatre - December 9 and 10, 1971; October 17-19, 1972; and two from the Kiel Auditorium - October 29 and 30, 1973.

The seven shows in the collection span slightly less than two years, but they represent some of the best shows the Grateful Dead played during some of its peak tours. The music tells the story of a band evolving, changing from one sound to another seamlessly, precipitated – in large part – by significant personnel changes in the Dead’s lineup.

The two 1971 shows feature the original Grateful Dead lineup plus newcomer Keith Godchaux on piano. This version of the band would hold together for the next six months as the Dead embarked upon its Europe ’72 tour. By the time the Dead returned to the Fox Theatre less than a year later, they were without Pigpen, who’d played his final show with the Dead at the Hollywood Bowl on June 17, 1972. A year after the exceptional Fox 1972 shows, the Dead came back to St. Louis, but played the much larger Kiel Auditorium, touring behind the release of WAKE OF THE FLOOD, which came out just two weeks before.

All told, the band played 60 different songs during these shows highlighted by blazing romps through “Beat It On Down The Line” and “One More Saturday Night” and wistful takes on “Row Jimmy” and “Brokedown Palace” (whose lyrics give the collection its name). Meanwhile, the copious jamming ebbed and flowed like the mighty Mississippi River on multiple voyages through “The Other One” and “Dark Star.” Naturally, the band paid tribute to one of its favorite rock and rollers and one of St. Louis’ biggest stars by playing Chuck Berry songs at every show in the collection, including Pigpen galloping through “Run Rudolph Run.”

Each show has been restored and speed corrected using Plangent Processes with mastering by Jeffrey Norman. The collection comes in a slipcase with artwork by Liane Plant and features an 84-page hardbound book as well as other Dead surprises. To set the stage for the music, the liner notes provide several essays about the shows, including one by Sam Cutler, the band’s tour manager during that era, and another by Grateful Dead scholar Nicholas G. Meriwether, among others.

Due October 1st, LISTEN TO THE RIVER: ST. LOUIS ’71 ’72 ’73, is limited to 13,000 individually numbered copies and available exclusively from Dead.net.

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October 31, 2021 - 8:16am

#521

icecrmcnkd

Joined:
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10-31-71

I listened to DP2 extensively in the 90’s. Set 2 is smoking and the release sounded so much better than the cassettes I was collecting at the time.

But, I doubt that the quality of Set 2 would be diminished if Set 1 was included in the release. Full shows should be released when possible, and everyone will have the option of putting what CD’s they want into their CD player.

I also don’t believe that Dave and Rhino have a policy that incomplete shows won’t get released. Everything worthwhile will come out eventually. But, once again, Dave and Rhino have 30 years of material to work with and shouldn’t have to cater to a single group that demands that they get all the attention (that includes pre-hiatus, post-hiatus, Donna-in, Donna-out, Brent, heroin-Jerry, etc., etc.).

I am thankful and Grateful that these recordings exist and that they are being polished up and released. Keep them coming Dave and Rhino, from all years so that an accurate representation of the entire career of the Greatest Band In The Universe is available.
October 31, 2021 - 8:12am

#522

Oroborous

Joined:
June 19, 2007

Dicks/partials

I don’t mind some of the partials.
Vol 14 comes to mind.
As long as the songs are sorta in order.
Don’t like when they totally do Boroughs like cut ups.
Ladies and Gentlemen for example. Doesn’t have the same flow.

EDIT: looking forward to taking vol 2 for a ride, it’s been awhile.
October 31, 2021 - 8:05am

#523

Dennis

Joined:
November 1, 2012

Unk Sam & Johnny

As I said I'm glad I got the Johnny cd (also the fucking album :-) )

But was shocked at the recording. The recordings of San Quentin and Folsom are FAR superior. Of course they were set up to make a record so the recording should be top notch,,,, right? :-) It was of course a "Columbia Stereo 360" album!

Like most "country" the songs are SHORT! 28 Songs on this cd.

But if you like the man in black, get it. I like supporting the Owsley recordings.

On the Johnny front... I remember when Ice-T was having trouble with Body Count's Cop Killer and people were whining about the violence in rap. He said nobody complained when Johnny Cash sang, "I shot a man in Reno, just to watch him die".

Then in Cocaine Blues Johnny sings.....

99 years underneath that ground
I can't forget the day I shot that bad bitch down

Life's funny!

Update on Johnny - ok my 3rd time thru. I'm getting use to the sound, I think maybe it was a mono recording(?) Not as muddy as first blush listen. But the distance between vocals and drums is weird. Like Johnny was standing on left side of stage at the edge and one guy with a drum kit was in the far rear right side. Odd imaging.

Glad I got!
October 31, 2021 - 6:51am

#524

JimInMD

Joined:
June 27, 2011

Dicks Picks 2

10/31/71 - See Doc's review, this one contains one of our favorite Dark Stars. My first listen was followed with a Wow and am immediate relisten.

Didn't I hear the reels for the first set were not in the vault? I thought they did not exist, but they seem to be represented on the archive. I do think we have a case for shows with missing reels to make their way into Dave's Picks under the umbrella of Full Show releases. They sort of blew through this barrier when they released fifth reel of 2/27/77 at the end of Dave's Picks Vol. 29

February 27, 1977 – Robertson Gym, University Of California, Santa Barbara, California:
"Morning Dew" (Bonnie Dobson, Tim Rose) – 13:58
"Sugar Magnolia" (Weir, Hunter) – 9:45
"Johnny B. Goode" (Chuck Berry) – 4:23

Dick's Picks 2 - an instant classic. A great release. Happy Halloween all.. trip or treat?
October 31, 2021 - 6:34am

#525

billy the kidd

Joined:
August 17, 2021

Daverock/partial show releases

Daverock, once again your intellligent and insightful comments make such a great case for partial releases. Using DP2( 10/31/71), is the perfect example, that is one of my all time favorite releases. There is really great material out there in the form of partial releases from 1968, 1969, & 1970. I listen to those shows on the Archive and sometimes there might be a nasty reel flip that makes releasing the whole show not the best option, but there is tremendous music all around that reel flip would make for a killer release. Aoxomoxoa 50th anniversary release is another example of a partial release, the music from the Avalon Balllroom is really cool. I would always prefer a complete release if it is possible,but you make such a great point using 10/31/71 as an example, why partial releases can be cool.
October 31, 2021 - 5:46am

#526

unkle sam

Joined:
October 3, 2008

wow

just reread some of the comments after I made my now infamous comment. Someone said bla, bla, bla which made no sense some said, I, I, me, me, I, I, I lol, some even agreed with me, thank you. Some even misunderstood what I said and some even put words into my mouth. I never said it was a rip off, I never said any thing that I thought was negative, just an opinion about what I thought and my preferences. You know what, I don't have to explain my self to some of you on this site who think you are the dead head of all deadheads, lol, get over your selves. Like I said before, my days of blindly buying dead music is over, I will listen first, try and get some information from non brainwashed deadheads about sound quality and make an INFORMED decision, that is all.
Of course I am down for another year of Dave's, but I too wish I could hear the releases first, (or at least know what they are going to be) then purchase, but then they wouldn't be able to sell any less than stellar shows which as we all know can be included in this set up. I will still blindly purchase these releases for the bonus disc and the early bird pricing. That is what keeps me coming back, early bird is like 4 for the price of 3, plus a bonus disc, a real no brainer. And as was stated by someone, if I don't like one of the releases, I can always sell it on ebay for double what it cost, lol.
Thanks for the heads up about the new Johnny Cash release from Bear, Dennis. I am truly sorry to hear that, I was so looking forward to hearing some Man in Black from the height of hippy days. I do understand that Bear was into a lot of things and recording the Grateful Dead was a passion and perhaps he had a bit of trouble with the set up due to the type of music it was and the way it was played, being used to the Dead and that set up. I don't know, just a theory. Still, would love to hear it.
October 31, 2021 - 3:32am

#527

daverock

Joined:
September 1, 2014

Bright Star!

I played Dicks Picks 2 myself last night....a wonderful disc. Proof positive that the distilled highlights of a show make for a great release. Unique Dark Star - both jazz inflected and melodic, with Jerry shining brightest. Hardly a whisper can be heard from Keith, though. Which probably adds to the tracks uniqueness-they could presumabley hear him, and respond to his playing-but we can't - we can only hear the response.

John Keats birthday today, too. Author of some of the most transcendental poems I have ever read - "Was it a vision or a waking dream/Fled is that music - Do I wake or sleep?"
October 31, 2021 - 2:10am

#528

Forensicdoceleven

Joined:
June 17, 2008

And so we came forth, and once again beheld the stars……….

50 years ago today……………

October 31, 1971
Ohio Theater, Columbus, Ohio

Set 1: Bertha-Me & My Uncle-Deal-Playing In The Band-Loser-El Paso-Tennessee Jed-Jack Straw-Big Railroad Blues-Brown Eyed Women-Mexicali Blues-Casey Jones-Cumberland Blues-One More Saturday Night

Set 2: Dark Star>Sugar Magnolia>St. Stephen>Not Fade Away>Goin’ Down The Road Feelin’ Bad>Not Fade Away

Encore: Johnny B. Goode

Deadicated to Jason Stempin…………

Long before the awakening of thought on earth, manifestations of cosmic energy must have been produced which have no parallel today………

The first set, average while fine, gives no hint of the cosmic energy that would be unleashed in the second set. Previously uncirculated, officially released as the only single-disc Dick’s Picks in March 1995, this exploded like a supernova upon first listening way back when. And it has stood up to repeated listening since then. It is indeed very very fine, one of the best official 1971 releases……

To quote DL himself: “I’m absolutely thrilled. I can’t believe that anyone who hears this is not going to go to outer space, intensely, over and over… This show was like getting hit with a brick in the face, I couldn’t believe it. I put it on again and said ‘Man!’ I must have played it ten times before I could talk… This is as good as it’s ever been. I’ve never heard anything like it, and I’m shocked… I have to put myself in a seatbelt. I start shaking, it’s so exciting… This is a thrill a minute.”

Doubt thou the stars are fire, doubt that the sun doth move, doubt truth to be a liar, but never doubt I love……..

Rock on!

Doc
I will love the light for it shows me the way, yet I will endure the darkness because it shows me the stars……
October 31, 2021 - 12:29am

#529

simonrob

Joined:
June 7, 2007

Paranoia strikes deep.

Sad. That's all.
October 30, 2021 - 9:36pm

#530

Gratefulhan

Joined:
June 6, 2007

Oro & Jim/Phish on West Coast

Oro and Jim, thank you both as well. I plan to stay in shape and keep up with BJJ for as long as I can. I think I am one of the younger commenters on these pages, but at my BJJ academy, I am one of the oldest. There are few guys that have about a year on me, but most people's I train with are in their 20's to early 30's. They are hard to handle, but I can still hold my own, at least for now.

I saw Phish this summer in Hershey. I had great time , but these West Shows look bonkers. What I have heard sounds great. Phish has been on top of their game I think for a while now, really least for the past 4 years or so. I need to do so more listening but it seemed like they turned their game up somewhere around 2015-2016 and just kept improving from then. Now it seems like just about every show is above average if not stellar.

Also, I will say that Dead & Co have upped their game as well. I saw them at Blossom this summer. I felt like that show was OK, but there where some really good shows over summer. Plus some of their recent West Coast shows have been high level as well from I have heard. As I typed this, I watched the free 2nd set opener for tonight - it was a very well played Jack Straw.

John Perry Barlow

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What's Inside:
7 Previously Unreleased Complete Shows On 20 Discs
Fox Theatre, St. Louis, MO 12/09/71
Fox Theatre, St. Louis, MO 12/10/71
Fox Theatre, St. Louis, MO 10/17/72
Fox Theatre, St. Louis, MO 10/18/72
Fox Theatre, St. Louis, MO 10/19/72
Kiel Auditorium, St. Louis, MO 10/29/73
Kiel Auditorium, St. Louis, MO 10/30/73
Sourced from tapes recorded by Rex Jackson, Owsley "Bear" Stanley, and Kidd Candelario
Mastered in HDCD by Jeffrey Norman
Restoration and Speed Correction by Plangent Processes

Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 13,000

Steamboats and BBQ, ice cream cones and Mardi Gras - are you ready to laissez les bons temps rouler with the "gateway" to the Grateful Dead? Meet us, won't you, in St. Louis for seven complete and previously unreleased Dead concerts that capture the heart of the band's affinity for the River City.

LISTEN TO THE RIVER: ST. LOUIS ’71 ’72 ’73 is a 20CD set featuring five shows from the Fox Theatre - December 9 and 10, 1971; October 17-19, 1972; and two from the Kiel Auditorium - October 29 and 30, 1973.

The seven shows in the collection span slightly less than two years, but they represent some of the best shows the Grateful Dead played during some of its peak tours. The music tells the story of a band evolving, changing from one sound to another seamlessly, precipitated – in large part – by significant personnel changes in the Dead’s lineup.

The two 1971 shows feature the original Grateful Dead lineup plus newcomer Keith Godchaux on piano. This version of the band would hold together for the next six months as the Dead embarked upon its Europe ’72 tour. By the time the Dead returned to the Fox Theatre less than a year later, they were without Pigpen, who’d played his final show with the Dead at the Hollywood Bowl on June 17, 1972. A year after the exceptional Fox 1972 shows, the Dead came back to St. Louis, but played the much larger Kiel Auditorium, touring behind the release of WAKE OF THE FLOOD, which came out just two weeks before.

All told, the band played 60 different songs during these shows highlighted by blazing romps through “Beat It On Down The Line” and “One More Saturday Night” and wistful takes on “Row Jimmy” and “Brokedown Palace” (whose lyrics give the collection its name). Meanwhile, the copious jamming ebbed and flowed like the mighty Mississippi River on multiple voyages through “The Other One” and “Dark Star.” Naturally, the band paid tribute to one of its favorite rock and rollers and one of St. Louis’ biggest stars by playing Chuck Berry songs at every show in the collection, including Pigpen galloping through “Run Rudolph Run.”

Each show has been restored and speed corrected using Plangent Processes with mastering by Jeffrey Norman. The collection comes in a slipcase with artwork by Liane Plant and features an 84-page hardbound book as well as other Dead surprises. To set the stage for the music, the liner notes provide several essays about the shows, including one by Sam Cutler, the band’s tour manager during that era, and another by Grateful Dead scholar Nicholas G. Meriwether, among others.

Due October 1st, LISTEN TO THE RIVER: ST. LOUIS ’71 ’72 ’73, is limited to 13,000 individually numbered copies and available exclusively from Dead.net.

Thanks Doc

Thanks for the shoutout doc.. received this message just as I was enjoying the second disc of 12/9/71 at the Fox. 10/19/71 = the first Comes a Time. Worth it just for that.

Hope you are enjoying this as much as I am... and thanks for delivering our daily dose of '71 with commentary.

Real Gone CD Sale

Real Gone Music is having its annual CD sale with several Dick's Picks and Road Trips discounted.

Sixtus

I love that billerica estimated/eyes. I've been busy all week trying to get my identity retrieved from some POS that hacked into my bank account and stole a couple grand and my SS#, if you can believe that. If I could have just 5 minutes with that guy, it would be worth it.

Talk about 'sick'...

Dropping that "Sittin' On Top of the World" in the middle of The Other One so perfectly and so perfectly launching back into TOO is truly quintessential Grateful Dead.

That sort of segue happened to us once early on, '72 or '73, and we looked at each other in true astonishment, our wordless expressions conveying "What just happened?" and/or "Did that actually happen?"

When you and your concert bro both react simultaneously, our theory was that SOMETHING actually happened, even if it was too late to rewind our minds and consider anything retroactively, as the train still hurtled down the track without pause. No time to rewind! Onward!

I love the energy and every single bit of music on the two '71 shows. Will cleanse the palate with a week or two of other artists before taking the plunge on the fall '72 shows.

Thanks to everyone involved in this terrific release. Boy, everything I could want in a GD box.

speaking of which

How about that transition back into The Other One from He's Gone on 10-19-72? I enjoyed that one today and it made me notice. As did Phil's E72 inflected harmony vocals.

50 years of Jack Straw

Thanks to Doc for the shoutout and for the reminder that one of the Dead's greatest additions to the American song canon turns 50 today! It's always sounded to me like an old folk song from the turn of the 19th Century. It fits right in with Peggy-O and Jack a Roe, which actually were of that ancient vintage and even older.

This was also the 16th anniversary of a String Cheese show I saw in Charlotte, with Hot Buttered Rum opening. In the opening set, HRB invited Billy Nershi up to play on a fantastic Cumberland Blues. Then to close the first set, we got a fairly rare How Sweet It Is, which JGB used to play, of course. And to open set 2, HBR was invited out to join in a clusterpluck for Friend of the Devil and Blackberry Blossom (Old and in the Way used to do that one, and the riff is very similar to FotD), and the encore featured Catfish John. The Jerry theme didn't end there, though as late night was provided by New Monsoon across town and Mike Kang showed up to sit in on a blistering 20 min After Midnight around 1am. They also did (Just Like) Tom Thumb's Blues in the first set, but they do that quite a bit, and nothing like the Dead arrangement. But I did notice they also played These Waves, one of the songs Kang co-wrote with Barlow. They never made any specific reference, but it was a cool, unexpected tribute. Thinking back on that extremely long night (and subsequent long drive to Birmingham, AL for the next night) exhausts me, but also reminds me how much I miss great live music, especially doing a run of shows...

Still finishing up 10/17 from the box, looking forward to full listen to 10/18 after spinning Light Into Ashes 1.5 times. Also looking forward to my first listen to 10/19.

Kreutzmann is out at the Red Rocks D&C show....

....non-covid related illness. Jay Lane sitting in.
Get well Billy.
Firing up 10.19.72.....now. I missed the anniversary of 10.18 yesterday, so I'll have to get back to that one another day.
Edit. You go get that asshole Carlo. I'll hold him down for you. I'll even bring my alligator. Painted yeller, of course. He wears Crocs though.

String of Live Shows

Couldn't make it to the Capitol Theatre this week.. but decided to stream last nights Phil show. It wasn't that much more to get the whole run so I took the plunge. So I'm seeing a string of live shows from my couch this week (and next).

I always thought what Phil did in NY around Halloween was pretty cool. I certainly hope things return somewhat to normal somewhat soon.. it's still a little weir'd out there.

MARYE

Marye
I've got a problem with one of the discs
PMs not working
I left a message for you on the 'got issues with your store order' a few days ago as no reply from dr rhino
Help needed
Thanks

CD Cover Scans?

If anyone has or knows where I can find scans of the individual CD covers for the box set shows, I would be grateful for the assistance.

Doc, another great write up yesterday. I listened to that show front to back last year from a decent soundboard. I threw some generic Dead artwork on it and gave it the apt title, "Enter Mr. Godchaux". It really was strange fortune that brought Keith to the band. He fit like a glove from the first. It's interesting - in October he plays Hammond on a song or two.

Repost re: Listen To The River Box: Cover Art Update

Hey Y'all, While I was in Dallas for Dead & Co my box arrived. I am back now, but will be leaving Thursday for D&Co's Fiddler's Green shows in Colorado (got shut out for Red Rocks) – not sure if I'll have time to scan and work on the cover art from this box before I leave, but I might. If you're not already receiving cover art scans from me and would like to, send me your email address and I'll add you to my list: jgs@archstglassinc.com

Sorry for the delay.

The music in this killer box is what we all come here for! Onward.

Lovin' this box

Seven great shows that are taking me back to my teenage years. I'm now wishing I was just a few years older at the time so I could have attended these shows AND be living in the greater St. Louis metro area at the time of these shows. The one thing I would change about this box is the colors used - I would use more vibrant colors on the outer slipcase, the inner storage box, and the CD sleeves. The essays and book are great and the extras in the envelope are cool too.
The best one is the bumper sticker.
By the way, I recently turned 15 years old in October by the time 12/09-10/1971 rolled around, with eyes wide open and taking it all in. Now I'm a jaded, somewhat cynical older guy.

P. S.: I cannot pass the CAPTCHA test. I am NOT a human visitor nor an automated electronic (or mechanical) spammer, nor a robot.

Thieves

Identity thieves
And
Catalytic converter thieves

CANING sounds lile a fitting punishment

St Louis Box

I'll give this box a 5 rating on sound quality and a 10 on performance. I did not think the Dead could blow me away anymore than they already have but Holy peepers, the music in this box, sans the first show, basically its a why bother performance , is tremendous. All the big time jams deliver, and are all over the top. Screw the Deads Heads taping Compendium that has "sleepy" reviews for the `73 shows, this music is a 10 people. Phil's bass solo on 10.18.72 is fantastic, love this so much. Too bad the sound quality is really disappointing overall. In the car the sound is fine, but on an audiophile home stereo system clearly the ravishes of time show up big time. Audience tape source splices are short and infrequent but man they are brutal beyond belief. Overall I'll say it's worth the money. The package is over blown and unnecessarily large but that's the way it goes these days. The art work on the cover is pretty decent, cool looking, better than the cartoon characters on Dave's Picks which have grown old years ago.

sonics

A couple of comments on other comments, as it were. Sonic qualities of this box set are interesting-- so variable by year. It makes sense and I suspect that if I went through the Dave's Picks releases in the same fashion (throw in a late 71 show, followed by a fall 72 and then a fall 73), I might notice the same sonic variances. There are some anomalies that I have picked up in some of my listening-- the 10/18/72 has a minor buzz through half of the show and the 10/30/73 show has a different undertone as well. No complaints, just something that exists in 50 year old recordings.

The 71 shows are LOUD and in your face. Nothing wrong with that-- I mean, Pigpen era goddamn Grateful Dead. BTW, I too loved that Other One seamless transition into Sitting on Top of the World (seamless transition by the band, but clearly a patch done). The 72 shows have Bobby high in the mix, but I like that, and to me they sound perfectly mixed. I got through half of 10/30/73 and noticed right away in Hear Comes Sunshine that it all sounds quieter. The mix seems to even out as the show progresses, though. Still, very different from the 1972 mix with Bobby more in the background.

Other thing-- thanks to Doc for all the reminders of 71 shows. That really was a stellar year. That Northrop show takes me back to my dorm room in 1988 listening to set 2 in the proper frame of mind. It was one of my first tapes and that Cryptical-Other One-Cryptical and the Wharf Rat-- sure did freak some of us out. So good.

Sound quality

Blah, blah blah, blah, blah blah blah ( thank you Dave and everyone for a fantastic job from show picks to great presentation of package and totally enjoyable Dead shows)

cover art BTW

There was another individual or 2 (besides JeffSmith) that takes a stab at scanning and perhaps gussying up the cover art, then shares. Their handles escape me at the moment, but I'd suggest to simply keep your eyes peeled and pay attention to these boards. :-)

Proudfoot

Did someone steal your Catalytic Converter and/or your identity? Hope not...

going on memory here

I think he's been a victim of catalytic converter theft twice!

..In my best Jerry Seinfeld "Newman" Voice

Bolo!

Kidding of course. Holy crap what a bummer. Those things are necessary and expensive, but they do work and make a difference on the quality of air we breathe.

I think I recall hearing about this now. I hate theft.. it just fucks up your mind and frankly the world.

me and my catalytic converters

my car: CC stolen once. replaced. Put a shield under the car, no theft since. $800 out of pocket. ouch.

wife's car: no theft of CC. Put a shield under the car, no theft since. $300 out of pocket. ouch.

son's car: CC stolen once; replaced; attempted CC theft; no shield put under car (I have no excuse). then CC stolen again last week. replacement to be done, shield to be placed. $1300 total out of pocket when all is said and done. OUCH plus an extra balls tap with a ball-peen hammer.

all three cars are.......white Priuses.

If you have a Prius, GET THE SHIELD PUT UNDER THE CAR.

and to all the CC thieves in the world: may you drown in raw sewage. after a good caning.

Prius woes...

It seems that the catalytic converters fitted to the Prius are popular everywhere. The only Prius in my street had it's CC stolen. Mercedes airbags are also popular here in the Netherlands. Even more annoying, torching random cars in the night has become a national pastime.

and all we Deadheads need is...

music (sweet music), some time to listen, and a little refreshment.

no theft required.

Blues Knight

VGuy, as I tuned in the Saint Paul, Minnesota soccer match, I noticed that the Blues are at your Knights tonight. Which show from the Saint Louis box will you have cranked while watching the hockey game? I've found that I enjoy sports much more with the sound off and the music cranked . . .

Sports sound off. Tunes on....

....yup. That's the way I roll as well brewer. We're already banged up, so we'll see. I'll probably finish the last '72 show. Only made it through the first set yesterday.

Ebrahim

DiMaggio
He'll
Odell ol
Deg rank
Helpful
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Quip

Just moving my finger over the keyboard

Carry on

Monsters are the patron saints of imperfection…..

50 years ago today…..

October 21, 1971
Auditorium Theater, Chicago, Illinois

Set 1: Truckin'-Loser-Beat It On Down The Line-Tennessee Jed-Playing In The Band-Big Railroad Blues-Jack Straw-Cumberland Blues-Comes A Time-Mexicali Blues-“The Frozen Logger”-Cold Rain And Snow-One More Saturday Night

Set 2: Casey Jones-Me And My Uncle-Dark Star>Sitting On Top Of The World>Dark Star>Me And Bobby McGee-Brown-Eyed Women-Ramble On Rose-Sugar Magnolia-Not Fade Away>Goin' Down The Road Feeling Bad>Not Fade Away

Encore: St. Stephen-Johnny B. Goode

Deadicated to kcollins1974, musicnow, estimating prof, The Good Ole Grateful Dead, proudfoot, outpost, hbob1995, gfink, brianhahne, and Oroborous, just because…….

The constant chatter and tuning up lends this show a fragmentary feeling. However, that being said, the opening Truckin’ sizzles, the new material sounds good, and there’s a Dark Star AND a Saint Stephen. What’s not to like about that? And who else but a logger stirs his coffee with his thumb?

The meat of the show was released as part of Dave’s Picks 3 in 2012, if you want to hear the potatoes as well, check out the very nice complete Miller remaster. Hard to believe it’s been nine years since the release. Frankly, when it first came out I didn’t give it much attention, but over the years both of the Chicago shows have, in my humble estimation, appreciated nicely………

Underrated, underappreciated, and recommended….

Rock on!!!

Doc
It is my meditation all the day, and more than my meat and drink, to know how I shall make the Saints of God comprehend the visions that roll like an overflowing surge before my mind…..

50 Years

Just to add to Doc's historical commentary - the Dark Star from DaP 3 was Keith's first. Sounds like he's played it 100 times. Now that Dave's Picks had some great bonus tracks. I don't think I've heard the potatoes from that show so I think I'll check it out today.

Here's what I paid for DaP 3 on eBay back in 2014:

8/20/14~Grateful Dead - Dave's Picks volume 3 - BRAND NEW - STILL SEALED 3 CD Set~$105.25

Is it me or does the opening Bertha on DaP 3 get cut off a few milliseconds?
Mine sounds like the tape cuts off the starting chord ever so slightly.

Some GOAT GOGD

Oh. My. Freeking. God. I'm sorry, but 10/18/72 really belongs on the short list of GOAT shows. Well, my list, anyway.

Been working my way through the StL box, and finally had a chance to sit (the fuck) down and (finally) really LISTEN to the 10/18 show. I figured it would be a good one, given that they had broken out the PITB>drums>DS>Dew>PITB sequence for release on vinyl. It does not disappoint. The first set is excellent, a nice Bird Song, a very rockin’ Railroad Blues. The closing numbers rock hard, too. But it’s really that middle sequence that puts it over the top for me.

Different people come to the Dead looking for different things. Some just want to rock, or just want a great set list full of favorite songs. Me, I’m more into space travel. I'm always looking for one of those great Dark Stars (or TOO or whatever) where the Dead do what only the Dead did.

With all due respect to ABB, or electric Miles, NOBODY else plays together the way the Dead do when they’re really ON, and man oh man are they ON during this 10/18/72 sequence. Really creative contributions from the whole band, several distinct ideas explored, different landscapes visited, the time/space continuum gets unraveled, and it's all wrapped up in a PITB sandwich. Yeah, they kinda flub the transition back to Playin, and the guitars are out of tune by the time they finish. They didn’t stick the landing. So fucking what. In my mind, this one is up there with Veneta and 5/26/72 in terms of the best shows of that amazing year, which means it’s up there with the best of anything.

If ya can’t dig me ya can’t dig nothin, do ya want the real thing or are you just bluffin?

crow told me

are _you_ a garbage man?

Probably not...'cause you know the GD

another GOAT show from this month is 10/28/72

when I heard that earlier this year...wooooooow

want the real thing?

The hottest thing from the North to come out of the South

When the Sun Goes Down and the Moon Comes Up

I turn into a teenage goo goo muck.

You go, Crow!

Hey, it's always good to hear one of us literally raving about the GD. Crow reminds me of that cat in the GD movie out in the lobby who is positively raving about the band and what makes it special.

I might remark that, on any given night, a select few bands could be the best in the world -- as Jimi once said, the greatest guitarist in the world is the person playing right now -- but if I said that, I'd be in fear of .....

WHAT THE CROW MIGHT TELL ME!!!!

I sure appreciate the verbal introduction to the box's '72 shows, Crow. Truly. Glad you got zapped by fall '72.

BTW, what the hell does GOAT stand for? I missed that.

GOAT Etc Etc

GOAT is one of those shorthand internet expressions the kids use these days, like LMFAO and AFAIK etc. It just stands for "greatest of all time."

Glad you enjoyed the rave review. I had fun writing it, but more fun listening to that show, especially that sequence on disc 2. Seriously, there are just moments in that Dark Star that are so ... beautiful, and so unique, I can't imagine any other band delivering anything like them. And the Dew that's at the center of it all is a really really good one. Can't wait to explore more of this box.

New ones comin as the old ones go, everything movin but much too slow.

Crow's Post

Just read it Crow. This afternoon I had time to listen to 10-17-72. All I could say was holy shit! A show with only PITB with a long jam sounded boring but it knocked me out! Now you got me droolin' for 10-18. Maybe tomorrow.....

10 19 1972

Jazzier, groovier, at moments quieter and more subtle than the night before. Siding more with '73 than '71. Standouts for me inclue Phil's lines during Jack Straw, Keith's mournful levity in Birdsong, the communal input of BIODTL, Billy getting a bit snazzy at the end of Rider, but it was the old-school landing for The Other One that was the eye popper. You'd think they were seriously about to head back into Cryptical (more accurately, coda for That's It For the Other One). Absolutely perfect. I know that's how they generally closed TOO back then but I don't recall it ever sounding quite like *that* before. And I suppose the big guy still needs to be mentioned. Lots of blues laden fret work throughout but his solo in Comes a Time is a standout amongst standouts. Not even that! A track that can hold its own. When it was his turn. A heartfelt nod to the City of Blues. What Bobby does in verse Jerry gets done through the twentieth century tradition of the six string.

(((10 18 1972? Yup! That second disc is the epicenter of the box!)))

FoxBox

Just finished 1971 and I read these stand out reviews of 1972. Both 71 shows were excellent, to me.. 12/10 gets the nod especially the second set. Love the "Did that actually just happen" comment on the segues. Yep.. that's it. Exactly. Wow.

10/17/72 is up next. Onward.

Don't eat stuff off the sidewalk - no matter how good it looks

The sound quality of the 71 shows does indeed knock the yellow box into a cocked hat, as someone pointed out last week. Amazing range of dynamics over the whole box - they definitley had more gears on their bike than most bands know exist.

Heaven finds an ear when sinners find a tongue…..

50 years ago today…..

October 22, 1971
Auditorium Theater, Chicago, Illinois

Set 1: Bertha-Me and My Uncle-Tennessee Jed-Jack Straw-Loser-Playing in the Band-Sugaree-Beat It On Down the Line-Black Peter-Mexicali Blues-Cold Rain and Snow-Me and Bobby McGee-Comes a Time-One More Saturday Night

Set 2: Ramble On Rose-Cumberland Blues-That's It for the Other One>Deal-Sugar Magnolia-Casey Jones-Johnny B. Goode

Deadicated to Gainesville, leedesj, drpryan, andoverdeadhead, estimated-eyes, fourwindsblow, Thin, JeffSmith, DeadVikes, and Mr. Ones, because why not?

As writers and readers, as sinners and citizens, our realism and our aesthetic sense make us wary of crediting the positive note……

No wariness here. This is a relatively unknown but very positive show. A show of apparent contrasts---a solid, fourteen song first set, followed by a seemingly short second set…..

However, with that being said, if you’d like to hear a really fine late 71 Other One, here you go!!

LOL, one of my October 71 guilty pleasures. The other, we’ll discuss on the 29th……….

Rock on!!!

Doc
Many of the insights of the saint stem from their experience as sinners…..

50 years ago, 1971

On October 22, 1971, I was 14 years old just about to turn 15 on the 27th. I was in 9th grade in junior high school in Bethlehem, PA. I heard Truckin' (album version) on WNEW-FM from New York City via an early FM cable hook-up my parents had at the time. Truckin was all I knew of the band, Grateful Dead.

Television entertainment that Friday night was The Brady Bunch (it didn't hold my interest too much) at 8:00 PM followed by The Partridge Family at 8:30 (which really held my interest at the time, because a musical performance was sometimes included) followed by Room 222 at 9:00 all on the ABC Television Network.

An alternative reality would put me in Chicago, Illinois, somewhere in the vicinity of the Auditorium Theatre and the Grateful Dead's show that night would have started of wth Truckin' before Bertha.
I have yet to listen to this how, but I will.
Thanks, Doc!

TV in 1971

I remember that lineup.. really puts you in a time and place.. back when the channels available equaled about the number of fingers you have on one hand.

Prime time TV in 1971, how on earth did you remember that and thanks for the trip down memory lane.

side note

that Garbageman song is extremely nasty, if you really think about it.

I mean, if you happen to be a Garbageman...well, whatever. I'll stick to the snackshack.

The Cramps give me the creeps.

Early '70s TV....

....as a young un, I used to really enjoy the Sid & Marty Krofft shows on Saturday mornings. Lidsville, Sigmund and The Sea Monsters, H.R. Pufinstuf, The Bugaloos etc.
Looking back, those were some pretty trippy shows.

The Cramps - Side Trips

Proudfoot - not everyone's cup of tea, thank the Lord. I first saw The Cramps by chance in 1981, shortly after seeing The Dead for the first time. Unlike with The Dead, I knew absolutley nothing about them before I saw them-I couldn't believe my luck. The came to England about once every two years after that, and I soaked it all up. They were singing my song alright -which might not say much for me, of course. To me they were easily the best band of the 1980s and 90s. Not to be really thought about, though, you either get it or you don't.
They also opened the door to real rock n' roll for me in all the interviews they gave. In England at that time rock n'roll was either a bit of a joke, what with Teddy Boys and all, or had been appropriated by "rock" bands. Through The Cramps I discovered the real deal from the 1950s. A never ending journey.

I still liked The Dead, though.

S&MK dosed a lot, I bet

HR "Puffinstuff"

look up Mr Show's take on Druggachusettes

more Cramps

Garbageman rocks real good

"one half hillbilly and one half punk"

they have some other good stuff

but they still give me the creeps

Cramps

They used to play the Warfield on Halloween in the 90s. Poison Ivy was quite a sight in her gold sparkle bikini and Grestch 6120!!

Slowly listening to the box set

10 17 72

Playin"

Wait for it....

"Oh yeaaaah!!!"

Re: Mr Show

Found it. That is hilarious...

Detroit turned out to be heaven…..

50 years ago today…..

October 23, 1971
Eastown Theater, Detroit, Michigan

Set 1: Bertha-Playing In The Band-Loser-Mexicali Blues-Sugaree-Jack Straw-Big Railroad Blues-El Paso-Ramble On Rose-Me And Bobby McGee-Cumberland Blues-Brokedown Palace-One More Saturday Night

Set 2: Casey Jones-Me And My Uncle-Tennessee Jed-Sugar Magnolia-Comes A Time-Truckin'-Brown-Eyed Women-Not Fade Away>Goin' Down The Road Feeling Bad>Not Fade Away

This is deadicated to Jay Carstens…..

“The word tonight is easy going, you know how it is………….”

And easy going it was. While there’s no “big jam”, it’s still a fine and enjoyable show. The new material is nicely on display, a very Bakersfield kind of show, relatively unknown and underappreciated, definitely worthy of a listen, and with no hint of what would be unleashed the following evening……

Rock on!!

Doc
…..but it also turned out to be hell……

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