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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

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February 22, 2023 - 3:51am

#1261

rockthing

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5/19/74 (Part II)

Wrote these notes on Monday morning while drinking my coffee and getting ready to do some work from home. After a while I was mostly distracted by the show.

I'll get to that Feb. 22 '69 show if I can, but I don't have that one handy. Hafta stream it.

The ETree identifier of this source is 115876, btw. I don't have the box set, so these are my first impressions.

It Must Have Been The Roses: Ok. /Now/ I'm awake. Possible tape change? There is suddenly a big improvement in sound quality for this hauntingly sensitive rendition. Jerry's voice is now clear above the guitars. Everything, save Phil, is suddenly much clearer and the sound field feels wider. Up to this point the tape had sounded like the tape the biker is listening to at the beginning of the Dead Movie. Nice harmony work during the refrain, blended well in the house mix.

Loose Lucy: Gettin' in the funk. Jerry's just perfectly behind the beat to make it nice and nasty. If the syncopation isn't just right, this tune can completely lose all form really quickly. Loose Lucy must be a pretty new song at this point. I have no idea when this tune debuted. They didn't do this in concert much, as far as I know. I was lucky enough to see'em do it once, but the performance I saw was almost unrecognizable. Something was wrong with the timing, so it sounded all backwards. I was embarrassed to not even recognize it until Jerry started singing. This is a nice treat.

I Know You Rider? Something seems to be wrong here. The info text says Money Money should be next followed by China/Rider, but we're just dropped into IKYR. Looks like some minor surgery might be needed on the meta data.

Money Money: Ok. Someone's just mislabelled these files. Man, this has always been one of my least favourite songs in the Dead's catalogue. I rarely skip songs on albums, but being the album closer on Mars Hotel makes it easy. I don't think I've ever heard a live version of it, so this is kind of a treat, in its own sort of way. Having not heard it in such a long time, I guess it's not such a bad song. The negativity of the lyric just sems to strike such a contrast to most of the other stuff in the repertoire. John Lennon, for example, has a lot of negativity in his lyrics, but when I listen to him, I expect that.

China Rider: Yeah. They're keepin' that funky groove going that was working so well during Loose Lucy. The transition jam seems to go almost immediately to an I Know You Rider feel. The guitar tone is very unusual here. It almost sounds like Bobby's Gibson 335 tone. He's playing lots of double-stops, where he plays two notes at a time even while soloing… wait… maybe that /was/ Bobby!? Some very cool interplay between Bobby and Phil before a guitar sound that is unmistakably Jerry joins in just ahead of the trademark unison bit before I Know You Rider. What is now clearly Jerry's tone keeps it going after the unison part, and now there's a Feelin' Groovy jam. I can almost see the smiling faces and twirling homemade sun dresses with flowers in the hair right now. Big, big ovation from the crowd as they settle into the Rider vamp before going into the first verse. They know what they've just heard. That was sweet, breezy, and smooth as can be. I'm guessing Jerry had some sort of equipment or other issue causing him to stop playing for a bit at the beginning of the transition. Oh, yeah, Jer, dig into that "On a north bound train" line. This and the out-of-place IKYR are going to get merged into one track when I get a chance.

Set II:
Promised Land: Yeah. Everybody's definitely up off their blankets now.

Bertha: Got a little "Yee Haw" from someone nearby for "All night pouring, but not a drop on me." It's quite amazing how inobtrusive the audience is, considering this was recorded with a handheld mic by someone just hanging out in crowd.

Greatest Story: Nice wah wah Jerry licks. Jerry's wah is so bubbly and has a rich swell, like the sound of a wave on the ocean. Using the rocking motion of the foot pedal definitely puts the player physically off balance, so I can understand why he seemed to abandon it later in favor of the Mutron "auto-wah" tone filter. Sounds so good here, though. Jerry's volume sounds cranked, though, totally drowning everything out. I ain't complaining. Oh, yeah. A little jam in GSET? They seem to have gone into something altogether different. I'm not sure if this is a set piece, but it feels unfamiliar to me. I know that I've heard occasional jams in Greatest Story, but they seem rare. This is definitely no longer the Greatest Story chord progression, but I don't know what it is, and then Wamp, Wamp-Wamp, right back into it. Now I'm gonna hafta start checking out Spring 1974 Greatest Stories. That was hot and adventurous, like maybe something went wrong and they fought through it… but maybe there was just a jam in this song back then.

Ship of Fools: Giving the manic dancers their first break of the second set. The taper is stopping the tape between songs, though, so who knows how long they spent tuning in between. Very nice harmony work from Bobby and Donna.

Weather Report: Seems a bit tentative in the earlier segments, but the Let It Grow jam is developing interestingly. The whole band just seems sort of in a gentle mood this night. Everything is soft and malleable, and most of all, creative, when they go off into improvised sections. The straight tunes are tight and, well, straightforward, but I'm hearing all sorts of novel ideas coming through during the instrumental segments. There seems to be a completely different confidence at work during this jazzy work out. You can hear Billy getting back to his swing roots and playing off Keith. This is fantastic. Such subtle interplay. Normally when I hear the full suite performed I wonder why they didn't continue to use the first parts, but in this case I didn't feel that way.

Peggy-O: Jerry's picking is quite aggressive, and his tone is very chimey, even behind his vocal. Relaxed tempo, even by Peggy-O standards. In this recording it sounds almost like Billy and Jerry doing a duet, but Keith adds some accents here and there.

??: What is this? A playful little jam and some quiet noodling where the audience's shouts and requests become more prominent. Bobby announces technical difficulties.

Truckin': Nice buildup, but not the major bomb drop I'm used to, and from there things start to get really weird. It's not spacy weird, just, "Whoa, what the heck is this?" weird. Some of the early 70s Truckin's could get totally abstract, so this is just the way they rolled back then. Great stuff. Gettin' that funky groove goin' from the first set again, even as the changes take on some jazzy influences. Bobby is very clear in the mix, and my oh, my it's gettin' Weir'ed. Jerry busts in with a burst of guitar feedback which seems to shock everyone for a moment, but they're still groovin'. This is the gold I look for in any show. It's funny because Mind Left Body actually sounds a lot like Loose Lucy. Billy and Phil getting' into a little funky-drummer exchange. Finally Phil breaks through in the mix with some space for him to hit that Bootsy one. In the info text "Jam" and "Mind Left Body Jam" had been listed separately, but they're actually all included in the Truckin' track, which is my preference. Cousinit made a real mess of this file set, but I can fix it. Rarely are there such glaring mistakes on the Archive, but this one has definitely been put together somewhat carelessly.

NFA: This interesting because I've been listening to a lot of Alligator era NFA's or Bean era NFA's, and that gives a nice context to compare to this Wolf tone… of course, there is a LOT of recording tech affecting the sound here, but even though there's a nice honk, everything seems so nice and round and gently muted. Hey. What's this breakdown in NFA. Pretty sure I've never heard that before… and GTRFB. THAT, was an interesting transition.

GTRFB: Nothing to worry about here. The old standby. Billy's hi-hat figure during the breakdown is, again, getting really funky with a swinging 16th note feel, or something. Very cool.

US Blues: Mars Hotel weighted setlist. What month did that come out? Good, tight version.

Johnny B. Goode: Full colosseum clap along for a high energy reading that does justice to the Check Berry original. Sometimes this can get a bit too languid. This one is rockin' hard.

On repeated listen, I've messed with the EQ some. First of all I bumped up the EQ preamp level, I dunno, about 10db, I guess. I then added a further 12db of 64Hz, and 125Hz on the 10 band EQ to bring Phil nicely into the mix, but also lowered almost everything else about 6db on frequencies that had been flat to make the bass frequency differential greater. The bass still isn't terribly defined, but it at least brings Phil into play. He was completely inaudible without EQ. Got just a touch more vocal by giving the 1KHz and 2KHz about 1db. The tape has a sort of nostalgic cheap car speaker sound, so I actually wanna preserve a bit of that… not that I could really get rid of it. There's quite a nice venue ambiance, especially when there is more space in the arrangements, like during the Mind Left Body Jam.

The vocal drop-outs others have mentioned were not audible to the audience.
February 22, 2023 - 3:28am

#1262

daverock

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2/22/69

That is a great show. According to the cd notes it was recorded, along with shows in late January and the Feb-March shows, for possible inclusion on Live Dead. It probably won't happen - the song lists are obviously very similar, but it would make a great box set to release all the shows recorded.
The shows from 1967-1971 inclusive are the main ones for me in 30 Trips.
February 22, 2023 - 1:16am

#1263

Forensicdoceleven

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You can't blame gravity for falling in love…..

Mornin’, rockers!!!

Pick Of The Day: Dream Bowl February 22, 1969

Relatively speaking, the yang to the yin of February 21, 1969. True art is characterized by an irresistible urge in the creative artist…..

I have the space, you have the time, let’s revisit. Officially released in October 2015 as part of Thirty Trips Around The Sun, one almost never hears about this show, possibly because it gets overshadowed by the blazing white hot glare of the Fillmore West Shows of February 27th to March 2nd. This is very much “of a kind” with those shows, featuring the typically sweet Mountains Of The Moon (always loved that song!), a long exploratory Dark Star, a fierce, crunchy Other One, a deathly Death Don’t, a fine Eleven, and a greasy Lovelight that clocks in at a mere 21+ minutes.

Great music, great sound quality, I suggest you find the time…..

The only reason for time is so that everything doesn't happen at once…..

Rock on,

Doc
There comes a time when the mind takes a higher plane of knowledge but can never prove how it got there…..
February 20, 2023 - 3:08pm

#1264

daverock

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Heads in Mississippi

That's good to read - they opened with Mississippi Half Step - Franklins Tower the first time I saw them 3/24/81. A great start to the show for sure.
February 20, 2023 - 1:11pm

#1265

PT Barnum

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5-19-74

In my experience, any show that starts off with Mississippi half-step uptown toodleloo is usually a great one and 5-19-74 is no exception. That pacific northwest box grows on ya, for sure.
February 20, 2023 - 12:53pm

#1266

daverock

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5/19/74

I haven't played it this year yet, but it has become one of my most played shows from this year - mainly because I bought it on vinyl. But it is really good, too. To me, it's better than its song list suggests - the songs leading up to the Truckin' jam are well played and forward moving, and that final jam is superb. It has been castigated in some quarters for the vocal drop outs. A price worth paying, in my opinion. All three 1974 shows in the box it was culled from are top notch.
February 20, 2023 - 12:24pm

#1267

DeadVikes

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Dave's 13 and 42

Hey Bluecrow, #13 is definitely in my top five. Love this show. Listen to it quite a bit. #42 hasn't resonated with me as much as #13, don't know why. How do you all feel?

I will throw out Dave's Picks #7, 4/24/78, for our old buddy That's Otis. I believe you are fan of this era. Hope all is well out there for you and the rest of the crew!
February 19, 2023 - 2:34am

#1268

rockthing

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5/19/74

I've got a beta-max transfer of 2/24/74... which stayed in heavy rotation for a long time when it first hit my library, but low and behold Portland 74 has collecting proverbial dust in the old hard disk, too. Time for something brand new (to me).

A Pat Lee master cassette passed down the generations.

It's a little hissy, and I'm not getting much Phil at the start, but Jerry and Bob's gutiars are crystal clear. Jerry's voice coming in a close second in the mix with some occasional Keith flourishes wafting to the fore. Billy's cymbals sound crisp, if somewhat thin. Getting a nice Jamaican dub sound when he switches to the highhat. Kick is in there, clear, but with with a soft tone, and none of the hyper-compressed abrasive contemporary festival sound. Donna's harmonies are on, and blended well with Jerry and Bob for the Across the Rio Grande-oh finale of Halfstep. Jerry plays an aggressive outro solo.

Mexicali: The mix and tape quality remain consistent. It's mostly a guitar oriented sound, but Bobby's voice is clear, if slightly too far back. Even in '74 they could do this one in their sleep. Have you ever heard a real train wreck during Mexicali? I can't recall one. A fan let's out a hoarse, "Whao!" apparently feeling the southwest polka vibes.

Big Railroad Blues. Love me some BRB. There are short pauses in the tape where Pat Lee is clearly well aware of the need to conserve footage. Could do with A LOT more Phil in the mix. Might fiddle with the EQ in a bit.

Black Throated Wind: Awkward song that I sometimes really like, and other times can do without.

Scarlet: Crowd gives Donna a big cheer as the song reaches it's finale. Of course they egged Bobby on with some of his crazy antics, too, but it's nice to hear that early 70s audiences appreciated her contributions.

Beat It On Down The Line: Always love this one. Nice double vocal from Bobby and Donna. Some unfortunate microphone feedback during Jerry's solo. Phil's backing vocals are there. The bass frequencies either never made it onto the cassette, or have evaporated through the generations of open reels and cassettes.

Tennessee Jed: Nice bounce to this laid-back rendition. Another one of my favorite tunes, as I've mentioned before. Another nice, appreciative response from the audience who are almost completely unnoticeable for the majority of the time.

Bobby McGee. I picture the audience mostly having a lie-down on the lawn during this first set. Just a nice day in the park with some live music in the background.

Ok, well, that's as far as I'll get in this sitting, but really looking forward to that big Truckin' jam at the end of the show. Now spoilers! 😉 Just kidding.
February 19, 2023 - 12:14am

#1269

rockthing

Joined:
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Woodstock

>DAVEROCK>

"It's about 37 minutes long, but it seems more like an hour when you watch it."

HAHAHA

I'll be on the lookout for that CCR set. John Fogerty strikes me a somewhat difficult man. Brilliant songwriter and producer, though. Never get tired of Cosmo's Factory, in particular. Gotta get reacquainted with the first album. I recall it being more psychedelic.

Got a trove of stuff to listen to after yesterday's catch up. Thanks!
Not sure where I'll start, but probably with something that already has ID tags. lol.
February 18, 2023 - 1:04pm

#1270

daverock

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Woodstock

There was a good cd of CCR's set that came out a couple of years ago. Apart from Hendrix, possibly my favourite set of the whole festival. "Lovelight" was included on a dvd as an extra, on one of the celebratory reissues of the festival. I don't think I'm being controversial when I say that it wasn't there finest hour. It's about 37 minutes long, but it seems more like an hour when you watch it.
The Dark Star, I've just remembered, was included in the 6 cd 40th anniversary release of Woodstock, too. That's okay. But it's not a show I would suggest as a contender for an official release.

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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

5/23/82 Greek Theatre

I was there. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I bet Cousins, Bolo, Marye, and many other folks on this forum were also there, having a blast. I wonder if Nappy was there, I saw a picture of him in a parrots costume at the Greek ,might have been 1982. Great fun.

Re:

Billy.. you're my brother from another mother. I wish I was there.. but I made it eventually and can say I peaked at the Greek. What a venue, my favorite by far.. I have to admit.. I am envious of all the shows you guys got to see that I did not, envious in a good way.

5/23/82

One of the all time greats IMO. Sunday afternoons at the Greek had a lot going for them.

5/23/82

Can’t be wrong with those kind of recommendations!
I think I’ll jump off the Doc train and do a 82 twofer today.
Thanks for the additional voices and good to see good ole Marye, especially since the poor girl must be exhausted from hand delivering all those boxes, AND now a new Dave’s .weren’t we going to set up a go fund me to at least get her an ebike? ; )

EDIT: Phil shows. For sure, I’ve been meaning to catch more. Hopefully I can check some more out later on?
Streamed the 3 Colorado shows as well as the last Capitol Quintet show. Good sheet Mon! Not familiar with this lineup, though hear Niki is awesome!

DBL Edit: wow, just finishing up 5/23. Funny thing is I caught this, actually the whole run, probably from the same good folks who recommended it, but I didn’t write anything down, and a, ahem, being memory challenged ahem, I often
Remember I saw, heard, read something, but will forget what happened. My other half gives me a hard time about it, but I hey, this way I get to enjoy it all over again!
Anyway, glad I hit it again, really good show, 82, it’s like the new 81!
So I’m guessing that was an Angel adding the Harley to drumz?
So bummed we never made it to the Greek, or Frost, or Ventura, or a hula Vista etc, etc to see the boys.
Fortunate to have at least made it to Cal X and the Garbage heap, and hit those, as well as Veneta, Irvine, Ventura, and Irvine working Furthur 96, which was cool, but added to the disappointment of not seeing the Dead there.
Oh, same with the rocks: saw many great “after” shows, but sigh, no Dead, idiot!
Ok, going to catch up with RT 4.4.

5/23/82

Yes, another great show and some of you were there, which is cool.

30 years of archival releases and not one Greek yet? We are due.

Happy Halloween 🎃

Greek

We did get a 68 Greek in 30 Trips. Hoping for me.. alas, the recordings for the one year I made the pilgrimage are not great.

This 82 sounds nice though.

Diggin 82!

Got both 5/33 and 4/6 in yesterday!
As I say, 82s the new 81 lol.
Thoroughly enjoyed both!

Hitting 10/29/71 now, which is resonating nicely.
Hoping to hear the full 10/31/71 later. Not sure I’ve ever heard the first set?
Happy Halloween to y’all, wish I had some candy for DP 2 later lol.

10/31/71

I didn't even think the first set existed.. I never looked once the Dick's Picks came out. How wrong I was.. I do seem to remember someone commenting that the first set was not in the vault, whether that's true or not who knows.

10/31/71 1st

Jim, that’s what I recall hearing too.
They didn’t have the first but the 2nd, well, sure most have read Dicks feelings on the 2nd so…

The 10/29/71 shows was a standout for me. Really dug that one.
Going out of sequence to do 10/31 today. Will hit 10/30 asap…

10/31/71

Sounds good to me. I will get it going soon, as the trick or treaters hit my door.

At some point I would love to know about the Dats provided by Rob Eaton and David Gans.

10/31/71

Really good show. I enjoyed it. Great first set. Deal, Loser, BRB, El Paso, Cumberland! Fantastic. Start the second set with a groovy Dark Star, nice St. Stephen, great finish. Thanks for the pick on this one.

10/31/71

It was Booooooo T ful!

A Promise

After I finish the fox/st. louis box and Deer Creek, I promise to get back on track with the pick of the day.

Plus.. it's been raining here pretty much non-stop as far as I can remember.. so I started to build an ark. Now I need to fill it with two of each strain before the heavens open up and the shit really starts to hit the fan.

Wake of the flood

Hang in there and stay dry buddy!
I’m in the same boat (pun intended), just too much going on and not getting any tunes in at work.
Except that damn oompah accordion music these boys dig lol.
Also trying to get to all the 71s, slow but steady when I do get a chance.
Definitely will be back onboard if/when life allows!

Dave's #40

Did you get your #40 Jim? I think OB got his yesterday??

Mine is scheduled for Saturday November 6. Not sure why, but the pattern continues.

I am ready for new picks or repeats whenever you all are.

Oh and don't forget to pick up your Dark Star hoodie!

there were days and there were days

stopping in to say hello to all the POTD friends - Hi everyone (been "busy")

def need to revisit DiP 2. As for that '82 thang Oro, look no further than DiP #32 Alpine 8/7/82 - I was "there" back then plus on a late night revisit a few weeks ago with the whole sound space open, a thing of beauty, what a gorgeous night. And that next night was out of this world.

picked up the discs from Dead&Co from shows I saw at Wrigley this past Sept and that's where my head and ears are at right now - night 2 and really digging Mayer's sound,

haven't had proper time for Listen to the River yet. Dave's 40 #23534 showed up yesterday and in the long queue

was playing a lot of Stepping Out in the truck. I always thought that Big Railroad from Skull and Roses was the "one" but I will say that the Big Railroad on Stepping has a groove, especially Jerry's guitar leads, that is also just exactly perfect.

sorta wigs me out in these plague times when some regular folks don't check in for awhile - comprende GOGD and Strider??!!

and once again - one of my "for the faithful" POTDs is 7/16/72 Dillon with the raw audience up front e.g. Cold Rain & Snow

7/16/72

Hey Bluecrow,

Yes, that show sounds good to me. I was actually looking at the show a couple of days ago.

And add Bolo to your list as well.

I gave it a go Bluecrow, a little rough around the edges for me.

7/16/72

yea its a pretty raw upfront, but the energy really captured me despite that. It's a show that would definitely benefit from some newly found reels. glad you gave it a shot - not really expecting anyone to rave about the audio for the audience portion but I think its your usual well played '72 show - a diamond in the rough.

Anniversary hat trick

11-4,5,6-77

11-2-77% has been playing in my car since Tuesday. That should end today, then I’ll start the 4th and play the 5th and 6th this weekend in the house.

2-6/11/77

Coincidentally, ( or maybe not, it being the anniversary) I decided to give these shows a listen too. It must be a good few years since I played any of them, and I am well impressed. Very high energy-Jerry really standing out with that great sharp as a knife tone. The dynamics are so different for the pre 1975 years - more straight between the eyes, with the up tempo tracks coming off really well. Great guitar work on Estimated, and Lazy Lightning/Supplication too, though, which are more up in the air. This is 11/2 I am talking about, by the way.

Been a While

Since I have listened to these shows too.. might have to fit that in.

When I finish digesting the box and #40 I planned to toss up a few neglected official releases myself, looks like you beat me to it. Dave's Picks 25 anyone? It's old enough we can call it a vintage release already.. where did the time go?

Dave's 25

This is one of my favorites. I am in.
Just love the half step opener and the rest of the show. Even the funky Scarlet Fire.

Peaceful, isnt it.

I agree with everything that hasn't been posted on here in the last 4 days.

Caught up

With the Doc train through 11/11/71. I’ll try to hit 11/12, 11/14, and 11/15 this WE.
Virginal Dave’s 40 completed too!
Now if only I could sneak a show or 2in during work!

71

Hey OB, 11/15/71 or RT3. 2 is a five star show. The sound quality on this release is one of the best 71 shows I have heard. I will definitely put this one on the list this week. The bonus disc form 11/14 is also great.

Just got my #40 and still working my way through it. Loving it so far.

You can tell who is the captain of this ship.

Ship of fools

Glad you received 40 DV, play it loud and proud brother!
Yep, looking forward to the RT this WE.

Time for a Pick?

Thought it would be fun to check out 3/19/90 Hartford. How does it stack up against our new #40? I think the last two years Dave is really releasing nostalgia picks, which is okay. He is the Captain. So, how about some 1988? At long last release the 89 Alpine shows.
It will be interesting to see what he does for #42. Will he continue the pattern of a 74/73/69/70 shows? Will he break the mold and completely surprise us with a 79 or 80 release?
I don't know, I don't think it will be 73/74.

I received an Email from Dave, I think yesterday. Did you guys get it?

Are you still out there Jim?

Re: Hartford

Yes, I am still here.. Hartford sounds good and I have just finished a full decent listen of Dave's Picks 40 so there is some synergy there.

I really enjoyed Deer Creek. Very good sound for a two track, the credits Healy as the person who recorded it, but it's a big step up from the Ultra Matrix days. Most are siding on the second night being a stronger, more even performance. I guess I agree with this, the second set is very strong. I like the powerhouse opening for The Other One too.. Phil just thunders it almost from out of nowhere, then into a calming end of the world crescendo in Morning Dew. Perhaps I will comment on the 40 thread but the first night speaks to me.

Moving right along, there is another show that caught my attention last week that I want to hit. It's a new one for me. 1982-04-12 Nassau Coliseum. Not sure why this caught my eye, but I think it's worth hitting. After Hartford?

Then I do want to hit a few released shows that are both spectacular and have fallen out of my rotation. There are so many of these.. and I like to take care of my orphaned stepchildren.

I hope all are doing well in this mad, mad world we live in. I am very grateful for the escape and entertainment mechanism that is music, more specifically Grateful Dead music.

Be good all. Play Dead.

Aces back to back

You go DV!
Glad y’all digging 40!
Harshferd and 4/12/82 sound good. I’ll try and mix those in with the big Doc fest this WE!

Buurrrrrrrr, 23 this AM, no bueno!
It’s funny how your feelings on winter are influenced by whether you go up the mountain or not.
When I still did, it couldn’t snow enough, now…not so much lol.

4/12/82

Perfect, I will hit this one up tomorrow. Thanks for the pick Jim.
Yes, #40 is great. Best Desolation Row?? I don't know. I always thought the 89 Alpine version was pretty damn good as well.
Yes, back to reality here in MN as well OB, snow moving in tomorrow.

Desolation Row

The '89 Alpine version is the pillar that all the others rest upon. It's flawless.

Alpine Desolation

It’s the extra emphasis that Jerry throws in on the vocals, on top of an already well played song.

Alpine ‘89 CD/BluRay Box time Dave.

3/19/90

I do really like #40. Two great shows.
It was interesting to then go back to 3/19/90. Wow! This is a fantastic show. Great first set and love that second set with the Box of Rain, Foolish Heart, Playing into Eyes. Nice finish and you get a Brokedown Palace encore.
So, this show and the rest of the first box used the Cutler two track down mixes from the 24 track recordings. I think these were also used in Dozin at the Knick as well. They sound great to me. The sound is so full. I would like to know how this down mixes work? Does anyone know? They are definitely a different beast.

Okay,on to 82.

Downmix

Just like any multitrack album or recording.
The studio engineer mixes, adjusts etc, the individual channels to get the right blend/levels between all the different channels (instruments, vocals, effects etc) and routes, pans or positions those individual channels in a stereo mix. Like JG coming more out of the right speaker and Bob outta the left for example. These signals are then routed to the final main stereo output of the mixing board, where the main output levels are set and recorded on a stereo or 2 channel device: tape, HD etc.
The studio mix is where individual eq adjustments, effects etc are done.

This final mix is then sent to the Mastering engineer who sweetens the overall sound or sometimes adjusts the overall eq so it will sound best on the physical product. LPs usually have specific eq curves applied to compensate and maximize sound for that format. If the studio mix was done very well, the mastering can be relatively simple, but often there is much more happening in mastering than people realize. All of this is truly art.

Downmix

Appreciate the information on this process, Oroborous. That makes sense. I guess that explains why they were able to use Cutler's downmixes. They were that good. Recorded and mixed live by Cutler.

Loving 4/12/82. Still working my way through it. Good call Jim.

Edit. Finished it. Five dancing bears. Great sounding recording, even the last two songs that are audience patches sound good.
Start the show with an Iko Iko and finish with Satisfaction. Great Peggy O, Birdsong, Sugaree, Stella. Man, you would have to think this show is a contender to be released if Dave ever releases any more 82 shows.

Throwing one out for today....

....how about 5.7.78. Troy, Ny??

5/7/78

Yes, that sounds like a winner to me. Never listened to this show, so I will get it going. Thanks for the pick Vguy.

Nice

I’ve always wondered about 5/7/78?
My cousin was going to RPI at the time. Now I’d normally doubt he would have gone to the Dead as he’s pretty conservative, (believe he was into the Boss then?) but hey it was collage and he was young so who knows?
I’ve always ment to ask him but rarely talk to him so I forget.

VGUY always finds nice off the path picks!

But first I’m currently spinning 4/12/82, which is nice. Brent laying some sweet jazz pi-an-ner down on this Bird Song as I eat my Bfast to a glorious Rocky Mountain morning.

Hit 11/12/71 on the Doc train last night. Short but sweet!
Then Tried to get 3/19/90 in. Does it count if you slept through half of it lol.
90, that is a year I truly need to dig deeper. Perhaps my biggest year and yet I’ve only been aquatinted with it.
Need to get nekked and roll around in the mud with her!

Ok, the list is getting daunting, hup hup.
4/12/82 spinning currently
5/7/78
11/14/71
11/15/71
and need to get back to St Louie, Louie!
Didn’t get much time with the 73 shows…..
Oh, and still have ideas Bluecrow and others contributed back aways that we never hit.

5/7

New one for me, I will queue it up.

I really enjoyed the last two picks.. 3/19/90 is rock solid and 4/12 was an interesting show. Perhaps one day we will have to hit Providence a couple nights later.

So where are we today? ah...5/7/78. And the beat marches on.

DHB HT!

Ssssssscccoooooooorrrrrrreeeesssss!!
4/12/82 enjoyed
5/7/78 preoccupied working in the garage, but solid spring 78 if not more? Really have to ask my cousin now lol.
11/14/71 had never heard the first set so streamed that, now cranking the RT 3.2 Bonus, yowsa! Can’t wait to hit 11/15 mañana! Perhaps a St Louie 73 and ??
Onward!

Ahhh

The elusive DHBHT. I take it you slept well last night.. might even wake up a bit sore.. What most people do not realize is how much training and deadication it takes to prepare yourself for a such a major accomplishment.

With a little training one can finish the Boston Marathon in a little over four hours. At best, a DHBHT takes almost twice that.

Good work, take the rest of the week off.

Don’t try this at home kids!

Time off, blasphemy!
The other half is working again today so though I’m getting a late start, I think I’ve got at least 2 in the tank, and at least the possibility of another DHB. Hey, have to get my fill on the weekends since no tunes at work lately : (
Probably try for 11/15/71, something suggested by BLUCROW, perhaps 9/25/81? from a few weeks ago, and then perhaps 10/29/73 as I’ve only hit the 73 Louie’s like once or twice, but in the blur of the overall box.
Onward!

Nice Work Oroborous

Man, I can't keep up with you. Nice work.
5/7/78, another good May show. Thanks Vguy.

Yes, I am in on 11/15/71, RT3. 2. What a show.

Only 2

Didn’t get the third one in yesterday. Was running outta time since I still had to watch Football, speaking of, GO VIKS! Lol Also was getting a little burnt after 7 shows this WE, needed a little Jazz.
Did enjoy Bluecrows suggestion of 9/25/81, another nice, long, solid 81. Think I’d still give tge nod to the next night, but I’m biased on that one. And of course the glory of 11/15/71. I know DV likes the sound of this one but I still hear parts that are oversaturated. Not like Dave’s 38, but it doesn’t sound as nice as the St Louie box 71s, to me anyway…
Curious DV, is your copy a GDP or aReal Gone? The one on my server is ripped from an original GDP, I have a Real Gone version still in the rapper, but didn’t think it was worth redoing etc?
I was going to hit 11/17/71 on the iPad at work, but remembered that’s a Dave’s, so I’ll have to wait fir a chance on the stereo.
Maybe I’ll hit1/18/78 off of Dave’s possible list?

11/15/71

Oroborous, I have the grateful dead productions release that I bought this year with the bonus disc after a kind soul on this site sent me an electronic copy and I was blown away. Had to have the original physical copy.
Listened again today and it is just crackling with energy and the sound quality to my ears is A++. I put this one up there with the three February Port Chester shows, as far as my favorites of the year.

Yes, hey the good old Vikes won one on the road. Look out.

Edit. 9/25/81, haven't heard this but you should read Miller's notes on this show. I cracked up. I won't ruin it for you.

Ok..

After briefly being caught up, I am behind again. It's 11/15/71 for me today. I have a bit of a drive, which is perfect...

I did finish both DaP 40 and the St. Louis Box.. but I admit I need to give the two Kiel shows another spin. In fact, I don't think this box will begin to collect dust just yet..

Then hopefully.. I will become a more active participant again. I have a bit of work to do, then a small adventure of sorts, followed by a few hour drive and 11/15 will get it's time in the sun. We are approaching mid week.. hope everyone is keeping on keeping on..

No DHBHT for me today, but I am content with what I have. Be good all.

Me Too Jim

Life is such that it’s not a great time for lots of music. So trying to binge out on the WE.
All goood, just that time of year here, GO Time! But it affords an opportunity to cleanse etc.
hoping with the new year things will settle back. Hoping they’ll let me sit out at least part of the winter which means daily home binging lol.

Plus, though I’ve enjoyed riding the 71 Doc train, it will free up more listening time. And no, I’m not going to try for all of 72 next year lol.
I made it through first set yesterday of 1/18/78 off of Dave’s “list”. It was good but not so sure it’s one I’d hope for a release, which means he will lol. JG sounds pretty froggy still, which is weird as the next night I think I recall he doesn’t sound too bad? So going to finish 1/18, then?
DV: it’s not the overall sound that distorts? I specifically remember in SSDD or Sugar Mags when they get loud. Could be just the amps distorting etc, but I think the tape maybe over saturates a little on some if the peaks also?
Glad you don’t experience it! Somewhat common for those days.

Spent last weekend out in the Henrys - first time camping since out there last Spring. It was real good.

Be well everyone.