Grateful Dead

Im just gonna order it from Deadnet, I imagine they will have it for sale.; If they don't I'll order it from Amazon. I can listen to these 4 shows over & over again and never get tired of them.

Hamms the beer refreshing...check your PM's....

Perhaps not quite that, but I have found a copy on ebay -sold by someone almost within walking distance of where I live curiously. It all looks kosher, so fingers crossed.

Yes, it's been a favourite of mine since I first got a muddy sounding tape over 30 years ago. In my mind's eye I can still see the 8 year old daughter of my girlfriend at the time, writing the song list out for me on cassette box. She asked if she could do it - it wasn't child labour.

And will remain skeptical until I see an official announcement.

I’ve said before that maybe it is true but is delayed due to any of the various possibilities these days. Some retailers may have placed orders then leaked the info. Maybe it was supposed to be a past RSD release but got delayed, or maybe it’s the rumored ‘second 2020 Box’ that we never got.

It’s listed at some retailers as ‘SYEOR Exclusive’ which is a Rhino marketing campaign.

rhino-com/syeor

Replace the - with a .

That page doesn’t mention GD specifically but they could fall under the “and more!” statement.

So, I’ll remain skeptical until I see an official announcement, and then I’ll try to obtain a copy.

A few days ago I received a mail from Rhino with a list of Start Your Ear Off Right 2022 releases and 3/1/1969 was certainly on the list. Release date was 28 January.
It can also be found by going to the Rhino website and searching for "Start Your Ear Off Right 2022"

....I can get behind that. Because music is the best.

But didn’t click on the list of releases.

Thanks Simon.

If I could pick one year to go back and follow the Grateful Dead playing live, it would be 1970. The Dead had all those great new songs that year from Workingmans Dead and American Beauty, they were playing the acoustic and electric shows. playing at cool small venues. Fillmore West & East, Colleges. Super jamming on Dark Star, The Other One and Viola Lee Blues. Yeah, 1970 would definitely be the year I would pick to follow live shows by the Dead.

Assuming you couldn't land in late 1968, watch some shows and then join the crew, or stay on following them in perpetuity, then I'd choose 1972, especially if it meant hitting Europe with them, getting burnt at Veneta and not turning into Pole Guy, seeing Folsom Field and then the September tour of the East and that magnificent Fall from St Louis to Texas and all points in between. Close second would be 1974 to witness the glory of the Wall of Sound and the wonderful music that helped generate.

If I was hitting other bands, too, I'd do 1970 as well. I would start out at Fillmore East 2/11-13 with the Allman Brothers opening for the Dead at the Fillmore East, then fly across the pond to witness The Who destroy Leeds and Hull, England on 2/14-15. I'd catch as much of those three bands as I could, while getting in Mad Dogs and Englishmen at the Fillmore East 3/27-28, which made up that live album. The Dead at Fillmore West 4/15 would be on the agenda, and that whole run, because I think they played with Miles Davis at that run. May would be the Dead college tour, June The Who's US tour starting June 7 at the Metropolitan Opera House for two shows complete with Tommy, July 4, I'd detour to the Atlanta Pop Fest, for The ABB opening and closing the fest, and Jimi Hendrix. Then up to Tanglewood, MA to see The Who's tour closer. Then I'd go back on ABB tour, which would be a logistical nightmare, but I'd get to see the Love Valley Festival July 17-19, then next show playing Central Park in NYC, then Boston Common, and back down for a bunch of shows in NC, including the one my dad went to at Joker's 3 in Greensboro. Last show I'd would be their Miami show August 26 where Tom Dowd brought Eric Clapton and the Dominoes to see the ABB, and stole Duane away from a few shows. Then across the pond to the Isle of Wight Festival for The Who with Entwistle debuting his famous leather skeleton outfit, Jimi Hendrix, The Doors, and many others among 600,000 people. Then back across to catch the Dead at the Fillmore East, where I make sure soundboard tapes are made, same for the Capitol Theatre 11/8/70. The rest of the time I might just hang out at the Fillmore East for a month, and Fillmore West for a month. I'd make sure to be there for just two other concerts 12/1 Derek and the Dominoes in Tampa with Duane, and the Allmans NYE at the Warehouse in New Orleans.

Road Trips 2.3 Wall of Sound WOW Eyes>China Doll, WR Suite>Jam>TOO>It's a Sin Jam>Stella Blue
Linda Rondstadt Greatest hits 1 & 2 What a voice
Trio Complete Collection - Dolly, Emmylou and Linda Sweet harmonies
GD 3/29/90 with Branford Bird Song is amazing-to think he had never heard the song before that night
TTATS 2/22/69 WOW

Also finally able to watch Ray Davies' 1984 film-making debut as director, writer and composer of the hour-long "Return to Waterloo", a collaboration with Channel Four. I've been trying to track this down for years, and my sweetie gave it to me as a birthday present.

If you read the fine print on that time machine, there is a disclaimer concerning the possibility that you ARE Pole Guy. This discovery could spoil your romp across 1972.

Just sayin'..................

If you read the instructions, it says to avoid setting the dials to 8/27/72. Apparently, the pole in question was toxic, which would not have been a big deal if Pole Guy was wearing proper attire. A tragic moment in GD History. A raise of the glass to Pole Guy, careful with the wayback folks.

To state the obvious, is that the songs on "Workingman's Dead" and "American Beauty" had only just been written. I have read in various places that Altamont, the New Orleans bust, the death of Phil Lesh's father and Bob Weir's girlfiriend Frankie all directly inspired certain songs. So when they sang and played them, they were singing about their lives as they were being lived, in that moment. Inevitabley, with the passing of the time, the songs get more distanced from their source of inspiration. Some may suffer from this, and some may grow - but there is something special, for me, about the moment of creation - when something is being explored for the first time.

Other years have a similar quality - it must have been incredible to see them in 1968 when nothing remotley like it had ever been unleashed before

To add a layer, consider that Robert Hunter wrote all the words (except 'Operator') that captured the emotions and thoughts to which you refer, experienced by individuals and the group -- that's a feat, considering the lyrical craft in evidence. Lyrics that live inside millions of people and, arguably, permeated generations.

Truckin's "What a long, strange trip it's been..." is obvious, but how about some of the lines and the tone of, say, Attics of My Life, "where all the print is blurred..."

Just wow. When Hunter died, hot tears caught me by surprise.

I've always been curious about that time machine. Mr. Peabody and his boy Sherman travel as they are now. I was hoping we could go back with a Matrix style residual self image but without all the guns. (We're gonna need backup!) If it's 1970 I would be 13, but with what I know now? Or maybe you get the experience AND the memory of it when you get back. Ideally I would be 21 or so with my 64 year old experiences intact but without the forgetfulness. I never read the instructions until after I've screwed it up though, so this could go badly. But what the hell, I'm in!
Cheers
Edit: Jim, are there fees involved? A dress code? Snacks and drinks served, or is it too short a flight? I think I'll wait until the snow melts if it's at your place in MD.

Very cool! They should just release whatever they have from 1970 as 1 big box set. That would be a knockout!

in the Vault. I finally looked up the show they released on vinyl only with the "Origins" comic book. It's a 30-minute slice (released) of a much longer show. And if they have it all in the Vault, then this will be my new mantra, bellowed at the top of my lungs as the Wayback Machine rattles and purrs prior to take-off:

08/21/68
Fillmore West - San Francisco, CA
Set 1:
Cryptical Envelopment
Drums
The Other One
Cryptical Envelopment
Good Morning Little School Girl
Alligator
Set 2:
Dark Star*
St. Stephen*
The Eleven*
Death Don't Have No Mercy*
Turn On Your Love Light
Encore:
Midnight Hour

*released on vinyl

Now that "Origins" has proved to be a pathetic flop, may we please have this '68 extravaganza in its entirety? I sense that this show would require buckling up or one risks the possibility of being thrown off the Wayback Machine. And who knows where you land when that happens....

I don't think Frankie Weir died until sometime later, perhaps in the early 2000's as a result of declining health perhaps related to Lupus? They broke up in 1975 I believe. I think her real name was Judy Azzara with Azzara being a married name.

I might not be 100% correct in the above, if anyone has any better detail please feel free to clarify.

To add another layer, I knew absolutely nothing about the origin of any of the songs on "American Beauty" when I first heard it -and I still thought it was wonderful. And still do. That's another layer of Robert Hunter's skill- not only did he write lyrics that seemed to express the feelings of band members, in doing so, he also got through to people as far away as me-a teenager living in another country. I think I've just re-phrased something you already said! Anyway.

And, yes, they should definitley release 8/21/68 in it's entirety. I don't think too many people would complain if they dropped the comic this time around.

All my "insights," in retrospect (that is, moments after I press "save") are painfully obvious, yet I post them anyway... Oh well, maybe that's how it goes in one's 60s... I'm only six months from 65 and still getting used to yelling "Get off my (shitty) lawn!" even when there's no one there. My hair and beard are getting long and I don't shower but every 4-5 days. Why bother?

Oh, my point. #41, which is 5-26-77 if memory serves (there I go again), seems to be generating zero excitement. I think this is because spring '77 is so well-represented by official releases that we all know what to expect. Sure, a real, reliably rockin show, but nothing we haven't heard before. Pleasure to be had? Certainly. But I'll bet they had this selected and mixed long ago, freeing up time and effort for this year's "projects" -- a box (apparently Rhino prefers 20-CD boxes, per Dave's Listen liner notes) and ... what else? Something else, as Dave said one project had to be bumped to 2023, they were so freakin' busy. So, perhaps, something related to the 50th of 1972? A six-show revisit of E72?? It's been out 11 years and individual shows are OOP.

Another amazingly obvious point: I'll bet there's a ton of film and audio left over from the GD Movie and 2024 would be the 50th and the time to release it. Okay, sonic issues could complicate matters (see Steal Your Face). I'm still not used to the heavy reverb-drenched 4-CD "movie soundtrack," but it established that they must have some audio in decent shape. I could see Dave & Co. dialing up all the complete audio that they have video for and putting it out, plus bonus audio. There's been total silence on this notion, indicating to me that a) it's possible, b) I'm laughably off the mark.

So, after PNW and Listen to the River, which delivered 13 full shows in my '71-'74 wheelhouse, I'm utterly without guesses as to the 2022 box. Still, I shamelessly say that it could be a location with shows over time (theme of aforementioned box sets) or a focus on an under-represented year such as '79. (Because it has a "7" in it and because they'll need 6-7 shows to hit Rhino's sweet spot. I'm less excited for the music (it's unknown), but will be fascinated by the choice. Oh yeah, it's January. Probably no news for 4-5 months...

29 days with a boot on my leg and 7 to go before I start rehab (on the ankle, that is). And I'm taking out my antsy-ness on my good brothers here. Oh cruel world!

First up , Jimmy Reed. box set, the Vee Jay years. What time is it? 10am. Ribs & Chicken , first beer Old Rasputin, My brother was fortunate to see Jimmy Reeds last show, I wish I was 21 I would have been there. Last show Jimmy Reed & Charlie Muslewhite what a great bill. Time to put that chicken on and crack another beer.

It would be great if Fall 1972 could be the subject of the next box-even though it featured in the last one. The shows I have heard from this period are so uniformally excellent that it wouldn't matter if they went back there again. In fact, they could release all of them.
I can't say the same for May 1977, though. I think I have got all the ones that have been officially released so far, and we all know now how well they were playing then. But I don't listen to all the ones I have got in any one 12 month period-which suggests I don't need another one. They skim the surface a bit for me.

Billy - life sounds good!

Slow morning...I keep listening to Attics of My Life, Brokedown Palace, and Stella Blue.

Next Box Set - well,.since my All Dark Star idea appears to have been ignored, I'll drop back to another monster box like E72. A group of 3 shows from each year, just the best sounding stuff, from 1968 through 1974. If each year features chronological shows just call it "The Runs".

I had expressed my wish for one show from each year of the first ten years, 1966-1975, and I got my wish -- except with 20 extra shows I didn't need. Prior to LIsten to the River I had stumped for fall '72 and we got three killer fall '72 shows. Dave L. did say that a fall '72 box "has to happen sometime." (I paraphrase.) Why not 2022? I was thinking two nights in Paris and the Amsterdam/Rotterdam shows for a finely tuned mix remaster release. But if 1972 turns into a theme, then we're more likely getting an expanded Ace and the earliest '72 show and/or a fall '72 box. As DR mentioned, there is a ton of fall '72 and six shows would hardly dent it.

Otherwise Dave L. goes rogue and does 20 CDs of 1980s cassettes... and I don't see that selling. But I'm a notoriously bad salesman.

Maybe the best way forward would be an expanded Ace, a couple of RSD vinyl releases from Europe 72 ( although I know not everyone goes for vinyl) and....a Fall 72 box.

I don't see that happening. For the most part they have been restricting box sets to multi-track or good sounding, well recorded reel to reels. I don't see them breaking that precedent any time soon.

It's more likely if we see an 80's show make it's way into a box, it's either multi track or they could possibly stick with their tent pole model where they might surround a theme related box with some great recordings with a tangent cassette master or two that slightly missed the mark.

If there was ever pent-up demand for some of these cassettes being leaked en masse, it would probably be the Greeks, Alaska or the Frost.

I just do not see a box of cassette masters. I don't mean to burst anyone's bubble but if nothing else they have been consistent regarding this, the exception being the 80's shows in Boxzilla.

I could see a fall '72 but I am not sure the timing is great for this with the meat of the St. Louis box being the heart of Fall '72. One other nugget.. Lemieux is on record somewhere saying they are missing reels from the BCT 72 run. That may be true or might have been true at one point in time, but the reels do exist somewhere.. and as we all know the reels almost always seem to find their way back to the vault.

So what's in the next box? I think it will be a grand surprise. (then again the last time I said grand surprise we got a Giant(s) Box, which was a grand surprise).

Jim, I agree with you about the box sets, as far as the Greek and Frost goes. They could put out box sets of some of the shows from these venues, but I doubt that they would put out a complete Greek or Frost , box of all the shows, not all the shows are knockouts. I feel the best shows at the Frost were 1982 & 1985, there are other good shows but I feel those are the best.

Frost 82 has always been on my wish list for official releases. Two very well played(and sung) shows from start to finish, with great set lists. Would make a perfect little square box release, just like the RFK 89 release.
Frost 85 is smoking, but Jerry's voice is pretty bad so I'm not sure we'll see that one anytime soon.
Greek Theatre 81 was the best in my opinion, but I don't believe the tapes are in the vault.
Then there's the Warfield for the Big Box, but who knows if they have the master tapes(cassettes?)

I agree with Jim - I cannot see them releasing an 80s box set mastered from cassettes. I recall all of the hub bub when some of those shows were released. All the talk was pretty much about how bad the audio was. It seems like too great a risk. I would think "bad" product would hurt the overall fan sponsorship more than "repetitive" product (and just to be clear, "bad" means the audio quality, not the performance).

It's been so long - maybe the Greek run everyone talks about to cover the first half of the year, and the 3 Boston Tea Party shows to end the year (the set lists are incredible). Safe to assume they're all in the Vault?

Not that I wouldn't be completely into a '72 box, it just seems unlikely since St. Louis just came out. But they could sure throw one in as DaP 43 or 44. I would enjoy any of these:

7/18/72
8/24/72
11/19/72
12/31/72

December 1972 would be a cool month to have a show from at last, and the NYE show is legendary. Or...we could have 3 Box Sets next year - 1969, 1972, and 89/90. Call it "End of the World with the Grateful Dead " Episodes I, II, and III. This would generate the urgency required to market 3 box sets in a calendar year.

Cousins, I agree with you, those 81 Greek shows were my favorite of all the Greek shows. Your right, Garcia's voice at the 85 Frost shows was rough, but the Dead played great at those shows. The 82 Frost shows were fantastic. Between the Greek , Frost and the Warfield it was a great time to be seeing the Grateful Dead in the Bay Area.

So in addition to the 'standard' percentage of 80's in Dave's Picks, if they wanted to test the waters they could start with a mini Greek, the two show Frost or the three show Anchorage. Produce, market and let it rip.. then see how it did. Lather, rinse and either let it flow down the drain if sales were poor or repeat.

But a pragmatic mind might start there and see how it goes. At $8 to $10 disc, it would be worth the risk. Even if they are considering this, and one must think it has come up.. I still think they will continue as is for the next couple of years.

I also enjoy the 82 Frosts and agree with Cousins. I have to give the 81 Greek another listen. Agree on the 85 Greeks as well. The 87 Greeks were good but the tapes are not. The 88 Greeks are under-rated in my opinion. And then there is Anchorage. I need to look at the 89 shows again, and some of these might be multi-track, not sure.

If it's gonna happen these shows are a good place to test things out. I think we are going to get a multi-track release next. The documentation on these is not as tight as one would think.. for example, are there complete lists of the multi-tracks in the vault? If so I have not seen it.

.. I am going to smoke and think a while on this. Time will tell.

Some excellent shows; start with Boulder, end with Alaska and slip in Portland and Seattle in between. No idea if these are in the vault or cassette masters.

Last 5:

Misfits: Static Age
Misfits: Walk Among Us
Fleetwoods: Mr Blue
LaVern Baker: 1st Atlantic LP
Megadeth: Rust In Peace

I've heard Boulder but not Portland nor Seattle. Still, it's been a decade since I listened to Boulder. I'm gonna toss these in the pick of the day thread as soon as the queue clears up.

One of my all-time sleeper Dave's Picks is #8 because it simply kicks ass, oh and that recording.... I consider it a rarity.

If any good recordings of Greek or Frost shows exist, they would have released them by now.

I like what we get, but don't expect G or F releases.

..but some of these both are releasable and will get released one day.

I also think (perhaps it's a hope) that they are finally turning the corner on restoration/clean-up/improving the sound of some of these cassette master releases.

Time will tell.

34 years ago today, I was at the Oakland Auditorium for a benefit concert called Blues for Salvador which featured, Garcia, Weir, Santana, Tower of Power, Terry Hagerty, Boz Scaggs, Bonnie Raitt, Wayne Shorter. Garcia and Weir pretty much played with everybody. There will be a box set from the Frost , Greek , and Ventura one day . Great 49 ers game, Garcia was a huge 49 ers fan. I also heard the One More Saturday night before the commercial break, very cool.

both 49ers/Packers and Bengals/Titans games

Close games are fun to watch when it isnt your team in the mix

I had a friend in middle school who liked the Bengals. For him, I hope the Bengals win the SB.

long road to get there

5 7 72
2 2 69
4 22 79

It was deleted just as the pick was shipping out.

just harder to get to. Go to Community, then Products, then Dead Store Products, then scroll down until you see it. Not in any particular order either it would seem. Same thing happened to DaP40. Just got my 41 this AM. Great sound!
Cheers.

Top right corner of your screen, there's an down arrow/caret. Hover over that and click on recent posts.

That's what I always do. Hope this helps... :-)

This isn't a lead in to selling something. Just curious. I was going through a box of stuff that I had forgotten about and found a small cutting from a film reel. I think it's from the Grateful Dead movie. As I recall, it was a "bonus extra" that came with one of the official CD releases. I'm assuming it came with the Grateful Dead movie 5 cd release, but I honestly can't remember. I've searched "the Google" but can't find it mentioned anywhere. Does anyone remember getting that, and does anyone know what release it came with? Many thanks!

I've always just bookmarked the product page when it first appears.

You are correct.. an extra from The Grateful Dead Movie Box Set. I believe they are cut up pieces of film from the actual film copies they send to movie theaters around the world that were returned after use. I think.. I am running on memory.

Hmmm, does anyone have any other contact info on getting replacement discs other than the DamageReport email address. Is there a way to get a hold of Dr Rhino directly? I contacted the email address about a week ago and was told to send pictures so I did the best I could and I haven't heard back. I'm getting a little nervous considering that this looks like it's close to selling out.

It's not uncommon for them to take more than a week to get back to you. If it would ease your mind, send a PM to MaryE.

You're hunch is right, as Jim confirmed. It came with the GD Movie + 5 CD release as a bonus extra. One of the coolest and unusual things of that nature I can think of - I mean who thought of that? My clip was 4(?) frames tight focus on Jerry's hands jamming on Wolf. Took a bit of time to figure out what sequence it came from. In the end I concluded it was from the Eyes of the World jam, which is in that realm of about as cool as it gets. Back then I thought of getting prints made for a "quad-tych".

The film clip I have is six frames, and two half frames at each end. I think the frames are of the crowd at the Haight show. Not sure. Some of the stuff I found in that old box is just strange. For example a paper napkin with "Keystone" printed on it. I mean, huh?

Thank to the folks who helped me identify the film.

My last GF (now my wife) threw away all my swag including my film clips and ticket stubs in my last move. Some call it a junk drawer, mine was quite orgainized, more like a treasure trove.. but alas its all gone. One man's treasure is another man's trash (or did I get that reversed). She also threw away all my frigging pictures because some contained ex-girlfriends. Ticket stubs, gone. It still hurts....

I guess it doesn't matter anyway.

That's tough especially if it was organized, but to forgive is .... how does that go? I just threw it all in a box and forgot about it. Now I'm trying how to figure out what went with what. I guess it doesn't matter. The music is what's important. The stuff is just more stuff.