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    Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

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    So cool to hear those Alpine Memories!

    Two back at ya.

    6/26/87 - 1st Night - Set 2 - China Cat Midi weirdness. The weather was getting ominous, my first show at Alpine, was totally ripped, and I start hearing horns and weird shit, I’m trying to see the stage, thinking is there a guest performer or something, more midi weirdness in Eyes > Drums, I didn’t know what Midi was or how they were doing that, it was eating my mind, by the time they got to the ripping All Along The Watchtower (broke out 6/20/87 that year, so it was new) the weather had gotten pretty dicey, that Watchtower sounded truly Wicked in it’s delivery and tone. The boys laid it on us that night. I bought the ticket and took the ride. It’s a night I’ve always remembered. We slowly strolled out of the show went and found our tent, partied, crashed, woke up and did it again the next day in the sun!

    1988 - 2 shows, break, 2 more shows - Yeah it was hot and dry as dirt that summer as reported. I loved the break day.. we were kids, so not having water didn’t seem to effect us, we were probably drinking soda.. who knows. But we hopped in my buddy’s convertible on the day off, drove around until we spotted a pool in someones back yard, and we all ran and hopped in it to cool off and get a dip, then ran back to the car dripping wet, dived in and sped off. It felt so good, we were so hot and dirty and it was dry as a bone. Sorry folks, but we needed your pool and you weren’t in it.

    At the time I never thought those would be the days, but those were the days!

    THE TAPES:
    Sadly the Alpine tapes seem to have issues.
    1987 - No SBDs in Circulation still! Been waiting for 33 years, and even if we had them, which we don’t, they probably sound like ass, like so many ’87 shows. Healy was experimenting with UltraMatrix that year and lots of ambient noise got baked into most of those tapes.

    1988 - Healy strikes again! Dan was doing some type of panning of the sound through the speakers, I can’t remember where I read / heard, think it was GD Hour, maybe Lemieux. Anyhow, it creates a type of “warble” sound in the recording, I’ve got those SBDs and they’re a bit hard to listen to due to the consistent “warble” through out. All 4 nights have it, I think the last night has it least.

    Another Flash - 6/20/88 - The sun setting as they played Terrapin. I still remember that as a favorite moment, was way back on the hill on the lawn lots a space, just taking it in, looking at the moon. I’d just seen a new Brent Song (Turned out to be first Blow Away unbeknown to us at the time / pre-internet / phones / technology) and that had rocked me, we were big Brent Fans.

    1989 - Well those are some good tapes!!

    But that’s another tale, and I wasn’t at those shows..

    Memories:)

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    Got out of bed way too early for some reason, but had a chance to put on today's pick and listen to most of set 1 without interruption. Really strong 1st set! I love the placement of "Black Peter" and all of the regular tunes are played very well. Just finished with that beautiful "Bird Song" before the wife came down and life started again, so I am going to have to save "Playin'", "Bertha" and the short Set II for later on today, but that 1st set was a great way to start the day!

    For no good reason at all, this is another pick that doesn't get as much play from me, but after this morning's initial listen, I think that is going to change!

    Peace

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    Mark me down with it

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    >>>>>The real kick in the ass is, she also threw away all my pictures, every single one... simply because some contained pics of me that included ex girlfriends.

    That's a shame, a damn shame. The was just before she died in that tragic kayak accident, right? The river was running hard and fast and you begged her not to go out that day. It was only by the grace of GOD did you survive. I read the report about how you kept diving into the cold water time and time again to look for her, but, alas she was gone. But that's one secret you can never tell.

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    @ Good old Grateful Dead: I had to think about this one, that was a long time ago, and it was my first dead show. What I do remember about the show was the crowd, what a cool bunch of people, and the twirlers, my first time seeing them and they were everywhere, in the back, in the halls, in the bathrooms, everywhere there was a space, they were twirling. I'm pretty sure we all dosed that night, we did that a lot in the 70's. I have Dick's picks 29 which has this show and the Atlanta show if I'm not mistaken and the band was in tune and doing the "just exactly perfect" thing but I don't remember one tune they played that night. I also remember the tye dye, it was also everywhere and the stage had a huge tye dye mural in the background, most of the speaker covers were tye dyed too, as were a lot of the crowd.
    I had heard a few dead songs before going to this show and was interested, but not a deadhead yet and believe it or not, this show did not transform me into one, not that night anyway, it was the April 80 show that did that. I remember getting close enough to get a good look at Donna on stage, she was ok but I had seen bands with chick singers and she just did not impress me. I prefered Grace who in my opinion had a much better voice and was just lovely to look at. With that said I do believe that it was Donna that left me uninspired and the main reason I did not get on the bus that night. I think a lot has to happen for one to get "it" and this performance just didn't have it and the civic center, even tho it was newish, having opened in the 70's, it was still a cavern with not the best acoustics. But three years later, I jumped on the bus big time and turned a lot of younger heads later on to this band, still my favorite band after 40 + years.

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    Fox Th. 1980 matrix?

    Did Bolo24 just say were are getting another Fox Th. 1980 matrix? woohoo!

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    "What’s your Favorite Year seeing shows?"

    I would have to go with '89. Saw shows spring summer and fall and they were all great shows.

    Civic Arena Pittsburgh both nights. released
    Closing JFK Philadelphia. released audio and video
    Spectrum Philadelphia all three nights. will be released one day

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    Alpine 87-88. Those were some unbelievable times.
    Like Jim, I do not remember all the shows song by song like some others do, but, for some reason the first night of the 87 Alpine run, I can still remember the Feel Like a Stranger opener and my buddies and I running down the hill to try and find a spot. I always remember the Tons of Steel from that night as well. What a time! 87 for us was different from our first experience at Alpine in 86. Of course it was two weeks or so after that Jerry slipped into the comma. At the time, I didn't think we would get to see the band again. What a run after that!
    GOGD, do you remember the drought in 88 at Alpine? It was crazy. We had campers in those days 87-89. I just remember 88 was so hot and we always had tons of people coming to our camper looking for water. In those days, we had tons of beer, but not much water.
    Some of my best memories of all those years at Alpine was after the shows in the parking lot talking to other heads about all aspects of the shows, the band, Jerry, what the encore will be the next night, etc. Similar to what we do here. Man, seems like so long ago, but I think about those days a lot and no band has ever come close to that feeling of seeing the Dead live. There are a huge group of people here that were at those shows at Alpine, this one is for you guys and gals!
    At some point in time, we will see some of these late 80s Alpine shows released.

    My wife has asked me as I am watching the Shakedown Stream shows, we will see you in the crowd on some of these?
    My response, only if they play Downhill from Here.

    Stay well.

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    4/19/82, Baltimore Civic Center. Don't need no stinking ticket stub to remember that. Electric.

    Buckeye Lake.... fun indeed.

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    ....that was fun indeed. Tom Thumbs. Righteous.

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Must be some Bobbie vocal dyslexia lol

6/29/76 Another fine one
8/6/82 Nice clear sound. Definitely need to dig deeper into 82 this year, and 92, I’m sure I’ll hit enough 72 without extra attention…82 was kinda a lost year as I was old enough to get around more, but roadieing all the time.

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That was a great show. She joined Jerry (or vice versa?) for a tune or 2. They traded guitar licks for a bit until Bonnie did the "I'm not worthy" bow to Jerry. I remember they touched foreheads - sweet moment. I'll be seeing her perform in a couple months.

I also met her around that time backstage at the Oakland Coliseum. She was with Jane Fonda, who was dressed head to toe in black leather (wow!). Jane was a bit stand-offish, Bonnie was quite friendly. While we were talking, Bear came over and tried to sell us some jewelry. I'm familiar with his enamel stealie pendants, but I'm pretty sure he was peddling one made of sapphires and rubies for $5000 - unless I imagined that. Wish I had the dough back then!

EDIT: Oops...meant to post this on the 41 page

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3/24/93: once again I’ve been nicely surprised by a 93 show!
Thanks (again) to Vguy for another great pick.
Way back when I had pretty much written 93 off “worst year I went to” and other short sighted nonsense.
But in the past year or so I’ve probably heard a half dozen shows and enjoyed them all. So I’ll have to poke around.

But first, since no new pick, I’m going to catch up with 12/30/78 since I’ve never read this one?
Stay warm folks, minus 9 here this morning!

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Anybody win yet Bolo?

What is on tap for today?

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I was caught up once.. not long ago. Working my way through the last couple picks. Plus.. I fit in the second show from DaP 18 which makes it 7/16 and 7/17/76. An interesting twofer.

I hear you Oro.. it's full on winter here too. Fortunately, we do winters here.. how does that phrase go? (and loving it).

I noticed I have not converted the shows I am behind on into my digital world yet. Just got back from a morning and afternoon skiing, no school here today. I'm friggin' freezing, gonna warm up in the tub which means I am grabbing something I already have in my digital cannon. I'm in the mood for 74, we will see what comes out when I rattle my device. Happy trails all.. How about a DVikes pick for tonight into tomorrow?

Oh, as for the contest.. the only shows that come to mind are far too obvious, they don't follow the bolo patterns. I'm going to have to ponder this later today.

Edit: I just got some random buy some wine email. This was the first item on the list: Ausone 2005 1.5L 6 pack owc ~ 1 @ $31,362 WA100, WS100.
So six 1.5 L bottles for just over $31k, just over $5k a bottle. (note: I'm reaching for an IPA).

That’s a lot of wine. And pricey too, at least in my wine world.

One summer Friday night when I was 17 I drank 3 bottles of Boone’s Farm and then 2 cans of beer.
What a stupid teenager……

Pricey is right.. Ausone is a first growth Bordeaux. Still, I bet you me and a third wheel could kill the whole lot in a big weekend. The accompanying weekend long hangover would come at the price tag of an entry level Lexus or Mercedes.

Perhaps in my next life.. I plan to come back as a philanthropic aristocrat that avoids responsibility at all costs. In the mean time the closest I can come is to listen to one of the PNW shows with Money Money and pop the cork of any number of bottles that us mere mortals can afford.

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I like where this is going Jim. How about 5/17/74?

How you all are well out East. Tough storm.

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We were too far inland to be affected by the storm.. the folks that live on the coast and up through Boston got clobbered. We've been getting hit almost daily by lake effect show here.. two to four inches most days but today looks to be sunny. Great skiing, both downhill and cross country. I've been fortunate to be working half days the last week or so and getting out for the other half to take advantage of it. Today it looks like I will be hanging out with 5/17/74. That China Rider is sublime.. the Portland one is also excellent. Wow wow stuff, love 1974 GD. Thanks DVikes.

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Negatory on the contest guesses. Not much interest, only 4 or 5 responses. Maybe I'll just start mailing stuff to random folks on here.

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It is a tough one Bolo. I only have one guess left so I will send it your way soon, unless you want to give us another clue?

Still waiting on my #41, scheduled for Friday. It seems like a long time since #40 came out.

You all have yours?

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All I can think of are Bananas in fishnet stockings and I know that's not it. Hence, my zero guesses. Now I'm just trying to clear my thoughts of sultry bananas.

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but didn't want to swing and miss on my guesses. I am truly stumped. The obvious is Jamacia, but it can't be that easy... no way.

Not sure if any of you heard of the anarchist cookbook or not.. it might be illegal now, but years ago you could get it. There was a section on things you can make at home when the weed runs out. Morning Glory seeds, woodrose, etc.
One of their suggestions said if you dry the flakey white substance off a banana peel and smoke it, it will get you high. Just cutting my teeth early on in high school, I tried it. It did not work. 30+ years later I read this was a complete hoax that someone made up just to fill some pages. That's my bananas story. A little embarrassing, but on the bright side I only tried it once and immediately realized it was dud. There was supposedly the recipe for making acid there too, but you had to start with lysergic acid and it did not mention how you get to this point. The book was a bit wacky, not recommended.

I bet that has nothing to do with the clue at hand, but who knows.. maybe it does.

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i looked at the clue and it was "wow - no idea". Did sort of seem like a Ken Nordine word jazz concept as seen at the Rosemont Horizon as suggested by someone on the DaP41 thread

just now put together a rather out there logic thread pointing to another (seemingly) plausible answer (at least in my alleged mind)

as for ketchup, I'm just not cutting the mustard nowadays. Did get a listen to Oro's 1st 1/20/79 and really liked what I heard. After Bolo's mention of 10/6 I reached for another fall '77 - DaP 25 Broome County. That Fall tour really has grown on me last several years (looking at you DeKalb). And then pushed the time machine ahead a few months to DaP 15 Nashville - been awhile and it was awesome. Then 12/3/79 this weekend during my drive time - yeah it was my second show and I really really like it. among the many reasons the Jack-a roe is my favorite electric version outside of those first few Spring '77. and speaking of those early versions #2759 reached Red Rock country yesterday and spinning Disc 1. Really happy to start a new DaP season!

Onward!

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Hey, rockers!!!

Pick of the day: St Louis February 2, 1970

Back in the distant past of taping, a small soundboard chunk of this circulated, and was cherished. I believe the Cumberland and most of the big jam, including the very fine Dark Star. It brings back fond and funny memories……….

In my big taping daze, around 1980-1981, a young deadhead I knew in an adjacent town (Lincoln, Massachusetts) hosted a high school radio program where he played lots of live Dead on Sunday mornings. He invited me on and this Star was one of the things I brought with me. In the middle of it, one of his friends—who had just woken up and tuned in----called in and said, “What the hell is THAT?!!!”. LOL, mind blown, that’s how fine that Dark Star is.

A very interesting example of the Dead’s continual early evolution. It appears that this was a “rediscovered/returned tapes” deal that led to its official release in May 2013, nicely coupled with the Fillmore shows of December 20 and 21, 1969. This is another underrated and underappreciated official release. Dust it off and revisit it…………

Sweet!!!

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True love is like ghosts, which everyone talks about and few have seen…..

Right there with you Doc. I got the Dark Star > Stephen > Mason's/ segment summer of '82 (pretty darn early in my trading days.) A killer primal Dark Star that had me from the get-go. And the fact that the tape cut off in the middle of a ripping Mason's (my first of course) just added to the mystique. DaP 6 was one of those Holy Grail shows (can there be more than one Grail?) to have released in its entirety all cleaned up and fresh. Didn't seem possible. And the material from 12/20 and 12/21/69 is excellent also. One of my favorite releases from the series and always surprising to me it isn't on more top DaP lists.

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So after an enjoyable romp yesterday with 5/17/74, (this box is still a bit of a stranger?), I hit 5/25/77 for the first time.
Full disclosure, I didn’t sit down and give 5/25 the “full treatment”, so I probably missed “it”?
Another fine GD show, especially if you dig white bread, but personally I enjoyed the 74 much more, even with all its flaws. Notice I didn’t say I didn’t like 77, just I really liked the 74 more! Feel I have to qualify or face the shitwinds.
For whatever reason, if I think about 77 at all, 2/26 is what pops in my head? Something about that one?

But I wanted to hit 5/25, it needed to be hit, and thought it appropriate before I roll DaP 41 today (received yesterday).
And since I’m being all “meh”, add 2/2/70, though I never met a Dark Star I didn’t like ; )
Cool Masons, and a LL that didn’t go on too long, and hey, it’s got a Cumberland! Lol.
Another good, but not mind blowing release, imho. 70 is a weird year for me. Has some amazing jams etc, but then there’s the “other” stuff I.e., the opening Casey Jones just as one example. But hey that’s just me, don’t let my tastes spoil yer buzz! Lol it’s just a extremely transitional period, for good or for Ill, between the 68 into early 69 primal psychedelic majesty that we all? seem to love (hey that’s one thing most of us agree on lol) until they come out the other side a relatively full on lean mean 71 bar band R&R machine!
Like most of the bigger transitions, there were a shit ton of new, classic songs, spun differently, and the whole historical perspective etc, and that’s interesting and all, but with limited time and so much Dead, 70 isn’t a big go to for moi. But again, no reason to get excited, he kindly spoke, just my two centavos. Party on Garth!

Bluecrow, always a pleasure! Thanks for the Jazz info, I know OF these things, but I don’t KNOW them YET!
Glad you liked my baptism, weird little show. Bet it would of been good to be electric, except the ride home from pops would of been a whole lot weirder than it already was LOL.
Always thought parts of that one and 1/10/79 would make a good Dave’s, but don’t think they have the right tapes : (

Glad Jim’s enjoying winter, hope all you Nor’ Easterners are ok and doing the same and making the best of it?
Stay warm, be safe, roll Dead!
Ok, few preparations and then ONWARD, to 5/26/77!

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70s

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70’s fishnet stockings?

I’m confused…..

Or as Roger Waters sang,
Got to admit
I’m a little bit confused

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Great pick.

Where do I start? Casey Jones opener, which makes a statement. Love the early Mama Tried's. There's an honesty that permeates these early versions of this song. Then it gets real with Hard to Handle and Cold Rain and Snow. Great crunchy versions where Jerry's tone and efforts lead the way. Another honesty moment with a clairvoyant Black Peter and a youthful Jerry belting out some hurt. It's got a Cumberland.

I listened to this uninterrupted with headphones nursing my wounds.. with the exception of some low-level hiss that you really cannot escape with these old analogue tapes the sound is really spectacular, what a great venue for acoustics, but the real deal is in the Dark Star>St. Stephen>Masons Children. Wowwy.

I have listened to this many times over the last 8 years, but it never grabbed me. I knew it was just me so kept quiet. Tonight it shined. Thanks Doc

Oh.. finished 5/17/74 today too. Another show that just picks up steam with each additional listen. The first set was typical early 74. I'm a sucker for the Race is On. The Jack Straw Dire Wolf was nice and an interesting Row Jimmy PIT to close off the first set, but the magic really started happening at China Cat in the Second Set. Currently my favorite China Rider, it's that good.. and the Truckin' through China Doll to close the show is simply classic. Another stunning recording, so two back to back great picks that poked through the fog and spoke to me. (helps to more or less have the day off to partake).

Thanks all.. I feel sorry for the next to toss out a pick. How could you one-up these last two?

Bananas I say. Bananas.

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Yes, still enjoy this show and of course it has a Money Money. Bob seems to stumble a bit in Truckin, but hey not too surprising.

Ugh, Covid has hit our household.

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And I really don't have enough to say about that China Rider, words do not do it justice. Shut your eyes, crank it up and float freely about the universe.

Sorry to hear dvikes. Everyone my house got it except me, I somehow escaped. So I fed and cleaned for a couple weeks. Fortunately, symptoms were very mild. Everyone's getting this gdamed thing.

Been busy.. tonight I will focus on our new clues.

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in my quest to download all DSO, found an exceptional Eyes. It's been 20 minutes of bliss.

if interested, 2005-06-06

enjoy

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Let us know if you figure it out Jim. I am stumped and out of guesses.

Glad you all made it through Jim, we are hoping for the best over here.

Still waiting for #41.

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Sending good vibes and best wishes to our friends in MN. In our house, this variant was soft on pain and quick on recovery.. Hoping this is true in your case.

One way or another.. this darkness got to give. If you all have it.. I suspect the person feeling the strongest has to cook/clean and fend off the ill intended neighbors and meddling cops. Guessing that is you. Keep the faith man.. . Again, wishing the best for you and your family and sending good vibes and happy healing your way. Perhaps pick a show without a Black Peter and you should be fine. Might I suggest a godly Eyes of the World. You are not alone.

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Thanks Jim, appreciate it!

We have to make it through. No choice.

Anyone have a good pick for today with a long Eyes?

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Been playing it in the car this week. Long Playing in the Band as I drove in this morning in the Cold Rain and Snow.
Believe that there was an Eyes before Playing, but that was driving home yesterday and I have already forgot.

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For the adults in your house, kill the virus with beer. Can’t be any less effective than horse dewormer can it? Certainly more fun.

Sounds good to me. Another fine performance in Madison WI, and of course part of Dick's #18. Which is also where we started with Bolo's first pick.

Thanks all.

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Rollin!
First time for this one too!
Not snowing today, but definitely cold: - 13 yesterday, -11 today, brrrrrrr
One of only 4 Dickus Pickus I don’t have yet. Real Gone has been spitting em out fairly quick, but still a few short. All good things in all good time…

Oh, and 41 still too new, so I’ll just say that if your a 77 Freak your gonna really like it!

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Today is to deconstruct Dicks Picks 18 Road Trips 1.2 and reconstruct into complete shows with the best possible recordings in the correct order.

I'm so glad for the most part they are releasing complete shows.

In a way I look at Lemieux in a similar way as a long time parter. I don't always like what he does, but we have been working on him for years to give us what want and not to do stupid shit.. complete shows, no jarring filler, cool it a bit with the audience mics and crowd noise into releases, etc. we have so much time and effort investing into breaking him in.. it would be a shame to have to break in a newbie and start all over.

No chop jobs please Dave and how about a primal release or two?

2/3/78, I'm all in and this time the complete show not the composite release of yesteryear.

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In addition to de-wormer, I hear drinking your own pee works now, too. Of course, NOT the dedicated vaccine.

Have times ever been more bizarre?

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I finally got John Deere green lawnmowers as one of the reCRAPTCHA tractor images.
I kid you not. I screen shotted it and am going to email it to you.

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Love it.

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Just got reCRAPTCHA tractors on the DaP41 page and 2 of the 3 images were green John Deere farm tractors.

Jim,
I think its a sign that you need to upgrade the time machine to a more powerful model.
There may be a major job looming and only the upgrade will get the job done. Maybe it’s so you can carry passengers that will be needed to get the job done.
I suspect that the job has something to do with the Vault.

What's it a sign of if you get bicycles? ;-)

Ok then, what's it a sign of if you get signs? :-)

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Everywhere a sign…
But what would be the answer, to the answer man?

Yep, diggin 41

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How did Bolo get my pin?

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It doesn't appear that anyone is going to guess this one, so:

Fishnets Banana

Bananafish Garden, a 70s concert venue, used to be known as the 46th Street Rock Palace in Brooklyn, the borough the NBA's Nets call home. The Dead played 4 shows there - 11/11-14/1970.

Now back to our regularly scheduled program...

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I wouldn't have ever figured that out. Nice one, Bolo. It was fun to play along.

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Okay, you stumped us Bolo, definitely a tough one. I was way off.

You gets the booby prize?

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We might have guessed it. I can only speak for myself, but this one made me not think, which I guess is the purpose of a good puzzle or riddle. If it was easy, it wouldn't be fun and the reward would seem cheap.

Thanks Bolo, don't give up us.

Time for another pick over here?

Looking at 4/2/89 from the Igloo in Pittsburgh. Included on Download Series #9.

I believe Oroborous could provide some insight on this show.