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    You can listen to Grateful Dead records over and over again and never understand the attraction they have for certain people until you attend one of their concerts. Sometime during the Dead's usual five-hour set, it will all click: Jerry Garcia's Indian bead string of notes on the guitar, the ozone ooze of the vocal harmonies, the shifting, shuffling rhythm of bassist Phil Lesh and drummer Bill Kreutzmann, and the distant echo of the oldest of American folk music. - Columbia Flier

    "Certain people" will know that we're coming in hot with one that's got all these things and more, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 41: BALTIMORE CIVIC CENTER, BALTIMORE, MARYLAND, 5/26/77. Yes, there's still plenty of spectacular May '77 to go around. Nearly chosen for Dave's Picks Vol. 1, 5/26/77 delivers three-fold. There's one count for the energy - all the precision of the Spring tour conjuring up the raw power of the Fall tour that was to come. There's another for the setlist which featured beloved songs from WORKINGMAN'S DEAD and soon-to-be favorites from the freshly recorded TERRAPIN STATION. And a third for its element of surprise (or shall we say surprises) from an astonishingly peak 15-minute "Sugaree" to new delights ("Sunrise," "Passenger," "Jack-A-Roe') to a rare first-set finale of "Bertha" to the second set's "Terrapin>Estimated>Eyes," traveling leaps and bounds towards the improvisational journey that is a nearly 17-minute "Not Fade Away." 

    Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 41: BALTIMORE CIVIC CENTER, BALTIMORE, MARYLAND, 5/26/77 was recorded by Betty Cantor-Jackson and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. Grab a copy while you can.

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  • #781
    PT Barnum
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    moving fast

    so much, DMCVT enjoy those meds, had stones 20 years ago, passed most of them, quite painful but after being able to relieve oneself again without pain or dribbles is great. Hated it when they said no more meds, love those Percocet.
    Billy 82' was a great year, saw a show in Nov. of that year, First Passenger for me.
    All this box talk has really got me thinking about an early box Primal Dead, awesome choices, but I would love some 1970 Dead too, those Spring shows at the universities, the summer Festival Express shows have been touched on but there were some great shows with that train trip that need furthur exploration. The fall of 70 also great shows there too, lots to choose from and we have really only gotten Jan. 70 with Dave's if I remember right (which is highly suspect nowadays)
    Also those European tours from 81 and 90, both have some fine music and we haven't seen anything from those tours and the 90 tour has Bruce so could scratch a couple itches at once. There are a lot of eras that we haven't heard and I think variety is the spice of life, although just about any Dead is good dead to me.
    Learned to type in 72 and back then, 2 spaces after a period to start a new sentence, now, only one so it is hard for an old dog to learn new tricks but will try. lol
    Keep those last 5's coming. Here's mine:
    Box of Frogs - 1st
    Bloodrock - Bloodrock
    Trapeze - Medusa
    Pat Travers - Radioactive
    Greg Lake - 1st
    Todd Rundgren - Todd
    that's six, but it's been a while I know it's early, but I've got spring fever...

  • #782
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    Re: HF/PNW68 Tapes

    This was discussed during the Road Trips Vol. 2 No. 2 announcement. I might check the liner notes, but I don't think that's where it popped up because most of this in on the Bonus Disc.

    Someone out there help me clear up my failing memory, but what I recall is Dave saying someone found a box of tapes at either one of the theatres or perhaps (more likely) a studio somewhere. Like they were left behind after mixing Anthem of the Sun. I believe they recorded the whole tour on multi-track, 8 Track to be precise. I'm flying on memory which should scare us all.. I also think this wasn't too far removed from the Houseboat Tapes which was released late in 2005, so returned reels were still a thing.

    So I hold out hope that somewhere, more of these gems exist or perhaps instead of pulling one or two songs they could piece together a complete show or three.

    My four cents.. please someone out there either confirm or deny my memory of this.

    Peace. Stay warm, stay safe. Speaking of peace, FU Count Vlad!

  • #783
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    I've lost the faith a bit

    I'm struggling with the Dead at the moment. Post '74 has never really been my thing, the 1977 Winterland box is OK and I really liked those actual Winterland boxes, they're a nice size, but I really can't settle and listen to any GD at the moment. I first heard Europe'72 in 1974 and have been a big fan since then but now I don't know. Maybe It'll come back. My St Louis box is not far from the Missouri river in Columbia MO at the moment, at my sister's house, that's how I get round the import taxes here in England. Haven't gone to pick it up yet, maybe she'll bring it over next time she visits. Fox Theatre 1972 was always a big favourite of mine.

    Last 5

    Molasses-A Slow Messe
    Dylan-disc 2 More Blood More Tracks deluxe box
    The Who-Tommy
    John Eliot Gardiner-Bach Cantata Pilgrimage Vol 10
    Mogwai-Come On Die Young

    The 5 records I reckon I've played the most times over the last 50 years

    Love-Forever Changes (the winner by a mile)
    Talk Talk-Spirit of Eden
    Dylan-Blood on the tracks
    Spirit-Spirit of '76
    Traffic-John Barleycorn Must Die

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    Somebody said we "shouldn't threaten Dave..."

    Why the hell not?? He's out there, rolling around on logs and mossy rocks and looking for eagles. Why not cuff him a bit around the ears and order him back to the Vault to dig out the '68 tapes? He's Canadian, he won't fight back (oh, wait...).

    Okay, 6 brief communiques and I swear I'll stop (!):

    Mr. Ones: "ultimate souvenir," awesome phrase, could be lascivious or a band name.

    JimInMD: how long ago did Dave mention PNW '68 tapes?? Are "one-offs" simply one reel of several for a show? (The OSF just revealed the number of reels used in their various outputs and it surprised me. The average is 11 reels per release, but vary from 2 reels to 32 reels or something like that. I'd guess the faster the tape (71/2, 15 ips) the better the sound...)

    DMCVT: glad you're healing! Good John Hammond story. I've got a pretty good one for another time. I interviewed him for a Jimi-dedicated magazine.

    Icecreamed: Yes, the solution is TWO boxes per year, one small, one large-ish. Rule: small box MUST contain Pigpen material...

    Proudfoot: I sure hope "Public Castration is a Good Idea" is the title of a CD, not your new mantra.

    DaveRock: I needed something meditative and new to play around with. When the pandemic started, I taught myself to fingerpick on the back porch. Lately, getting better acquainted with the fretboard and slide in standard tuning is a challenge. I put the Gretsch through a Tube Screamer for tone and a Fender Hot Rod Deluxe and use a short, fat glass slide (Ernie Ball). I'm just doing 12-bar blues in open position, then doing some Elmore-type licks higher up, staying within the rhythm using a metronome. Takes some work, but the payoff is there. What I love about learning guitar (I picked it up ~17 years ago in my late 40s) is that whatever you put in, you get like 5x back. Great ROI! Plus it feeds the soul. Have a crappy day? Pick up the guitar and feel better.)

    Maybe Vguy could try crushing the stovepipe can into his head. Or at least do a doctored video of such an act.....

  • #785
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    Good combination

    HF - that's a great combination...to have seen the band so many times and in 1973, one of their peak years. Also, maybe, being young at the time. Bands I saw when I was, say 15-18 had a massive impact on me - that's from 1972-1975. Although I got into The Dead in 1976, it was through records only, and I didn't know anyone else who liked them. Bit of private interest in a way.

    Mr Ones - I too would get anything from 1967-1970...make that 1974. I would get any of the 5 shows I actually saw from 1981-1990...and maybe other shows from those European tours, too. Apart from that....I might get some more 1976 onwards shows...but not before checking out what it was, and what people said about it in Deadheads Compendium etc.

    Incidentally-HF- that's a good idea, playing slide in standard on your Gretsch. I knackered my left hand overplaying mine last week - its has a slightly higher action than normal for me - ouch! - so rather than let it gather dust I should try what you do.

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    Swans feel good now
    Swans public castration is a good idea
    Motorhead inferno
    Husker Du zen arcade
    Husker Du new day rising

    Raw sounds for raw times

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    Stone ipa stovepipes

    I love these 19.2oz stovepipe cans of west coast ipa from stone brewing. I'd like to see Belushi crush one of these bad boys on his skull.

  • #788
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    My 3¢

    Started as 2¢ but inflation……

    I listen to all years, and think that the 1-Box-per-year model isn’t enough. A 2-3 show Box and a 5-10 show Box every year, along with the Dave’s subscription would be just exactly perfect. And some video too, please.

    All years sell out eventually, Dave/Rhino seem to be doing pretty good on the production numbers for a given era.
    I think that Giants Stadium sold out faster than PNW. 76 was a hit and St. Louis will sell out eventually.
    We are due some 67–69 at this point.

    A Bruce Box is absolutely needed in the near future, and the 2-Box-per-year model will make it possible to keep everyone happy.

    And more video Dave/Rhino!

  • #789
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    Thanks for kind words and my apologies if sharing TMI last night. Pushing 70, am not conversant with hospital grade pain meds, never was (they took very good care of me) and I did have a driver. My vision of a 60s box is much like HF wrote below, six or nine discs of 60s material, we already know there are partial sets, or short sets that could be a stitched together. Would love to see some photos of those early venues as well. Playing a little catch up here, there's a great look at some Gram Parsons back story on a website easily found mrporterdotcom, which includes his bromance with Keith Richards, Stones music, great photos.

    Love to know more about the refinement of the processing Jeffrey Norman uses to bring us such great recordings, just barely aware that it started out as a way to correct inherent distortions of analog recording. Surely it has progressed far past that, there's a story there.

    recent music:
    Charlie Haden's Montreal Tapes with Geri Allen led me to:
    Three Pianos for Jimi: Geri Allen and the Batson Brothers (not your typical Hendrix tribute)
    Allman Brothers Band, Live from A&R Studios
    Bruce Katz Band Live at The Firefly
    Bruce is a truly gifted musician and teacher, there's a bunch of his great music out there.
    so, boring story: went to the 2016 North Atlantic Blues festival in Rockland Maine to meet an old friend who knows Bruce. Bruce was there to play with John Hammond Jr. We hung out with Bruce and his wife first night, got to know this great keyboard guy, born in Baltimore within a few weeks of my own birthday in D.C. Quickly discovered our first Dead show was the same, March 1973, Baltimore Civic Center. During that evening, before ever hearing Bruce play, he asks, where are you guys staying? Oh yeah, that's where John and his wife are staying... next morning we head to the little breakfast area and there is John Hammond Jr. and his wife. We do not bother them of course, but later, my friend drops the news that we were hanging with Bruce, looking forward to their performance that afternoon. John invites us over to chat and tells us a few stories over the end of breakfast. John met Jimi in NYC in 1966, before almost anyone knew about the immense potential about to supernova. John is a very fine bluesman, began to listen to him around 1970.
    We meet up with Bruce after the music is over and continue to hang. Bruce learns I live in Vermont, says I will be there in September with Les Brers in Rutland would you want to come? I am at the afternoon sound check, we meet for dinner before the show. Bruce tells me he is very concerned about drummer Butch Trucks, lots of stuff going on, way too much stress. One of the last Les Brers shows, Butch left the world a few months later. Derek's uncle. Guess all I am saying, this community right here, these connections, means a lot to many of us, life is precious, taking care of and with each other, it matters, no matter how small, pay kindness ahead. This is the spirit I felt at every Dead show, it was there in the seventies. And when i went to Dear Jerry a few years back at MPP I saw and felt it again. I still get shivers when I hear Jorma start that version of Sugaree, he was singing to his ole buddy.

  • #790
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    My Primal Box pipe dream is that there were more of those 8 tracks from the PNW Winter of 68 Tour. When Road Trips Vol. 2 No. 2 - 2/14/68 Carousel Ballroom was released, Lemieux indicated they found a box of 8 Tracks that were lost or mislabeled or something from the PNW tour, but most of what was included are one-offs.

    I think it's a long shot, but wouldn't it be grand if they were somehow able to piece together a few full shows from this tour recorded on early 8 track tapes?

    Primal Dave.. or we will be forced to taunt you a second time.

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You can listen to Grateful Dead records over and over again and never understand the attraction they have for certain people until you attend one of their concerts. Sometime during the Dead's usual five-hour set, it will all click: Jerry Garcia's Indian bead string of notes on the guitar, the ozone ooze of the vocal harmonies, the shifting, shuffling rhythm of bassist Phil Lesh and drummer Bill Kreutzmann, and the distant echo of the oldest of American folk music. - Columbia Flier

"Certain people" will know that we're coming in hot with one that's got all these things and more, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 41: BALTIMORE CIVIC CENTER, BALTIMORE, MARYLAND, 5/26/77. Yes, there's still plenty of spectacular May '77 to go around. Nearly chosen for Dave's Picks Vol. 1, 5/26/77 delivers three-fold. There's one count for the energy - all the precision of the Spring tour conjuring up the raw power of the Fall tour that was to come. There's another for the setlist which featured beloved songs from WORKINGMAN'S DEAD and soon-to-be favorites from the freshly recorded TERRAPIN STATION. And a third for its element of surprise (or shall we say surprises) from an astonishingly peak 15-minute "Sugaree" to new delights ("Sunrise," "Passenger," "Jack-A-Roe') to a rare first-set finale of "Bertha" to the second set's "Terrapin>Estimated>Eyes," traveling leaps and bounds towards the improvisational journey that is a nearly 17-minute "Not Fade Away." 

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 41: BALTIMORE CIVIC CENTER, BALTIMORE, MARYLAND, 5/26/77 was recorded by Betty Cantor-Jackson and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. Grab a copy while you can.

USPS received my DaP41 from UPS on Saturday, but only delivered it today.

Sounds just as expected. Thanks Betty, Norman, Dave & Co.
I never had this on cassette and have listened to the torrent copy I have less than 5 times, so it’s basically a new show to me.
Yeah, the filler is jarring being at the end of CD 2. But glad we got it.
Since I only listen to the CD’s once to confirm that they aren’t defective and then copy to a HD, process, and transfer to a micro SDXC card for use in a music player, this show will flow smoothly and 7-19-90 will now have it’s encore.

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Submitted by JimInMD on Wed, 02/02/2022 - 18:07

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It's largely irrelevant here in the US. Unless your car breaks down in Cleveland Ohio.. why bother. Full disclosure.. Cleveland is great city and is just few hours drive from me.. so considering the proximity I go to the Hall of Fame all the time (not). Never been, never will. (R&R Hall of Fame that is, Cleveland is cool).

I think that's about the answer one would expect. With the small exception of seeing a piddly list of newbies each year.. we don't give a shit and neither did Jerry.

Now what were we listening to again?

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Wed, 02/02/2022 - 18:58

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.....although my son is enjoying Duran Duran. Rio.
I only have two ears and one auditory output at a time.
He thanked me for mixing it up a little. John Taylor lays some serious bass lines according to my minion.
I squirred. It happens.

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Submitted by proudfoot on Wed, 02/02/2022 - 22:02

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Hmm

Xtc?
Hazzee fantayzee?
Lena lovich?
M?

Bow wow wow? Remember the hot chick in the video singing i want candy and licking the melty ice cream cone?

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I sure do

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Wed, 02/02/2022 - 22:23

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....soon, it will be 2.22.22.
Neat.
Ultravox. INXS. Oingo Boingo. Simple Minds.
Goodnight peeps....

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Submitted by daverock on Thu, 02/03/2022 - 02:32

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According to Memphis musician Jim Dickinson, " The best songs don't get recorded ; the best recordings don't get released ; and the best releases don't get played".

I always felt a bit too scruffy for new wave. Although I did like the way Hayzee Fantasee used to dance about on the telly-and Lene Lovich once appeared on stage with Hawkwind, for Gods sake.

Mr Ones - thanks very much - I hope you realise that I have the greatest respect for you, and your views - and that if I disagee with anything you happen to say, that respect isn't diminished in the slightest.

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Submitted by dmcvt on Thu, 02/03/2022 - 05:47

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Oingo Boingo new wave? Yep, 40 plus years ago... discovered because of a truly bizarre and profane movie, The Forbidden Zone. Have their first vinyl EP, with the cat on the cover. High energy rock ska, the brilliant Danny Elfman. Weird Science a pop hit. Never expected to see mention here, thanks!

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Submitted by steelcityhead on Thu, 02/03/2022 - 08:16

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Hello all first time posting. Hope everybody is well out there. Received my copy of 41. However discs 1 and 3 have heavy static halfway through both cds. Can anybody help me out. Emailed customer service haven’t heard back. Long time collector first issue I’ve had. Thanks all stay well!!!🤘🏻

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Submitted by marye on Thu, 02/03/2022 - 09:16

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send me a PM with the details and I will ask the Doc to get on the case.
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Submitted by estimated-eyes on Thu, 02/03/2022 - 09:32

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I have no affinity for the induction portion of the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, I really gave up on it when they started inducting folks like Madonna and such. If you are going to induct them, just call it a music hall of fame and be done with it.

That said, any folks on these pages would enjoy a visit to the museum immensely. I am a 20+ year museum professional who likes going to museums and I can say my visit to the R&R HOF Museum in 2009 was one of my finest museum experiences. The exhibits are extremely well done and the artifacts displayed are incredible. Lots of goosebump stuff that chronicle the history of blues and rock and roll. A handful of Jerry's guitars are in a public space to see without having to pay, but I remember seeing Pigpen's harp and beat up hat (there may have been a jacket, too) among other GD stuff. Full on outfits worn by Mick Jagger and others on tour, instruments from pretty much every notable player, and some really fantastic stuff. I recall the piece of the tail from the airplane that went down in Lake Monona with Otis Redding. That kind of stuff! It is a big museum and well worth a visit and the money to get in.

OK, off soapbox. Onto filler. I was being melodramatic about not listening to the second cd of this set because of it. Really, I just can't get the third CD out of the player, it is that good. I can listen to a stand alone S&D, High Time, etc... or that magnificent jam on CD 3. No contest. Best filler I had in my tape days was on the end of 12/31/78 set III tape-- someone put the 1967 clip with strange stage banter and one of the few Golden Road to Unlimited Devotion followed by New Potato Caboose. It was revelatory to hear primal Dead like that. I am forever thankful to the fellow who put that on there.

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Submitted by jbxpro on Thu, 02/03/2022 - 10:21

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Got DaP41 today, finally. Just be patient if you haven't gotten yours yet. But a question: does anyone know what's going on about the hair-dos on the turtles on the cover?? I was around in 1977 and this wasn't the style, especially on turtles.

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Submitted by Dark-Star on Thu, 02/03/2022 - 10:41

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You would think they could at least have thrown in the missing US Blues from the previous Dave's Picks 40. The extra disc they threw in that release for no particular reason just barely missed making 2 complete shows ;-)

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Submitted by daverock on Thu, 02/03/2022 - 10:52

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Estimated - that does sound good. I used to like going to exhibitions on rock memorabilia when I went to London up to two years ago. Great ones on Elvis, David Bowie and The Stones. The Pink Floyd one was a bit sketchy. I can remember standing behind a group of people looking at a telecaster covered in silver mirrors placed in a glass case. When I got up close, I read the card underneath it, which said it was an exact copy of the one Syd Barrett used to play. Great. Anybody could have done that on cheap tele !

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Thu, 02/03/2022 - 11:09

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....huge fan since 1985. Their final show on Halloween 1995 is one of the most high energy shows I've seen (on yoo toob. I wasnt there sadly).
Fingers crossed for a reunion at some point, but doubtful. Not because of I'll feelings amongst the band, but Elfman has stated that his hearing is too far gone to consider it. Bummer.
Him and Bartek have gotten together a few times since, but only for a song or two.
Back to Baltimore '77. That Jack-A-Roe, Minglewood, Bertha is a definite 1-2-3 punch. Very nice.

Just halfway through the first set, it sounds more or less exactly as I remembered it. Beautiful recording, high energy show. ..and the vocals are quite good by GD standards. There's one thing I never quite got used to and that was the tone of the Travis Beam. Still, he manages to rock with it, and it has a very clean sound.

A very good show, certainly a worthy Dave's Picks. Can't wait for the second set.

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Submitted by Cousins Of The… on Thu, 02/03/2022 - 14:02

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It is just me, or did they mix Tom Constanten's harpsichord way down? This is(was) my all time favorite rendition, in no small part due to the fact that Tom was up front and very audible.
I did a quick compare with the Archive soundboard, the difference is there...what happened? tried it on two systems, same result; anybody else noticed?
Can't comment on the rest of the set, I just went straight to that side.

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Submitted by nappyrags on Thu, 02/03/2022 - 14:55

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...Did someone say Lene Lovich? I saw her and other Stiff Records acts at The Whiskey in West Hollywood...Stiff's motto was "If It Ain't Stiff, It Ain't Worth a F***k"... and of course at the same time were the Two Tone bands out of England...The Specials, Madness and The Selecter...wow!

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Submitted by J3FF on Thu, 02/03/2022 - 14:59

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DAVE- Why the 3+ minutes of crowd "Not Fade Away" chanting at the start of "U.S. Blues"?? First of all it simply makes no sense to include that as part of the bonus for "U.S. Blues"... it would make sense at the end of "Not Fade Away." Second... that's going to be a pain to have to fast forward to on all future listens.

Even for crowd noise/ band banter that is actually part of the concert it would be nice to make it a separate "song" on the CD--or code it as negative time before the song starts-- so we can skip it on future listens.

THANKS!

I rarely play "CD's" anymore...I rip my purchases to my HD and drop them into my digital walkman or connect the player via aux cord to my car stereo so this bonus track was not an issue...I simply dragged the track out of it's folder and relabeled it "18" and dropped it into the corresponding folder for 40....the crowd chants match up pretty well like that....that being said it should have been available as a one time download with proof of purchase of 40...

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Submitted by Exile On Main St. on Thu, 02/03/2022 - 17:16

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Dave is doing a great job to supply us with complete shows. Not Fade Away is the missing encore from Deer Creek on the last Dave's Picks. Aside from it completing the show, it's almost impossible to get a crowd to sing for 3 minutes (no small feat). I heard of them doing that once before when they closed out a show and had the whole place chanting over and over 'Hey now, Hey now, lko lko all day, Jock-a-mo pee-no ah na-ney, Jock-a-mo pee na-ney"

I am not impressed with this show.

Hey Vguy,
That Halloween 1995 show was released on VHS first, then as a 2 DVD package. Plays well on home systems given it's not HD spec. One of the best live shows far and wide. Have OB vinyl and CD, but that video captures the essence, should have run that one up the flag pole when music videos were under discussion a little while back. Same for the vids from Branford Marsalis Live in Amsterdam: A Love Supreme, or his last, late period Miles Live in Munich. One thing to hear the music (do "get" that repeated videos do not sustain like pure earfood, it's a different part of the brain), one must see musicians live or as close to it as possible, when at peak. Completed two full passes on 41 and can only agree, disc three is outstanding. This performance virtually free of warts as far as I can tell and polished, great audio and power under the hood, add another star to the constellation that is 1977. Will reiterate, not that I didn't want it, US Blues is just out of place. YMMV.

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Submitted by proudfoot on Thu, 02/03/2022 - 18:48

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old wave

Still freaking awesome in 2022

Black Angel's Death Song

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Submitted by JimInMD on Thu, 02/03/2022 - 20:05

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If it's a problem (US Blues), the go through the trouble.. work the metadata and place it where it belongs. If you are a physical media person than burn a new copy sans USBlues and toss it in the 6 disc changer instead of the original. It takes about 20 min tops. Keep the original so you don't scratch or damage it and all is good with the world.

I might not have put the Dave's Picks 40 leftover on this particular release, but these are first world problems to be sure. It's not that hard to grab it, relabel, etc. and put it where it belongs or not.

As for liking this release, 77 is not on my radar for a host of reasons, but every now and then it really does scratch the itch. '77 for me is the practically perfect GD band otherwise known as my supermodel ex-girlfriend. We don't date anymore but when we reconnect, I am rarely disappointed. I like my GD warts and all and value risk over stability, but that's just me. I doubt if I listen to this day in and day out but this is top shelf GD. I would put it very much on par with Dave's Picks 1.. the main difference being Scarlet>Fire vs. Estimated>Eyes but both shows are solid and rock from start to finish, no warts.. practically perfect in every way. But that's just my brain wrapping itself around this problem, interpretations vary. What you think and how you process it is 100% correct, no wrong answers.

Worthy GD. A monumental release. Now can we get some warty 1968 for goodness sakes? Trip or Freak GD Please.... Less on the worthy, more on the worth it. :D

edit: in a pinch, 69 or 70 would suffice.

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Submitted by Crow Told Me on Thu, 02/03/2022 - 21:41

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Claude Bessy, aka Kickboy Face (lead singer of Catholic Discipline and editor of LA punk zine Slash in the '70s) pretty much said it all about 'new wave':

"There was never any such thing as New Wave. It was the polite thing to say when you are trying to explain you were not into the boring old rock-n-roll, but, you didn't dare to say punk because you were afraid to get kicked out of the fucking party and they wouldn't give you coke anymore."

I remember those parties, sort of. Last five:

Wayne Shorter: The All Seeing Eye
GOGD: DaP 34 bonus disc
Ty Segall: Harmonizer
Neil Young: On the Beach
GOGD: DaP 41

I could while away the hours, conversin' with the flowers, consulting with the raiiiiiin

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Submitted by nappyrags on Fri, 02/04/2022 - 06:40

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Forgive me my piping in late on this previous topic of discussion but I've been having PC issues and I really don't like typing on my phone with my paws...first of all we lost two great Bluesmen last week...Jimmy Johnson was a great singer and guitarist, Born 1928...if you can get a chance, listen to his Storyville album "Tobacco Road"...great live club recordings from Chicago '77....the other Bluesman lost was the Great Drummer Sam Lay, born 1935...he recorded with everyone in Chicago...he was also the drummer for the first Paul Butterfield Blues Band LP recorded in 1965...Sail On Sirs...Sail on...Mas blues talk later....

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Submitted by billy the kiddd on Fri, 02/04/2022 - 07:24

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2/4/70 was filmed by P.B.S. for a special called " San Francisco Rock, A Night at the Family .Dog". It was shown on television on 12/13/70 and included the Dead, Santana, and the Jefferson Airplane. only 3 songs were shown by the Dead, Hard to Handle and China Cat/ I know you Rider. This show was released on DVD a few years ago. I imagine that they filmed the whole show by the Dead and not just 3 songs, it would be great if this show could be released in its entirety, if it still exists. Nappy, to bad about Sam Lay, that first Butterfield Blues Band was one of the greatest bands of alltime, Not a whole lot of those older guys left. Charlie Musslewhite is still going strong, he put out a CD with Elvin Bishop a couple of years ago that's really good.

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Submitted by hendrixfreak on Fri, 02/04/2022 - 07:36

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R & R Hall of Fame: in my (hugely expert) point of view, the people being inducted surely make the whole concept a farce. BUT on a cross-country jaunt maybe 18 years ago, driving a vehicle from Annapolis to Denver, my path crossed with the museum. A few highlights: a moldy valise with a noticeable bump in the upper lid, said to belong to Howlin' Wolf. He kept his gig cash in it and the bump was caused by a large-caliber handgun placed atop the cash. Mr. Wolf would place the valise under his chair on stage, the safest place for it, as the GD themselves would learn. That sez blues to me. Jimmy Reed's red Les Paul; just OMG! Then there was an exhibit of stage costumes previously worn by the Rolling Stones. Carefully curated, the outfits were displayed on the typical headless dummies. (GREAT band name....) The thing that struck me is that, from what I could tell, the Stones must all be around four and a half feet tall. YES! Rarely discussed fact. Those guys are basically midgets. Hang on, nothing pejorative here about midgets, but more the defrocking of rock 'n roll legends -- those boys could have acted in the Lord of the Rings with no costumes or makeup. Little-known fact: Bob Weir is also under 5 feet tall; he just looks big under the spotlights....

Okay, the artwork on DPs does not really matter to me. But in light of the amazing artwork done for the PNW box, I really favor strong, simple graphics for CD cases due to size and proportion. The intricate cartooning -- especially skeletons -- is cliched and silly. Not to harsh anyone's pleasure if you enjoy it, but prehistoric indigenous imagery from various locations on the American homeland is possible and, to me, desirable. Blah blah!

Lastly, the actual music on #41... killer, so far. I agree we're saturated with spring '77 and this was clearly an easy pick for the first release of the year so they could spend more time on whatever special projects they're cooking up. And followed by a '74 show with bonus disc is keeping me as a subscriber. I've only listened to disc one so far and based on sound quality and performance alone, I totally dug it. Would my choice be different, if given a guest spot making a Pick? Sure. But remember, Dave & Co. have to view these releases as installments in a long river of releases that eventually will go vastly different places. I almost fear what Dave has in mind when he mentions "variety." Either that's the month/year of upcoming releases (including the '22 box) or the format (video or vinyl of Euro '72 shows coming?).

So, um, yeah, I'm most interested in a late '67, anything from '68 mini-box. I don't see Rhino greenlighting a full-on '68 box but a four-disc thing-y? Take my money! (And my brain. It's on a month-long February discount...)

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Submitted by proudfoot on Fri, 02/04/2022 - 07:57

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it's still rock and roll to me

Popped into my head

Catholic Discipline quote is priceless. Coke was never appealing to me. "New Coke" new wave coke

"'New wave' doesnt mean shit" he goes on to say

Last 5 mon GD
VU and Nico
Metallica And justice for all (WHEREZ THE FUCKING BASS)
Motorhead bomber
Melvins the Maggot
Yes Relayer

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Submitted by J3FF on Fri, 02/04/2022 - 12:15

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Is there not any organization by topic here? I thought I was commenting on the latest Dave's Picks but it appears this is just a general word-salad-bar with non sequitur dressing...

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Submitted by simonrob on Fri, 02/04/2022 - 12:54

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This is where you comment on the latest Dave's Pick but it is also where you post anything that comes into your head. No organization, but you don't have to search the whole site for interesting stuff because its all here in one place.

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Submitted by JimInMD on Fri, 02/04/2022 - 13:01

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Comment away.. my last post was mostly regarding DaP 41. It's a stunner, classic GD.

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Submitted by nappyrags on Fri, 02/04/2022 - 13:52

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Not only do our purchases contain mis-placed bonus tracks, so do our conversations...

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Submitted by wilfredtjones on Fri, 02/04/2022 - 13:54

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Search the website for topic specific discussion. Likely there is a topic for what you want to discuss. But, you may or may not get a reply. Or, perhaps not a reply for months or years. That's part of the fun and some of what keeps me here. :-)

Dave's 41 still shrink wrapped, waiting for its full reveal

I like putting GD stuff on here as well as random stuff on here. I make show recommendations fairly regularly.

Scroll past if you don't find it relatable. I also need a place to vent my inner lunacy, so y'all are the lucky recipients.

Just don't talk politics or say things like "DT sux donkeys"

Keep in mind that the occasional random word salad comment can spark a detailed conversation

"because of the formlessness" - Jerry Garcia

it's also very Acid Test-y

lol

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Submitted by daverock on Fri, 02/04/2022 - 14:43

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Maybe just as improvisation lies at the heart of The Dead's music, it also lies at the heart of discussion on the Dead's music too. That's my excuse for slipping off topic anyway.

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Submitted by snafu on Fri, 02/04/2022 - 14:45

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This is where 90 min cd-r’s with over burn come in. Granted not red book but if I’m working around the house I’m not hearing perfection so let it rip

It’s how we entertain ourselves and each other.
And we just keep moving to the comment page of the most current release or announcement.

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Submitted by Shindigger on Fri, 02/04/2022 - 17:01

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They usually arrive by now. Is it delayed? (Like everything else.) And why is the Dave's Picks page so empty? I see just two sold out sets of cards.

Hover over 'Special Edition Shops' in the store, there's more Dave's stuff there. Alas, you may have missed out on the glass if that's what you were going for. Yes, DaP 41's are now shipping and arriving...

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Submitted by hendrixfreak on Fri, 02/04/2022 - 18:38

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not letting the pork chops touch the mashed potatoes. Trust me, J3ff, that one threw me, too. But it's been years.

Not to be defensive, but at least 2% of my last post had to do with the current release. So there!

That's my story and I'm unable to get unstuck from it.............

Pork Chops touching the Mashed Potatoes...

There is no greater controversy or travesty in the modern world. Archduke Franz Ferdinand was a famous mixer of mash and chops.. and we know what happened after that. good grief. Can't we keep it clean? Politics, religion, race relations, anything but pork touching taters on the plate.

Getting ready to delve into the second set of 5/26/77. The place, but not the time of my first dead show. I'm totally psyched.

This whole tater pork chops comment reminds me of merlot on that movie sideways. "If anyone orders merlot, I'm leaving. I am not drinking any flucking merlot"

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Submitted by nappyrags on Fri, 02/04/2022 - 19:58

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VGUY72, I would say Fela is more rock 'n roll than most of the folks in the hall...no Fela, no Talkng Heads "Remain In Light"...Fela was constantly threatened by the Military Junta that ruled Nigeria during the 70's...He was arrested many times, most famously when he was arrested and had a joint planted on him...he ate the joint and his jailers kept taking his stool to test so he could be charged with possession...what they didn't know was that other prisoners were passing along their stool to be tested...he was cut loose and recorded his LP "Expensive Shit"....Ginger Baker went to Africa to play with him after Blind Faith broke up...When McCartney went to Lagos to record "Band On The Run" he said one of his fondest memories of that trip was to go to a small sweaty club and see Fela play...He was a bad man...

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Fri, 02/04/2022 - 19:59

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....I tell jokes sometimes. Example. My dog has no nose. Wait. Not that one.
Where do bad rainbows 🌈 go?
Prism! But it's a light sentence.
BTW. J3FF. You didn't comment on the release either. Potato, potato. And chops. And applesauce.
I remember when this group shared recipes too.
That was the pre-no-linq daze though.
Thanks for the Kuli lesson Mr. Rags btw.

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