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  • #1281
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    >daverock>

    The vocal dropouts are not evident in the audience tape, so that must have happened on the way to the board tape.

    That said, the recording is slightly overpowered by Jerry and Bob's guitars from the taper's vantage point, but a little time with a simple Equalizer was enough to bring more Phil and better presence to the vocals. I do recall a few lyric flubs with the new material, but in the overall mix it didn't really jump out at me. Probably much more obvious in the official release/soundboard recording.

    2/22/69>
    Oh, my. I can see this is gonna send me on a primal quest. I have all these fall '69 and fall '68 shows that I've never listened to, but I don't have much from the spring of those years. I love this gentle psychedelia. It's really these delicate type of sounds that really trigger the senses. I'm only up to Dark Star at this point, but what a beautiful way to start a show.... oops, "The transitive diamonds?" Haha. I'd probably have trouble remembering my name if I were there, so whatever.

    It's such a shame that we're restricted to streaming this show. Imho, if the official release isn't so significantly better sounding than one of these circulating boards that it isn't a no-brainer to buy it, then what's with the classism, eh? I know the boys need a retirement plan... but... --mini rant off--

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    Rockthing - good notes on this show - cheers! I'm going through it very slowly, but it's the L.P. I am listening to. Although it has the famous vocal drop outs, the sound and balance of the instruments sounds fine throughout to me. I have just played the side with Loose Lucy and Money Money on. A short side. The lyrics are a bit naff on both of them - but I like the music, and they were both played so rarely that when they do crop up, it's a welcome surprise to me.
    I presume the version you have listened to has the earlier vocal dropouts too.

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    Wrote these notes on Monday morning while drinking my coffee and getting ready to do some work from home. After a while I was mostly distracted by the show.

    I'll get to that Feb. 22 '69 show if I can, but I don't have that one handy. Hafta stream it.

    The ETree identifier of this source is 115876, btw. I don't have the box set, so these are my first impressions.

    It Must Have Been The Roses: Ok. /Now/ I'm awake. Possible tape change? There is suddenly a big improvement in sound quality for this hauntingly sensitive rendition. Jerry's voice is now clear above the guitars. Everything, save Phil, is suddenly much clearer and the sound field feels wider. Up to this point the tape had sounded like the tape the biker is listening to at the beginning of the Dead Movie. Nice harmony work during the refrain, blended well in the house mix.

    Loose Lucy: Gettin' in the funk. Jerry's just perfectly behind the beat to make it nice and nasty. If the syncopation isn't just right, this tune can completely lose all form really quickly. Loose Lucy must be a pretty new song at this point. I have no idea when this tune debuted. They didn't do this in concert much, as far as I know. I was lucky enough to see'em do it once, but the performance I saw was almost unrecognizable. Something was wrong with the timing, so it sounded all backwards. I was embarrassed to not even recognize it until Jerry started singing. This is a nice treat.

    I Know You Rider? Something seems to be wrong here. The info text says Money Money should be next followed by China/Rider, but we're just dropped into IKYR. Looks like some minor surgery might be needed on the meta data.

    Money Money: Ok. Someone's just mislabelled these files. Man, this has always been one of my least favourite songs in the Dead's catalogue. I rarely skip songs on albums, but being the album closer on Mars Hotel makes it easy. I don't think I've ever heard a live version of it, so this is kind of a treat, in its own sort of way. Having not heard it in such a long time, I guess it's not such a bad song. The negativity of the lyric just sems to strike such a contrast to most of the other stuff in the repertoire. John Lennon, for example, has a lot of negativity in his lyrics, but when I listen to him, I expect that.

    China Rider: Yeah. They're keepin' that funky groove going that was working so well during Loose Lucy. The transition jam seems to go almost immediately to an I Know You Rider feel. The guitar tone is very unusual here. It almost sounds like Bobby's Gibson 335 tone. He's playing lots of double-stops, where he plays two notes at a time even while soloing… wait… maybe that /was/ Bobby!? Some very cool interplay between Bobby and Phil before a guitar sound that is unmistakably Jerry joins in just ahead of the trademark unison bit before I Know You Rider. What is now clearly Jerry's tone keeps it going after the unison part, and now there's a Feelin' Groovy jam. I can almost see the smiling faces and twirling homemade sun dresses with flowers in the hair right now. Big, big ovation from the crowd as they settle into the Rider vamp before going into the first verse. They know what they've just heard. That was sweet, breezy, and smooth as can be. I'm guessing Jerry had some sort of equipment or other issue causing him to stop playing for a bit at the beginning of the transition. Oh, yeah, Jer, dig into that "On a north bound train" line. This and the out-of-place IKYR are going to get merged into one track when I get a chance.

    Set II:
    Promised Land: Yeah. Everybody's definitely up off their blankets now.

    Bertha: Got a little "Yee Haw" from someone nearby for "All night pouring, but not a drop on me." It's quite amazing how inobtrusive the audience is, considering this was recorded with a handheld mic by someone just hanging out in crowd.

    Greatest Story: Nice wah wah Jerry licks. Jerry's wah is so bubbly and has a rich swell, like the sound of a wave on the ocean. Using the rocking motion of the foot pedal definitely puts the player physically off balance, so I can understand why he seemed to abandon it later in favor of the Mutron "auto-wah" tone filter. Sounds so good here, though. Jerry's volume sounds cranked, though, totally drowning everything out. I ain't complaining. Oh, yeah. A little jam in GSET? They seem to have gone into something altogether different. I'm not sure if this is a set piece, but it feels unfamiliar to me. I know that I've heard occasional jams in Greatest Story, but they seem rare. This is definitely no longer the Greatest Story chord progression, but I don't know what it is, and then Wamp, Wamp-Wamp, right back into it. Now I'm gonna hafta start checking out Spring 1974 Greatest Stories. That was hot and adventurous, like maybe something went wrong and they fought through it… but maybe there was just a jam in this song back then.

    Ship of Fools: Giving the manic dancers their first break of the second set. The taper is stopping the tape between songs, though, so who knows how long they spent tuning in between. Very nice harmony work from Bobby and Donna.

    Weather Report: Seems a bit tentative in the earlier segments, but the Let It Grow jam is developing interestingly. The whole band just seems sort of in a gentle mood this night. Everything is soft and malleable, and most of all, creative, when they go off into improvised sections. The straight tunes are tight and, well, straightforward, but I'm hearing all sorts of novel ideas coming through during the instrumental segments. There seems to be a completely different confidence at work during this jazzy work out. You can hear Billy getting back to his swing roots and playing off Keith. This is fantastic. Such subtle interplay. Normally when I hear the full suite performed I wonder why they didn't continue to use the first parts, but in this case I didn't feel that way.

    Peggy-O: Jerry's picking is quite aggressive, and his tone is very chimey, even behind his vocal. Relaxed tempo, even by Peggy-O standards. In this recording it sounds almost like Billy and Jerry doing a duet, but Keith adds some accents here and there.

    ??: What is this? A playful little jam and some quiet noodling where the audience's shouts and requests become more prominent. Bobby announces technical difficulties.

    Truckin': Nice buildup, but not the major bomb drop I'm used to, and from there things start to get really weird. It's not spacy weird, just, "Whoa, what the heck is this?" weird. Some of the early 70s Truckin's could get totally abstract, so this is just the way they rolled back then. Great stuff. Gettin' that funky groove goin' from the first set again, even as the changes take on some jazzy influences. Bobby is very clear in the mix, and my oh, my it's gettin' Weir'ed. Jerry busts in with a burst of guitar feedback which seems to shock everyone for a moment, but they're still groovin'. This is the gold I look for in any show. It's funny because Mind Left Body actually sounds a lot like Loose Lucy. Billy and Phil getting' into a little funky-drummer exchange. Finally Phil breaks through in the mix with some space for him to hit that Bootsy one. In the info text "Jam" and "Mind Left Body Jam" had been listed separately, but they're actually all included in the Truckin' track, which is my preference. Cousinit made a real mess of this file set, but I can fix it. Rarely are there such glaring mistakes on the Archive, but this one has definitely been put together somewhat carelessly.

    NFA: This interesting because I've been listening to a lot of Alligator era NFA's or Bean era NFA's, and that gives a nice context to compare to this Wolf tone… of course, there is a LOT of recording tech affecting the sound here, but even though there's a nice honk, everything seems so nice and round and gently muted. Hey. What's this breakdown in NFA. Pretty sure I've never heard that before… and GTRFB. THAT, was an interesting transition.

    GTRFB: Nothing to worry about here. The old standby. Billy's hi-hat figure during the breakdown is, again, getting really funky with a swinging 16th note feel, or something. Very cool.

    US Blues: Mars Hotel weighted setlist. What month did that come out? Good, tight version.

    Johnny B. Goode: Full colosseum clap along for a high energy reading that does justice to the Check Berry original. Sometimes this can get a bit too languid. This one is rockin' hard.

    On repeated listen, I've messed with the EQ some. First of all I bumped up the EQ preamp level, I dunno, about 10db, I guess. I then added a further 12db of 64Hz, and 125Hz on the 10 band EQ to bring Phil nicely into the mix, but also lowered almost everything else about 6db on frequencies that had been flat to make the bass frequency differential greater. The bass still isn't terribly defined, but it at least brings Phil into play. He was completely inaudible without EQ. Got just a touch more vocal by giving the 1KHz and 2KHz about 1db. The tape has a sort of nostalgic cheap car speaker sound, so I actually wanna preserve a bit of that… not that I could really get rid of it. There's quite a nice venue ambiance, especially when there is more space in the arrangements, like during the Mind Left Body Jam.

    The vocal drop-outs others have mentioned were not audible to the audience.

  • #1284
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    That is a great show. According to the cd notes it was recorded, along with shows in late January and the Feb-March shows, for possible inclusion on Live Dead. It probably won't happen - the song lists are obviously very similar, but it would make a great box set to release all the shows recorded.
    The shows from 1967-1971 inclusive are the main ones for me in 30 Trips.

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    Mornin’, rockers!!!

    Pick Of The Day: Dream Bowl February 22, 1969

    Relatively speaking, the yang to the yin of February 21, 1969. True art is characterized by an irresistible urge in the creative artist…..

    I have the space, you have the time, let’s revisit. Officially released in October 2015 as part of Thirty Trips Around The Sun, one almost never hears about this show, possibly because it gets overshadowed by the blazing white hot glare of the Fillmore West Shows of February 27th to March 2nd. This is very much “of a kind” with those shows, featuring the typically sweet Mountains Of The Moon (always loved that song!), a long exploratory Dark Star, a fierce, crunchy Other One, a deathly Death Don’t, a fine Eleven, and a greasy Lovelight that clocks in at a mere 21+ minutes.

    Great music, great sound quality, I suggest you find the time…..

    The only reason for time is so that everything doesn't happen at once…..

    Rock on,

    Doc
    There comes a time when the mind takes a higher plane of knowledge but can never prove how it got there…..

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    That's good to read - they opened with Mississippi Half Step - Franklins Tower the first time I saw them 3/24/81. A great start to the show for sure.

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    In my experience, any show that starts off with Mississippi half-step uptown toodleloo is usually a great one and 5-19-74 is no exception. That pacific northwest box grows on ya, for sure.

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    I haven't played it this year yet, but it has become one of my most played shows from this year - mainly because I bought it on vinyl. But it is really good, too. To me, it's better than its song list suggests - the songs leading up to the Truckin' jam are well played and forward moving, and that final jam is superb. It has been castigated in some quarters for the vocal drop outs. A price worth paying, in my opinion. All three 1974 shows in the box it was culled from are top notch.

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    Hey Bluecrow, #13 is definitely in my top five. Love this show. Listen to it quite a bit. #42 hasn't resonated with me as much as #13, don't know why. How do you all feel?

    I will throw out Dave's Picks #7, 4/24/78, for our old buddy That's Otis. I believe you are fan of this era. Hope all is well out there for you and the rest of the crew!

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    I've got a beta-max transfer of 2/24/74... which stayed in heavy rotation for a long time when it first hit my library, but low and behold Portland 74 has collecting proverbial dust in the old hard disk, too. Time for something brand new (to me).

    A Pat Lee master cassette passed down the generations.

    It's a little hissy, and I'm not getting much Phil at the start, but Jerry and Bob's gutiars are crystal clear. Jerry's voice coming in a close second in the mix with some occasional Keith flourishes wafting to the fore. Billy's cymbals sound crisp, if somewhat thin. Getting a nice Jamaican dub sound when he switches to the highhat. Kick is in there, clear, but with with a soft tone, and none of the hyper-compressed abrasive contemporary festival sound. Donna's harmonies are on, and blended well with Jerry and Bob for the Across the Rio Grande-oh finale of Halfstep. Jerry plays an aggressive outro solo.

    Mexicali: The mix and tape quality remain consistent. It's mostly a guitar oriented sound, but Bobby's voice is clear, if slightly too far back. Even in '74 they could do this one in their sleep. Have you ever heard a real train wreck during Mexicali? I can't recall one. A fan let's out a hoarse, "Whao!" apparently feeling the southwest polka vibes.

    Big Railroad Blues. Love me some BRB. There are short pauses in the tape where Pat Lee is clearly well aware of the need to conserve footage. Could do with A LOT more Phil in the mix. Might fiddle with the EQ in a bit.

    Black Throated Wind: Awkward song that I sometimes really like, and other times can do without.

    Scarlet: Crowd gives Donna a big cheer as the song reaches it's finale. Of course they egged Bobby on with some of his crazy antics, too, but it's nice to hear that early 70s audiences appreciated her contributions.

    Beat It On Down The Line: Always love this one. Nice double vocal from Bobby and Donna. Some unfortunate microphone feedback during Jerry's solo. Phil's backing vocals are there. The bass frequencies either never made it onto the cassette, or have evaporated through the generations of open reels and cassettes.

    Tennessee Jed: Nice bounce to this laid-back rendition. Another one of my favorite tunes, as I've mentioned before. Another nice, appreciative response from the audience who are almost completely unnoticeable for the majority of the time.

    Bobby McGee. I picture the audience mostly having a lie-down on the lawn during this first set. Just a nice day in the park with some live music in the background.

    Ok, well, that's as far as I'll get in this sitting, but really looking forward to that big Truckin' jam at the end of the show. Now spoilers! 😉 Just kidding.

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Wed, 12/08/2021 - 10:31

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....sounds good. I'll do a back 2 back. Never listened to these shows.

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Submitted by Oroborous on Wed, 12/08/2021 - 11:17

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Yeah me too, that’s been my focus here lately: hear shows I haven’t and/or might not have heard if not for y’all’s great suggestions. To boldly go where most deadheads have not gone, oh, wait, think that’s Star Trek lol, same thing I guess?
Anyway, glad your onboard, the more the merrier!
Now if only…hey Good Old GD! where the fug are ya!

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Submitted by JimInMD on Wed, 12/08/2021 - 12:45

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Word has it he had taken the lead digging the tunnel under the vault. The dearth of 1968 and 1969 releases send him over the edge. I gave him my last pick and shovel months ago and have not heard from him since. He had this strange, determined look in his eyes.. I didn't give it much thought at the time, seems like an ominous sign in hindsight.

GOGD.. if you make it be careful. I believe Zuckfun made it to the other side only to be captured by Mark, Dave and their evil cronies. Goodspeed and good luck.

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Wed, 12/08/2021 - 13:53

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Really enjoyed this show, five dancing bears. Interesting first set, with the first Lost Sailor? (Don't hold me to that, going off the shows notes on the archive). Searching for it's partner, not there yet. Great second set, Passenger, FOD, with a nice Samson, Shakedown into Playing! Funky, different. Nice Stella Blue, Sugar Mag and close with US Blues.
Recording is really good, thanks OB.
I will move on to 8/5/79 tomorrow.
I am a little behind.

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Submitted by Oroborous on Thu, 12/09/2021 - 11:23

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Do we want another pick, or do we need more time?
Really dug 8/4/79, 8/5 was good too, but not the sexy set list of 8/5?
Both had that laid back west coast vibe, in a good way, not a dig.

I need some good working music so I’m thinking:
8/13/79, 6/24/91, or 9/20/74?

If no one has a suggestion I’ll probably go with the 79 today?
I’ll wait a little bit first…

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Thu, 12/09/2021 - 11:42

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Still working my way through 8/5/79 Oroborous, but more 79 always sounds good to me.

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Submitted by Oroborous on Thu, 12/09/2021 - 13:42

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No rush, I’m just hitting as many shows as I can while my work situation allows.
You’ll like 8/13/79! Bet Hendrixfreak was at this one?

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Submitted by JimInMD on Thu, 12/09/2021 - 17:52

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I enjoyed 8/4/79 and was looking forward to 8/5. Let's continue with another. I'm pretty sure I listened to the second set of 12/7/79 in Indianapolis two days ago on Today in Grateful Dead History driving around getting shit done..

Back to the Capitol 71, I finished 2/18 and 19. Doc had great notes on this earlier in the year. It was my second listen to both this year also. I wanted to reserve judgement, but I think I know what I am going to say after I hit WMD 50th - 2/21. I think 2/18 is an all-time classic show and an all-time classic Dark Star suite. I gotta give it to Healy though for picking 2/19 for Three From the Vault, and 2/21 is going to slide right up in there in the same category. I think the good Doctor wrote something in the same direction on their anniversaries. The cohesion and consistency of some of these later shows have me scratching my head more with each listen. So much new material and there must have been some trauma with Mickey leaving so suddenly after the 18th. I love the 18th but those next few nights are special and a great prelude of what was to come later in the year.

I am also happy with how they let these out, supplementing WMD and AM 50th with these classic shows. Bravo Dave. All I have to say is wow. Oh, and these stellar recordings help a lot.

For the sports fans out there, well that was an easy win or should I say Easy Wind for those Vikings....

Agree with you on the Post Chester Shows Jim, just so damn good.
Three From the Vault was always interesting to me that they had in the can in the early '90s but didn't get it released until 2007. Glad they got it out. Anymore of those out there?

8/5/79 was another good show. Matrix for this show. The recording is good, not as good as 8/4/79, but still good.
We get another Lost Sailor, Althea, It's All Over Now and what a second set. Scarlet Fire and Estimated Eyes. Enjoyable show.

Okay, on to 8/13/79!

No, just pushing fall '74 back a day.

I'm gonna sneak in a reboot of Dave's Picks 40. I am in the mood for a high volume rocker and I think that one fits that bill.

It's gonna be a good holiday season, I can tell..

I think some folks are playing ketchup, and I think we did it back aways, so check it out, good show, extra credit!

Not needing to work, and being a snow day I’m starting with 12/9/71 to keep up on the Doc train.
Might go to 12/10 later, with potential for the ole DHB today!

Man these 71 shows SOUND good! I mean there good shows, but sonically I really like these Louie 71s!

CHESTER 71, yep, good sheet mon. It’s funny I didn’t dig Vault III (2/19/ much when it came out, but along the way, especially after Docs been schooling us, I think this one is my fav of the run and in the top picks for the year. Now, 2/21 and 2/18 are right there, but something about 2/19, with that Smokestack giving it the edge! IMHO of course.

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Submitted by Oroborous on Fri, 12/10/2021 - 09:30

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Yeah I’m about in need of some palate cleanse so was just thinking I need to get to 40 again, hopefully this WE.
Lol, ok DV, we just piled on more for ya!

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Submitted by JimInMD on Fri, 12/10/2021 - 10:10

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Funny.. that one caught my attention too. I love Jerry's tone on this run also. And the Dark Hallow. So good.

..but the 2/19 Smokestack is flawless. Probably my favorite version. I don't take notes when I listen, I'm just not that disciplined and usually listen while doing something which makes me a terrible critic. I do like what I like though.

As you were.. back to your previously scheduled Lazy Lightnin'>Supplication>Deal.

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Submitted by Oroborous on Fri, 12/10/2021 - 10:15

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Maybe we should add this one this WE?
Bluecrow suggested a usborne matrix that he really liked?
Another I’ve not heard so I think I might slide this one in this WE?

So;
8/12/79
12/9&10/71
Daves 40, and
9/14/74
Hup, hup, better get to it

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Fri, 12/10/2021 - 10:35

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Okay, 79, 90 and 74. Did somebody say Desolation Row? I am in.

You guys are keeping us busy.

I think we should get the Dave's 42 announcement within the next two weeks. Maybe next week.

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Submitted by bluecrow on Fri, 12/10/2021 - 12:57

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yeah - get a move on you slackers!! (glances at mirror)

Yep I very def like that Usbourne for 9/14/74. while I only stumbled upon it earlier this year in that searching mode inspired by POTD, I think that show sure seems to have been overlooked given the Alexander Palace and Dijon/Paris shows on either side. Some very-solid-played '74 - very much, always, welcome. the audience tape brings some nice you-are-there-in-the-hall flavor that I, who likes to time travel every so often, enjoys.

those Summer '79 shows from Oakland are new to me & look fat. I saw that Shakedown 1st night and then that Olin Arageed(!!) night 2 and "both on the damn list!!"

After I realized I was able to conflate several Porchester '71 shows I went back to 2/18 (from Mama Tried on - those early versions always send me, that, and Bobby McGee.) I can't even "imagine" what might have happened being there (Strider?), dialed in, "all bright-eyed-and-bushy-tailed," in the presence of that Dark Star > (the first ever) Wharf Rat(!!)> (DS) Beautiful Jam > Dark Star > Me and My Uncle. and 2/19. yep, totally rocking, not the night before, but still straight "short break, short break" delivering.

Smokestack - have an old somewhat obscure early Howling Wolf Chess double LP that was just to the brim with absolutely amazing music. one of those two-fers that had a huge influence on my listening in those days. might have to hook up the turntable (an old Techinics that has lost its laser calibration - need a new rig.) Not only does Pig bring real justice to Smokestack, but so does Bob. I think Bob brought a lot to his blues covers that strikes me as right there. Remember first hearing an audience of Riverbend '85 (30 Trips!) and (having been at Alpine immediately before that) thinking goddamn! bring it! for me just one of many cool parts of Eugene 8/21/93 was Schoolgirl into Smokestack. (Aside - Standing on the Moon from that show is all time greatest.) Yeah School Girl > Smokestack kicked ass. So yeah I think Bob bitd sang a great Little Red Rooster. And back to my list - 8/20/80, Uptown. Theatre, Chicago. Bob, beginning Set II, breaks out the first Rooster, yep, in Chicago, home to Chess records and all that, nails it, and the band immediately segues into a classic from-the-era China > Rider. my original source was an audience, I think balcony tape(?). crowd goes crazy. estimated > eyes. out of drums into playing > comes a time > playing. there is no good soundboard circulating right now. if in the vault it should def be released.

found myself with an unexpected somewhat free Friday. rain here and snow in the mountains last night! enjoy the weekend and stay safe friends. onward!!

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Fri, 12/10/2021 - 17:27

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You are right Oroborous, really digging this one. How about the Shakedown opener? My god, can't imagine being in the crowd for that start. Sound quality is really good so far.
I will continue to beat the drum for Dave to release some more 79-81. It is time. Shock us.

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Submitted by JimInMD on Fri, 12/10/2021 - 18:58

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Streaming Nightfall of Diamonds on BlewTube. Great audio, great video. Technology is grand.

Tomorrow.. back to the program.

He SCORRRRRRREEEEESSSSSS!
Dats right ladies and germs, we got us one of those DHB HTs! Boo-yah.
Well, full disclosure, I’m only into 7/18/90 Terrapin, but unless there’s a power outage or something beyond our control, it’s happening! Lol
So hit the one two solar plex punch of 12/9&10/71 between rounds of shoveling. First day shoveling, winter came with a vengeance. Shoveled twice in one day, going to bed early tonight lol.

Yes 12/9 is short but it’s like their making up for being late with a sense of purpose and urgency that is sustained until the out of time end! Phew! Smoking!
Now 12/10 is a fine show, don’t get me wrong, but I’ve yet to feel the lightning that y’all do? Meaning, 71 is such a consistent freight train year that has only built up to these December shows, that 12/10 doesn’t stand out so much. That’s more a statement to how consistent and good most of these shows are more than anything singularly with 12/10, imho anyway. Meaning it’s yet another 71 hottie!
I’ll tell ya what, everyday I dig these awesome first set Black Pedro’s more and more! And these still forming Comes a Time etc. Yep Doc, ya did a good job recruiting lol.
I’m really looking forward to 12/15 and 12/31 as I’ve not heard those.

Yeah BC I hadn’t heard those 79s before (kinda my mo lately) but they looked kinda interesting and first Tiger show etc, so why the hell not eh!
Glad folks been digging the 79 and 80 shows. DVs right, WTF David, 79-81!
Pretty sure ole Hendrix freak was at the RR and Denver 79 shows, but I don’t think he hangs here? I’m sure he’d have some stories! Gonna get the 14th in soon too.
I’m confused, I have 8/19/80 on the list, and that’s what deadbase has for the first Rooster since 65 and that China-Ruder etc. guessing you just mixed em as you said 8/20, OR was that a Vulcan mind trick to get us to check out the whole run ; ) But yep, that’s on the list and we’ll slip that in soon.

Fall 74: another field that needs reaping! I’ve never heard most of these so going to try and fit those in going forward.
Going to try that usbourne matrix out mañana, prolly along with 7/19/90 to scratch that itch.
Of course Jimbo, you evil temptress has to mention Nightfall, one of my all time favorite official releases that doesn’t seem to get the love on deadnet?
Don’t think I knew there was bloobtoob, though it makes sense. Dammit, I don’t have time for that lol.
Well if a Dave ever releases the damn fall 89 multis, I’ll prolly try to hit the whole tour again only maybe I’ll go all toob?
What’d I miss?
Oh yeah, The Wolf. Yeah BC I’ve got a double CD of Moanin’ in the Moonlight and Howlin’ Wolf that I came to via tge dead of course, that I used to play the hell out of. Been a long time, guess I’m due!

Awright, digging the 60’ Bullfrog Garcia’s laying down in this 7/18/90 space. Good sheet Mon!
Ok, time for a smoke and a pancake!
Onward Amigos!
This space has been nice of late!

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Submitted by JimInMD on Sun, 12/12/2021 - 08:28

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Don't overexert yourself, OB.. we are not spring chickens. I'm always a day late and a dollar short (shorts).. but a steady pace wins the race. I'm planning a revisit of the box incl. 12/9 and 12/10 as soon as I can get to it.. I did finish the first Deer Creek show. Man.. that Terrapin is strong, crank it up. Then a wonderful The Other One with some tasty Bobby histrionics and well-done Healy distortion into a mind pleasing Morning Dew and a nice take a load off encore of The Weight. I was really in the mood for high octane GD, the '90 Deer Creek shows are real good GD.

Nature brought springtime warm weather here in the mid-atlantic yesterday and if you don't mind 50 mph winds, it was a nice day so I hit the water and grabbed my dry top and red digital device and which started with a tantalizing version of Weather Report Suite. I never know what's on these devices, I seem to change things up in the Spring and with six in constant rotation it's a crapshoot what comes out the other end. Anyway.. after a few minutes it became apparent it was 9/8/73 Nassau, Dave's Picks 38. Man.. Jerry's playing during Let It Grow is absolutely flawless. Moments like this is why I listen to GD, there's not a better band in the land.

As you were.. time for some Sunday bluegrass.

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Submitted by Oroborous on Sun, 12/12/2021 - 09:19

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Yeah, I think I pulled a muscle listening lol.

Sounds like an awesome day Jim, I used to really love skiing with a Walkman on BITD (except when I rode nothing but bumps and the damn thing would click off all the time )
The music really seems to flow when your in motion, especially in fast or adrenaline like situations.

Hit 9/14/74 yesterday. Another fine 74 show. Need to hit this Europe run in full some time as I’ve only heard 8/18 Boxilla and the Dicks 7 cut ups. Always heard they were too coked up etc and these shows weren’t that great?
Sounds like an over generalization. This show has a couple misses, but overall is the quality you’d expect from 74.
There’s no big Playing, or jams per say, but they jam just fine within certain songs. Stand alone Eyes is great, can’t get enough of these 74 Eyes! Weather Report and most of other usual suspects, with a grand jam outta Truckin’ that I swear I heard Phil tease Slipknot briefly, but no takers?
The sound was great, most of the time. I almost gave up initially but then suddenly it splices with nice SB. There are several patches but even the Aud source seems to get better as she goes.
Another one of those off piste shows I might not have gotten to soon, good pick, thanks BC!

Today I’ll hopefully hit the second night of Deer Creek 90, but then I need a rest lol (and the other half wants more Xmass music).

I have to see what I’m doing this week, but I have a bunch of suggestions written down if no one has anything pressing they want to get at.
GO VIKS! I’m about to give up on Da Bills as I think their going down today and thus for the season, but we don’t watch until tonight so no spoilers!

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Submitted by bluecrow on Sun, 12/12/2021 - 11:16

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So already been there a little bit this morning on the deep nostalgia trail. 1st disc of Will The Circle Be Unbroken earlier and now Disc 2. Way back in the day, late jr high or freshman high school, ca. '73, older brother of a friend turned us on to that brilliant and seminal 3 lp collaborative masterpiece by the Nitty Gritty Dirt Band. Before the Dead in my music schooling and in its way laying the foundation for that. My introduction to Doc Watson, Mother Maybelle Carter, Vassar Clements, Earl Scruggs, Jimmy Martin, Merle Travis, among others, Opry related name checks of Ernest Tubbs and Jimmy Dickens - "take an old cold tater and wait." and there began my love of the banjo and flat picking. incredible dialog between songs both with the Dirt Band and the old timers "pick the banjer solid john you've pick one for 15 years and between the old timers themselves - we memorized that stuff too. The first meeting of Doc Watson and Merle Travis is an astonishing listen. My god a bunch of long hairs getting Roy Acoff into the studio??!! So the Dead were already plowing this ground in their way, I wasn't quite there yet. But I think for a lot of us young uns in my approximate generation this was a seminal release. Many many years later I played this for my Old Man and he told me that this was the music of his child hood. Blue collar Indianapolis 1 generation out of Kentucky going back to soldiers on the Union side and earlier. He liked it so much I got him a copy and we would spin it from time to time. Anniversary of his passing a few days ago. There are songs on that album that will always be a part of my life in both happiness and grief.

So in between that I've sandwiched the Discs 1 and 2 of 11/11/73. Beautiful day here.
Take care. Be Kind. Be safe. Have fun!!

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Sun, 12/12/2021 - 13:34

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Can't say enough good things about those 79 shows, except we need more. Really like those Deer Creek shows. Good to see the series reach 1990.
The 9/14/74 show, would love to see an official released recording

No spoiler alerts on the Bills.

How about 5/16/81, Barton Hall for tomorrow?
This was the 81 30 Trips show. I haven't listened to this show in maybe four years.

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Submitted by Oroborous on Mon, 12/13/2021 - 08:25

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DV makes the call: 5/16/81.
Ya might want to check out the next night also/instead?
Not sure if we’ve ever covered it here on POTD, though I know I’ve gone on about it before.
Totality biased but I think it’s a better show? Cue up an aud of the blistering Big RR blues and listen to how loud Garcia is!
Anyway, glad your liking the 79s, I have more on the list, along with 74, 80, 78. 73, and 91, plus there’s more goodies on that list of Dave’s that I’d like to check out…

Did get 7/19/90 in before the football fiasco. These shows sound really good considering the source. It’s encouraging that they can release later stuff and have it sound this good.
Glad the Viks won and beat the dreaded Steelers no less! Don’t even want to talk about the Bills fiasco.
Hell can’t really because Direct TV (meaning fucking ATandT) screwed us!
We have the over priced NFL package and always record the game to watch later, at a more convenient time (hey, have to have time for POTD ) AND so we don’t waste half the day watching commercials etc.
So when the game started to record, it switched from the NFL station it was scheduled on, which schedules an adequate four hour block of time, to a local CBS station, which didn’t include enough time for the whole game, let alone overtime. So we missed the last five minutes plus OT, BS!
Not cool Kyle!
So not sure WTF happened or how we blew it this time, but they’ll have to sweep the last four in order to have a chance, sigh…sports, what a bummer, thank goodness for the Dead, they always make ya feel like a winner!

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Mon, 12/13/2021 - 11:24

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That is a bummer about the Bills and Direct TV
OB. I actually caught the first half of the game and didn't see what happened until I got home later last night. I was shocked to see the game went to OT. Hey, at least they gave them a game.

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Submitted by Oroborous on Tue, 12/14/2021 - 11:29

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How about 8/14/79?
I’m going with a Rob Eaton aud/Miller transfer.

Dug 5/16/81. It’s better than I remember, nice lil shakedown.
Perhaps not an 81 scorcher, which is why I felt this was another “he went to the right street but picked the wrong house” situation, but it is a solid show none the less.
Haven’t heard that one in a while, good call DV!

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Submitted by JimInMD on Tue, 12/14/2021 - 12:22

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Never liked the Patriots, always respected Brady but rarely rooted for them. In hindsight though.. barring some unforeseen football wizard that just shed his diapers, he is going to go down as the goat, a statement that will likely last the rest of our lives. ..am I still invited to the party? I promise not to show up with a six pack of bud light.

As for pick of the day, I'm in OB. Besides the shows of late I am officially giving up on (alas, duty called).. I scratched off what I committed to. I really enjoyed the revisit of DaP40 and I really enjoyed the latest picks I did catch. So another '79 it is..

To quote someone who would know, "This is more fun than a frog in a glass of milk."

Yes, let's finish the CO stop, sounds good.

I also like the 5/16/81 show. I think maybe it was picked because it was the last time they played at Barton Hall?

Anyway, if you have it, check it out at some point. Great first set, good 81 variety with Feel Like a Stranger, Passenger, CC Rider, High Time. Big second set with a good Shakedown, I agree OB, Lost Sailor, SOC, we even get a Spanish Jam eventually going in to Truckin! Nice finish, kind of a bummer the last few songs are from an audience source, but it is still enjoyable.

By the way, has anybody seen the prices of these 30 Trips shows recently? Good grief!

Started the day with 12/14/71, which appears to be one of Doc's favorites.

Back to 79.

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Submitted by JimInMD on Tue, 12/14/2021 - 14:03

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I also like this show. The recording is a bit tinny and thin, typical of spring 80. I do like the show a lot however. I remember comparing this to Dave's Picks 8, 11/20/80 when it came out and playing the Miller SBD of this show thinking to myself.. wow.. if they would take the time and patience to remaster a matrix on this show it would go up a few lightning bolts.

Still, a good show and worthy of release.

Onward

Edit: Did not mean to take any wind from the Penn State/Cornell Road Trips.. I really like these shows. The recordings are what they are and I dip into this era often. Put this in the wish list category.

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Submitted by icecrmcnkd on Wed, 12/15/2021 - 18:11

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I listened to 10-12-68 for the first time this past weekend, and was very satisfied. I saw your wayback machine tonight and decided to do set 2 tonight.

Now I’m on 9-30-89, which is Vguy’s post-concussion syndrome show.

For all the heavy metal music Vguy listened to in the 80’s, little did he know that he would be banging his head at a Dead show…..

My attempt at humor.

I’ll show myself out…..

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Submitted by JimInMD on Thu, 12/16/2021 - 05:40

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That's a pretty short show, it's been a while since I hit that one. Have we done it on this thread yet? My short-term memory seems to have some holes.. Plus we are in need of a new pic.

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Thu, 12/16/2021 - 06:28

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I can't remember either Jim. I know we have done a few 68s. Either way, let's do it.

I will poke around for some new post coma shows. It has been a while.

Excited about #42, I mean, another Winterland 74 show. What is not to like. I know we listened to this show not too long ago, so it will be great to listen to a Norman version.

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Thu, 12/16/2021 - 08:02

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....got the year right Conekid, but wrong show. It was Irvine '89. (Don't do nitrous while standing up kids! Especially on pavement!) Anyways, I was at that 9.30.89 Shoreline show and I'm going to listen to it today. If time, I'll follow up with 10.12.68.

10/12/68, I know I’ve never heard that one? I’ll hit that right after I give 12/15/71 it’s virginal listen.
Been really looking forward to this one: Dark Star duh!, AND a Cryptical, AND it’s got a big ole heaping helping of Grease!, AND!!!! It’s got a Cumberland! All it needs is a PEGGY O ; )

So big day for me. Yesterday I almost got a DHB. I call technicalities on myself: rode the 12/14/71 Dave’s 26 freight train first, then RT 2.1 from fall 90 that I never heard as I just got it from real gone. WOW, WOW, WOW, What a Dark Star! Yaaaasss I know JGs signing isn’t as good as 1970 whatever blah, blah, blah, but so what, it was one of the best/trippiest modern DS I’ve had the pleasure to meet: 5 red sweethearts outta 5!
I know most don’t like chop jobs, but to me if your going to do that, this is the way. If you put this on and didn’t look things up you’d think it was just one monster second set! Wow, still blown away by this one, look forward to many spins, especially if your looking for something that’s not 3 hours long. Now I’m only missing RT 1.3 and unfortunately several bonus discs. Down to 4 Dicks, 2 I have copies, 2 I’ve never heard, come on Real Gone, singing, thank you, for a real good time!
Received Dicks 15 also. Have had a copy so I’ve heard this one a bunch, so just buying it for the collection.

Then, after the big news yesterday, I hit most of 2/24/74 DaP 13, one of my favs. Good Sheet Mon!
It’s like a 73/74 hybrid! Top shelf, where Mama hides the cookies!

So I did all 12/14/71, 2/24/74, but technically not a “complete” third show, though 2.1 is 2 full discs, I guess technically the Olympic POTD judges would not consider a “real” DHD? Such problems lol.

So today 12/15/71 as we continue on Docs 71 Grateful Express, followed by some Jimmy fried 68, and then?
ONWARD!

EDIT: ooopps, aaaa, huh, huh, huuuh, hey Beavis, there’s no Cryptical? No problemo, still a top shelve 71.

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Submitted by JimInMD on Thu, 12/16/2021 - 21:30

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Hey guys.. I honestly think if we push Oroborous a little harder.. say three 73 shows a day or create a new, four show a day minimum, I'm pretty sure he will crack.

Just an idea.

Edit: Dibs on his highfi.
Edit2: Anyone know how do you delete posts?

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Thu, 12/16/2021 - 21:55

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What a day, nice work Oroborous!

Yes, love Dave's #13. One of my favorites. As always with the Dead, it is so interesting at least to me how much different they sounded in February 74 to June 74.

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Fri, 12/17/2021 - 06:38

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Looking at 10/3/87 at Shoreline for today?

Let me know.

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Submitted by Oroborous on Fri, 12/17/2021 - 06:49

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If I didn’t ever have to work I could probably get 4 in at least three four days a week. But only if I skip most of the me and my uncles…hey, everyone’s got their limits ; )

10/387 MR DV says. Might be able to get that in, weird work day ahead?

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Submitted by daverock on Fri, 12/17/2021 - 10:59

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Oro - don't pass by the one on Daves Picks 11 - 11/17/72 - if that ever crops up on here. Lightning fast country picking by Jerry - knocks most other versions out of the park.

Besides Bob playing it more than any other song (sans drums), I played it in a band every night, sometimes more than once, say 3-6 times a week, for like 5 years. Same with Folsom Prison, used to love it, but too much is too much!
Really though, any song, can still resonate under the right situation. Unfortunately, some of these old chestnuts, the situation happens few and far between ; )

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Submitted by JimInMD on Fri, 12/17/2021 - 13:10

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I think we all can relate to that. I try to keep my comments on them to myself, but they slip out from time to time. I agree with DaveRock though, even the songs that aren't near and dear to us can smoke on any given night. Now where we? Lotta poor man make a five dollar bill..

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Submitted by billy the kiddd on Fri, 12/17/2021 - 15:12

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I was at this show; I don't remember a whole lot about it. I do remember the opener and also the Maggie's Farm into Cumberland. My favorite 1987 Dead show, was the one they played with Dylan in July, the Dead played great and seeing Garcia play pedal steel put it over the top. My favorite 1987 shows were the Jerry Garcia Acoustic and electric shows with David Nelson and Sandy Rothman. The electric on the Eel River and the Warfield shows in Noverber were as good as it gets.