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    Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

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    I agree with you about 12/3/79. I think 2/17/79 and 4/22/79 are way better shows , from a performance standpoint and also a recording standpoint. I have great sounding recordings of both shows, so I'm sure Dave and Co. have much better sounding copies then me.

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    ....to quote Toy Story, "you got a friend in me."

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    Huge fan of the late fall tour of 1979.
    That said it is the one of the worst shows
    to respresent this period. It confirms my
    theory that they throw a dog in the subscription
    each year that would NEVER sell as a stand alone
    release - all part of the 25 year plan. The shows from
    Cleveland and Pittsburgh would make a nice box.
    San Diego, Indianapolis, St Louis or Kansas City are
    all superior.

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    I tried to give this another listen but didn't get very far. For me, Bob's guitar is just too low. You can barely hear him even in the Supplication (ouch!). Is it really Grateful Dead music if Weir's guitar is missing? The jamming sounds almost like the JGB, since Jerry and Brent's organ are so dominant. It's a shame because I really fell in love with Dick's 5 recently and want to hear more fall 79. I listened to a few fall 79 shows on the archive and it seems a lot of them have the same problem (Weir's guitar too low). The audience tapes aren't much better, so I guess it is not a soundboard source issue.

    other than that.... I must say from what little I've heard, it sounds like kind of a hot show. I mean, Jerry sounds inspired. Very frustrating!

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    Sorry to hear about your loss. Thank heavens we have the music.

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    Otis, wait till Otis sees use, he loves us. I am still waiting for someone to identify this line.

    So, it is always good to revisit shows you haven't listened to in a while. I am big fan of the Brent era. The first set is good, I remember being excited for the rest of the show and than... The Scarlet Fire is good, but seems to lack energy. Same with the Terrapin. I think someone mentioned last year they thought maybe Jerry took a quaalude at the set break?? Who knows. Disc 3 seems to pick up the pace to the finish.

    Interested in what you all think?

    Other 79 releases have been rather hot like RT 3.1 and 1.1 and of course Dick's 5.

    I think we will see some more Brent in Dave's 35.

    Be well folks!

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    Sorry to hear about the loss of your friend Jim. The times are tough. Stay strong and be well!

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    I'm sorry about the loss of your friend, music can certainly help at times like this.

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    The good people here make it all work, and no slight meant to anyone.. BobT, Willfred, 80s, VGuy, everyone.. but hats off to Oroborous, Strider and Nicecat for 'mostly' remembering shit from so many years ago my brain has to do math to figure it out. I know I harmlessly forgot dozens in this post, hopefully they will forgive me.

    I had a really good friend pass yesterday morning from Pancreatic Cancer. I kayaked with him less then 3 weeks ago two class IV+ V- local runs.. mid way through the next week he wasn't feeling well and checked himself into the ER and the diagnosis was terminal. You have to think.. if we weren't deep into covid, perhaps there would have been more preventive screenings, etc. A casualty of the times.. but I digress. So before I knew he had passed, his wife sent us this Caring Bridge link where people write into a journal that the family can read to the patient, etc.. and I think more or less just as he was passing I posted something that was meaningful to me and hopefully him.. ending with May The Four Winds Blow You Safely Home. So after writing I decided to revisit Jai Alai on my bike ride.. just as I climbed the hill out of the canyon and the endorphins begin to kick in from climbing a big ass hill on a bike, the Cumberland El Paso To Lay Me Down sequence came on.. and I had forgotten (sort of) about the how good the To Lay Me Down was. Right song, right time.. and so it ends.

    Anyway.. I know I am saying something all of us have inside us.. but the music is almost as important in getting me through stuff as my own mind and instincts are, the music is sort of tapestry of life.. fabric.

    Moment over, timely songs and memorable moments. It certainly has helped carry me through, perhaps all of us.

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    Great little show.

    Merriweather was sort of like the outdoor Hampton on the North side of DC instead of the South. Attractive venue, usually welcoming to the crowd and all that went with it (until they weren't anymore), held about the same number of people (probably a little more if they packed the lawn, which they did) and had a lot of overlap in the crowd that attended. The band also had an easy in and easy out. Plus.. they were doing these multi-show stints for several years in a row just when momentum was beginning to build and the setting of both venues was sort of idealistic in this regard. Merriweather would let you camp in the lot, and when things got really crazy, people started setting up tents in the open field under the power lines just outside the reach of the parking lot (and for the most part outside the reach of where the cops really wanted to patrol). Once you were in, everything was there and you were fine for the weekend.

    I think the shows at both venues had a similar vibe.. it was a safe place for the band and heads in the early to mid 80's and the shows reflect this. Lots of fun, and yes.. that is a great shakedown. I think 85 gets the most love because the tapes sound better than the earlier years. 83 and 84 were strong years for Merriweather.. but the tapes are just not strong and crisp and don't seem to reflect what it sounded like inside. Guess that's mostly true for the whole decade.

    Still great time.. used to walk to those shows from my folks house, by 85 people were camping in the back yard.

    Looks like Jerry was wearing his red t for this show.. What good times.
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Good to hear from you Bluecrow.

Under the radar is right.

I like this show, short, great sounding Bear recording.

Nice China Rider to Start, bummer that Dire Wolf was cut. What a finish with the full Other One suite-Dark Star St. Stephen into Lovelight. Fantastic. You can definitely hear the difference with TC in the mix

Interested in what you all think.

Looking back at it, I think 2016 was an interesting year of releases, very unique.

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Howdy BC!
Nice to see ya!

1/23/70, another neglected beauty!
Wanted it so bad I actually forked over on the black market (and worth it!)
Haven’t heard recently or enough! Good call!
So tonight I’ll need to try and squeeze 11/17/71 and 1/23/70, and what ever else I’m delinquent on…

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Good to see you too Senator!

Been so long this is like random arrival of a new primal DaP in the mail.

Really really fine stuff. Yes, nice call DV!

...to 1/23/70 and the little scooby snack from 1/24 just because. This one's a sleeper and a keeper. Perhaps it slithers under the radar due to 2/13 and 2/14 Fillmore East and the May shows at the same venue, but it's got everything going for it. A great recording, a big jam sequence, some rarities and high octane rock and roll. It's got an odd little set list and not quite the momentum you often see with the first set, second set structure but it's a powerhouse and a great release. That's Your Groove is right. Love 1970 GD

Thanks DVikes.

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1/18/78 ? Ok, not sure I see this as a pick but it’s on his “possible” list.
11/17/71✔️ Man what a year, they just keep getting better and better.
11/20/71✔️Digging the TOO weirdness and jams that are starting to become common again.
1/23/70✔️
Gonna hit that 1/24/70 today and???

Jim pretty much hit the nail on the head about 1/23/70. Yeah I really like that one! Good call!
Worth black market purchase!

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Really enjoyed CD 1 from Dicks 30. Just picked that up from Real Gone.
Going to wait until I have time to do full 3/28/72 though.
Maybe I’ll hit some Louie 73 later?

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I am definitely up for a pick. Let me know the verdict OB.

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Hit 1/24/70 fer a tasty snack, onto 10/29/73!
But if you need something later, I still have a list of BC and others suggestions?
This week while on doc train layover might look at some of Dave’s “list” again.

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Sounds good man.

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I started on the new box today too.. hitting my second listen. I finished 12/9/71 and on to 12/10. Yummi.

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Indeed. So far the 71s have been the wild card/standouts, they sound sooooo good!
10/29 besides the sweet psychedelic TOO hasn’t fully resonated yet. Of course it’s neighbor is hard to complete with.

Hey GO VIKS!
Feck off AR!
Hey man I needed something to make up for Bu fa fa lows embarrassment.
Still feel kinda qweezy KOONTS!

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Yes, it is always amazing when they pull one off against the hated Packers.. It was a great game. Sorry about those Bills OB.

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Picked from Dave’s possible list while I work.

I’m worried Bills are done. Tuff road ahead…

EDIT: nice little show. Only heard while working and on a iPad so can’t say wether it’s a keeper, but I enjoyed it.

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I had that on cassette in mid-90’s. I listened to it a lot. May have been the best sounding 84 I had at the time.

I’m currently listening to 6-14-84, which I don’t think that I ever had on cassette.

Started playing 1-23-70 in the car this morning. That should get me through this week’s commute.

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Alright, I will be checking this show out tomorrow. Looks like kind of a historic show. Looking forward to it. Thanks Oroborous.

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Just reading this. I'm intrigued and definitely hitting this tomorrow.

From a guy named Steve on setlists.net:
"This was probably the best show in the 6 night run. Great Smokestack jam in the 1st set. First performance of Gimme Some Lovin' (I think)."

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Always good to listen to shows you have never heard. Good show. What happened during El Paso? Couldn't figure out if it was something with the recording or Bob not remembering the words. Either way, it was different. Last Lost Sailor. I always really liked the Lost Sailor SOC pairing. Especially loved Phil's work in Lost Sailor. Nice Iko Iko and first GSL. HSF is good. Garcia is not in top shape at this point, but the show is still good and worth a listen. Thanks Oroborous.

Makes me want it listen to more Lost Sailor SOC.

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Busy doing my 30 DOD and saw the last Lost Sailor was 3-24-86. It had never occurred to me that Sailor/Saint had been separated at that point with Sailor being tossed overboard as it were. It had some cool chord changes.
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I was there. It's one of my personal favorites. The looks on Phil and Brent's faces as they unveiled Gimme Some Lovin' were lovely.
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Thanks IstShow. More proof you can't believe everything you read. The show notes from the archive mention it was the last Lost Sailor. Hopefully they got the first GSL right.

Another good show for Marye in Berkeley. Must have been fun.

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Best of Arlo Guthrie featuring Alice’s Restaurant!

Hope y’all have an enjoyable holiday!

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It's a bit bittersweet.. I last saw Arlo on his 50th anniv or Alice's Restaurant in I guess 2018. He recently announced his retirement from touring.

I have seen him and his (I think) daughter and perhaps grandchildren perform many times over the last 35+ years. It was always a privilege. Small venues, festivals at local fairgrounds, reasonably priced tickets and good fun. Bittersweet. Emphasis on the sweet.

Happy thanksgiving all..

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I've been listening to Ace recently through a new headphone/amp setup and really connected with aspects I never tuned into before. Such an important album in the GD cannon. The horn and string arrangements are amazing! I wish there could be a remastered 50th Anniversary of this on Vinyl would be incredible as well as other formats. Please remaster this gem Bob and awaken all the tracks to modern possibilities! Thanks for such such a gem!

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Hope you all had a good one. We have been traveling, but was still able to listen to 2/18/71. That Dark Star Wharf Rat Dark Star is still some of the best music I have ever heard.

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I'm in. I have an itch to revisit some of the official releases where I only have one listen post Normification. This is one of those releases.

We had a big family health scare this week. Several of us, me included, had an unexpected adverse reaction to an unknown chemical, perhaps tryptophan that set off a complex chain reaction ending in a full-blown, dangerous food coma. It was touch and go for a while.. we were drifting in and out of consciousness accompanied by extreme loss of focus.. uncontrollable drooling, slam snoring.. then miraculously.. we pulled out of it relatively unscaithed. Food comas are very dangerous and often occur this time of the year. There is a high potential for relapse almost one month to the day later. Be safe folks.. play dead.

Edit: Amazing and a great recording. I am going to expand this to all the remastered released shows from this run.. so 2/18, 2/19 and 2/21. I think that's it so far, correct?

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Glad you made it through Jim.
Interested in your thoughts on 2/18/71. I can't get enough of it. All three officially released Port Chester shows are so good. I guess they need to still release the last one left?

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and a Anchor Holiday Beer IV drip…
Phew, things were touch and go there!

Managed to squeeze an extra day at home, so trying to reintegrate “normal” activities.
Including first shows in a week!
12/1/71 and 12/2/71. Recordings are varied, but more tight shows, with Pig back slinging grease, including a rare Smokestack! Looking forward to hittin’ the whole Felt run as I’ve not heard all.
Ok, need to get out for a walk while it’s still so nice.

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I was in Dane County and the Chicago area over the Thanksgiving weekend. Man, it is great to get out of your home base and see and experience other areas.

Can't remember if we ever hit this show but I saw it was yesterday's 30 Days and thought it would be a good idea. 11/23/73. El Paso.

Hope you all can check it out.

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Dooaahh, just catching this now, sorta.
Spinning 11/23/73, which I won’t finish because of late start.
Will definitely finish asap as this is one of about only a half dozen from this tour I’ve not heard until now.
Through Rider, so far just another fine fall 73…

Did hit 12/4&5/71 earlier. Boy you can tell they like playing NY lol.
Still scratching my head about why Dave didn’t go with 12/5?
Going to hit those this WE.

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Definitely worth a listen if you have never heard this. Great sounding recording. Not perfect, but not your old dusty cassettes either. Solid A- for the recording. Performance A.

Oroborous, I am definitely going to hit up 12/5/71 this week, really good show.
Another one worthy of an official release at some point.

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Golly Gee Nov 73.. I'm still wrapping up my three night run at Portchester. Adding it to my Q. I haven't listened to this one in a few years.

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Hey Jim, at least those Port Chester shows are short. Interested in your thoughts on the three.

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Got an empty job site with tunes!
So hitting 11/23/73 from the start.
Sorry DV, no Port Chester at this time as I’m
A) still trying to hit all the 71 shows, and
B) getting a little burnt on 71 lol, so not ready to rehash YET!
But I did really dig those. Funny thing, I was not enthused about FTV III, until I got past my hang ups and dove into this 71 challenge. Now, it’s one of my year favs and definitely my fav of the run. Just that Smokestack alone does it for me!
Think I liked 2/21 next, then the 18th? Can’t remember my other preferences as I don’t have my Deadbase?
Great run of shows, but I can understand why they didn’t do a box since their not quite fully formed or as tight as they’d soon be. Meant, I think strong arguments could be made for other things being more a priority and with only one box a year it is valuable real estate, so might not have got as much love as needed?
I think he chose right doling them out separately?
I’m sure he’ll dole more out eventually.
Personally I’m good with 71 for now only because we’ve had several solid 71s the last few years.
But there most definitely more 71shows I’d like to see, eventually…

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Nice, I am sure you are digging the freedom. You have been a stalwart with Doc's 71 tour. Those Port Chester shows are all great. I still have 2/18 at the top of my list, just for that Dark Star, WR, Dark Star. It is unreal.

I still have 12/5/71 in the que for this week. I got side tracked with 10/9/80. Which has a recent Miller transfer from this year.

Would love to see Rhino put out some type of release in December to tie us over until February.

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never straight!

So, I know we’re fumbling around in 71 goodness, but do we want to throw something else in the mix for today and this WE?
Imma gonna hit Daves 22? 12/6&7/71 this WE, but how bout 12/8/73 if you want to stay in that neighborhood or perhaps 10/14/80 off of Dave’s “list”? since DVs been digging fall 80?
Shit this would have been a good time for one of BCs picks but the list is at home?

Yeah, seems like I remember lol, sure I do lol, that they used to work the holiday shopping season more BITD?
Seems like a quick one off or something to boost holiday numbers would make sense, AND feed our insatiable jones lol!

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Going with 12/8/73 then…

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been a long long time but i seem to remember that wide-eyed bit of stage "talk" from a fan at 12/8/73. soon, soon.

mid-morning I had the need for an Eyes ca. '73 / '74, First one that fell in my hands was Selland 7/19/74 DaP Disc 3, floating free out of its Digi in a slim case. My freaking heck did that disc 3 sound good!!

2/18/71 - beautiful show, best of the run. Dark Hollow early on and all the others. (edit: oh wait - Dark Hollow is from 2/19, now I'm all confused. "I Like it all!!". 2/19 is really good.) had 2/21 spinning in the ride just past week.

12/5/71 - again been a good long while. "Should" have been released a long long time ago. Same excellent level, end of same year, as Porchester run, but we're in solid new territory here in only a 10 month span (not like that's a rare occurrence with the GD.)

After Hawaii 1/70 rewound to Thelma 12/69 (all of it but really, I mean what can you say, Alligator > Caution > Feedback>Bid You Goodnight) And today thought it was time for 2/2/70 DaP 6. Which IMHO is one of the great releases from the series. I'm paused in that right now just before the crazy good Dark Star > St. Stephen > Mason's sequence I first heard on cassette many years ago. 2/2 was one of many Holy Grail shows from before the days that the doors of the Vault had even (officially) opened. Also on that list 2/15/73. Like a few others here!

as for a few things on another list - maybe 8/24/80 Grand Rapids (audience only but a sweet one is out there) or a few nights earlier 8/19/80 Uptown, an excellent show that is still looking for a better source than what seems to circulate. Had a nice balcony audience back in the day. should have been there, saw Alpine right after. and 3 nights before Uptown the Mississippi River Festival (again audience only) which had a "you are there" write up in one or more of the Deadbase volumes, all lit up by an epic midwestern downpour cutting loose at the beginning of China Cat (IIRC). One of those crazy storm shows, middle of midwest "nowhere" sorta deal that some of us, yes from the midwest, wished we could have experienced in all its glory.

on another musical note - recently picked up from Owsley Foundation:

That Which Colors The Mind
Ali Akbar Kahn
Indranil Bhattacharya
Zakir Hussain

Absolutely beautiful release. Don't hesitate.

And while I'm typing this back to Dead and Co at Wrigley 9/18. Yep one of those shows.

Hoping for cold rain and snow in the dry Southwest. Stay safe and have fun. Onward!!

Oh yeah, DVs been banished from posting for being too nice lol

Found the notes I had with some of BC and other suggestions

and moving right along;

Hit 12/6/71 DaP 22 Friday night. Short but SWEEEEETTTT! Hot show!
Loving these strong first sets, especially been digging the first set Black Petes!
It’s a shame it got so formulaic later on. I like the structure of the later years, but the song slots got too predictable etc.

Trying for 12/7/71 today. Need to get 10/14/80 in, but might save that one for work Monday?

12/8/73: yowsa, how had I not hit this one! No secret I’m partial to fall 73 and especially those last 10 pure quintet shows. 11/23 was good, but I think I liked this one better? I’ve added the few remaining shows from this tour I haven’t hit yet to our list! 10/21, 11/1, 11/25, 12/12, and 12/18, but I’m holding out on 12/18 until they release it!

Ok, have many suggestions from various sources so hopefully we can massage our ears and check some boxes this week!
ONWARD!

Hopefully DV gets turned back on soon.

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What is going on?

Could not post since last Thursday. Very strange. Kept saying access to server denied.

12/8/73, yes Oroborous. Nice call.

10/14/80, will cue it up later today. The acoustic set is missing but sets 2 and 3 are there and they are really good.

Oh and Vikings lost to the Lions!

Yesterday was: DV, yer gonna love that 10/14/80. There is a version of the acoustic set and you should check it out!
Heaven Help AND Bird Song!
Then switch to the SBD Miller as it sounds good!
Nice long well played show! So far most of these off of Dave’s list have been promising.

12/7/71: more of the same 71 madness. And it’s Got a sweeettt Smokestack, the last until 3/25/72 which is the last Pig Era version. Smokestack is perhaps my favorite song from the whole 70-72 transitional period, and this version is another beauty.

2 awesome shows definitely made for a Grateful day, even if the VIKS pulled a Britney….”Ooops I did it again” lol.
Doood, as much as it’s hard being a Buffalo fan, I don’t know if I could handle the Viks ; )

Going with Bluecrows suggestion today.
It is an Aud but the Rob Eaton version sounds good so far.

Nice little show, not a burner, but worth a spin if you like 80!
Probably matters that I listened to that awesome 10/14 show yesterday?

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New day, same issue. Maybe others are experiencing the same thing?

10/14/80 is still really good. Still hoping they find some two track recordings of this run. Doubtful, but we can hope.

What is next? How does that 8/24/80 audience sound OB?

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Howsabout 8/4/79, First Tiger show? Think Billy the Kid was there?

DV, Not sure if you watched the game last night, but if so, you can see it’s no easy thang being a Bills fan either lol.
I don’t mind when your team plays well but gets beat by a team who plays better, but man it frosts my ass when they beat themselves, grrrrrrrrrrrrrr, idiots!

EDIT: 8/24/80 sounded decent, decent show, not mind blowing but not bad. Another notch in the proverbial belt.
I like a good aud so doesn’t have to be a SB for me to enjoy.

DBL Edit: DV, seems like others are having issues of one kind or another, elsewhere at least?

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Hey yes 79 OB, for sure in on that one. I won't quote the shows notes from the archive this time, but...... .
On the docket for tomorrow for me.

Missed the game last night but I feel your pain. At least the Bills are good.

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I was there, fun show. The Dead sounded good in 1979. The Oakland Auditorium took the place of Winterland. They could have put a nice box set out with that whole December 1979 run.

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You saw so many great shows Billy. Lucky guy.

Yes, would love to see some box treatment from the Oakland Auditorium shows.
Besides the five shows from December 79, of which two have been released, they did five at the end of 1980, that would make an incredible box and show the band at a different period in their 30 year career. I hope at some point Dave starts exploring the early Brent days.
Okay, back to 8/4/79.

Lol, yeah, Billy surely has been blessed!
Perhaps he’s got some stories? Did they notice and/or know JG had a new axe etc?

Going to try and do the next night 8/5/79 today since were in that wheel house.