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    Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

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    Bickershaw again

    Finishing up as I write.
    Highlights: Dark Star, The Other One, Lovelight (Jerry!).
    The line-up for this festival is astounding. Woodstock level of mud too.
    DR, guessing you've heard Hawkwind's performance. Good?
    Cheers

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    Is that true, though, that there was more repetition of songs during the E72 tour than others in the late 60's and 70's?
    I haven't checked it out, but listening to shows, I always get a sense that they had a core group of songs that they leaned on during specific tours. It was the same listening to the 1973 box that has just come out. There weren't any shows that were wildly different from any other - possibly 6/10/73. That has a different feel than the earlier ones.

    That's not a criticism - the more they played specific songs - especially the ones incorporating jams, the better they got to know them and the more they were able to re-interpret them. Part of the ongoing mystery - especially from late 1971-1974. Maybe.

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    The make up show.
    Yeah 1stshow, there is definitely a looooot of repetition! Lol
    But yeah, all good, perhaps getting a little burnout, though I haven’t had a lot of good, sit down sessions.
    By necessity, some I’ve been just streaming on crappy work device, (or I’d be still doing this months from now and I’m getting itchy for some other Dead ) I’ve tried to hit those shows multiple times.
    5/13 was one, and another first time show.
    I thought it was a mostly well played show, especially considering it was another cold outdoor show.
    Loved JG joking about a movie and playing drive ins lol
    The PITB seemed a little different, and awesome! Oh, loved Pig making Europe sounding police sirens on the organ during the first spacey part of TOO, another beauty. Nice how their starting to work He’s Gone into the flow of the set.
    Don’t have my info here, but believe this might be the first show without a Good Lovin, which no offense, but I am getting burnt on. Have really been enjoying the other stuff, especially Hurts Me Too and Mr Charlie! And I need to learn the rest of the words to ChinaTown Shuffle as I can’t get the chorus outta my head lol.
    In fact slightly light on the grease, perhaps the chilly cold and being on the road, or maybe time limits? This show was a little shorter by E72 standards, more like a “normal” Dead show.
    Wonder if that was due to having to get back on the road, the cold, or…?
    Overall another great show, though if hard pressed I don’t think I’d include in top five or whatnot…
    Kudos to them though in spite of being less than ideal circumstances and this far into the tour etc

    Oh, I think the repetitiveness and lack of certain songs was totally by design.
    Always good to have as many good versions of songs to attempt to choose from. Nothing worse than wanting a certain song badly but only having a so so version…
    They had all those new songs they wanted to get out, or try to, so I can fully understand not doing too many other recently released songs.
    Making the album was a big part of the tour and after hating their studio stuff versus the great live albums, they were trying to make an album, but live in front of grooving people. Same sorta MO they did with In The Dark. Kinda surprises me they didn’t use this approach more often since it obviously worked so well for them.
    And perhaps unknown to some, but even though they played all tracks live, they did go back and clean up and/or sweeten some things in the studio afterwards, so really a sorta highbred album. Same with Skullfuck.
    Ok, on to 5/16/72 and a world radio broadcast!
    Onward!

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    Just started Bickershaw and it occurred to me that 12 shows into the tour there weren't all that many songs in the setlists from either Workingman's or American Beauty. A quick look to verify only found Sugar Mag and Truckin' from Beauty (whoops found a Brokedown too) and five out the eight from Workingman's with two of those played maybe once or twice in the tour. I knew going in to the full EU72 tour I was in for a lot of repetition in the setlists and having glanced at them beforehand saw the order of songs or placements were also similar, i.e. Casey Jones to end many a first set. So maybe knowing they were doing the album they did so many of the same ones to get a better shot at getting one that would be just exactly perfect for the album, more to choose from. Seems a bit opposite to their usual format of no format or you get what feels right that night. These shows are certainly not carbon copies by any means and I'm not complaining at all but just wanted to explore why they all sound a bit the same. Clearly some doing them all in a row impressions happening but not burnout at all. They are all just too good!
    Cheers

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    Errrrrr I mean Hendrixfreak?
    That’s just it, he was out and about in Montana and was supposed to be back end of August…
    Hopefully he’s just busy, wherever, and there’s no fuckery about?

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    I suspect that he is in the outback freeing his mind and prepping for the Fall equinox.

    Or maybe he went to Burning Man and is still stuck in the mud.

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    #Freethereels!

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    Just as we are about to poke through the concrete of the basement 6 floors under the vault.. they find us. Coincidence? Certainly not!

    Help, We're Being Repressed!

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    …I heard a rumor that that psycho loser Bobert kept saying “Hendrixfreak, Hendrixfreak, Hendrixfreak” at that Beatlejuice performance, and it was the final straw that got her booted!

    And I think maybe we lost Keithfan under there somewhere? Haven’t heard from him in fo ever…

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    HedrixFreak, HF, wherefore art thou?

    Hope he's alright.. we seem to occasionally lose people who (voluntarily) offer their services digging a tunnel under the vault to help free the reels. A hazardous occupation.

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Hey Jim,

That is quite the process and goal. You are my idol!

I also have used the DBPowerAmp to convert FLAC files to ALAC. Works really well, but I am still on 10.

I use the ALAC format with ITUNES and use Sonos at home.

I still use the physical copies in my wired system. Love the physical copies. Yes, old school.

Hey Waterbury 72 is a great show. Great two sets with good variety.

When you start a show with Big Railroad Blues, you know it is going to be good. Two many great songs to go through, but the Dark Star Drums Dark Star is funky and worth the time. Another enjoyable September 72 show. These guys are good.

We should be two weeks or so out from the 41 Seaside Chat. Baltimore.

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Foobar is good too.. in fact I find it easier to use.

Ok, sipping on some extra strong coffee, getting ready to spin some music and get some work done. I'm just barely behind but today should prove to be a good day.

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By the way, where is Oroborous and Bob t?

Hope all is well.

Who has a pick for tomorrow?

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Hope there were no cave ins.. That GOGD could dig, it'd be a shame to lose two more.

There's chatter of 3/19/77 on the listening to the river box thread. An interesting setlist and a high quality show.

Agree with Sixtus this run would make a great box set.

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Ha.. well, all I can say is 3/19/77 is a Bobby Dazzler. A top pocket find.

It's not often I reach for 1977, but I am in the mood and this one just sort of lurks.. probably haven't listened to it in 8 or 9 years. So yes.. why not hit it?

Edit: 3/19 tomorrow. It's been fake crisis after manufactured crisis today, none of which were my doing. Plus we are in the midst of a mini snowstorm. I am putting down my work, shutting off the PC and picking a show with Cold Rain and Snow. I've spoken my peace and counted to three.. it's a Cold Rain and Snow opener and snowstorm night, probably the beginning of 2/21/71. Have a bottle of pinot opened and might just grab a cold beer and hit the tub, shut my eyes and feel the snow hit my face. Yes, even the best of us get two fisted on rare occasions and for me, tonight qualifies. I never in my wildest thoughts would have imagined that I would be the responsible one which should really scare us all.. if true, humanity might be doomed.

Holy cow.. hoping 2022 delivers, 2021 was a well-intentioned dud. Rant over, absorbing and emitting good vibes.

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Great show, the Dead played great at all 3 of these shows. My brother and I sat up in the balcony that night. These 3 shows would make a great box set, let's hope they don't chop them up.

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I am here!! hope you all had a happy new year with your families!! All is well here in Rhode Island.... I've been on every so often mostly reading comments and then subconsciously playing shows like the 3/19/77 set II... Sorry i haven't been tossing out play of the day suggestions... been hiding out in June of 76 a lot lately. I know Jim threw out 6/29/76, I will never get tired out that show. I first got that tape back in 87.... i can listen to it every day and never get tired.... Have a good weekend all. Bob t

Who can name another show with a set II closing combo of Wharf Rat>Franklin's>Sugar Magnolia? No, it's not 10/15/76, that's Comes a Time>Franklin's>Sugar Magnolia. How many other Wharf Rat>Franklin's are there btw? Where's that DeadBase when I need it?!? :-P

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What a show. Both sets are hot and unique. Love the first set Estimated, Terrapin, Playing, Samson, Playing! Wow. And as others have said the second set just as good. Why isn't this show released? I don't think they have the reels for this run. This run was also their first time back to Winterland since October 74.

Hey, good to hear from you Bob t. Hoping for a good 2022, we are all due.

Was thinking 7/2/89 Foxboro for today. First show of the famous July 89 Tour.

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Said in the Arnold Horshack Welcome Back Kotter voice. It's my first show! 7-8-78
Also the 1-10-78 has WRAT>FRAN part.
Bonus points?
Cheers

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These reels exist somewhere... and I don't think it's the asshole with the trunks in the barn letting them rot, unless Rob Eaton was the source that originally circulated them. Whew.. nice show. Short but good second set, interesting set list, nice experimentation and willingness to take some risk.

We should thank Sixtus for mentioning this one.. hit the spot.

First show gets the prize. Nice WBK reference.

I forgot to thank dvikes for the Palace Theatre nod. Another great show with an interesting and varied setlist. That show also has these very interesting parts and a nice vibe, good swing.

7/2/89, this will be a virgin listen for me. It's got a To Lay Me Down, so I'm an enthusiastic all in. I doubt if I will finish it tonight, so into tomorrow.

Have a good rest of the weekend folks.. stay warm and to proudfoot (if he ever ventures to this thread) stay dry.

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7/2/89

Another show of multiple in a row suggested here with these twisted, unique set lists. Opening with PITB>Crazy Fingers. Are you kidding me?

Not the smoker show of the tour, not legendary.. but really, if you had to plan out the entire tour in hindsight, is there a better way to start then this? Me thinks they knew what they were doing.

I listened to the Charlie Miller (no surprise there), but the Kevin Tobin is really excellent. I wonder which one is better?

I don't know.. I could comment forever.. but my comments are: Solid show, the Queen Jane, To Lay Me Down. Cassidy is priceless.
The second set was well played and tight, nothing legendary but solid nonetheless. My favorite was The Mighty Quinn, but I am biased.. I have a soft spot for that song.

Well played, well executed, great recording.

Hey, nice work Jim. I am a big fan of this show. I believe this was the Meet up at the Movies show in 2016?

I watched this show on the tube. That playing in the band opener, fantastic. Crazy Fingers, Wang Dang Doodle! Come on. Great first set. Start the second set with Friend of the Devil, alright, again can't remember too many second sets that opened that way. At the end of He's Gone Mickey and Billy are positioned to go into Drums and Bob leaves the stage and Jerry says not so fast, and then takes them into Eyes of the World! So great. You have to see it. Love those Quinn the Eskimo encores as well Jim.
So they have this show already produced for the MUATM, why not release it for sale. Blur Ray mix? Man, I would buy it.

This show, Deer Creek and the three Alpine shows, all with video would make a pretty damn good box.
The rest of the month has already been released.

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Update your profile with your shows attended. I was wondering if you had caught the show on 9/15/82... :-)

Yes, bonus points for 1stshow7/08/78.... :-)

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Yea, I have to get around to that one of these days. It doesn't help that my wife threw out all my ticket stubs so that task is sort of a downer in that regard.

I only caught one show in 82, in Baltimore on the Spring tour (my first).

I didn't get the memo that you must see them multiple times in a tour until 1983. Silly me. 83 also marks the first time I traveled to see shows. It all started to sink in, technicolor. what fun

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Haven’t been listening to any dead lately, but love this show so much I had to comment.
Agreed, not the best of the tour etc, but better then many, and overall a damn solid show, 89 style, with a great set list!
DV, concur, good one to view and they’ve already done some of the work, release it!

Go VIKS

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Worse, or on par with my Mom taking my (now Vintage) Rock T's to Goodwill?... :-P

Go Bills! They finished strong OB.

Another bad year for the Vikes and heads are rolling.

I always wondered what happened to mine.

mmmMOM! Dammit, I bet your mom and my mom were in cahoots. bygones..

Edit: Makes my memory drift to the day my Mom found where I hid my stash. Just how did she figure this out? It's starting to make sense now. Our moms were all in on it, it was a giant conspiracy.. one day everything was fine, the next there wasn't a nook or cranny in the entire house safe enough to hide a little bag of buds. I wonder who's mom was first to put all this together?

The flush heard round the world.

Back to your regularly scheduled Day Job encore (the best I could muster under the circumstances).

Edit: What's on tap for this week? What eras are we going to dance around (and in)?

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Hey Jim, I am open. Let us know.

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Been working outside today.. I hit Jerry Live 17, then 16 as I had not listened to them yet. Man.. there's a good bit of empty space on those CDs. Killer Filler is not on their menu, but enjoyable nonetheless. Nice mixup, 76 then 91. That Lucky Old Sun.. gets me every time.

So a pick for tomorrow you say. We have been on such a roll lately I fear I can't outdo what's just been done. I really am in the mood for something I think we hit ready in the two years we have been doing this, 12/31/76 or something from the June 76 box. I have no idea why... 76 is my muse at the moment. That opiated transect groove perhaps.

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Jim, 76 is always welcome. Live at the Cow Palace is a multi track gem. Too many great things to say about this show and release, so anytime.

Or the June box works as well. One of the Beacon shows?

You name it.

Let's keep it rolling.

Edit: Thinking of 76. Do they have the reels in the house for 8/4? That would be a great release at some point.

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I think HendrixFreak was at this one. I'd have to think if they don't have the reels someone does... which means they will wind up in the vault eventually. They do exist.

76 is not always in my bag, but when it is I go on and on until it isn't. There is an infectious groove here, something between 74 and 77. 12/31/76 might just be the very best of this transitive year.

So do 12/31 tomorrow? June will come again someday.

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Compare and contrast 12-31-76 with 2-26-77.

They are kind of like a 76/77 hybrid, elements from each year.

In December is listened to 3-18,19,20-77 (not consecutively) and they seemed like the bridge from 76 to May 77.
So yes Dave, bring on the March 77 Winterland Box. Small and compact, yet big in stature, like the June 77 Winterland Box.

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Live at the Cow Palace it is.

Yes, Conekid, the Swing show is really good. Let's get it in the rotation for tomorrow.

Oh and I would think we will get a new seaside chat soon.

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I’m not playing along, I listened to all 5 of those shows at some point in the last month or so.

The Winterland shows are not listed as being returned as reels, but they are listed as being returned on cassette.

19. 3/18/77 Winterland = 2
20. 3/19/77 Winterland = 3 *= +1 CASSETTE = TOTAL 4 CASSETTES FOR 3-19-77*
21. 3/20/77 Winterland = 3

That’s from the list of returned reels site. I’d post the connection to the location on the internets, but you know….

But you can search for it:
Jerry Garcia’s Middle Finger: The New Alphabet: ABCD

Yes, a seaside chat in the near future.

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I had a shit show for a day, but fun was overshadowed by work (hoping it's temporary).

Feel free to proceed, 12/31/76 > 2/26/77 is an epic quest. Give me a bit to catch up.

Not poking fun or being sarcastic... but I am hoping Billy the Kiddd chimes in with commentary on being there. First or third person is ok with me. I love epic tales all things GD. What's not to love?

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But a show that I didn't go to. At the time, I was working as a sheetrock hanger, and I was so tired at the end of the day I went home and went to bed. I woke up later and listened to the show on the radio. Tickets were available the day of the show and I did think about going , but I was just to beat at the end of the day. My brother and all my friends went, they were talking to some older folks sitting behind them and the people said that their son was playing tonight, it was John Cipolllina's parents. Not only did the Dead play great that night, but Santana came on before the Dead and just played fantastic. I never cared for the Cow Palace, it was a big old place, I only went there once to see a Sharks game. My brother saw the Dead there in 1974. Of course the Beatles played there in 1965.. When the Who played there, Keith Moon passed out and couldn't play, so the Who got some kid out of the audience to play drums and finish the show. He certainly has a story to tell.

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A Marin county band that had Mario Cipollina in it that night. Parents came to see the other son. Had to look that one up. I was like, wait, John C. was there 12-31-78 wasn't he? Need to check them out now. I love bands with a horn section. Cool how these connections lead me to other music I'm unaware of.
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Great show! Love the slowed down post-hiatus era. Jerry was in his prime and the band was just exactly perfect.

Perfect, is right first show.

What strikes me about this show is not only how they performed that night but also the fact that the last time they played before this show was October 15 at the Shrine.
Nice first set, the grove is there and they close with that monster Playing. Jerry is definitely feeling it.
Second set is a monster. Start out with a fun Happy New Year Sugar Mag into a nice Eyes, they aren't rushing anything. Wharf Rat into a Bob Weir Good Loving. Yes, I do enjoy his versions, Samson, into a really well played Scarlet that you can kind of feel like it wants to go somewhere. One of my favorite versions of Around and Around, bring it down now! Next into a Help Slip drums that is rocking. Not Fade Away into a Morning Dew that is reminiscent of 5/26/72 or Winterland 74. A top 3 Morning Dew in my book. One more Saturday night then into a two song encore of UJB and We Bid you Goodnight! What a show! I think I only saw one two song encore in my short career in Alpine 89.
The recording is one of the best they have every released. The sound quality is A++. It is always special show for me to listen to.

Good idea Jim.

If you don't have this show, it is definitely worth pursuing and if you need a copy you know where to find me.

Okay, on to the Swing!

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.. but making progress. Took a break and did a little skiing with my son, he asks too many questions to listen and ski. Finally some decent conditions with a big snowstorm on the way. I love snow, it brings out the kid in me.. like that exact moment when you find out you get a snow day and don't have to go to work em I mean school.

I like the twofer idea and transition right into the Swing. These are two first rate shows, back to back. Both have unique setlists and expansive jams. Powerhouses of creative focus and energy, the recordings.. (in my best Mr. Burns accent) excellent.

Thanks for entertaining my indulgence.

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Such a great show. I shared my experience of that night a few months ago, especially with regard to that monumental Dew - my favorite for many reasons.

Think it might be time for a little contest for some GD schwag since we're in a bit of a lull waiting for more music. Sometime next week, right here.

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Sweet Bolo, that sounds like fun. Count me in.

The Swing, such a great show. So interesting to hear the new songs develop over time. Terrapin and Estimated. They pick up steam as the year progresses. Recording is great.

OB, how about those Bills? What a blowout. Allen and Diggs looked really good.

How about a pick Bolo?

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I know, incomplete and bastardized show. But that NFA>Black Peter>NFA - yowza! 24 minutes of Mr. Garcia demonstrating once again why he is the only guitarist I can listen to every day.

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Which source would you go with? My recollection has a bunch of tunes from other shows inserted into some of the archive entries to emulate a complete 10/6/77. I'd like to get a handle of how that show went down if even from an entry with a bunch of patches. Another show I'd like to hear is 2/6/79 Tulsa.

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10/6/77 it is.

Thank you Bolo.

Not sure on the source yet WTJ.

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Getting a bit of a snowstorm here in the Mid-Altantic. Made for a great chance to get a great listen of the second set while shoveling and the obligatory hot tub encore. It's a pretty long show and a classic, one of my favorite New Years efforts. Jerry's voice on much of this show is both well recorded and in it's prime, especially for the Eyes and Morning Dew. I never tire of this one, working to catch up today so Swing then on to 10/6/77 and I will be sure to add in the killer filler from UCSB at end of Dave's Picks 29.

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....I was going to recommend the Omni 3.28.89 but this sound good. I've never heard it. Maybe Atlanta for tomorrow?

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WTJ, I am listening to this show through the relisten app via Sonos. I have the third option on the list going which appears to be a straight SBD. Sounding good so far, but a long way to go.

The 89 Omni show sounds good for tomorrow.

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I need to pull down a more complete copy. I enjoyed what I heard. In addition to the NFA Black Peter sandwich, the Estimated was hot. My copy faded out just as Eyes started. I pulled this down before I documented what I had. Another reason to upgrade my digital universe with the best copy that circulates. Baby steps..

Great day of shoveling and listening to music

Took it out for a ride, another show I would not have listened to if it wasn't offered up here. Fun show, as stated we could use an upgraded recording at some point. The Eyes sounded good on the version I had going. The return of Dire Wolf, why did they drop this song for a while? FOD, Estimated, good stuff.
Yes, that NFA/Black Peter/NFA was part sweet and good UJB encore.
Hope you all make it through that strom out East.
Thanks for the pick Bolo.

On to the Omni and I see it is a Pearson Healy.

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Springer's Ballroom January 18 1970

Why? Why not?!!!

One of the first of the digital downloads. Worth revisiting. Everybody knows Portland, San Diego, and Corvallis. Give your ears a treat...........

Can't listen to the classics all the time, they'll get boring. Well, except for 4/28/71. And 9/20/70. And 5/26/72. And......well..........ah...........I'll shut up now and get down to the morgue. Some of us have to work, people are dying to see me........

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Yeah, 1/18/70 is a great show. They should just release whatever music they have of 1970 as one giant box set, that would be a knockout. If there was one year I could see all the Grateful Dead shows live, it would be 1970.

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We interrupt this thriving discussion to note that Soundings Mindful Media has uploaded a video of Dancing in the Street from Winterland in that year, and you might want to check it out. Now it is also true you can no longer put links in posts, and I am dancing in the street myself at the reduction in spam posts as a result. But hey, Deadheads are good at improvising, and you can probably figure out how to get to YouTube, and once you are there, you want to watch?v=9Rmzxzb4N_I Onward!