Listen To The River: St. Louis '71 '72 '73 (20-CD)

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What's Inside:
7 Previously Unreleased Complete Shows On 20 Discs
Fox Theatre, St. Louis, MO 12/09/71
Fox Theatre, St. Louis, MO 12/10/71
Fox Theatre, St. Louis, MO 10/17/72
Fox Theatre, St. Louis, MO 10/18/72
Fox Theatre, St. Louis, MO 10/19/72
Kiel Auditorium, St. Louis, MO 10/29/73
Kiel Auditorium, St. Louis, MO 10/30/73
Sourced from tapes recorded by Rex Jackson, Owsley "Bear" Stanley, and Kidd Candelario
Mastered in HDCD by Jeffrey Norman
Restoration and Speed Correction by Plangent Processes

Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 13,000

Steamboats and BBQ, ice cream cones and Mardi Gras - are you ready to laissez les bons temps rouler with the "gateway" to the Grateful Dead? Meet us, won't you, in St. Louis for seven complete and previously unreleased Dead concerts that capture the heart of the band's affinity for the River City.

LISTEN TO THE RIVER: ST. LOUIS ’71 ’72 ’73 is a 20CD set featuring five shows from the Fox Theatre - December 9 and 10, 1971; October 17-19, 1972; and two from the Kiel Auditorium - October 29 and 30, 1973.

The seven shows in the collection span slightly less than two years, but they represent some of the best shows the Grateful Dead played during some of its peak tours. The music tells the story of a band evolving, changing from one sound to another seamlessly, precipitated – in large part – by significant personnel changes in the Dead’s lineup.

The two 1971 shows feature the original Grateful Dead lineup plus newcomer Keith Godchaux on piano. This version of the band would hold together for the next six months as the Dead embarked upon its Europe ’72 tour. By the time the Dead returned to the Fox Theatre less than a year later, they were without Pigpen, who’d played his final show with the Dead at the Hollywood Bowl on June 17, 1972. A year after the exceptional Fox 1972 shows, the Dead came back to St. Louis, but played the much larger Kiel Auditorium, touring behind the release of WAKE OF THE FLOOD, which came out just two weeks before.

All told, the band played 60 different songs during these shows highlighted by blazing romps through “Beat It On Down The Line” and “One More Saturday Night” and wistful takes on “Row Jimmy” and “Brokedown Palace” (whose lyrics give the collection its name). Meanwhile, the copious jamming ebbed and flowed like the mighty Mississippi River on multiple voyages through “The Other One” and “Dark Star.” Naturally, the band paid tribute to one of its favorite rock and rollers and one of St. Louis’ biggest stars by playing Chuck Berry songs at every show in the collection, including Pigpen galloping through “Run Rudolph Run.”

Each show has been restored and speed corrected using Plangent Processes with mastering by Jeffrey Norman. The collection comes in a slipcase with artwork by Liane Plant and features an 84-page hardbound book as well as other Dead surprises. To set the stage for the music, the liner notes provide several essays about the shows, including one by Sam Cutler, the band’s tour manager during that era, and another by Grateful Dead scholar Nicholas G. Meriwether, among others.

Due October 1st, LISTEN TO THE RIVER: ST. LOUIS ’71 ’72 ’73, is limited to 13,000 individually numbered copies and available exclusively from Dead.net.

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October 10, 2021 - 6:43pm

#871

Crow Told Me

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The Eagle Has Landed

Came home yesterday after hiking Pt Reyes to find the StL box ensconced behind the ˜petunias and safe from porch pirates. Woohoo! That's 8 days after the official release date, for everybody keeping score at home, so despite all the rigamarole about delays, the box actually made its way to me just about exactly as fast as the more recent DaPs have.

The packaging is lovely. Have only had time to audition two random discs, and they sounded great on every level. It's going to take a good long while to explore all 20 discs, but I'll be loving every minute of it.
October 10, 2021 - 5:47pm

#872

proudfoot

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Listened to disc three of 11 26 72

Then 12 9 71 disc one
My beloved got home during Hurts Me Too
She was shocked, SHOCKED, at the volume I had it set at
October 10, 2021 - 5:45pm

#873

proudfoot

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Phil throws shade at Grand Funk Railroad

Yaaaasss, Phil!
October 10, 2021 - 4:54pm

#874

proudfoot

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I love how...

these official releases sound 3 dimensional
October 10, 2021 - 3:48pm

#875

Vguy72

Joined:
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DMCVT nailed it....

....cool story.
Jim is hanging back with his Workingmans Axe.
I was seriously on the fence regarding that product.
October 10, 2021 - 3:38pm

#876

dmcvt

Joined:
April 4, 2013

Burning wood... local…

Burning wood... local product, have depended on it for forty years, see behind those sunflowers. Stacked a fresh load of beech, maple and ash just a few minutes ago. PITB in some ways, but there's nothing like a wood fire. I cook on the stove, heat water, its the iron beast magnet altar in winter. While awaiting the new box, went to my first live music indoors since February 2020 this afternoon. Host and composer Bill Cole presented a new work, Margaret and Katie... he taught at Amherst and Dartmouth, chaired the department of music, retired a few years ago. Tomorrow is his 84th birthday. Held at a small recital hall at Dartmouth (photo ID, vax certificate, student escorts), limited to forty by invitation, plus a few students, video will be posted to YT after some digital mastering. Seven musicians, everything from tuba, marimba, sax, flute, cornet, conch shell, kora, percussion, various reeds and didgeridoo. As Dartmouth was founded 1769 to educate and Christianize Native Americans, a few moments of quiet reflection on that upside down mistake this eve of Indigenous Peoples Day.
October 10, 2021 - 2:38pm

#877

Vguy72

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I have a little psylocibin....

....but I wouldn't chop wood while on it.
Someone I know lost a finger.
October 10, 2021 - 2:34pm

#878

hendrixfreak

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I got wood

also, AJS. Picked up one pickup load yesterday, about 800 lbs stacked into the truck, then 800 lbs stacked in various locations around the perimeter of the house. On a cold, dark winter night, snow swirling, I'll pop a little psylocibin, pour a whiskey, grab a guitar and dream on the fire. Yeah, fall is the best as the cooler temps push you to race to get ready for the snow and darkness. Beautiful! And perfect for listening to loud music as doors and windows are closed.

Paz, brothers.
October 10, 2021 - 2:27pm

#879

Vguy72

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I wish I had a wood burning fireplace....

....doesn't make much sense in Vegas though, but I get it AJS.
Foolish you are not.
I bet your daughter was proud handing her dad a bonified treasure. She was probably all smiles.
October 10, 2021 - 2:21pm

#880

Angry Jack Straw

Joined:
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Fall is the best time of year.

Got two loads of wood delivered today. Dumped, as always, in the road right in front of the house. I spent all afternoon loading and stacking the wood in the garage. Axe in hand, chopping the larger cuts into a more manageable size. I was called foolish for installing a wood burning fireplace. Too much work. Too dirty. Too smelly. Years later all the neighbors look on with envy and ask to borrow wood for their newly installed fire pits. Don’t you just flip a switch or something I always reply.

I come inside after finishing and my daughter hands me the box. Sunday delivery is quite nice. Can’t wait to grab a beer and fire it up. “Mom’s napping.”

So, hopefully tonight I can listen.

First comment. As others have pointed out. The box is way too big. A ton of unused space. And very difficult to remove a single show. They all slide out. How about adding a few more millimeters to make access to the discs easier. You clearly had the extra space.

Time for a Magic Hat #9 and nice little fire.

Happy listening to those who have their copies.

John Perry Barlow

John Perry Barlow

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What's Inside:
7 Previously Unreleased Complete Shows On 20 Discs
Fox Theatre, St. Louis, MO 12/09/71
Fox Theatre, St. Louis, MO 12/10/71
Fox Theatre, St. Louis, MO 10/17/72
Fox Theatre, St. Louis, MO 10/18/72
Fox Theatre, St. Louis, MO 10/19/72
Kiel Auditorium, St. Louis, MO 10/29/73
Kiel Auditorium, St. Louis, MO 10/30/73
Sourced from tapes recorded by Rex Jackson, Owsley "Bear" Stanley, and Kidd Candelario
Mastered in HDCD by Jeffrey Norman
Restoration and Speed Correction by Plangent Processes

Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 13,000

Steamboats and BBQ, ice cream cones and Mardi Gras - are you ready to laissez les bons temps rouler with the "gateway" to the Grateful Dead? Meet us, won't you, in St. Louis for seven complete and previously unreleased Dead concerts that capture the heart of the band's affinity for the River City.

LISTEN TO THE RIVER: ST. LOUIS ’71 ’72 ’73 is a 20CD set featuring five shows from the Fox Theatre - December 9 and 10, 1971; October 17-19, 1972; and two from the Kiel Auditorium - October 29 and 30, 1973.

The seven shows in the collection span slightly less than two years, but they represent some of the best shows the Grateful Dead played during some of its peak tours. The music tells the story of a band evolving, changing from one sound to another seamlessly, precipitated – in large part – by significant personnel changes in the Dead’s lineup.

The two 1971 shows feature the original Grateful Dead lineup plus newcomer Keith Godchaux on piano. This version of the band would hold together for the next six months as the Dead embarked upon its Europe ’72 tour. By the time the Dead returned to the Fox Theatre less than a year later, they were without Pigpen, who’d played his final show with the Dead at the Hollywood Bowl on June 17, 1972. A year after the exceptional Fox 1972 shows, the Dead came back to St. Louis, but played the much larger Kiel Auditorium, touring behind the release of WAKE OF THE FLOOD, which came out just two weeks before.

All told, the band played 60 different songs during these shows highlighted by blazing romps through “Beat It On Down The Line” and “One More Saturday Night” and wistful takes on “Row Jimmy” and “Brokedown Palace” (whose lyrics give the collection its name). Meanwhile, the copious jamming ebbed and flowed like the mighty Mississippi River on multiple voyages through “The Other One” and “Dark Star.” Naturally, the band paid tribute to one of its favorite rock and rollers and one of St. Louis’ biggest stars by playing Chuck Berry songs at every show in the collection, including Pigpen galloping through “Run Rudolph Run.”

Each show has been restored and speed corrected using Plangent Processes with mastering by Jeffrey Norman. The collection comes in a slipcase with artwork by Liane Plant and features an 84-page hardbound book as well as other Dead surprises. To set the stage for the music, the liner notes provide several essays about the shows, including one by Sam Cutler, the band’s tour manager during that era, and another by Grateful Dead scholar Nicholas G. Meriwether, among others.

Due October 1st, LISTEN TO THE RIVER: ST. LOUIS ’71 ’72 ’73, is limited to 13,000 individually numbered copies and available exclusively from Dead.net.

Whoops

The dreaded double post

Feb 74 mini box

Would of made sense. That’s the problem with only one box a year though.
I think they’d have no problem if the did a big un and a mini every year, but hey I’m a full on addict now ; )
One BIG box, one mini, 5 Dave’s, and another, low budget “cassette master” series, with the occasional stand alone.

There’s still at least hundreds of good shows, what are they waiting for, their market to be Dead…and I don’t mean gratefully ; )

Pink Floyd live shows released

Just read on uncut that Pink Floyd has released 10 or so live shows from 1970 to 72. Atom Heart Mother, Meddle and Obscured by Clouds covered. Awesome

Pink Floyd

I just went to the site and it didn’t mention the live shows.
But the most recent update, from yesterday, says that Pulse is coming out on BluRay 2-18-22.
Awesome, I have the DVD but have been wishing for a BluRay rerelease.
I saw the same show as on Pulse at the Pontiac Silverdome.

Edit:
Googled it and the live shows are currently only on streaming services.

In labyrinths of coral caves................

Yo! Rockers!!

Before anybody starts losing their mind over this....................

The Floyd shows just "released" on streaming sites are all widely circulated and have been for years. I should know, I have them all.............

These "new" releases are all audience recordings. Repeat---audience recordings, NOT soundboards.Not so bad for what they are, but if anybody was expecting better, sorry, no. And it's not clear that they used the best source material either. Best/worst example---the Montreux shows.

Guess they figured that if King Crimson can do it, so can we!!!

Have followed the Floyd taping/trading scene for decades. Soundboards are exceptionally rare, very little was actually recorded by the band. Alas, their best work, especially in the pre-DSOTM era, was never recorded professionally. I do have these "new" releases if anybody wants, but caveat emptor......

I say this as somebody who was very deep into Pink Floyd years before I got on the Dead bus....................

Rock on!!!

Doc
Over the mountain watching the watcher
Breaking the darkness waking the grapevine
One inch of love is one inch of shadow
Love is the shadow that ripens the wine
Set the controls for the heart of the sun

always need a little more room

"Pink Floyd's cool"

- Butthead

and a billion other crazies

Pink Floyd SBD’s

A lot was released as part of the Box a few years ago. Maybe that was most of what they had?
I was able to get all the small Boxes that make up the big Box, except for the bonus material that came with the big Box. But, all the small Boxes were only about half the price, and I didn’t really need all the bonus schwag.
I recently watched all the video from those Boxes and there is some good stuff, but a lot of the 67,68 videos are them lip syncing to the studio recordings.

10/17/72

Working my way slowly through the box, and finally just now hit disc two of the first '72 show. Whoa. The rippin' Cumberland, then the brain-melting Playin'! Then they open set two with a hot Greatest, then dial it UP a notch with a smokin' Don't Ease!

On top of this I've been listening for the first time to the shows I attended. My third, fourth, and fifth shows were 9/4-6/91, and I'll be DAMNED if they aren't REALLY HOT!

Have a Jerry Christmas, and a Happy New Weir!

Pink Floyd Early Years

I still dip into this box-I played the first cd from 1970 only last night, which starts with the band playing Atom Heart Mother without the orchestra at Montreux and ends with the same piece live at the Beeb with the full monty.

The cds are much more satisfactory than the blu ray discs for me in this box, apart form the clips from 1966-1967 with the mighty Syd. The ones from 1968, with other band members lip synching to pre recorded playbacks of Syd Barretts songs are a bit ridiculous, unfortunately. They look embarrassed while they are doing it. As indeed they should.

I wonder if these new live Pink Floyd releases are radio broadcasts. We are inundated with them in Britain.

The blu ray of Nick Mason's Saucerful of Secrets looks tempting. Even if they are a cover band.

which one's pink

thanks doc for the info, interesting that they would re release released live shows that are audience recordings. I also read that there was a change in the copy write laws in England and Europe and if you don't use it within 50 years, you lose it. Dylan released a bunch of stuff before the 50 year threshold was reached so I guess they just don't want their recordings going to public domain.
I have a couple of Pink Floyd shows that were released back in the 90's "Rhapsody in Pink" comes to mind. They don't sound so good. I stopped buying any of their live stuff due to the recording on that cd alone, pretty shitty.

Green is the colour of her kind......

Yo! Floydians!!!

Correct me if I'm wrong........

If memory serves me well, those shows were never offically released in the USA. They are not true "line recording broadcast over the airwaves". Can't speak to the UK details......

Pretty much all of the high quality live stuff was released on the early box set. I think there's some tiny fragments of different stuff floating around, but otherwise that's about it for now........

Back in the day, almost no bands routinely recorded live shows unless they were preparing for live album releases. So what was preserved by the Dead was a major, major gift to history---and to us also.

Rock on rockets!

Doc
Following the path as it leads towards the darkness in the north
Weary strangers' faces show their sympathy
They've seen that hope before.............

Whew

And good morning to you too Captcha. That was like 20 pictures for no apparent reason. Forgot what I was going to say.

Pink Floyd SBD

I recently got the DSOTM remaster which has a 2nd CD with a live DSOTM from Nov. 1974 Wembly.
Sounds really good compared to the AUD recordings I have.

Free games for may

Yo! Pinkies!!!

That Wembley "Dark Side show"---which had an Echoes encore----is from November 16, 1974, and was broadcast on the BBC. Echoes was later included as bonus material on the Early Years box set. Great stuff..........

Psychedelic rock on!!

Doc
When that fat old sun in the sky is falling,
Summer evening birds are calling.
Children's laughter in my ears,
The last sunlight disappears.

Child of the Moon

Psychedelic rock on indeed! If you are in any doubt - it's Keith Richards 78th birthday today.

I just got back from Spider-Man - No Way Home....

....what's going on? The Floyd? Cool.

@Daverock...

Not Just Keef's birthday but the late great Bobby Keys Birthday Anniversary too...crazy that these two share a birth date...

How is Keef still alive?

I mean...how?

Nappy rags

Yes, well said - a major omission - Bobby Keyes birthday too.

I can't think of anybody else who embodies the joys of cocking a snook better than Keith Richards.

It's Like Willie Nelson Sez

“It’s time for young people to start thinking about the world they’ll leave for me and Keith Richards," sez Willie.

Keef reminds me of that episode of the Simpsons where Mr Burns gets a physical and doctor tells him he has "everything": he has so many different diseases that they're all somehow in perfect balance. "So, what you're saying is, I'm invincible?" Burns replies.

Good ol' Keef. I loved him like a father, I loved him like a friend, I knew his time would shortly come, but I did not know just when.

Crow Told Me told me about Keef....

....but seriously. To piggy back Proudfoots take, I think Richards is like a rock and roll mummy or something.

Keef is a...

rock and roll zombie

or animatron

Have you ever seen an image of him without a cigarette?

Keef is a...

rock and roll zombie

or animatron

Have you ever seen an image of him without a cigarette?

Postin' double

lol

Lions beat Cardinals
Wtf
Thats incredible

My son and I have an inside joke for lameness that has an inflection that must heard not written

but anyway

"Liiunz"

Health and Safety

I don't know how he does it either. No one I know still eats shepherds pie.

Daverock...

Just don't bust the crust!

Shepherdspie

Im making one now...

shepherd's pie

Sweeney Todd had Shepherd's pie peppered with actual shepherd on top:-)

If I miss it,,,

Merry Christmas one and all.

Keith

I just got around to listening to this all---I hope KeithFan is happy---Keith is all over this, both in his relative prominence compared to other recordings, and in the number of times he is given 'lead' while Garcia lays back or disappears. Much, much Keith, and in great form.

Too All

Have a safe and enjoyable holidaze,
and a Festivus for the rest of us!

Celebrate Festivus

with the "weeds of strength" "processed" through a metal pole

Best to all

Hi all, I just wanted to wish all you grate people on this forum the best of christmases, restful holidays, and a wonderful, safe and healthy new year!

I've said this before, but it bears repeating: I really enjoy the conversations here, I learn a lot about other music to check out, and I feel like this is a place where there is interesting, informed conversation about the best band in the world, and my favorite band. Thanks, all!

Feliz Navidad to all!!!

Hope everyone here has a fine holiday whatever it is you do......now if you'll excuse me, It's just started snowing and I need to give my short ribs some love outside...

Ribs…

I think BillyTK will be right over!

I love BBQ ribs

But I'm cooking up spaghetti, and tri tips on the bbq. With lots of 1969/70 Dead & great blues music. Also lots of Old Rasputin Russian Imperial Stout. Merry Christmas to all the great people here on the forum.

Christmas is the day that holds all time together......

Yo! Rockers!!!!

Christmas is the spirit of giving without a thought of getting. So if anybody out there needs some 1971 Christmas joy in their stocking, you know where to find me! The excellence of a gift lies in its appropriateness rather than in its value........

Christmas to a child is the first terrible proof that to travel hopefully is better than to arrive.........

Happy and safe holidays to all, and rock on!!

Doc
Christmas is a season for kindling the fire for hospitality in the hall, the genial flame of charity in the heart......

well said Nitecat

and I concur, have a great weekend all.

Merry Christmas, everybody!

wherever you are....

Merry Christmas!

To MaryE, for always being there.

To all the others, who make this such an entertaining place.

Merry Christmas

Yes, Merry Christmas to one and all.
And special thanks to Marye for helping me out again when I asked for it.

Merry Marye

Thank you for all you do, Marye!

Keith Richards

Who said Keith is alive. Bela Lugosi’s wondering how he does it

Merry Christmas...

...Happy Boxing Day!
Whenever 12/26 comes rolling around, I'm really missing the end of year runs. 12/26 & 12/27 1980 on today's schedule.

Wachet auf, wachet auf

es kraeht der Hahn
Die Sonne betritt mit goldene Bahn

Phish had to cancel their NYE shows at MSG due to covid....

....but, lo and behold, they are going to play a 3 set show on NYE without an audience on their app and YouTube channel. Starts at 5:30 pm EST sharp.
Did I mention its free??
Pardon my French, but that's pretty fucking cool of the band. They remind me a lot of the Grateful Dead in that they just want to play. And appreciate their phans which is payed forward.
Oh, and it might snow in Vegas tomorrow lol.

Good music will always be recognized in the end…...

50 years ago today.....

December 31, 1971
Winterland, San Francisco, California

Set 1: Dancin' In The Streets-Mr. Charlie-Brown-Eyed Women-Beat It On Down The Line-You Win Again-Jack Straw-Sugaree-El Paso-Chinatown Shuffle-Tennessee Jed-Mexicali Blues-China Cat Sunflower>I Know You Rider-Next Time You See Me-Playing In The Band-Loser-One More Saturday Night

Set 2: Truckin'>drums>The Other One>Me And My Uncle>The Other One-jam>Black Peter-Big River-The Same Thing-Ramble On Rose-Sugar Magnolia-Not Fade Away>Goin' Down The Road Feeling Bad>Not Fade Away

Encore: Casey Jones

This is deadicated to Scott Wiseman………

Ah, shut the f*ck up for a minute. What happened to the FCC…………..?

For years the Lanum FM was the only commonly circulating copy of this show, until Charlie Miller released his fine FM and SBD remasters in 2018. Both are recommended. And while this may not be a “classic show”, it is, like many Dead New Year’s shows, a “fun show”, and it does have its moments, especially the Dancin’ opener and the fine second set. A great way to end a great year of Grateful Dead music. But was it really the end of 1971………………?

The world in which we were called to exist was an absurd world, and there was no other in which we could take refuge…….

Rock on!!

Doc
That, for me, is the only real legacy: the idea that one has left a lingering trace in people's memories…..

I went down to the depot

Well I never got there on time

I went down to the depot

I never got there on time

12.31.70

And that train is rolling down ,,,

Dave L.SD FIre up a Sugaree ; Cassidy Cold Rain & Snow triple combo. Send it out 2022

Wachet Auf.....

Proudfoot, ein neuer Tag. Beautiful!
Jeder Tag ist gleich lang, aber unterschiedlich breit.
G.

GG

I learned that song in 1972 or 73 while we were living in West Deutschland for 18 months while my Dad worked at Max Plank institute in Heidelberg. I attended a Grundschule

Thanks, Doc!

Doc, Thank you very much for your deadication to 1971. Many years ago, my collection of live Dead consisted of "Live/Dead" 2WS-1830, the 2 LP set; "self-titled" or "Skullfuck" 2WS-1835, the 2 LP set; and "Europe '72" 3WX-2668, the 3 LP set. Skullfuck seemed to be the best ticket for my entry into my understanding of the Grateful Dead and it still does. 1971 holds a special place in my heart and mind in so many different ways.
It is now the dawning hours of 2022 and "playing" the 50th-anniversary "game", 1972 comes into play and we will have many great Grateful Dead shows and that "Europe '72" 50th-anniversary thingy to commemorate. In 2011 the "Europe '72: The Complete Recordings" was issued.

Again, thanks for re-jogging my interest in '71 Dead!

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