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    You can listen to Grateful Dead records over and over again and never understand the attraction they have for certain people until you attend one of their concerts. Sometime during the Dead's usual five-hour set, it will all click: Jerry Garcia's Indian bead string of notes on the guitar, the ozone ooze of the vocal harmonies, the shifting, shuffling rhythm of bassist Phil Lesh and drummer Bill Kreutzmann, and the distant echo of the oldest of American folk music. - Columbia Flier

    "Certain people" will know that we're coming in hot with one that's got all these things and more, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 41: BALTIMORE CIVIC CENTER, BALTIMORE, MARYLAND, 5/26/77. Yes, there's still plenty of spectacular May '77 to go around. Nearly chosen for Dave's Picks Vol. 1, 5/26/77 delivers three-fold. There's one count for the energy - all the precision of the Spring tour conjuring up the raw power of the Fall tour that was to come. There's another for the setlist which featured beloved songs from WORKINGMAN'S DEAD and soon-to-be favorites from the freshly recorded TERRAPIN STATION. And a third for its element of surprise (or shall we say surprises) from an astonishingly peak 15-minute "Sugaree" to new delights ("Sunrise," "Passenger," "Jack-A-Roe') to a rare first-set finale of "Bertha" to the second set's "Terrapin>Estimated>Eyes," traveling leaps and bounds towards the improvisational journey that is a nearly 17-minute "Not Fade Away." 

    Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 41: BALTIMORE CIVIC CENTER, BALTIMORE, MARYLAND, 5/26/77 was recorded by Betty Cantor-Jackson and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. Grab a copy while you can.

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    "yours truly on public saxophone"

    Who said that, and where were they?

    Answer correctly and win a smile

  • Crow Told Me
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    That was Rich

    Wow, great story, Rich! Really nicely written. I could almost smell the back seat burning.

    Pretty sure I was at 7.13.84 along with Proudfoot. We used to call those early summer shows at the Greek the High Holy Days. I still wonder why there has never been a Greek box. Tape quality issues, maybe? I sure remember those shows fondly.

    I think maybe that particular show was the one where we decided to get a room at this motel on University Ave maybe a mile from the Greek. Which was convenient cos we were none of us in especially good shape for driving after the show. We had like six of us staying in a one bed motel room. We couldn't really sleep, for various reasons, but fortunately a party started up in the parking lot. The whole hotel was filled with Heads, evidently, because some guy started playing tapes out of his van, that night, but instead of complaining everybody just started hanging out in the parking lot, passing around beers and whatnot. I still remember this one couple, they might've been the owners/managers, they were older, the guy was wearing turban, and they were watching us all with wide eyed amazement, wondering who the hell were these crazy people and what was that music?

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    Ok I gave this Dave's release a third listen over the last few days. I really like it. I think Spring 90 was more together and energized, but Summer 90 is pretty damn good. I'm finding I like the second day, 7/19 a little better. It has a Foolish Heart, one of my favs, and some really great guitar work by Jerry throughout. The jam after Playin is really cool, as is the jam out of Uncle John's. I found myself playing those jams a few extra times, they were so good. Jerry sings with passion on all the ballads, even if his voice isn't as sweet as it used to be. The crowd singing the NFA chant at the end gave me shivers, and reminded me how much I loved to see the band with a crowd of deadheads. With such excellent playing, I even look forward to hearing the US Blues encore when we get it in a couple weeks. No shipping notice for me yet.

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    gr8 story Rich

    had an olds delta 98 that was as big as that biscayne, that back seat was literally a couch on wheels.

  • proudfoot
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    And now

    I think I heard Airto on 4 22 79

    Probably cant be released

    Hot show. Ignore the sfb review in the compendium.

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    The Great Trek To The Greek

    1984
    Drove from LA to Bay Area on 7 13 84

    Mike's 69 Ford LTD

    big ol' thang

    AC didnt work

    But it got us there and back

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    Good story Rich

    Detroit Land Yachts.

    I’m not familiar with the Biscayne but in the mid-80’s my friend had a 67 or 68 Oldsmobile Luxury Sedan that could easily fit 8 teenagers comfortably.

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    Awesome story Rich....

    ....slow burn lol.

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    Remembering Baltimore '77

    Burnin' the Seats of the Biscayne
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    The trip to Baltimore from the District of Columbia is virtually a straight run up the neck of a guitar--almost as invariant as a string. You get on I-95, point the car north and let about 30 minutes go by.

    My brother Tom was the wheelman for the ride up to catch the Dead at Baltimore Civic Center. He was then in his first year of law school and, with proceeds earned from pumping gas, had bought a 1962 Chevy Biscayne, which is basically a living room on tires.

    The bench seats, front and back, were full of guys. There was a cassette player, but it was one of those $89 models plugged into the cigarette lighter, with speaker wires trailing into the rear of the car where they attached to tinny speakers free to wander the car's rear deck as the vehicle pitched and rolled up the highway. At several points, the speaker wire was spliced by hand; once in awhile someone had to reconnect errant strands.

    The tape for the ride up had to be one I had just scored in Chapel Hill, where a kid named Ivan Spector had allowed me to dub cassettes from his reels. He had permitted me to copy an April 1977 WNEW radio performance including a song I had called "Inspiration," and another I labeled "California."

    So we had recent Dead to enjoy as we rolled up 95 on May 26, 1977. Somewhere along the way, a pipe was filled and passed across the expanses of the Biscayne interior. Hand to hand, to mouth, and front to back, crossways, frontways and oops, it fell into the crease in the back seat.

    "A prophet on the burning shore..." Ten minutes after the pipe had made its rounds, reports of the scent of smoke reached the driver. Some in the back seat complained of warm bottoms. But there was no smoke or visible flame, just a persistent odor of burning leaves.

    Tom pulled the Biscayne into a gravel lot near the Civic Center and we all hopped out, more curious now about the source of the smell than about the impending concert. We pulled the rear bench out, flipped it upside down and discovered an ever-expanding black circle in the straw matting that formed the interior of the seat: the thing was on fire, albeit a slow burn. The only thing with which to douse the sleepy blaze was cold beer. It seemed a shame to spend beer on the little fire, but that's what we did, then reloaded the bench in the car.

    On the walk up the ramps inside the Civic Center, I wondered if such a secret fire would outwit our attempts to extinguish it. Would there be just ashes when the show was through?

    We were in the balcony, on the left side as you faced the stage. Jerry was on the far side. All I really remember from that night is Bobby chastising the crowd for arriving late to the show, and Jerry grinning broadly as he rocked back and forth playing, the music rising out of him and his bandmates. They seemed like happy spectators at a circus they had called forth.

    The pipe came with us on the trip inside. There was a girl sitting by herself in the row in front of us. The custom in those days was to pass what you had around. I leaned over to interrupt her concentration on the show, but she declined. She couldn't take her eyes off the stage.

    Walking out after the show, I was convinced I'd just seen the best Dead show of my life. Which is exactly what I thought after leaving perhaps a dozen previous shows. "How can they play any better than that?" we wondered, worn out, giddy.

    "Roll on up, gonna roll back down." One of the guys in our group, Dan, was from Baltimore. He knew of a corner bar nearby where the bartender would fill any container you had with beer, call a price, and you could walk out the door.

    From somewhere within the acreage that is the trunk of the Biscayne, Tom produced an empty glass Tropicana jar. He disappeared into the corner bar, which on that May night was wide open, not even a screen on it, and emerged moments later with a frothing jug that the barman guessed was worth around $2.50.

    "Took a whole pail of water..." The seats were mercifully cool as we whisked down 95, passing the glass from mouth to mouth. The dirty little six-banger under the hood was purring that night, past exits and overpasses and open spaces that are no longer there. It would be almost 20 years before we learned that people taped the show that evening, and would share that show (thanks Rick Wurster and Tom Melvin!) with whomever showed an interest.

    Back then, it was as likely as your pants suddenly bursting into flames that the world's greatest rock and roll band would roll all over the world for 30 years, amaze everyone, and preserve performances--for that broad bench seat that is the future--that burn, unextinguishable, like a secret fire.

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    Not my favorite interpreter but a Muddy & Wolf Joe Bonamassa at Red Rocks show is on PBS next Saturday. Probably an old one recycled for begging. I find him difficult to watch but there's no denying the skill of the once child prodigy. Virtually all the true blues legends have said speed doesn't equal soul, starting with the "British invasion" blues interpreters. But influencers they are and thankfully many of us did trace back the true roots eventually. Give me a Stevie Ray any day.
    Cheers

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You can listen to Grateful Dead records over and over again and never understand the attraction they have for certain people until you attend one of their concerts. Sometime during the Dead's usual five-hour set, it will all click: Jerry Garcia's Indian bead string of notes on the guitar, the ozone ooze of the vocal harmonies, the shifting, shuffling rhythm of bassist Phil Lesh and drummer Bill Kreutzmann, and the distant echo of the oldest of American folk music. - Columbia Flier

"Certain people" will know that we're coming in hot with one that's got all these things and more, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 41: BALTIMORE CIVIC CENTER, BALTIMORE, MARYLAND, 5/26/77. Yes, there's still plenty of spectacular May '77 to go around. Nearly chosen for Dave's Picks Vol. 1, 5/26/77 delivers three-fold. There's one count for the energy - all the precision of the Spring tour conjuring up the raw power of the Fall tour that was to come. There's another for the setlist which featured beloved songs from WORKINGMAN'S DEAD and soon-to-be favorites from the freshly recorded TERRAPIN STATION. And a third for its element of surprise (or shall we say surprises) from an astonishingly peak 15-minute "Sugaree" to new delights ("Sunrise," "Passenger," "Jack-A-Roe') to a rare first-set finale of "Bertha" to the second set's "Terrapin>Estimated>Eyes," traveling leaps and bounds towards the improvisational journey that is a nearly 17-minute "Not Fade Away." 

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 41: BALTIMORE CIVIC CENTER, BALTIMORE, MARYLAND, 5/26/77 was recorded by Betty Cantor-Jackson and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. Grab a copy while you can.

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This would make a great release, it needs to be cleaned up a bit. My brother was at this show.

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I'm sure most read the newspaper article that was in the middle of the "booklet".

It compared the recent "dead" show with a recent "zep" show.

I know there are people here who were seeing zep in 77, what was your opinion about the comparison?

An early tape of mine, and an early favorite. This one will get released one day. It's one of those shows with so many firsts. Some of the embryonic jams and solos are unusual and catchy. It really highlights the birth of some of the great songs in their cannon. So yea.. it's not if, but when this will get released.

Wasn't it also the test of a brand-new sound system? I seem to recall someone saying they blew out all the tweeters or blew out the tweeters on one side of the stage or something along those lines.. One of those shows that has some warts but shows so much promise.

On Maples your Brother wasn't the only one there...Listening to an ESPN broadcast of a USC - Stanford game recently, Bill Walton talked about it...made me laff as he stopped talking about the game and talked about the show, all the new tunes and how the newish WOS sound system kept breaking down...his broadcast partner made a comment about how "After all these years of working with you I still don't get it..." And Dennis as far as '77 Zep goes no comparison...Page was out in La La Land behind his smack addiction, boring crowds endlessly as he nodded and bowed his guitar...Bonham wasn't much better with his plodding drum solos, his well documented addiction to alcohol did not make for being a great timekeeper...the last good Zep shows I saw were in '73...by '75 it was on it's way downhill...

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My friend was a big fan of Led Zepplin; he saw them play at Kezar Stadium in S.F. in 1973 ( a week after the Dead played there) and he was real disappointed in the show. He was used to the songs on their records and he didn't think they sounded as good live.

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Whenever this date pops up in real life, anytime I go to write it or type it, I ALWAYS instantly write-in '1973' because 2/9/1973 is so embedded into my psyche on this date for all of the reasons noted here.

Perhaps the best Eyes of the World ever played; ever so skillfully, subtle, improvy, and delightful at almost 20 minutes for a 'first timer out of the gate'. A definite highlight that gave and gave and gave until the very last days of this band. One highlight among so many from this monumental show.
It will see the light of day.
One Day.

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Nappy, is that a picture of you with Muddy Waters? If it is , let's hear the story. It looks like Muddy from the late 1970s. If it's you, it doesn't get any cooler then that.

My friend Dan was at that show. He said the floor was rumbling. I would have for sure been there, but I was out of the country most of '73.

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On recommendation from Liner Notes, I spun Dick's 13- Nassau Coliseum 5/6/81 several times. Very enjoyable high energy show, with lots of jamming in the second set.

My original cassette transfer project had me listen to:
Greek Theater 5/21-22/82
Red Rocks 7/27/82
Fine, fine shows indeed.

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..but so many people beat me to it. Still, I cannot remain silent.

Dennis.. hats off for being both such a stand-up guy and the finest dressed short haired hippie I have ever seen.

A class act.

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what if Dave's comment on "variety" means NOT a box of '80s DATs and cassettes BUT a box of
68? I listened to So Many Roads and they've got a key segment from 3-18-68 (Dark Star>China Cat>The Eleven...

For me to formulate this notion is evidence that hope springs eternal in my GOGD heart.

I have really enjoyed DP 41 and have no issue with letter-perfect GD. Perhaps over time this release will be recognized as one of the high water marks for Betty's recording work.

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Have thoroughly enjoyed Dave's 41. You can't argue that the "just exactly perfect' period was one of the highlights of the of the whole trip. But I am with all of you who are ready for some not exactly perfect 67 to 69 era GOGD. On that note, I'm not sure if its been talked about on here before and I missed it or it got lost in the space called my mind, but the one the stand outs on the 30 Trips box (IMHO) was the 67 show. I loved all of the shows in the box, some more than others, but the 67 show is the one that always catches my attention when it shows up on my playlist. Am I right that this is the only official 67 release so far? Surely it can't be the only one in the vault for the whole year.

Pester, pester, pester!!!

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Yes it's me and THE Man...done in the lobby of The Ash Grove, Spring '72...I had come back to LA from a San Luis Osbispo Forestry Camp where I was living and working after breaking my arm, hence the short hair....My Bud and I went to see Johnny Shines play and Muddy was in the lobby...My bro' Dogweed Al always carried a camera with him and told me to go up to Muddy to ask for a picture...I was like, no, don't want to bother him and Dg Al kept insisting and finally he walked over to Muddy to ask if it was ok to take his picture with me...He beamed and said sure thing and threw his arm around me for the shutter snaps...I was blown away....fast forward a few years...Muddy was set to headline a few nights at the Roxy behind the "Hard Again" LP release...my buddy went one night and took a 5 x 7 print of the picture and was able to get Muddy's autograph on it for me...he mounted that along with the promo placard that was on each table for the LP release party and framed it and gave it to me...sadly that one has disappeared through the years...

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That's as cool as it gets Nappy, thanks for the story.

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That's the show I have played most from the big bad box. Some more of that would go down a treat.

Nappy-great photo.

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How I wish I could time travel to catch a Muddy Waters show(s) from the tour to promote Hard Again. I discovered that cd long afterwards but loved it. That voice! Wow!

That's one cool story and photo.

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nitecat ... I was at all those shows ... I second your emotion .. fine, fine shows indeed! All three red rocks shows were in sometimes gushing "cool Colorado rain" .... and I can specifically recall being at the Greek and hearing Let It Grow and thinking ... how can they continue to build it up and up and up ..... and the crowd is going nuts because they are absolutely KILLING IT !!! Good times had by all, unquestionably

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I've looked like this my whole life, ok, thinner and color in my hair. The best thing about this look,,,, I've never been asked to get out of the car!!! Tripping balls with a bong between the seats and bags of product, gotten plenty of tickets, but really who asks Mister Rogers to get out of the car :-)

Nappy, wow, Muddy, wow! I've never met anyone famous! Seems most have met someone, but me, no one!

Sixtus,,, indeed nice Eyes from 2/9/73. But like Jim and Cumberland,,, never met an Eyes I didn't like. But aren't most of their songs like that, they were all done GREAT at some point. Maybe you just haven't heard that "blew me away" one yet. I sure there has to be at least one GREAT touch of grey!

Sometimes I wonder if Jerry didn't think Eyes was his greatest tune, that the lyrics affected him as much as most of us.

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I sat down for a minute, just now, to pick the junk up in the living room before the cleaning people come. Turned on the TV and the Andy Griffith show was on. A bunch of hillbillies are in Andy office and their doing "Shady Grove". I laughed. Apparently they were there to get Andy hitched to their daughter. But the guy who really loved her, gets her in the end. The guy was Gilligan (bob denver).

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he gave me a grape

no kidding

word salad time: bosses are like diapers: full of $#!+ and all over your @$$

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with: the Zep/Dead comparison contained in the old newspaper article in the DaP 41 booklet. That dude totally got it, unusual for the press; 82 Greeks; Tramjams; Conekid.

Not sure I agree about 2/9/73? Always felt that one is way overrated? Guess I’ll have to listen again but would ya really want that instead of say, the next show as just one example? No offense ment, just riffing. Yes it’s historic, but imho there’s better 73s left to mine. Or fall 72s!

Perhaps Dave should start a side trip series called Daverock, Hendrixfreak & Company that only picks shows you want lol (I’m teasing of course ; )

DENNIS: Smart AND hansom! And apparently quite the badass!

NAPPY: how’s the knee? Great story, thanks for sharing. It’s fun to meet cool peeps!
Alas, I only saw Muddy once. He opened up for Clapton, and blew him away!

Digging this 41. Not a huge 77 guy, but the sound is awesome, and not too much bloomy bass/drums that sometimes hampers shows during this era.The crew seems to keep getting better at fixing these ancient treasures! Dig the set list for the most part. My only complaint, not that I’d call it that is just echoing what others have said about too much 77 COMPARATIVELY , like where’s the PRIMAL dead Dave??
Think we need a 67-early 69 box, AND a fall 89 or 91 box.

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The Hillbilly gang in Sheriff taylor's office were the Darling clan....they figured in quite a few episodes...Head of the family was Briscoe Darling (played by Denver Pyle)...the three brothers were actually members of The Dillards, a well known newer bluegrass group...My favorite quote is when Briscoe asks Andy if he wants to play something with the boys...Andy asks "do we have time for that?"...Briscoe answers "You Got Time To Breathe, You Got Time For Music..."

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I met Sinbad at a bar in E. Lansing circa 2000.

Tuesday afternoon about 3:00. Dollar burgers. He must have had a show that night. He was the only guy in the bar besides us. I was joking with my friends "Hey look guys, it's Sinbad. Turns around at it was! I bought him a $2.00 beer. Cool dude.

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I was thinking more in terms of a complete takeover.

I met John Lydon - Rotten as he then was -in 1976. He said "uh" and I said "uh". A normal conversation between 19 year olds at that time. I think we were on the same page. And I smoked a joint with Phil Lynott and Scott Gorham ( Thin Lizzy) once, round about the same time.

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Dennis thank you for your post. I laughed out loud at 'who would ask Mr Rogers to get out of the car?' and especially 'Tripping Balls.' That's a term I haven't heard used in a sentence in many years!!

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What a great photo, Nappy. Muddy Water's arm around you! The Stones put me onto Muddy Waters in the mid 60s, my first lp of his was Electric Mud which was a bit weird with psychedelic effects. Lucky to see him three times, best was the first, exactly fifty years ago, February 1972 at The Cellar Door, a 160 seat club in Georgetown, D.C. This celebrity thing, happening to be in the right place, right time. Early career as a chef had me cooking for lots of names, best was the night Cab Calloway came, he signed that evening's menu for me. Embarrass myself to start listing names. There's a local celeb in these parts, has a hill farm up on Star Mountain. Jim Rooney, 83 now, still does a show on a tiny independent local radio station WFVR, plays at a local venue that limits to 40 seats. Jim came out with a book maybe 40 years ago, Bossmen, wherein he wrote dual biography about Muddy and Bill Monroe. In various capacities of American Music, Bearsville, Newport Folk, some of the Nashville DNA. A few years ago when Lyle Lovett was touring with John Hiatt, they played locally, invited Jim up to play with them. Looping back, Rooney does a sweet bluegrass version of the Stones "No Expectations".

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I figured that they had to be "somebody". I never watched Andy enough to know "occasional" characters. Of course everyone knows Otis!

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LOL, of course little known fact, the real mister Rodgers was a stone cold freak!
Heard he had a real fetish for shrooms!

DAVEROCK: ; )

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Bossmen, great book, pick, it up if you don't have it. I was fortunate enough to see both Muddy and Bill Monroe play.

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Forgot to bring this up earlier. Did anyone catch the George Kittle interview before the pro bowl? Swear he was wearing a pair of yellow GD Nikes.

A known shroom hound while Mr. Magoo liked his acid strong. H.R. Puffinstuff, well.. too much of everything was just enough.

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....of Fred Roger's flipping off the camera.
King Friday was not pleased.
Give me a minute to change my avatar for a day lol.
That's not kind at all Fred!!
Grew up watching that great man. Good to see he was human.

that thinks this must be photoshopped. It cannot be true. Or more likely someone slipped some brown acid into his mushroom tea. Either way I forgive him.

This is cracking me up nonetheless.

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2/11/70 could be used as filler on a. rerelease of 2/13 & 14/70. They are such great shows, that I would love to see them remastered and put out in complete form in the order that the songs were actually played by the Dead.

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I am too young to have caught Muddy Waters, but he is absolutely my favorite bluesman. I have a tangential story re: Muddy Waters though. My now wife rented an apartment in suburban Chicagoland from blues pianist Barrelhouse Chuck and his wife in the early 2000s. Chuck had cut his chops going to Chicago blues clubs in the late 1960s and 1970s and knew all the players, including Muddy Waters and his band. Once he found out my love of blues, he showed me his collection and told me stories, including his favorite, which goes like this:

Muddy is opening for Clapton on the 1979 tour and Chuck has a backstage pass at the Chicago Stadium show. He goes to Muddy's room and Muddy and the band (plus Muddy's bluesman friends) all greet Chuck warmly-- hugs all around, chatting him up, beers offered. Rolling out the carpet for Chuck. The way Chuck told it, he breaks away for a minute and up walks a baffled Clapton, who asks him, "Who are you? These guys are treating you like their long lost brother." Chuck just shrugged and introduced himself, then a still baffled Clapton walked away.

Chuck was a great guy. We took a chance and asked him to play our wedding in 2006 and he agreed for a ridiculously low payment for a player of his stature. He was a national touring act and played the European blues festivals, was cutting records with Kim Wilson of the Fabulous T-birds-- definitely not playing weddings anymore. But he put a killer blues band together for our wedding and even got Muddy Waters' son, Mud Morganfield, to sing for it! Family and friends still talk about that wedding.

By the way, still loving Disc 3 of this release.

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It would be nice if they would put out the early shows from 2/13 and 2/14 1970. They're out there and they're pretty good.

Because of all the "guest artists", getting 2/11/70 out might be difficult, legally speaking. But that would be nice also......

Back to whatever it was that I was doing. Oh yeah, 2/27/69.............

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‘In the court of the crimson king’ King Crimson
RIP Ian McDonald
‘Black ships ate the sky’ Current 93
‘Strange adventures on planet earth’ Commander Cody
The inner photo of them in front of the Wall of Sound is good.
‘Live a Longlaville 27/10/1974’ Gong
I like the liner notes ‘when it came to squirrelling away recordings for future enjoyment, enlightenment or even possible enrichment, Gong were not the Grateful Dead’.
‘Further adventures Live 2016’ The Orb.

One day I’m sure I’ll be able to comment on DaP #41 but not yet. The last update from UPS from 7th Feb has it still in the US. It’s only two weeks after the official release date so it isn’t overdue yet.

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Colin - that's sad news about Ian McDonald. In The Court of the Crimson King still sounds astonishing - my favourite King Crimson album. This was the band that Jimi Hendrix declared to be the best band in the world, I think.

In fact, the multifarious versions of King Crimson are the bands I listen to most outside The Dead. I only really got into them about 3 years ago, when I was lucky enough to see the three drummer line up in London.

Only this week, I got the Larks Tongues in Aspic Box. I had been put off by reports of the live concerts having a poor sound - but they are nowhere near as bad as I was expecting - and the improvisations are incredible. I just listened to the first part of Hull 11/10/72 before logging on here, as it goes.

That Gong cd, "Live at Longlaville 10/27/74" is a great one, too.

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McDonald and Giles album

lame cover art, but a good listen

RIP indeed, Mr McDonald

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got my email from third man records saying the Bob Weir tie-dyed vinyl is on the way! Also the cd version and a 45 from Pokey LaFarge,,,, Central Time. (if you haven't heard it check out the live boob tube cut), great lyrics and great sound)

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