Dave's Picks Vol. 40: Deer Creek Music Center, Noblesville, IN 7/18/90 & 7/19/90

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18,000 happy Dead Heads could not be wrong. Deer Creek, my how you deliver.

We're closing the books on DAVE'S PICKS 2021 with not one but two - nearly - complete shows from Noblesville, IN 7/18/90 & 7/19/90. Yes, we've packed it all on four CDs, save for that second night encore which we promise you'll get to hear in the very near future. Sometimes there really is just too much good stuff.

For now, we'll invite you to cozy up with two exceptional back-to-back shows, shows with precision and clarity, shows with more than a lion's share of exploratory jams, and most importantly, shows that were simply a damn good time for all. Highlights from night one include the bookends of a spectacular "Help>Slip!>Franklin's" and an epically intricate "Morning Dew" followed by a classic cover of "The Weight." Night two, is the sleeper hit, with flawless playing from start to finish, the set list inviting you to find new favorites in top-notch renditions of "Foolish Heart" or "Victim Or The Crime," and if that's not one of the finest versions of "Desolation Row" Bobby ever did do! We would be remiss if we didn't mention that these shows were among Brent's last and they are some of his finest of the era at that.

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOL. 40: DEER CREEK MUSIC CENTER, NOBLESVILLE, IN 7/18 & 19/90 was recorded by Dan Healy and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman.

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November 18, 2021 - 9:06am

#551

hendrixfreak

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GarciaLive 17

Is turning out to be a delightful sample of Jer's band with K & D, Kahn and Tutt (RIP) circa '76.

While the rockers really rock, and the Motown tunes have the pulsing rhythm they need, I just listened to an initially somnabulent Friend of the Devil that turns out soulfully slow, not plodding as it did with the GD. Now, Russian Lullabye, a real low-dynamic treat that features Jer / Kahn interplay.

The Motown tunes don't have the huge sound characteristic of the early '90s Jer band juggernaut, but rather a spare and sweet sound. Donna Jean's fine vocals really complement Jer's, especially in such a relatively low-volume setting. Keith, JK and Tutt are in fine form as well.

A most welcome addition to the Jer solo shelf. FWIW, recommended by HF.

Now I'll have to look for where the chronological gaps in my Jer collection exist, just to place future releases in my mind. His camp has only released one clunker -- the New Year's disaster with Nicky Hopkins, GarciaLive 5, 12-31-75 -- so they're batting average is considerably better than the GD's, though that's to be expected with the latter's far greater volume of releases.

Folks, don't forget the OSF releases. I'm unflinchingly buying every Jer solo release and OSF release and ~75% of all GD vault releases. And a jillion other archival releases. No wonder I'm a little short at the end of the month..... short, but happy. Just imagine Yosemite Sam laying down his pistols for a relaxing glass of firewater in the recliner with a pipeful of dine-o-mite.
November 18, 2021 - 7:07am

#552

hendrixfreak

Joined:
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keeping 'phrases of the day' alive

My tribute to "in your pants loud" and "bludgeoned by heavy metal."

Both excellent band names..........
November 17, 2021 - 6:01pm

#553

icecrmcnkd

Joined:
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Best, worst, loudest, etc

Loudest was probably bar bands because the venue is small and when you’re drinking you’re dumb enough to stand in front of a speaker.

Worst sound quality from a ‘professional’ band was probably Van Halen 2007 Philips Arena. Volume was way too loud (sound guy had to beat Spinal Tap and go to 12) and all the instruments blurred together. And I was on the floor to the right of the soundboard. Then to pour salt on the wounds, the sound system failed for Eddie’s solo and we could only hear the speakers on the stage. At one point Eddie stopped playing and threw up his hands in frustration.
Can’t blame Philips Arena for Van Halen’s poor sound quality, I saw Roger Waters there 3 times and D&C 2 times and the sound quality was excellent for all of them.

GD 5-12-74 Reno
I wasn’t there but was told that the Wall of Sound could be heard quite a ways away and people complained.

2017 Rolling Stones played GA Tech’s football stadium. My house was 6 miles away and I could hear music, not clear enough to determine what was being played, but you could tell it was music and not industrial rumble.

Simonrob with phrase of the day: chemically compromised.
Was it Simon? Can’t scroll down and check while typing. An old version of this site did allow you to do that.

Gary Farseer,
I saw The Who July 89 (a week after I saw GD at Alpine) row 32 floor of the Pontiac Silverdome. That was awesome!! It was the greatest hits show which I actually wanted to see more than a complete Tommy. There are several of the PPV shows from that tour on utoob.

Doing my first spin of Garcia 17 as I type this. I prefer complete shows rather than compilations and chop jobs, but I’ll take all the ‘76 JGB I can get.

I believe that early bird pricing for DaP 2022 subscription ends today.
DaP 42 + bonus should be announced before the full price subscription window closes.

Deep thoughts with Jack Handy:
Why would you pay full subscription price when you could have gotten early bird pricing?
November 17, 2021 - 5:41pm

#554

deadfeat1

Joined:
July 3, 2008

First->Last

First Show - Beach Boys 11/23/66 Baltimore Civic Center with Chad and Jeremy opening. We all wore ties and sports coats and the ushers wouldn't let us stand

First Dead - Capital Center 7/29/74 w/ Phil and Ned at intermission

My wife's first Dead- RFK 1973 and second Watkins Glen - I think she got off to a good start!

Loudest show - The Guess Who at Loyola College in Baltimore around 1970 while I was in high school. Ear blisteringly loud and uncomfortable for a smallish gym.

Last show with major acts The Peach Fest in 2019
November 17, 2021 - 4:51pm

#555

nappyrags

Joined:
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oh and mas loud too

was a show I didn't go to but friends did...Blue Cheer, Pink Floyd & Jeff Beck late July '68 Shrine Expo Hall...$3.50 at the door
November 17, 2021 - 4:39pm

#556

Gary Farseer

Joined:
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Who?

Speaking of the Who, my favorite production so far is the PPV of 1989 with Patti Labelle singing Acid Queen. I paid for the PPV and still have the VHS tapes but I also bought it on DVD when it came out. Really thought Simon Phillips on drum brought back the missing spark. Sounded incredible live thru the smaller BBS I had at the time.

Speaking of 1989 wish Dave would remaster the Summer Solstice show from 1989 PPV, including the whole video footage of crowd, an internal shakedown with artists and the whole intermission break. Ha, One can ask. I also ordered that PPV and it was a great night at home doing some dosed cranking...
November 17, 2021 - 4:19pm

#557

LedDed

Joined:
February 16, 2017

Loud Funk Railroad

Or is it Great Loud Funkload? Grand Farner Loadloud? I give up.

I'm not sure why, considering the occasional barrage of cheese from even the finest of the 1970s rock dinosaurs, that GFR get shit on so much. Perhaps most are only familiar with "We're An American Band," and the like, but the band were capable of some really good R&B covers and originals, such as "Bad Time," and "Some Kind of Wonderful."

At any rate, modern live sound has advanced SO much in even the past 10 years. Having seen both Eagles and Dead & Co. on their 2021 Fall tours, both had impeccable live sound that carried magnificently from the first row to the last (and D&C was outside at Red Rocks, mind you) with great clarity and punch - without being overly loud.

The technology has just gotten so much better - you can get a quality bang your head rock and roll experience up front, closer to the banks of PA speakers as well as backline if you want it - without blowing your eardrums. Roger Waters hands down had the best live sound I have ever heard both on The Wall tour as well as the Dark Side that preceded it - flawless, impeccable live sound that I could not imagine being any better without coming from inside my head.

I have residual tinnitus that comes in and out all the time from a lifetime of musical enjoyment. The weird covid shit floating around everywhere seems to have exacerbated it for me as well as many others I know. I don't have it as bad as many and I refuse to let it affect my quality of life. I try to ignore it when it comes on until I forget it's even happening, and then for all practical intents and purposes, it isn't. Zen Jedi mind over matter.

It was also at Red Rocks in the early 1990s when I totally blew out the hearing on my right side. I was more of a metal dumb ass then, went to see Scorpions, Great White and Mr. Big. Nothing wrong with that kind of party, but we got there late and made the ill-fated decision to get up into the first couple of rows.

First couple of rows all the way to the right. So we spent the show facing due left and were literally bludgeoned by heavy metal PA for hours on end. Now it was nothing new to leave a venue with my ears ringing, but it was entirely new to wake up the next day deaf in my right ear. Not totally deaf, but everything sounded like when you put a seashell up to your ear. People's voices sounded out from under a wet blanket. Day two after the show, the hearing started to come back, and to this day my right ear has fully recovered and is just as good (bad?) as my left one.

My buddy had the same experience. While sustained hearing damage may have been justifiable to see Jimi Hendrix or the Who back in the day, seeing this ho-hum metal triple bill was surely not. Thank God we persevered.

Cheers!

\m/
November 17, 2021 - 4:03pm

#558

proudfoot

Joined:
August 2, 2020

Captain Beyond

Captain Beefheart

Captain Sensible

and

Captain Trips
November 17, 2021 - 2:53pm

#559

simonrob

Joined:
June 7, 2007

Captain Beyond

Now there is a name from the distant past. I saw them at Bickershaw Festival in 1972. They played on the Saturday before Captain Beefheart. They were just average as I recall. Do they really still exist? It seems that they may have improved with time, lots of time.
November 17, 2021 - 2:32pm

#560

Gary Farseer

Joined:
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Wish I had the time

I am so far behind on posting...

Loudest ever The Steve Morse Band in really tiny club. Stood maybe 3 feet from left PA stack. I still like to crank my BBS but have started to have some tinnitus in left ear, where my head was next to the stack. The Who, and I know the Who in 1976 set the Guinness World Record for awhile, was loud but Yes 1976 on the crab nebula tour was really loud as they were in my home town arena that holds 11,000 but only had about half attendance. They had basically the same PA as the shows they would do the next week at RFK and JFK. Even a song like Wonderous Stories was loud. Was a awesome show. Other times seeing Yes was more balanced and in my opinion the only band that had a sound anywhere close to matching what Bear, Healy, The Meyers, and Don Pearson (and others) created. The 1976 tour was with Patrick Moraz and included Sound Chaser and the Gates of Delirium. Then right there with them was Blue Oyster Cult in 1977 and 1981. For these shows we learned to sit in the back of the arena dead center to get the full force of the PA. Have a lot more to write about this and how it relates to Dead releases.

Wanted to say Thanks to Doc for including me last week in a Deadication, always feels good to be accepted.

Hopefully more tomorrow.

G

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18,000 happy Dead Heads could not be wrong. Deer Creek, my how you deliver.

We're closing the books on DAVE'S PICKS 2021 with not one but two - nearly - complete shows from Noblesville, IN 7/18/90 & 7/19/90. Yes, we've packed it all on four CDs, save for that second night encore which we promise you'll get to hear in the very near future. Sometimes there really is just too much good stuff.

For now, we'll invite you to cozy up with two exceptional back-to-back shows, shows with precision and clarity, shows with more than a lion's share of exploratory jams, and most importantly, shows that were simply a damn good time for all. Highlights from night one include the bookends of a spectacular "Help>Slip!>Franklin's" and an epically intricate "Morning Dew" followed by a classic cover of "The Weight." Night two, is the sleeper hit, with flawless playing from start to finish, the set list inviting you to find new favorites in top-notch renditions of "Foolish Heart" or "Victim Or The Crime," and if that's not one of the finest versions of "Desolation Row" Bobby ever did do! We would be remiss if we didn't mention that these shows were among Brent's last and they are some of his finest of the era at that.

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOL. 40: DEER CREEK MUSIC CENTER, NOBLESVILLE, IN 7/18 & 19/90 was recorded by Dan Healy and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman.

Ah Stoltzie

4/24/72 RTR - the release that turned me into a casual Dead listener. Sugar Magnolia came on in the smoky basement of a home poker game shortly after it came out. I looked at the guy whose house we were at and said in a British accent "what's this mate?" And the rest was history. Still think it's the best version, but you know, you never forget your first Sugar Magnolia.

I'm with you on the 8/1/73, 6/10/73, and 11/19/72. I would add Chicago 7/25/74 to that list. Really want that last '74 Dark Star with the early Slipknot! after it.

Would still very much like the Boston Tea Party shows from the end of 1969 into New Year's. It's unreal how long a Dave's Pick 1969 drought it's been. Back to back Bonus Disc releases with 6 & 10, and then crickets for 8 years.

A few thoughts

7 25 74 yes KF agreed

Glad to have 2 23 74 coming our way

69 shows YES weeee neeeed moooore, Dave

Yesterday of all days

I drive home from Oregon in glorious GD goodness

Pick up son and his GF from airport on the way

Get to my house

Stove/oven and an electrical outlet not functioning

WTF

yin yang

For those with short memories

Trump was the one throwing millions at the drug companies in the2020with the instructions to get a vaccine now! What were the Dems doing? Saying it will never work, it will take 5 years blah blah. Harris claimed she would mess it up. Wtf he wasn’t developing it By the way I’m not anything close to a Trump supporter, as a matter of fact I resigned from the Republican Party in June 16 of 2016 when they nominated him. How many here left the Dems when they nominated a self entitled criminal in ‘16 or a clearly deficient old man in 2020. No just interested in historical accuracy

Best to all

Hi all, I just wanted to wish all you grate people on this forum the best of christmases, restful holidays, and a wonderful, safe and healthy new year!

I've said this before, but it bears repeating: I really enjoy the conversations here, I learn a lot about other music to check out, and I feel like this is a place where there is interesting, informed conversation about the best band in the world, and my favorite band. Thanks, all!

Snafu got into the brown acid

FDT

Meanwhile...

The gorillas at the zoo are cool

Canned heat

Try 1971 'whiskey and wimmen' with john lee hooker on harp and vocals. Happy holidays guys.

Alan Wilson…

On harp. JLH didn’t play harp and you can hear him in amazement as to how the Blind Owl can keep up

Snafu

I meant harmonica.

Christmas is the day that holds all time together.........

Yo! Rockers!!!!

Christmas is the spirit of giving without a thought of getting. So if anybody out there needs some 1971 Christmas joy in their stocking, you know where to find me! The excellence of a gift lies in its appropriateness rather than in its value........

Christmas to a child is the first terrible proof that to travel hopefully is better than to arrive.........

Happy and safe holidays to all, and rock on!!

Doc
Christmas is a season for kindling the fire for hospitality in the hall, the genial flame of charity in the heart......

Hooker 'N' Heat

That's an amazing album. Not very seasonal - but that version of "Burning Hell" is corrosive. John Lee talks about Pigpen inbetween songs, too-dissing his cooking. I presume that's the same Pigpen.

its Christmas

and I'm sure no one here wants to hear the ravings of a trumpian, so let's all be thankful that the orange loser is not in power anymore and be done with it.
The best xmas present ever, trump in jail.

Daverock

You are correct, sir. Canned/Hooker combination is sweet as honey. Hooker adds that voice that you can't find anymore. Legendary. It is going to be a long, long road to 74' winterland, and Baltimore. If you signed up for the early pigeon subscription, it is even that much better.

Dick's Picks Vinyl Question

Ok, everyone gave me enough amazon gift cards I was able to buy a copy of DP36 in vinyl. (missed it by this much when it came out!!) Just for argument sake it was 350 (new/unopened)

My question is how many of the dicks have been put out in vinyl? I have 8, 26, 19 and now 36. Am I missing any?

Hope everyone had a super Christmas and Santa left you everything you ever wanted!

Dennis: Dick's Picks Vinyl Question

I believe DP 1 though 5 have been reissued on vinyl.

Dicks Picks on vinyl

Dennis - I think 24 came out too-3/23/74. I am not 100% sure - I didn't get it. There was one from 1974 that I dithered about...and while I was trying to make my mind up, it disappeared off Amazon. Whichever 1974 show it was - the last time I saw it was on Discogs...for hundreds of pounds

Two cool shows ten years apart.

12/26/69 and 12/26/79

12-26-70...we were

At the El Monte Legion Stadium (of Frank Zappa fame) for the start of a three day run...one of those night's had an "Easy Wind" that was so good and powerful I thought the back wall of the arena was going to blow out...

12-26-79 DP 5

With the "Uncle John's" 2nd set sandwich is another fine listen for today...

El Monte December 1970

Now therez a box opportunity

Real Gone Dicks

DiP 19 recently came out on on vinyl Real Gone, and I grabbed me one. I think I kind of panicked.

Last year Real Gone put DiP 36, which is one of my 3-4 most favorite of the whole series, but money was tight, and I hesitated and it sold out and then I regretted it. So when they announced they were doing 19 I ordered it immediately, even though to me it's only a very good and maybe not great show. But I'm still glad to have it. Not sure how many others they've done on vinyl but they've done quite a number DiPs and Road Trips on seedy. It's worth it to subscribe to their email newsletter if you're looking for that stuff.

Just btw, I received a vinyl copy of the Goat Head Soup reissue for Xmas, and I'm enjoying it more than expected. I really only wanted it to get the 'Brussels Affair' live set, which is some of very best live Stones on record IMO, but the studio album is better than I remember. Lots of songs I'd forgotten all about (Winter, Silver Train, Hide Your Love) are actually really good. Also never noticed what a major contributor Bill Wyman was on that record: very melodic, tasty bass lines throughout. I'll say it again: to me, the Stones haven't sounded like the Stones since he retired. And of course the Brussel stuff is amazing.

Speaking of Real Gone Dicks: One thing thing that I'm pretty sure was just exactly as bad as I remember is 2020. I refuse to rise to the bait and try to list all the ways that **** failed to address the public health crisis that was killing thousands of Americans per day for months at a time. (Who has the time?) I'll just say this: if you're going say in the middle of a crisis "I take no responsibility," then you don't get to come back later and say "I want to take credit."

Giving 9 8 73 another try

No complaints

But

"Official release" worthy? Dick was keen on 9 8 73?

Ooooodd

Luckily we got the St. Louis box

12/26,27,28/70 Legion Stadium

Nappy, cool show, I've never heard these before. P.F., yeah these would make a great box set.

Crow

Thanks for finding the words. In it for a penny, in it for a pound.

Goats Head Soup

Check the liner notes on Goats Head. There ain't a Stones album from the Bill
Wyman era where he contributes less. Keith & Mick Taylor played bass on many
of the tracks. Apparently Wyman either wasn't invited those particular days or was
out sailing on his yacht ... An underrated effort by the Rolling Stones - last good
lp from the MIck Taylor era. Brussels is the live gold standard for the that line-up!

It’s Christmas

Not interested in the raving of haters on either side Trump or Biden/ Clinton

well said Crow

I love how you x'ed out its name lol.

Anniversary shows 12/27/79, 80, 81, 82,83

Big fun at the Oakland Auditorium and the S.F. Civic.

The Stones vs Mighty Baby

It;s a great album, Goats Head Soup - maybe not as funky as Exile, but the actual songs may be better in some respects. And The Brussels Affair is my favourite live album of theirs.

It's a pity Stones box sets always cost so much ( Black Sabbath's are even worse) When you compare the cost of a Stones box to the cost of, say, the 6 cd Mighty Baby retrospective, the latter works out about three times cheaper. And if you were to ask me which I played the most, the answer would be....The Mighty Baby.

Great Dead shows at Oakland December 1979. 12/26 and 12/28 are anyway. The 26th features maybe my favourite jam of theirs with Brent at the wheel.

The Stones Vs Mighty Baby

No contest. In my house Mighty Baby wins hands down. That's like Max Bygraves Vs Tom Jones.

Every so often...

I listen to So Many Roads release from...a while ago

I really like it

I would love another one like it

There must be a bunch of great music in shows that can't be released as full shows for whatever reasons

I'd buy it

Got a joke for ya

I AM AT AN AIRPORT!

Punch line....

....dealing with the airports these days.

So. Many. People.

Sooooo many.....people

And

OUR FLIGHT GOT CANCELLED.

HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

Punch an airline in the nose today, kids!

Anniversary show 12/28/79

42 years ago today , I was at the Oakland Auditorium for a killer show with the good ole Grateful Dead, what a blast!

Major jeally btk

I have good memories of that show on cassette.

Been a Long Time

Listened to 12/29/77 DP 10 all the way through for the first time in ages . That is some quality Wolf era '77. Terrapin Station really rocks on this one.

The Brussels Affair is great. Ladies and Gentlemen...The Rolling Stones is also an outstanding must have from the Exile Tour the previous year (best of 4 shows) released as a movie. There are a few different songs and a few better performances (check out Happy, Tumbling Dice, Bitch, Love in Vain, Sweet Virginia, and Dead Flowers on L&G). The Blu-ray sounds much better than the CD because it 's in 5.1 Surround Sound. I think Keith's vocals are bit better on L&G as well. The Brussels Affair on the other hand has a Midnight Rambler and Can't Always What You Want that may be the live GOATs; then there's Dancin' with Mr. D and Heartbreaker live, which I find more raw and exciting than the studio versions. I'm going back to back on these now....

Re: Major Jello

Agree.. what a run. I have fond memories of this show on CD.

Jug of Love

I went back to that Mighty Baby box set, and it really is superb. I can't think of any other British band that could jam as freely as this, without reverting to blues rock. If, having already got the signature albums, you passed this by, Simon, I highly recommend it. Great to hear so much of that Glastonbury set from 1971 that was featured on one side of that album all those years ago. Its not Daves Pick standard sound wise, but its infintley better than that side on the Glastonbury L.P.
I never saw them live - but I did see guitarist Martin Stone during his brief time with the Pink Fairies. It was 1976. I was 19. I don't remember a darned thing about it.

Dead of the day -3/17/68 from 30 Trips. Grrreat. Lovelight, when it still sounded fresh, kicks things off in fine style. I've only played the first two songs, so the best is yet to come.

Anniversary show 12/28/83 S.F. Civic

38 years ago today, I was at the S.F Civic for a knockout show with the Dead. I put this show on my top 10 list of Grateful Dead shows I've attended. December, what a great month for Grateful Dead shows, I think they could put out a box set of December Grateful Dead year end shows : 12/68, 12/69,12/70, 12/71, 12/72, 12/77, and on and on.

McDonald and Giles

ring any bells?

"sunbells rain down in a liquid profusion"

BTK should be a vault release consultant

gotta check out that 12/28/83 sometime

R.I.P. John Madden

A Bay Area Legend, I was a huge fan of the Oakland Raiders back in the 1960s.

Last 4, all today

8-23-68 153116.8trackmix.gems (playing now, on Caution)
12-28-91 UM.144626.dm.miller
9-9-87 UM.106823.cm.miller
12-28-69 8999.cotsman

A grease sandwich with 2 anniversaries.

A raise of the glass to...

John Madden

A legend is a legend

sun bells rain down...

Looks like one of Peter Sinfield's pearls of wisdom - though I'm not sure he was on board that early on.
I do like the lyrics of some of the psych/prog rock bands from the late 60's early 70's. I was listening to the Tyrannosaurus Rex album "Prophets Seers and Sages The Angels of the Ages" yesterday - a sample of the words?-
"A cobra seer with the puntured ear
Slaughtered a Malayan Sun bear
Night stood erect with bronzen haunches
Zapped the seer gave the bear back to us."

Genius. They don't write 'em like that anymore.

Dave the Rock and lyrics

Reminded me a little the The Bewlay Brothers by Bowie.

Now there be some great lyrics they don't write anymore! :-)

Dennis - Bewley Brothers

That's a truly great song - one of Bowie's best. Both that, and the album that preceded it, "Man Who Sold The World" are full of strange and wonderful songs. I do like records that somehow manage to be both profound and absurd at the same time.

Phish had to cancel their NYE shows at MSG due to covid....

....but, lo and behold, they are going to play a 3 set show on NYE without an audience on their app and YouTube channel. Starts at 5:30 pm EST sharp.
Did I mention its free??
Pardon my French, but that's pretty fucking cool of the band. They remind me a lot of the Grateful Dead in that they just want to play. And appreciate their phans which is payed forward.
Oh, and it might snow in Vegas tomorrow lol.

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