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    You can listen to Grateful Dead records over and over again and never understand the attraction they have for certain people until you attend one of their concerts. Sometime during the Dead's usual five-hour set, it will all click: Jerry Garcia's Indian bead string of notes on the guitar, the ozone ooze of the vocal harmonies, the shifting, shuffling rhythm of bassist Phil Lesh and drummer Bill Kreutzmann, and the distant echo of the oldest of American folk music. - Columbia Flier

    "Certain people" will know that we're coming in hot with one that's got all these things and more, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 41: BALTIMORE CIVIC CENTER, BALTIMORE, MARYLAND, 5/26/77. Yes, there's still plenty of spectacular May '77 to go around. Nearly chosen for Dave's Picks Vol. 1, 5/26/77 delivers three-fold. There's one count for the energy - all the precision of the Spring tour conjuring up the raw power of the Fall tour that was to come. There's another for the setlist which featured beloved songs from WORKINGMAN'S DEAD and soon-to-be favorites from the freshly recorded TERRAPIN STATION. And a third for its element of surprise (or shall we say surprises) from an astonishingly peak 15-minute "Sugaree" to new delights ("Sunrise," "Passenger," "Jack-A-Roe') to a rare first-set finale of "Bertha" to the second set's "Terrapin>Estimated>Eyes," traveling leaps and bounds towards the improvisational journey that is a nearly 17-minute "Not Fade Away." 

    Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 41: BALTIMORE CIVIC CENTER, BALTIMORE, MARYLAND, 5/26/77 was recorded by Betty Cantor-Jackson and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. Grab a copy while you can.

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  • #621
    Vguy72
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    So, I checked out the first set of Baltimore again....

    ....and the Jack-A-Roe, Minglewood, Bertha still holds up!!
    I thought it was a dream.
    I'm OK w/ being wrong.
    And I bid you goodnight.

  • #622
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    Micro-dosing....

    ....after being out of the psychedelic loop for over 15 years, I finally found a hookup. Psilocybin laced chocolate is the latest thing apparently.
    I cosmic yawned Saturday. Twas cool.

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    Now you tell me..

    What am I supposed to do, pull over and hope I don't see any cops for the next 12 hours? Besides, posting while driving is much more dangerous, it's a good thing I'm tripping or I don't think I could have pulled this off right now.

    Cosmic Yawns.. still cracks me up. How long until that phrase appears in the Urban Dictionary? I have learned more reading posts here than many things they teach in college. (before anyone gets any ideas, leave my alma mater alone..)

    It's quite possible, if I could go back in time and attend one show while dosed.. it would be 11/8/69 Fillmore Auditorium, Dicks Picks 16. Or the FW 69 entire run. Shows I wish I dosed at. Time to fire up the John Deere.

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    Apologies. It all seems so long ago now. I don't feel old enough to have lived so long !

  • #625
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    just to clarify

    Daverock, I never advocated driving under the influence, I just knew a guy who could drive really well dosed. Got to concur with others here that in my experience, shrooms are the way to go. I too, get those yawns, eyes start to water as you yawn away, a sure sign something is about to happen. Living in Florida all thru the 90's from May to Sep. sometimes Oct. we would be in the fields, every weekend. I enjoyed picking almost as much as consuming, well, almost. Been out of the loop for almost 20 yrs now, 2004 was the last time and 1999 was the last time with A. Miss those days but nowdays would have to be home, nice chill, with Jerry G and Gang or .... insert favorite trip music.

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    When the going gets weird

    The weird turn pro!

    EDIT: by “eat anything” I meant that no matter how the band played they thought it was the goat…
    The band used to shit talk the fans: “they’ll eat anything”
    I think monsieur Freak meant like eat as in literally to consume. In which case, I get the impression he’d excel at the latter, but not the former ; )

    PT: Yaasss, not to advocate, but I know a guy like that. Knew a few who could drive after tripping ok, but this guy excelled at it!

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    Brilliant, Oro....

    "over intoxicated noncritical clueless young fans who would eat anything"

    Um, you must have known me "BITD"!

    As a friend once said: "LSD is a young man's sport."

    It's all about practice, and courage, no?

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    Silly rabbit, yawn lol

    Trips are for kids lol. Wasn’t that a t-shirt BITD?

    Best place to trip was in the front row of GA Dead shows!
    Like the dude in the Winterland movie.
    Some of the best experiences of my life. Being that close, if your coherent and really paying attention, it’s like your in the band. Being a musician, you could catch them making little mistakes etc, and throwing things back and forth, and they have this whole other level of communication going on, much like anyone who works in an intimate, intense group setting. So they could tell if you were hip to what was actually going on and if so, they’d include you. Like say Jerry missed a solo, he’d look to see who was watching, who caught it, and if you did, and he knew you did, it was great fun.
    The best was busting Bobbies balls all the time. We’d pester him to play the good shit in stead of endless repeated lame stuff. Usually stuff he wasn’t currently doing. He’d get kinda miffed, but Phil would laugh his ass off and egg us on, great fun! Billy too, but when he was playing he usually didn’t make a lot of eye contact, which if you’ve ever watched him up close you know he’s like a possessed person with his eyes all rolling in his head in another place, Bob gets like that too. etc. Kieth didn’t look around much. Brent seemed surprised/happy that anyone paid that kind of attention to him lol. Never got close to Vince?
    Mickey liked to show off. If he knew you were watching, he’d do some extra rolls or something special to see if you caught it, he’d test ya, hell they all would. I’m sure it was more fun for them to have folks close by that actually had an idea what was actually happening and not just some over intoxicated noncritical clueless young fans who would eat anything as they’d say. Think screaming girls at Beatles concerts…probably would get pretty old.
    But for the initiated, with everything dialed in just right, there was nothing else like it!

    TRIP TIPS: Tolerance and familiarity, practice is the key. Just like with weed. When I was a professional and ate veggies all the time, id do all kinds of stuff, I’d go have a quick bite with the folks before things came on full blast. I didn’t like driving, but I’d be the one to go in the store at 3am and stock up on beer etc, because I was in practice, I did it all the time. Now I’d probably be scared to leave the house lol.
    So like anything, if your comfortable and used to it, it’s easier etc, that and I agree that knowing what/how much etc is crucial to having a good experience. This is true with ANYTHING. Remember, if your going to be dumb, ya better be tough, and having an overly intense or bad trip for 12-20 hours ain’t fun!
    Oh, and keep busy. How many times have you been really high but because your playing music, or skiing, something involved that your into or whatever, and your all good until you stop, then your like “holy crap am I fucking high” lol. Playing music, especially live was like this. As long as you were playing, you were good! One time we were doing A and crank. During rehearsal, while playing, I was fine, but as soon as we’d take a break, lol, wooooeeee, shit was intense! So don’t get hung up. Keep playing lol.

    The few less than stellar trips I had were on Acid I wasn’t familiar with, or, occasionally, because of cumulative effect of too much for too long etc. oh, and yes HF, gotta watch that shroom powder in the bottom of the bag! LOL, whole long story about how I lost my shit in Hershey cause of the bottom of the bag shroom dust! (didn’t actually loose my shit, did need to lay down in the mud for a bit, but saw a home made shirt there that had that on it and always wished I had one lol. “I lost my shit in Hershey lol)
    BITD Did plenty of A, but never liked big doses. Shrooms on the other hand, I was a warrior! Built up a nice tolerance BITD so could do strong doses and we did em often.
    Nowadays, no desire to do A, well, micro thing could be interesting?
    Veggies I’ve thought of retrying, just afraid I might have some other underlying unknown health concerns that they would exasperate? BP, heart etc?
    Also don’t really have anybody to trip with, and the other half has never used anything more than drink, so not sure I’d want to go alone with just her around in case shit got weird? She’s a bit of a worrier so might get too worried and put too much weird energy out? Wouldn’t be good time for either of us.
    Someday I’ll find the right situation. X, I have no desire to revisit. It was fun, but like A, I always felt like “this shit is really no good for me”. Never felt that way with the produce.

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    Sixtus - your account chimes very well with my experiences. I started doing voluntary work in 1987, the year I re-discovered mushrooms, and I did both until 1993. Its very hard to put, credibly, into words, but I felt very strongly that there was no difference between the people as I was trying to help and myself. That we were all different versions of each other. This wasn't an idea, or a theory, it was felt experience. Something that had always been there but which I had never noticed before. It influenced how I worked with people then and in the job I subsequently got. Meditation also became part of my life around then, and for me that was also part of how things unfolded. It never occurred to me to do this until a chance encounter with someone who did. That was another incredible surprise doing that -very different from what I thought it was. But that's not relevant for on here.
    Somebody told me yesterday that Putin is addicted to steroids. I have no idea if this is true...but it figures.

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    ...I too experience these 'cosmic yawns' (awesome label BTW, HF) pretty much every time on shrooms (including last Thursday for the Phish opener in Mexico!).

    I had looked into this a little while back out of curiosity, noting the frequency of occurrence on my end.
    Turns out they don't know *exactly* why it happens, but I did find this excerpt to throw some light on the topic:

    "It’s also important to know from a physiological standpoint why magic mushrooms cause yawning in some people. What it comes down to is formulations containing precise amounts of certain compounds. Studying and understanding all of the compounds found in magic mushrooms and how they work together may result in formulations that have different properties (and therefore different effects) than pure psilocybin or magic mushrooms."

    A deeper study indicates it has to do with affinity for the receptor that initiates a yawn, so it appears to be dependent very much upon the actual physical construction and binding of the various molecules within each individual.

    A very interesting topic overall, to be sure. And I agree that the takeaways from these experiences (especially the early ones back in college times) are best digested from a few steps back to try to understand how the things I experienced impacted me and my worldview - which they did in numerous, profoundly positive ways. The very first time after I did psychedelics (shrooms) back in my freshman year of college, I recall in the midst, as well as afterwards, the discussion being "If everyone in the world did shrooms all at the same time, there would forever be world peace." It was that monumental discovery that everything, all of us, all of it - is all connected and those innate feelings of "looking out for humanity" become embedded (or perhaps brought back to the forefront after being subconsciously suppressed). These realizations then have lingered with me my entire life.

    It seems that World Dosing at this point might be a reasonable idea to get everyone on the same page and back to looking out for each other.

    Be Well People.
    Sixtus

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You can listen to Grateful Dead records over and over again and never understand the attraction they have for certain people until you attend one of their concerts. Sometime during the Dead's usual five-hour set, it will all click: Jerry Garcia's Indian bead string of notes on the guitar, the ozone ooze of the vocal harmonies, the shifting, shuffling rhythm of bassist Phil Lesh and drummer Bill Kreutzmann, and the distant echo of the oldest of American folk music. - Columbia Flier

"Certain people" will know that we're coming in hot with one that's got all these things and more, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 41: BALTIMORE CIVIC CENTER, BALTIMORE, MARYLAND, 5/26/77. Yes, there's still plenty of spectacular May '77 to go around. Nearly chosen for Dave's Picks Vol. 1, 5/26/77 delivers three-fold. There's one count for the energy - all the precision of the Spring tour conjuring up the raw power of the Fall tour that was to come. There's another for the setlist which featured beloved songs from WORKINGMAN'S DEAD and soon-to-be favorites from the freshly recorded TERRAPIN STATION. And a third for its element of surprise (or shall we say surprises) from an astonishingly peak 15-minute "Sugaree" to new delights ("Sunrise," "Passenger," "Jack-A-Roe') to a rare first-set finale of "Bertha" to the second set's "Terrapin>Estimated>Eyes," traveling leaps and bounds towards the improvisational journey that is a nearly 17-minute "Not Fade Away." 

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 41: BALTIMORE CIVIC CENTER, BALTIMORE, MARYLAND, 5/26/77 was recorded by Betty Cantor-Jackson and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. Grab a copy while you can.

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My prior post was about DP41. And my follow-up comment you saw was because I keep holding out hope that Dave or someone else at the company will read one of my product comments... but when comments about the product get buried in an avalanche of unrelated discussion, it seems even more unlikely that anyone at Dead-dot-net would ever hear product feedback.

Not saying you guys aren't entertaining... I enjoyed your responses and certainly don't want to rain on any parades... just that I would ALSO like a way to get product feedback back to the folks I send lots of my money to.

Annnnd... I just found the customer service email... so I guess I'll give that a shot for customer feedback and come back here after I've had a chance to think carefully about my position on pork chops.
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Submitted by simonrob on Sat, 02/05/2022 - 05:56

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It is widely assumed that the powers that be do see what gets posted on here, but there is no definite proof of this as far as I know. Certainly they never communicate with us via these boards. As for customer service, I think that is outsourced. Contact with customer service is via a contact form that can be found under "help/customer service" at the very bottom of the page. You can also find "feedback" at the bottom of the page. By clicking on that you can send feedback about anything you choose. Maybe that is what you were looking for. Certainly it has to be worth a try.

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Submitted by LedDed on Sat, 02/05/2022 - 07:09

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This is as good as the Dead ever played. 1977 may be their zenith as live performers... by 1978 I hear a certain element of fatigue and overindulgence creeping in. From somewhere between late 1971 to 1973 and 1977, it was the best it would ever be. Disc 3 here is so good, I've earmarked it for newbies and people who dismiss the band as sloppy.

Been listening to a ton of Little Feat lately. Awesome, underrated band especially when Lowell George was still with them.

Happy weekend everyone!

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Submitted by proudfoot on Sat, 02/05/2022 - 07:40

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Monitors at least. Dave might read this stuff. But in the long run, I don't any of the ptb have any fux to give about our salad de wourde.

Outside I hear a massive cacophony of crows (this is a fact)

Crows told me. About 80 of them flew overhead when I was out with the dog: "Time to pop the shrinkwrap on 41, bitch!"

:)))

Recall that Norman responded once to admit that he did in fact jack up the bass on 8-25-72.

And several years ago Marye relayed us a message indicating that (at the time) Rhino/WMG weren’t really interested in processing the video Vault for commercial release.

It was during one of those times that we were discussing the release of video, much like a week or two ago, and as we frequently do, to keep getting the message out that we want more video.
We got a taste with the Giants Box, and some teasers for Shakedown Stream.

I think that streaming or download is the way to go for the 90’s shows that are a recording of the video feed during the show (which includes the computer generated graphics mixed in).
For physical product we still need complete, or as close as possible, audio/video Boxes of:
Winterland October 74
Fall 80
Alpine 89
Tinley Park 90
And everything with Pigpen

I have that Family Dog DVD, it’s grate. If video of the whole shows exists get it out there.
And everything from Europe like Rockpalast and 72.

LedDed,
I like the Little Feat show from Rockpalast.

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Submitted by carlo13 on Sat, 02/05/2022 - 10:12

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Sounds great so far. Tonight I will listen to 2nd set. As far as the HOF, what a joke. Ted nugent said recently, "MC5 is nominated, but triumph is not?" Very true. Triumph was a great band. Rik emmet played a flying V guitar for christ sakes.

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Submitted by Oroborous on Sat, 02/05/2022 - 10:49

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Saw them at Klienhans Music hall, where the philharmonic plays (very small) on 7/7/79.
(Dead played there with the philharmonic On 3/17/70. I saw my first Bobbie show there on election night 1980)

Since Triumph were perhaps more used to playing hockey rinks etc, they had pyrotechnics which they blew off opening song, and thus instantly completely filled the tiny smoke free venue with a cloud of smoke so thick we were having a hard time breathing up in the balcony LOL. Almost had to stop the show right there!
It was like something out of Spinal Tap: clueless rock band almost stops show first song at historic Music hall
God I love Rock and Roll!

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Submitted by daverock on Sat, 02/05/2022 - 11:12

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Now there's a rock n' roll hall of fame type of guy ! I'd never heard of Triumph up until 2 minutes ago. And in 2 minutes time I will have forgotten about them again. Unless of course there is a heated debate on here about their pros and cons.

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Sat, 02/05/2022 - 12:06

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....now there's a band I haven't heard of for a long, long time. Thanks for that. Checking out Allied Forces now.
Got the house to myself for the first time in a long time. I heard my amp goes to 11.
Music is the best. Currently partial to some 79-84 new wave/hair metal/punk, so Triumph fits the bill. Remember Fastway?
Let's get heated. The Early '80's is in my wheelhouse. I'll take stuff I'm knowledgeable about for $500 Alex.
Edit. I miss record stores.

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Sat, 02/05/2022 - 12:23

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....don't mind if I do!
Anyone here remember Saxon? They used to toss their guitars to each other onstage. And Biff Byford has a voice for the ages.
Oh. And so did Jerry.
Apologies to J3FF btw. I didn't scroll back far enough. My bad.

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Submitted by nitecat on Sat, 02/05/2022 - 12:42

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I saw Fela Kuti twice, once at the Berkeley Community Theater in '86, once at the Warfield in 90. Not rock, but very exciting polyrythmic music with nice melodies on guitar. He was quite a character, a real showman in an eccentric way. While the music was happening around him, he would stalk the stage, singing and talking about social issues. I taped both shows, and my friend has been bugging me to digitize them so he can hear them.

I listened to the third CD last night again, and it's a winner! Nice smooth transitions between songs, great guitar work, especially in eyes and the very sweet, if a little short, encore of Uncle John's. I started playing it at 10;30 pm, and my housemate, who was about to go to bed, stayed up for the entire set, entranced.

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Submitted by carlo13 on Sat, 02/05/2022 - 12:55

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Allied forces is your classic american 70s/80s keg party music. Rock on V. Fastway-say what you will- has a video with hot chicks on an assembly line of beauty. Oh to be in my twenties again.

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Sat, 02/05/2022 - 12:59

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....I think Whitesnake has a patent on that. Rock on indeed.
Triumph has some damn good riffs.
Can I change my username to Flying V?
BRB.

....that no one had mentioned the gatefold on the Baltimore release.
Awesome pic. 👌
I'm going into the third disc. Will comment live.
"But he cannot be bought or sold."
"Inspiration. Move me brightly."

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Sat, 02/05/2022 - 13:20

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...."two, four, six. Don't worry about me no."

....GDTRFB with a palate cleanser.
Someone earlier said UJB was cut short. I agree.
Awesome Not Fade. Four 🌟 🌟 🌟 🌟's out of four or so.

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Submitted by FiveBranch on Sat, 02/05/2022 - 15:15

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From not having listened to May '77 in quite a while, I was yet again blown away at how clean the music is. It's like they are saying 'Hey doubters! We too can play like this. When we want'. Jerry in particular. Just firing away with precision first set. And check out how solid those lines are in Terrapin. That bold lead allows the rest of the band to just naturally fall off to decorate the wake behind what he's pulling forward front and center. Those perfectly placed and timed sustains. Love 'em. And the last minute or so of GDTRFB is quite the surprise!

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Submitted by carlo13 on Sat, 02/05/2022 - 16:25

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The sopranos had a quote about Maryland. Tony Sopranos father-in-law said "In the army, russ had a case of the crabs so bad that they called him the governor of maryland.".

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Sat, 02/05/2022 - 21:05

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....takes off sometimes 🚀.
Edit. Just finished watching Disney's Encanto at my son's behest.
7.7/10. Good songs 🎵.

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Submitted by nappyrags on Sat, 02/05/2022 - 22:42

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Just me and my headphones....A CM Board...Second Set Only...whew....

Grateful Dead
War Memorial Auditorium
Buffalo, NY
September 26, 1981

--Set 2--
Playing in the Band ->
Bertha ->
Estimated Prophet ->
Goin' Down the Road (Feeling Bad) ->
Drums ->
Space ->
Not Fade Away ->
Morning Dew ->
Playing in the Band ->
One More Saturday Night
--Encore--
Johnny B. Goode

Beauty eh!
Was fortunate to be at that one.
It shows up a lot via Dave and Sirius etc, and ranks high in surveys…

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Submitted by proudfoot on Sun, 02/06/2022 - 11:12

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Ja, gerne

I had it on cassette for a long time

A little speedy and almost no Phil

Soundboard out there?

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Submitted by Dennis on Sun, 02/06/2022 - 13:18

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I checked my copy, meh. Checked archive,,, the copy with 22,335 downloads had the best sound,,,, maybe not for the whole show. Miller seem to have a good sound second set.

later

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Submitted by icecrmcnkd on Sun, 02/06/2022 - 16:46

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Nice work Dennis.

The sign says long-haired hippie people need not apply.
But short-haired upstanding citizens? Welcome aboard.

I’m pulling a Vguy and have sports on (Olympics) with sound muted, and GOGD playing.
Just finished 1-3-70%, now on 6-15-76.

Got 5-26-77 processed and on my music player. Played it today and it sounded spectacular. Lots of Phil coming out of the subwoofer. Precision jamming. Yes, the NFA is mighty fine, as commented on by others previously.

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Sun, 02/06/2022 - 21:24

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....aww shucks and thingies.
I bought an acoustic Yamaha today btw. An entry level one. Also had an electric Ibanez Roadstar II handed down to me by my late father in law restrung. Found his old Peavey amp in the spare room closet to boot. Time to stop thinking about it and actually do it.
Winter Olympics are fun and treasures can be found in random closets.
I used to carve on a snowboard....but not like these pros. It's cool when they land a 720 to the beat of whatever im currently playing on my stare-ee-o. Which happens to be a phish Tweezer.
Step into the freezer.
Edit. 1620 degree jumps. Poetry in motion.

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Submitted by wadeocu on Mon, 02/07/2022 - 06:55

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I had a chance to listen to the whole release in one day yesterday. When the filler came up I was into it. I kind of liked the way the NFA chant faded in giving a nod to the jam highlight of the release - NFA! I like filler. Liked it on my tapes and like it on my discs. Otherwise you can get to ripping and burning to scratch yer itch. And on the subject of NFA - wow - this could be an all time NFA>GDTRFB! Dig Phil channeling Caution upon the return to NFA at about the 15 minute mark! So on the subject of filler I like to quote Uncle Bobo himself: "mua, mua, mua"!!!

My guesses would be:

April '78
April '69
Oct. '89
Summer '85

But, you know what they say: Good things come to those who....Pester, Pester, Pester! :-)

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Submitted by deadegad on Wed, 02/09/2022 - 06:31

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Dear Dave L: A September 1979 3 show run in N.Y.C. @ MSG would be a great mini-boxset. These were Brent's first N.Y.C. shows and at MSG to boot. They were very solid shows: The GD Came, Saw, Conquered!!! As another poster noted Steve Parish' Harley was parked on stage and someone gunned the engine multiple times during the show and it was noticed by the audience and would be audible. Cool. Period.

Pester, pester, pester because this squeaky wheel will get that oil!

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