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    You can listen to Grateful Dead records over and over again and never understand the attraction they have for certain people until you attend one of their concerts. Sometime during the Dead's usual five-hour set, it will all click: Jerry Garcia's Indian bead string of notes on the guitar, the ozone ooze of the vocal harmonies, the shifting, shuffling rhythm of bassist Phil Lesh and drummer Bill Kreutzmann, and the distant echo of the oldest of American folk music. - Columbia Flier

    "Certain people" will know that we're coming in hot with one that's got all these things and more, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 41: BALTIMORE CIVIC CENTER, BALTIMORE, MARYLAND, 5/26/77. Yes, there's still plenty of spectacular May '77 to go around. Nearly chosen for Dave's Picks Vol. 1, 5/26/77 delivers three-fold. There's one count for the energy - all the precision of the Spring tour conjuring up the raw power of the Fall tour that was to come. There's another for the setlist which featured beloved songs from WORKINGMAN'S DEAD and soon-to-be favorites from the freshly recorded TERRAPIN STATION. And a third for its element of surprise (or shall we say surprises) from an astonishingly peak 15-minute "Sugaree" to new delights ("Sunrise," "Passenger," "Jack-A-Roe') to a rare first-set finale of "Bertha" to the second set's "Terrapin>Estimated>Eyes," traveling leaps and bounds towards the improvisational journey that is a nearly 17-minute "Not Fade Away." 

    Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 41: BALTIMORE CIVIC CENTER, BALTIMORE, MARYLAND, 5/26/77 was recorded by Betty Cantor-Jackson and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. Grab a copy while you can.

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  • #1301
    JimInMD
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    Trading Cards?

    Holy crap.. it's true. I'd call that on overreach, but who am I to judge.

    Similar to the CD's, so long as you don't expose the Dave's Picks trading cards 1 through to oxygen, they should be ok.

    And Space.. love ya bro, but passion for old dead (as well and 'newer' dead) is not nostalgia, it's kick ass music as is the giants box and many of the later era stuff you mention. I like it.

    Or, in the words of Adrian Belew:
    The more I look at it
    The more I like it
    I do think it's good
    The fact is...
    No matter how closely I study it
    No matter how I take it apart
    No matter how I'll break it down
    It remains consistent

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    Looking at the variety of Dicks Picks versus Road Trips versus Dave's Picks, I would say Dave is just hitting his stride with these choices over the last couple of years especially with his namesake series.

    The first 20 picks only saw two Brent era shows which weren't enough. He's just now making up for it with the 4 disc 87 and 90 sets, and every note and beat of those shows rock.

    I understand the nostalgia for pre-retirement Dead and I'm a big fan of that era too. Last year's box hit that 71 - 73 spot with 7 exceptional shows.

    The Giants Stadium 87, 89 and 91 box is epic. The 87 show, first night of 89 and second night of 91 I would seem as essential. A full Alpine 89 box would even surpass that.

    Spring 89 had some more epic shows. Ann Arbor, Rosemont, Mecca, Minneapolis....that would make a fantastic box right there.

    Of course The Ark from the early days would be great. Great shows from Red Rocks, The Frost, Cal Expo, Autzen Stadium, Richfield 91, Boston 91.....I could list hundreds of top notch shows from multiple recording sources throughout the decade starting with Brents 1st show through 92 or 93.

    How about 9/26/91? That would make a lovely Dave's Pick.

    I could make a lengthy wish list of shows. I've done quote a few of those over the years here.

    For me, now that Dave's truly hitting the variety, my appreciation for all era's has just grown. I could probably even appreciate a Wave To The Wind now. I Fought The Law maybe not quite so much, depending on the rest of a given show.

    Just reminding myself of that epic Birdsong from Vegas 91 with Carlos Santana sitting in. You want an epic Birdsong that's one of the best that needs to be released. Same with those 87 shows Santana sat in.

    Don't make me type out a massive wish list....m

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    There's a 41 glass??....

    ....purchased.
    I have a habit I didn't even knew I had.

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    Pass the time with some John Coltrane

    If you are looking for some great jazz to listen to while waiting for Dave's 41 the recent release of John Coltrane's, A Love Supreme, Live in Seattle is outstanding. Very highly recommended...!

    One last comment about the cover of Dave's 41. The yellow geometric shapes at the top of the album cover are actually on the roof of the Baltimore Civic Center

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    I'm pleased for more 1977 Dead. The way the world is today, 1977 looks really goddamn good and I loved the entire decade and growing up in it. Nostalgia doesn't even come close to how I feel about a time that will, alas, never be again. Kind of miss the skeletons on the cover though. I have skulls all over the house which my family occasionally take issue with. I found something recently that said skulls are a symbol of eternal rebirth, new beginnings and all that... truth is, beside the fact that we are all skeletons covered in meat and skin, I just think they look cool.

    Last five:

    Beatles - Abbey Road
    Dead & Co. - Moon Palace, Cancun, Mexico 1/19/20
    Warren Zevon - Excitable Boy
    Mr. Big - Lean Into It
    Charlie Hunter - Everybody Has A Plan Until They Get Punched In The Mouth

    \m/

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    80’s recordings

    There are some good ones.
    3-9-81 is an example, and it’s on the list that is supposedly the list that Dave first made of potential releases.

    I certainly would like summer 84 and 85 to be polished up and released. There’s some good stuff there.

    Downloads are the way to go for the 80’s shows that have not just exactly perfect sound quality but are certainly worthy of release because it’s about the band first and foremost.
    This assumes that Rhino can actually some day figure out how to put together a fully functioning download site. I haven’t been affected by it but if you read the comments on the download pages you are pretty quickly convinced that it’s an amateur operation.

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    Colin, Dilbert’s Picks

    Dave needs to hire an apprentice named Dilbert to take over when Dave retires.

    DP = Dick’s Picks
    DaP = Dave’s Picks
    DiP = Dilbert’s Picks

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    good points, deadvikes...

    And my biases and tendency to generalize are showing. Yes, they've put out some great sounding cassettes, like the Houseboat Tapes, and others that I have thoroughly enjoyed (didn't DiP have a few '80s shows?), and yes I'm conflating cassettes with DATs when talking '80s. I have zero knowledge of what shows are on what media. But I hear myself cooling to '80s s on cassette or whatever media they used, as it's said to be sub-par. Hasn't Dave himself commented on this factor? Seems like it was discussed relative to finding shows for 30 Trips. And some of those didn't hold up to critical listening.

    As to my biases, I confess I left the scene in '87 after three nights at the Rocks and two daytime shows in Telluride in one week (time for a break, eh?), as I detected Jer's decline or experienced it as air going out of the balloon. I went back for two shows in '92 mostly for nostalgia and enjoyed them. Interestingly, my fever for the band's recordings never flagged. So if they pick a hot '80s show for DP, I'll probably dig it but pass on a whole box. UNLESS... ha ha! .... they make it '80-'81, which is very hot.

    I have an aud of 12-26-81 in Oakland that I believe marye attended and though the setlist appears tepid, they smoke it. Just a rollicking show.

    Okay, I'm babbling now. I guess I could dig the occasional '80s show but not a box. There, 10 words but I went on for miles. Paz, gentlemen.

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    I see the cd sold out before the glass! Is that a first?

    Dave Rock
    I don’t think I did compare DL and JG I simply posited the time frame. If they did bring in a replacement who could it be, is there a Doug or Dana in the team as we appear to need someone with a 4 letter name, beginning with D.

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    out of all the spring 77 shows that I have

    I do not have this one. Thanks Dave for releasing a show I have not heard. Where are the 1970 shows indeed.

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You can listen to Grateful Dead records over and over again and never understand the attraction they have for certain people until you attend one of their concerts. Sometime during the Dead's usual five-hour set, it will all click: Jerry Garcia's Indian bead string of notes on the guitar, the ozone ooze of the vocal harmonies, the shifting, shuffling rhythm of bassist Phil Lesh and drummer Bill Kreutzmann, and the distant echo of the oldest of American folk music. - Columbia Flier

"Certain people" will know that we're coming in hot with one that's got all these things and more, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 41: BALTIMORE CIVIC CENTER, BALTIMORE, MARYLAND, 5/26/77. Yes, there's still plenty of spectacular May '77 to go around. Nearly chosen for Dave's Picks Vol. 1, 5/26/77 delivers three-fold. There's one count for the energy - all the precision of the Spring tour conjuring up the raw power of the Fall tour that was to come. There's another for the setlist which featured beloved songs from WORKINGMAN'S DEAD and soon-to-be favorites from the freshly recorded TERRAPIN STATION. And a third for its element of surprise (or shall we say surprises) from an astonishingly peak 15-minute "Sugaree" to new delights ("Sunrise," "Passenger," "Jack-A-Roe') to a rare first-set finale of "Bertha" to the second set's "Terrapin>Estimated>Eyes," traveling leaps and bounds towards the improvisational journey that is a nearly 17-minute "Not Fade Away." 

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 41: BALTIMORE CIVIC CENTER, BALTIMORE, MARYLAND, 5/26/77 was recorded by Betty Cantor-Jackson and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. Grab a copy while you can.

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Submitted by J3FF on Fri, 02/04/2022 - 23:02

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My prior post was about DP41. And my follow-up comment you saw was because I keep holding out hope that Dave or someone else at the company will read one of my product comments... but when comments about the product get buried in an avalanche of unrelated discussion, it seems even more unlikely that anyone at Dead-dot-net would ever hear product feedback.

Not saying you guys aren't entertaining... I enjoyed your responses and certainly don't want to rain on any parades... just that I would ALSO like a way to get product feedback back to the folks I send lots of my money to.

Annnnd... I just found the customer service email... so I guess I'll give that a shot for customer feedback and come back here after I've had a chance to think carefully about my position on pork chops.
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Submitted by simonrob on Sat, 02/05/2022 - 05:56

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It is widely assumed that the powers that be do see what gets posted on here, but there is no definite proof of this as far as I know. Certainly they never communicate with us via these boards. As for customer service, I think that is outsourced. Contact with customer service is via a contact form that can be found under "help/customer service" at the very bottom of the page. You can also find "feedback" at the bottom of the page. By clicking on that you can send feedback about anything you choose. Maybe that is what you were looking for. Certainly it has to be worth a try.

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Submitted by LedDed on Sat, 02/05/2022 - 07:09

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This is as good as the Dead ever played. 1977 may be their zenith as live performers... by 1978 I hear a certain element of fatigue and overindulgence creeping in. From somewhere between late 1971 to 1973 and 1977, it was the best it would ever be. Disc 3 here is so good, I've earmarked it for newbies and people who dismiss the band as sloppy.

Been listening to a ton of Little Feat lately. Awesome, underrated band especially when Lowell George was still with them.

Happy weekend everyone!

\m/

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Submitted by proudfoot on Sat, 02/05/2022 - 07:40

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Monitors at least. Dave might read this stuff. But in the long run, I don't any of the ptb have any fux to give about our salad de wourde.

Outside I hear a massive cacophony of crows (this is a fact)

Crows told me. About 80 of them flew overhead when I was out with the dog: "Time to pop the shrinkwrap on 41, bitch!"

:)))

Recall that Norman responded once to admit that he did in fact jack up the bass on 8-25-72.

And several years ago Marye relayed us a message indicating that (at the time) Rhino/WMG weren’t really interested in processing the video Vault for commercial release.

It was during one of those times that we were discussing the release of video, much like a week or two ago, and as we frequently do, to keep getting the message out that we want more video.
We got a taste with the Giants Box, and some teasers for Shakedown Stream.

I think that streaming or download is the way to go for the 90’s shows that are a recording of the video feed during the show (which includes the computer generated graphics mixed in).
For physical product we still need complete, or as close as possible, audio/video Boxes of:
Winterland October 74
Fall 80
Alpine 89
Tinley Park 90
And everything with Pigpen

I have that Family Dog DVD, it’s grate. If video of the whole shows exists get it out there.
And everything from Europe like Rockpalast and 72.

LedDed,
I like the Little Feat show from Rockpalast.

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Submitted by carlo13 on Sat, 02/05/2022 - 10:12

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Sounds great so far. Tonight I will listen to 2nd set. As far as the HOF, what a joke. Ted nugent said recently, "MC5 is nominated, but triumph is not?" Very true. Triumph was a great band. Rik emmet played a flying V guitar for christ sakes.

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Submitted by Oroborous on Sat, 02/05/2022 - 10:49

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Saw them at Klienhans Music hall, where the philharmonic plays (very small) on 7/7/79.
(Dead played there with the philharmonic On 3/17/70. I saw my first Bobbie show there on election night 1980)

Since Triumph were perhaps more used to playing hockey rinks etc, they had pyrotechnics which they blew off opening song, and thus instantly completely filled the tiny smoke free venue with a cloud of smoke so thick we were having a hard time breathing up in the balcony LOL. Almost had to stop the show right there!
It was like something out of Spinal Tap: clueless rock band almost stops show first song at historic Music hall
God I love Rock and Roll!

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Submitted by daverock on Sat, 02/05/2022 - 11:12

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Now there's a rock n' roll hall of fame type of guy ! I'd never heard of Triumph up until 2 minutes ago. And in 2 minutes time I will have forgotten about them again. Unless of course there is a heated debate on here about their pros and cons.

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Sat, 02/05/2022 - 12:06

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....now there's a band I haven't heard of for a long, long time. Thanks for that. Checking out Allied Forces now.
Got the house to myself for the first time in a long time. I heard my amp goes to 11.
Music is the best. Currently partial to some 79-84 new wave/hair metal/punk, so Triumph fits the bill. Remember Fastway?
Let's get heated. The Early '80's is in my wheelhouse. I'll take stuff I'm knowledgeable about for $500 Alex.
Edit. I miss record stores.

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Sat, 02/05/2022 - 12:23

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....don't mind if I do!
Anyone here remember Saxon? They used to toss their guitars to each other onstage. And Biff Byford has a voice for the ages.
Oh. And so did Jerry.
Apologies to J3FF btw. I didn't scroll back far enough. My bad.

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Submitted by nitecat on Sat, 02/05/2022 - 12:42

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I saw Fela Kuti twice, once at the Berkeley Community Theater in '86, once at the Warfield in 90. Not rock, but very exciting polyrythmic music with nice melodies on guitar. He was quite a character, a real showman in an eccentric way. While the music was happening around him, he would stalk the stage, singing and talking about social issues. I taped both shows, and my friend has been bugging me to digitize them so he can hear them.

I listened to the third CD last night again, and it's a winner! Nice smooth transitions between songs, great guitar work, especially in eyes and the very sweet, if a little short, encore of Uncle John's. I started playing it at 10;30 pm, and my housemate, who was about to go to bed, stayed up for the entire set, entranced.

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Submitted by carlo13 on Sat, 02/05/2022 - 12:55

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Allied forces is your classic american 70s/80s keg party music. Rock on V. Fastway-say what you will- has a video with hot chicks on an assembly line of beauty. Oh to be in my twenties again.

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Sat, 02/05/2022 - 12:59

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....I think Whitesnake has a patent on that. Rock on indeed.
Triumph has some damn good riffs.
Can I change my username to Flying V?
BRB.

....that no one had mentioned the gatefold on the Baltimore release.
Awesome pic. 👌
I'm going into the third disc. Will comment live.
"But he cannot be bought or sold."
"Inspiration. Move me brightly."

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Sat, 02/05/2022 - 13:20

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...."two, four, six. Don't worry about me no."

....GDTRFB with a palate cleanser.
Someone earlier said UJB was cut short. I agree.
Awesome Not Fade. Four 🌟 🌟 🌟 🌟's out of four or so.

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Submitted by FiveBranch on Sat, 02/05/2022 - 15:15

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From not having listened to May '77 in quite a while, I was yet again blown away at how clean the music is. It's like they are saying 'Hey doubters! We too can play like this. When we want'. Jerry in particular. Just firing away with precision first set. And check out how solid those lines are in Terrapin. That bold lead allows the rest of the band to just naturally fall off to decorate the wake behind what he's pulling forward front and center. Those perfectly placed and timed sustains. Love 'em. And the last minute or so of GDTRFB is quite the surprise!

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Submitted by carlo13 on Sat, 02/05/2022 - 16:25

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The sopranos had a quote about Maryland. Tony Sopranos father-in-law said "In the army, russ had a case of the crabs so bad that they called him the governor of maryland.".

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Sat, 02/05/2022 - 21:05

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....takes off sometimes 🚀.
Edit. Just finished watching Disney's Encanto at my son's behest.
7.7/10. Good songs 🎵.

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Submitted by nappyrags on Sat, 02/05/2022 - 22:42

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Just me and my headphones....A CM Board...Second Set Only...whew....

Grateful Dead
War Memorial Auditorium
Buffalo, NY
September 26, 1981

--Set 2--
Playing in the Band ->
Bertha ->
Estimated Prophet ->
Goin' Down the Road (Feeling Bad) ->
Drums ->
Space ->
Not Fade Away ->
Morning Dew ->
Playing in the Band ->
One More Saturday Night
--Encore--
Johnny B. Goode

Beauty eh!
Was fortunate to be at that one.
It shows up a lot via Dave and Sirius etc, and ranks high in surveys…

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Submitted by proudfoot on Sun, 02/06/2022 - 11:12

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Ja, gerne

I had it on cassette for a long time

A little speedy and almost no Phil

Soundboard out there?

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Submitted by Dennis on Sun, 02/06/2022 - 13:18

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I checked my copy, meh. Checked archive,,, the copy with 22,335 downloads had the best sound,,,, maybe not for the whole show. Miller seem to have a good sound second set.

later

Nice work Dennis.

The sign says long-haired hippie people need not apply.
But short-haired upstanding citizens? Welcome aboard.

I’m pulling a Vguy and have sports on (Olympics) with sound muted, and GOGD playing.
Just finished 1-3-70%, now on 6-15-76.

Got 5-26-77 processed and on my music player. Played it today and it sounded spectacular. Lots of Phil coming out of the subwoofer. Precision jamming. Yes, the NFA is mighty fine, as commented on by others previously.

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Sun, 02/06/2022 - 21:24

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....aww shucks and thingies.
I bought an acoustic Yamaha today btw. An entry level one. Also had an electric Ibanez Roadstar II handed down to me by my late father in law restrung. Found his old Peavey amp in the spare room closet to boot. Time to stop thinking about it and actually do it.
Winter Olympics are fun and treasures can be found in random closets.
I used to carve on a snowboard....but not like these pros. It's cool when they land a 720 to the beat of whatever im currently playing on my stare-ee-o. Which happens to be a phish Tweezer.
Step into the freezer.
Edit. 1620 degree jumps. Poetry in motion.

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Submitted by wadeocu on Mon, 02/07/2022 - 06:55

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I had a chance to listen to the whole release in one day yesterday. When the filler came up I was into it. I kind of liked the way the NFA chant faded in giving a nod to the jam highlight of the release - NFA! I like filler. Liked it on my tapes and like it on my discs. Otherwise you can get to ripping and burning to scratch yer itch. And on the subject of NFA - wow - this could be an all time NFA>GDTRFB! Dig Phil channeling Caution upon the return to NFA at about the 15 minute mark! So on the subject of filler I like to quote Uncle Bobo himself: "mua, mua, mua"!!!

My guesses would be:

April '78
April '69
Oct. '89
Summer '85

But, you know what they say: Good things come to those who....Pester, Pester, Pester! :-)

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Submitted by deadegad on Wed, 02/09/2022 - 06:31

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Dear Dave L: A September 1979 3 show run in N.Y.C. @ MSG would be a great mini-boxset. These were Brent's first N.Y.C. shows and at MSG to boot. They were very solid shows: The GD Came, Saw, Conquered!!! As another poster noted Steve Parish' Harley was parked on stage and someone gunned the engine multiple times during the show and it was noticed by the audience and would be audible. Cool. Period.

Pester, pester, pester because this squeaky wheel will get that oil!

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