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    You can listen to Grateful Dead records over and over again and never understand the attraction they have for certain people until you attend one of their concerts. Sometime during the Dead's usual five-hour set, it will all click: Jerry Garcia's Indian bead string of notes on the guitar, the ozone ooze of the vocal harmonies, the shifting, shuffling rhythm of bassist Phil Lesh and drummer Bill Kreutzmann, and the distant echo of the oldest of American folk music. - Columbia Flier

    "Certain people" will know that we're coming in hot with one that's got all these things and more, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 41: BALTIMORE CIVIC CENTER, BALTIMORE, MARYLAND, 5/26/77. Yes, there's still plenty of spectacular May '77 to go around. Nearly chosen for Dave's Picks Vol. 1, 5/26/77 delivers three-fold. There's one count for the energy - all the precision of the Spring tour conjuring up the raw power of the Fall tour that was to come. There's another for the setlist which featured beloved songs from WORKINGMAN'S DEAD and soon-to-be favorites from the freshly recorded TERRAPIN STATION. And a third for its element of surprise (or shall we say surprises) from an astonishingly peak 15-minute "Sugaree" to new delights ("Sunrise," "Passenger," "Jack-A-Roe') to a rare first-set finale of "Bertha" to the second set's "Terrapin>Estimated>Eyes," traveling leaps and bounds towards the improvisational journey that is a nearly 17-minute "Not Fade Away." 

    Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 41: BALTIMORE CIVIC CENTER, BALTIMORE, MARYLAND, 5/26/77 was recorded by Betty Cantor-Jackson and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. Grab a copy while you can.

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  • #1261
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    Who he?

    I was confused by the names of blues authors too. Who was this "McDaniel"? If they meant Bo Diddley, why couldn't they say Bo Diddley. He did. Often. Also curious that Robert Johnson's " Love in Vain" was credited to "Payne" on my old "Let It Bleed" album. It has been credited to Johnson on the most recent ( and definitley last) version of the album I got-the 50th Anniversary cd.

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    Go to Nassau 1980 tapes?

    Any Dave's picks is good news to me so another 77 is welcomed and the sound samples sound great to my ears; but, I do understand the clamoring for more 80s/90s or even 60s. With the quality issue of the 1980s tapes in mind I do wonder What's become of the three night 1980 Nassau run? I think all three were recorded for the King Biscuit Flower Hour Radio. Did The GD, likewise, record them -- or other shows from that time period.

    Perhaps an expanded Go to Nassau with all three nights could be released? They were strong shows as the excerpts on the official Go to Nassau demonstrate. That could scratch 'The more inclusive years' itch. I would buy it despite already having Go to Nassau which I love. If there are other shows of similar sound quality from that period. . .. Spring 1980 Selections Boxset!!! A compromise could be a matrices of boards and tapers copies? Go with what you got to include more years.

    And Dave if you are reading a Fall September 79 New York City @ Madison Square Garden would be a great official release! These were Brent's first N.Y.C. shows and solid were those shows. It's a sell-out mini box waiting to happen.

    I dream of Radio City/Warfield tapes being rediscovered in that Raiders of the Lost Ark Warehouse for complete box sets. Let's manifest these dreams.

    Melkweg 1981anyone w/Grugahalle??

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    I like the new artwork. I think it is a lot different. Stella, if you want to surround yourself in Hendrix, and the slew of 60s icons, along with the dead playing viola lee, I would highly recommend the complete Monterey pop fest 67' on criterion dvd box. It is chock full of beautiful music and hot chicks too. It also contains the full dvd 'jimi plays Monterey' with 49 minutes of hendrix. If you are younger than the rest of us on this site (sorry guys) you may not have seen it. This will put to rest the whole 'trey' fiasco to bed. I love fish, but only the haddock, and tuna variety.

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    I was walkin' through the woods......

    So, like many, I got my first Beatles album in about 1964 and my first Stones album a year later. On the latter, I could see on the credits that "(Jagger/Richards)" meant that Mick and Keith had written the song.

    But what the hell was "(Chester Burnett)" or "(McKinley Morganfield)"??? These "names" seemed so foreign, I didn't understand that these were people's names. (How stately, how dignified: "McKinley Morganfield"!)

    But I decided, based on the blues sound, that I had to find out. So in my teeny bopper years (say, 10-13) I sought out the truth: the basic blues I loved was written by Howlin' Wolf and Muddy Waters. Major discovery. Even while I turned on the Hendrix and (yes, sadly) Grand Funk Railroad, (better) Ten Years After, and Janis, I began my journey to the blues. At first, the R&B and soul on the radio: James Brown, Ray Charles, Aretha Franklin. Then BB King, Albert King, Freddy King, Buddy Guy, Hubert Sumlin, finally Robert Johnson and Lonnie Johnson.

    I feel privileged that I got to see BB several times (his call-and-response with the audience, powerful horns!), Freddy several times and Albert just once (but in Chicago from the lip of the stage).

    Without 400 years of oppression, torture and murder, no blues. No blues, then no jazz, no rock 'n roll. In short, no blues, no nothing. Nothing to move the soul or the feet. And it's global, in the context of world music. Would that we could have gotten there without those 400 years and their crimes against humanity. But that stretch will reverberate on this Earth until humans die out. Which may not be all that long, the way we're going. OMG! Best put some world-weary Lonnie Johnson on and sing along.

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    crow told me and innovation

    My buddy summed it up years ago for me, 2 types of musicians.

    Refiners and definers.

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    blues and blues rock

    The first time I saw a real blues singer/band /guitarist, as opposed to a rock band that played blues songs was B.B. King around 1980. It was, not put to fine a point on it, a revelation. I'd only heard a couple of his 1970's albums by then-"Midnight Believer" was one-and although it was alright - it was only alright. But live it was a different world.

    I saw a few after that - Albert King, Memphis Slim, John Lee Hooker and Buddy Guy come to mind. The most recenet I can remember seeing was The North Mississippi Allstars, about 3-4 years ago. Well worth checking - quite trance inducing.
    Also Catfish Keith. He is an American who came over to England quite regularly in pre-pandemic times, bringing with him his trusty National Resonator. Mainly blues/gospel in the Blind Willie Johnson style. The singing might be a bit ropey - but he's got the guitar style down pat. Nice guy ,too.

    Must have been something to see Big Mama Thornton live.

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    Green Bay game and The Grateful Dead tonight

    going into the commercial a 70's? One More Saturday night....very nice

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    Introduction to the Blues

    The first time I heard Blues music, was in 1969/70 when my brother bought the Chess l.p. Bummer Road by Sonny Boy Williamson. The first time I heard Blues music live was at a Blues festival at U.C. Berkeley in the early 70s, Sonny Terry & Brownie Maghee, Big Mama Thorton, and George Harmonica Smith were all on the bill.

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    Introduction to the blues

    For me it was listening to The Stones - and Keith Richards in particular. In interviews he gave he would name check Muddy Waters and Robert Johnson - and where he went, I was sure to follow. Not always the best policy perhaps - but alright in this context.
    Seeing the film "Performance" turned me on to Ry Cooder and slide guitar. That's probably the best soundtrack to any film I have ever heard.
    And then seeing Rory Gallagher live - he was wild.

    Just going off the records, I didnt really pick up too much on The Dead's blues roots. My favourite interpretation of theirs that I heard - hands down - was "Death Don't Have No Mercy" on "Live Dead". Incredible.

    Also in 1974, I saw an English band called Dr Feelgood, featuring the extraordinary Wilko Johnson. No lengthy guitar solos here - they played r'n'b fast and punchy, with the emphasis on rhythm, not virtuosity.

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    Hendrix is beyond comparison. He changed completely the way people play electric guitar, and what he did was so powerful it also changed other instruments, and music in general.

    Listen to electric guitar playing prior to Hendrix and you realize that nobody was taking advantage of the full potential of the instrument. People played it the same way they played acoustic. There were lots of great players (especially in jazz) who could play fast, but nobody was taking advantage of the unlimited range of tones offered by an electric instrument. With Hendrix, everything goes from black and white to technicolor. The guitar can sound like a flute, or a thousand cellos, or a set of bongos, and it can even sound like a helicopter, or wind, or an explosion, or lots of other things that weren't usually considered music. That's pretty revolutionary.

    One problem with musical innovators is that, after they show everybody how it's done, their innovations become the new normal, and people forgot how incredibly different they were when they first appeared. Once people saw and heard Hendrix, they copied him. His sound became part of mainstream, and people nowadays generally don't get how incredibly ahead of his time Hendrix was.

    I don't mean that as a put down on anyone: it's not anyone's fault. This is just how music evolves. There are a few people who come along with something new that changes everything (Coltrane, Hendrix, Dylan) and they there's lots of great players and singers and songwriters who take what they did and bring it to the masses. In my mind, we can't compare the two. But that's just me.

    FWIW, I think the GOGD belong in the class of innovators, as a group, because they came up with a style of ensemble playing that nobody had done before, and which became widely copied once it was heard. Just like you can't really compare other guitarists to Hendrix, you can't compare other jam bands to the GD, even though those bands can be very enjoyable.

    Standard disclaimer here: this is all just my opinion, your opinion is just as valid, blah blah.

    No shipping notice for me yet on #41, maties. I did, however, pre-order the vinyl 3.1.69 from Amazon, so we'll see that goes. I am in the midst of a major '69 bender, pulling out Two from the Vault and DiP 16 and 26 and whatnot. This is all YOUR fault, all youse who keeps demanding a '69 box. And I'm with ye if you want storm the vault to get one. Nothing like '69. Huh huh.

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You can listen to Grateful Dead records over and over again and never understand the attraction they have for certain people until you attend one of their concerts. Sometime during the Dead's usual five-hour set, it will all click: Jerry Garcia's Indian bead string of notes on the guitar, the ozone ooze of the vocal harmonies, the shifting, shuffling rhythm of bassist Phil Lesh and drummer Bill Kreutzmann, and the distant echo of the oldest of American folk music. - Columbia Flier

"Certain people" will know that we're coming in hot with one that's got all these things and more, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 41: BALTIMORE CIVIC CENTER, BALTIMORE, MARYLAND, 5/26/77. Yes, there's still plenty of spectacular May '77 to go around. Nearly chosen for Dave's Picks Vol. 1, 5/26/77 delivers three-fold. There's one count for the energy - all the precision of the Spring tour conjuring up the raw power of the Fall tour that was to come. There's another for the setlist which featured beloved songs from WORKINGMAN'S DEAD and soon-to-be favorites from the freshly recorded TERRAPIN STATION. And a third for its element of surprise (or shall we say surprises) from an astonishingly peak 15-minute "Sugaree" to new delights ("Sunrise," "Passenger," "Jack-A-Roe') to a rare first-set finale of "Bertha" to the second set's "Terrapin>Estimated>Eyes," traveling leaps and bounds towards the improvisational journey that is a nearly 17-minute "Not Fade Away." 

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 41: BALTIMORE CIVIC CENTER, BALTIMORE, MARYLAND, 5/26/77 was recorded by Betty Cantor-Jackson and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. Grab a copy while you can.

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Submitted by J3FF on Fri, 02/04/2022 - 23:02

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My prior post was about DP41. And my follow-up comment you saw was because I keep holding out hope that Dave or someone else at the company will read one of my product comments... but when comments about the product get buried in an avalanche of unrelated discussion, it seems even more unlikely that anyone at Dead-dot-net would ever hear product feedback.

Not saying you guys aren't entertaining... I enjoyed your responses and certainly don't want to rain on any parades... just that I would ALSO like a way to get product feedback back to the folks I send lots of my money to.

Annnnd... I just found the customer service email... so I guess I'll give that a shot for customer feedback and come back here after I've had a chance to think carefully about my position on pork chops.
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Submitted by simonrob on Sat, 02/05/2022 - 05:56

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It is widely assumed that the powers that be do see what gets posted on here, but there is no definite proof of this as far as I know. Certainly they never communicate with us via these boards. As for customer service, I think that is outsourced. Contact with customer service is via a contact form that can be found under "help/customer service" at the very bottom of the page. You can also find "feedback" at the bottom of the page. By clicking on that you can send feedback about anything you choose. Maybe that is what you were looking for. Certainly it has to be worth a try.

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Submitted by LedDed on Sat, 02/05/2022 - 07:09

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This is as good as the Dead ever played. 1977 may be their zenith as live performers... by 1978 I hear a certain element of fatigue and overindulgence creeping in. From somewhere between late 1971 to 1973 and 1977, it was the best it would ever be. Disc 3 here is so good, I've earmarked it for newbies and people who dismiss the band as sloppy.

Been listening to a ton of Little Feat lately. Awesome, underrated band especially when Lowell George was still with them.

Happy weekend everyone!

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Submitted by proudfoot on Sat, 02/05/2022 - 07:40

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Monitors at least. Dave might read this stuff. But in the long run, I don't any of the ptb have any fux to give about our salad de wourde.

Outside I hear a massive cacophony of crows (this is a fact)

Crows told me. About 80 of them flew overhead when I was out with the dog: "Time to pop the shrinkwrap on 41, bitch!"

:)))

Recall that Norman responded once to admit that he did in fact jack up the bass on 8-25-72.

And several years ago Marye relayed us a message indicating that (at the time) Rhino/WMG weren’t really interested in processing the video Vault for commercial release.

It was during one of those times that we were discussing the release of video, much like a week or two ago, and as we frequently do, to keep getting the message out that we want more video.
We got a taste with the Giants Box, and some teasers for Shakedown Stream.

I think that streaming or download is the way to go for the 90’s shows that are a recording of the video feed during the show (which includes the computer generated graphics mixed in).
For physical product we still need complete, or as close as possible, audio/video Boxes of:
Winterland October 74
Fall 80
Alpine 89
Tinley Park 90
And everything with Pigpen

I have that Family Dog DVD, it’s grate. If video of the whole shows exists get it out there.
And everything from Europe like Rockpalast and 72.

LedDed,
I like the Little Feat show from Rockpalast.

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Submitted by carlo13 on Sat, 02/05/2022 - 10:12

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Sounds great so far. Tonight I will listen to 2nd set. As far as the HOF, what a joke. Ted nugent said recently, "MC5 is nominated, but triumph is not?" Very true. Triumph was a great band. Rik emmet played a flying V guitar for christ sakes.

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Submitted by Oroborous on Sat, 02/05/2022 - 10:49

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Saw them at Klienhans Music hall, where the philharmonic plays (very small) on 7/7/79.
(Dead played there with the philharmonic On 3/17/70. I saw my first Bobbie show there on election night 1980)

Since Triumph were perhaps more used to playing hockey rinks etc, they had pyrotechnics which they blew off opening song, and thus instantly completely filled the tiny smoke free venue with a cloud of smoke so thick we were having a hard time breathing up in the balcony LOL. Almost had to stop the show right there!
It was like something out of Spinal Tap: clueless rock band almost stops show first song at historic Music hall
God I love Rock and Roll!

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Submitted by daverock on Sat, 02/05/2022 - 11:12

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Now there's a rock n' roll hall of fame type of guy ! I'd never heard of Triumph up until 2 minutes ago. And in 2 minutes time I will have forgotten about them again. Unless of course there is a heated debate on here about their pros and cons.

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Sat, 02/05/2022 - 12:06

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....now there's a band I haven't heard of for a long, long time. Thanks for that. Checking out Allied Forces now.
Got the house to myself for the first time in a long time. I heard my amp goes to 11.
Music is the best. Currently partial to some 79-84 new wave/hair metal/punk, so Triumph fits the bill. Remember Fastway?
Let's get heated. The Early '80's is in my wheelhouse. I'll take stuff I'm knowledgeable about for $500 Alex.
Edit. I miss record stores.

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Sat, 02/05/2022 - 12:23

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....don't mind if I do!
Anyone here remember Saxon? They used to toss their guitars to each other onstage. And Biff Byford has a voice for the ages.
Oh. And so did Jerry.
Apologies to J3FF btw. I didn't scroll back far enough. My bad.

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Submitted by nitecat on Sat, 02/05/2022 - 12:42

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I saw Fela Kuti twice, once at the Berkeley Community Theater in '86, once at the Warfield in 90. Not rock, but very exciting polyrythmic music with nice melodies on guitar. He was quite a character, a real showman in an eccentric way. While the music was happening around him, he would stalk the stage, singing and talking about social issues. I taped both shows, and my friend has been bugging me to digitize them so he can hear them.

I listened to the third CD last night again, and it's a winner! Nice smooth transitions between songs, great guitar work, especially in eyes and the very sweet, if a little short, encore of Uncle John's. I started playing it at 10;30 pm, and my housemate, who was about to go to bed, stayed up for the entire set, entranced.

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Submitted by carlo13 on Sat, 02/05/2022 - 12:55

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Allied forces is your classic american 70s/80s keg party music. Rock on V. Fastway-say what you will- has a video with hot chicks on an assembly line of beauty. Oh to be in my twenties again.

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Sat, 02/05/2022 - 12:59

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....I think Whitesnake has a patent on that. Rock on indeed.
Triumph has some damn good riffs.
Can I change my username to Flying V?
BRB.

....that no one had mentioned the gatefold on the Baltimore release.
Awesome pic. 👌
I'm going into the third disc. Will comment live.
"But he cannot be bought or sold."
"Inspiration. Move me brightly."

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Sat, 02/05/2022 - 13:20

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...."two, four, six. Don't worry about me no."

....GDTRFB with a palate cleanser.
Someone earlier said UJB was cut short. I agree.
Awesome Not Fade. Four 🌟 🌟 🌟 🌟's out of four or so.

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Submitted by FiveBranch on Sat, 02/05/2022 - 15:15

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From not having listened to May '77 in quite a while, I was yet again blown away at how clean the music is. It's like they are saying 'Hey doubters! We too can play like this. When we want'. Jerry in particular. Just firing away with precision first set. And check out how solid those lines are in Terrapin. That bold lead allows the rest of the band to just naturally fall off to decorate the wake behind what he's pulling forward front and center. Those perfectly placed and timed sustains. Love 'em. And the last minute or so of GDTRFB is quite the surprise!

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Submitted by carlo13 on Sat, 02/05/2022 - 16:25

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The sopranos had a quote about Maryland. Tony Sopranos father-in-law said "In the army, russ had a case of the crabs so bad that they called him the governor of maryland.".

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Sat, 02/05/2022 - 21:05

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....takes off sometimes 🚀.
Edit. Just finished watching Disney's Encanto at my son's behest.
7.7/10. Good songs 🎵.

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Submitted by nappyrags on Sat, 02/05/2022 - 22:42

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Just me and my headphones....A CM Board...Second Set Only...whew....

Grateful Dead
War Memorial Auditorium
Buffalo, NY
September 26, 1981

--Set 2--
Playing in the Band ->
Bertha ->
Estimated Prophet ->
Goin' Down the Road (Feeling Bad) ->
Drums ->
Space ->
Not Fade Away ->
Morning Dew ->
Playing in the Band ->
One More Saturday Night
--Encore--
Johnny B. Goode

Beauty eh!
Was fortunate to be at that one.
It shows up a lot via Dave and Sirius etc, and ranks high in surveys…

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Submitted by proudfoot on Sun, 02/06/2022 - 11:12

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Ja, gerne

I had it on cassette for a long time

A little speedy and almost no Phil

Soundboard out there?

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Submitted by Dennis on Sun, 02/06/2022 - 13:18

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I checked my copy, meh. Checked archive,,, the copy with 22,335 downloads had the best sound,,,, maybe not for the whole show. Miller seem to have a good sound second set.

later

Nice work Dennis.

The sign says long-haired hippie people need not apply.
But short-haired upstanding citizens? Welcome aboard.

I’m pulling a Vguy and have sports on (Olympics) with sound muted, and GOGD playing.
Just finished 1-3-70%, now on 6-15-76.

Got 5-26-77 processed and on my music player. Played it today and it sounded spectacular. Lots of Phil coming out of the subwoofer. Precision jamming. Yes, the NFA is mighty fine, as commented on by others previously.

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Sun, 02/06/2022 - 21:24

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....aww shucks and thingies.
I bought an acoustic Yamaha today btw. An entry level one. Also had an electric Ibanez Roadstar II handed down to me by my late father in law restrung. Found his old Peavey amp in the spare room closet to boot. Time to stop thinking about it and actually do it.
Winter Olympics are fun and treasures can be found in random closets.
I used to carve on a snowboard....but not like these pros. It's cool when they land a 720 to the beat of whatever im currently playing on my stare-ee-o. Which happens to be a phish Tweezer.
Step into the freezer.
Edit. 1620 degree jumps. Poetry in motion.

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Submitted by wadeocu on Mon, 02/07/2022 - 06:55

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I had a chance to listen to the whole release in one day yesterday. When the filler came up I was into it. I kind of liked the way the NFA chant faded in giving a nod to the jam highlight of the release - NFA! I like filler. Liked it on my tapes and like it on my discs. Otherwise you can get to ripping and burning to scratch yer itch. And on the subject of NFA - wow - this could be an all time NFA>GDTRFB! Dig Phil channeling Caution upon the return to NFA at about the 15 minute mark! So on the subject of filler I like to quote Uncle Bobo himself: "mua, mua, mua"!!!

My guesses would be:

April '78
April '69
Oct. '89
Summer '85

But, you know what they say: Good things come to those who....Pester, Pester, Pester! :-)

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Submitted by deadegad on Wed, 02/09/2022 - 06:31

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Dear Dave L: A September 1979 3 show run in N.Y.C. @ MSG would be a great mini-boxset. These were Brent's first N.Y.C. shows and at MSG to boot. They were very solid shows: The GD Came, Saw, Conquered!!! As another poster noted Steve Parish' Harley was parked on stage and someone gunned the engine multiple times during the show and it was noticed by the audience and would be audible. Cool. Period.

Pester, pester, pester because this squeaky wheel will get that oil!

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