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    You can listen to Grateful Dead records over and over again and never understand the attraction they have for certain people until you attend one of their concerts. Sometime during the Dead's usual five-hour set, it will all click: Jerry Garcia's Indian bead string of notes on the guitar, the ozone ooze of the vocal harmonies, the shifting, shuffling rhythm of bassist Phil Lesh and drummer Bill Kreutzmann, and the distant echo of the oldest of American folk music. - Columbia Flier

    "Certain people" will know that we're coming in hot with one that's got all these things and more, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 41: BALTIMORE CIVIC CENTER, BALTIMORE, MARYLAND, 5/26/77. Yes, there's still plenty of spectacular May '77 to go around. Nearly chosen for Dave's Picks Vol. 1, 5/26/77 delivers three-fold. There's one count for the energy - all the precision of the Spring tour conjuring up the raw power of the Fall tour that was to come. There's another for the setlist which featured beloved songs from WORKINGMAN'S DEAD and soon-to-be favorites from the freshly recorded TERRAPIN STATION. And a third for its element of surprise (or shall we say surprises) from an astonishingly peak 15-minute "Sugaree" to new delights ("Sunrise," "Passenger," "Jack-A-Roe') to a rare first-set finale of "Bertha" to the second set's "Terrapin>Estimated>Eyes," traveling leaps and bounds towards the improvisational journey that is a nearly 17-minute "Not Fade Away." 

    Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 41: BALTIMORE CIVIC CENTER, BALTIMORE, MARYLAND, 5/26/77 was recorded by Betty Cantor-Jackson and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. Grab a copy while you can.

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  • icecrmcnkd
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    Love Pink Floyd

    My favorite band up until I attended my first Dead show.

    Animals is my favorite album but the first CD I ever bought was Saucerful of Secrets in 1987.

    Saw the trio in 87 and twice in 94, second night was complete DSOTM for Set2, same setlist as on the Pulse video.
    Saw Waters 4 times, 2007,10,12,17.

  • alvarhanso
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    Thanks, Dave!

    That's sort of what I was thinking would be a fairly typical response to what does seem to be a much more mainstream direction. Which is also why Echoes being the direct antecedent to Dark Side is so interesting, since one is an extremely exploratory song, the other an album of musical and lyrical coherence, but still retains aspects of Echoes. Also, quite funny how a lot of Floyd fans in the decades since are largely fans of DSOTM-The Wall, maybe even Division Bell, and quite a lot seem to passionately hate the more adventurous stuff. But then, maybe not so funny at all, since Deadhead camps exist where the Era Wars are real and ugly.

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    Pre - post Dark Side Floyd

    I didn't see Pink Floyd until 1975, when they played a large outdoor festival at Knebworth. But I started buying their
    albums in 1972. The first one I got was the budget compilation " Relics" followed by "Meddle" and then "Umagumma". I loved these albums at the time, and they sat alongside albums of what has since become known as "space rock" - Hawkwind, Gong, Faust - the amazing Wolf City" by Amon Duul 2.

    My brother got Dark Side of the Moon almost as soon as it was available, and.....it was clearly a great album, but it didn't actually have the qualities I liked most about their earlier albums. It seemed like they had gone mainstream, in a way. Before Dark Side, they were very much a "head" band, and were seen, as I remember it, being quite avant- garde. Great spaced out epics like "Saucerful of Secrets" "Set The Controls For The Heart of The Sun" and Echoes". With Dark Side they seemed to become more of a straights band, singing about the grimness of modern life.

    They were nowhere near as much fun live as Hawkwind in the mid 70's. I can remember seeing Floyd live in 1977, in a huge air hangar - this was shortly after "Animals" had come out. Everybody was squatting awkwardly on the concrete for hours on end, and when the Floyd finally fired up, someone stood up. The bloke squatting next to me angrily shouted at them to sit down-and then turned to me and said "The Floyd deserve to be listened to." This was why punk happened.

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    Hey Nappy, PF question for ya

    Since you mention seeing them on the AHM and Meddle tours, and thus being quite familiar with Floyd before they hit that mainstream success with DSOTM, I wonder if you recall what your initial impressions of DSOTM were. Gilmour in Classic Albums famously says he wishes he had the experience of being a music fan in 1973 hearing the album for the first time, since they had played most of the album for a year before it came out, then recording and re-recording them, then mixing, he feels he missed out. Especially interested in your take (and anyone else of that awesome era who remembers Floyd pre-DSOTM) on that evolution following Saucerful, AHM, Meddle, and Obscured.

    I have a decent collection of Floyd liberated boots from my days downloading from dimeadozen and Trader's Den, etc., pretty sure Hollywood Bowl was in there. I tried to get as many versions of Echoes as I could find. Loved that they brought it back for Wish You Were Here tour, plus Raving and Drooling and You Gotta Be Crazy, the pre-Animals Sheep and Dogs.

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    DSOTM @ The Hollywood Bowl...

    I really wanted to go this show but...
    1) I was living off the road in between San Luis Obispo & Morro Bay working for the Cal Forestry
    2) I was a bit put off by the "commercial success" that allowed the band to play the Bowl (stupid, I know)...I had seen
    the previous two tours, Atom Heart Mother & Echoes at the much smaller Santa Monica Civic Auditorium
    3) Because of work I had to make a decision of seeing the PF gig or seeing GD do two nights at
    the Hollywood Palladium two weeks prior to the PF Bowl gig...a no brainer...

  • Mr. Ones
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    Pink Floyd Crackers

    This a a 2-cd set of Hollywood Bowl 9/22/72
    Dark Side-Disc1
    Careful, Echoes, Saucerful, Set The Controls-Disc 2.
    I’ll have to track this down, looks good.
    Listening to Billy Cobham Live Ayajala ‘78
    The Magic Band tour Chicago 3/4/78.
    Getting ready to cue up Dave’s 21-Boston Garden 4/2/73…getting ready in advance of ‘74 show, coming soon(I hope).

    Music is the Best!!

  • billy the kiddd
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    Nappy/ 1969 Northern Calif. Folk Rock Festival

    Nappy, my brother didn't go to that festival, his friends went to it. That trip you took in 1969 to that festival, must have been a blast.

  • nitecat
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    Thanks, Jiminmd

    Thanks for the compliment, glad you like the sound of Seattle.

  • 1stshow70878
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    4/24/70 (and 4/25?) Mammoth Gardens Denver, CO

    Researching my older sister's first (and only maybe) show as a surprise for her. She was 17 and tripping from the story I remember. We called the place Elitch Gardens by the name of the amusement park it was when the music outdoor garden part wasn't used so much anymore. Wasn't very big as I recall. Deadbase list this as two shows but I'm finding reviews of it as one show with a break in the tape at Man's World. Thought it unusual to have an acoustic/elec. set that ends in Drums on the first night and the second night starts with Dark Star?!? I could see it if they got rained out or something. Looks primal to me from the setlist(s). Any lore on this I can tell her? Thanks and cheers
    Edit: I was totally wrong on the location of the venue. Nothing to do with Elitch Gardens at all but a "Fillmore" on Clakson St. that started doing rock concerts in Spring 1970. This was maybe only the second show at that renamed refurbished venue. John Hammond opened and according to a newspaper article (Colo. Spgs. paper?) he was boring. But the reviewer had very high praise for this show. Also appears that there was only one night and it was 4/25/70.

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    Wow..

    Super impressed with the sound you pulled out of the Seattle Center. Listening to it now.

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You can listen to Grateful Dead records over and over again and never understand the attraction they have for certain people until you attend one of their concerts. Sometime during the Dead's usual five-hour set, it will all click: Jerry Garcia's Indian bead string of notes on the guitar, the ozone ooze of the vocal harmonies, the shifting, shuffling rhythm of bassist Phil Lesh and drummer Bill Kreutzmann, and the distant echo of the oldest of American folk music. - Columbia Flier

"Certain people" will know that we're coming in hot with one that's got all these things and more, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 41: BALTIMORE CIVIC CENTER, BALTIMORE, MARYLAND, 5/26/77. Yes, there's still plenty of spectacular May '77 to go around. Nearly chosen for Dave's Picks Vol. 1, 5/26/77 delivers three-fold. There's one count for the energy - all the precision of the Spring tour conjuring up the raw power of the Fall tour that was to come. There's another for the setlist which featured beloved songs from WORKINGMAN'S DEAD and soon-to-be favorites from the freshly recorded TERRAPIN STATION. And a third for its element of surprise (or shall we say surprises) from an astonishingly peak 15-minute "Sugaree" to new delights ("Sunrise," "Passenger," "Jack-A-Roe') to a rare first-set finale of "Bertha" to the second set's "Terrapin>Estimated>Eyes," traveling leaps and bounds towards the improvisational journey that is a nearly 17-minute "Not Fade Away." 

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 41: BALTIMORE CIVIC CENTER, BALTIMORE, MARYLAND, 5/26/77 was recorded by Betty Cantor-Jackson and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. Grab a copy while you can.

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....I'm going with some Doors to start. Box set that came out in 1997. LA Woman y'all.
Chris Collingsworth is annoying imo. I know who he's rooting for.

....I had 10.19.72 in my hand before dipping into Ray, Jim, John and Robby. Weird.
Second half music.
Edit. Nice catch by Chase. Dayum.

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10-19-72 playing now, on Greatest Story
10-18-72 earlier today
10-30-73 last night

Love this Box.

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....first set starts out with a Promised Land, Tennessee Jed and a Jack Straw. Who would complain about that trifecta? Hint. No one.
Hitting play now.
Edit. At the 2 second mark of Jed, someone squealed. Hell yeah.

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Lately I've been going back in time somewhat. Nothing wrong with that, of course.

Slumberin' on the Cumberland - John Hartford, Pat Burton & Benny Martin (1979)
When the clock strikes 12 - Slo Leak (1999)
Texas rock for country rollers - Sir Doug & the Texas Tornados (1976)
Casting pearls - Mill Valley Bunch (1972)
Live at Mexicali Blues Cafe, Teaneck, NJ April 7, 2007 - Avalon Allstars
(Ray White, Bobby Vega, Barry Sless, John Molo, Mookie Segal. Download from DigitalSoundboard.net)

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Wow, the Grateful Dead sure played some fantastic shows on Valentine's Day: 2/14/68 & 2/14/70 are as good as it gets. Happy Valentine's Day everyone.

I was curious to see which shows they played on Valentine's Day. Turns out they also played in 1969, 1986, and 1988 on the holiday. (Others? JGB, side bands?) Of course, most know about 1968 and 1970 where the shows have reached essentially mythic status but those other gigs were generally unbeknownst to me. Lovely day all :-)

-edit- I should say, besides '86. I knew about that one as I had a nice sounding tape once upon a time.

-edit 2- Enjoying DaP 21 (4-2-73) currently, which sort of has a Valentine's inspired cover art.

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HendrixFreak mentioned the 2007 Avalon release of the Bear’s recording of the Flying Burritos - an absolute fantastic release, with pretty well impeccable sound. A great band well ahead of it’s time. I changed my avatar to show me skulking around Chris Hillman, after a club date in town with his musical partner Herb Pedersen (a criminally under-appreciated guitarist, who did duty from the Dillards to Old And In The Gray). Nice guys, both, and great musicians, and this is a collection worthy of finding on CD. Ahead of their time, indeed.

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TM, actually I was thinking after hearing the Burrito Bros dbl-disc that, while the sound is pretty darn good, it lacked a degree of clarity I typically associate with Owlsley's recordings. But everything is there -- bass, drums, guitars, pedal steel, vocals. It made me wonder whether the GD shows 4-6 April '69 are of similar quality, which certainly is good enough for me to plunk down money for them.

Hmm, guess I'll have to spin that Hot Burrito again.

HF - There is an interesting take on the April 4-6 shows by the Dead at the Avalon, on a blog called Lost Live Dead dot blogspot dot com
Not only were the Dead packing a powerful Pigpen showcase, some thought is given that Jerry heard Sneeky Pete doing his ‘thang on the pedal steel, and it reinvigorated his desire to master the instrument.
Regardless, I agree with you 100% that the three shows would make a nice neat little release!
Is there a Dr Lemieux in the house?

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I’m sure there’s a forum page that references these but I just listened to Jerry’s contributions to the Zabriskie Point Soundtrack. I can't believe I'd missed them before. (Jerry Garcia - Love Scene and 4 Outtake Improvisations)

Wow. Powerfully simple playing. Like he was sitting right next to you. As he put it after recording, “…just me and my electric guitar and a little amplifier.”

Stunningly simple improvisational songs, slow, steady, and melodic.

These tracks won’t knock you out of your chair but they will make you want to sit still and listen to them more than once.

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The JGB played an epic show on 2/14/76, and there is a really nice soundboard that circulates.

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TM, I actually wondered about that pedal steel (possible) connection.

Did you mention PIGPEN??? In fact, that is what I noted from the 4-6 April setlists: plenty of my favorite GREASE.

Also note that the Burrito Bros. played Hank Williams' "You Win Again" and I think maybe that's where Jer picked that song up... I think in the early days, Jer is said to have always gotten to the gigs early.

That Byrds >> Burritos sound may well have inspired the Jer transition to the WD-type country, in contrast to Bobby's cowboy songs, per se.

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PF's stage show by '94 was way way over choreographed...little room for improvisation...at a complete show dress rehearsal they did at an empty hangar at the closed Norton Air Force base in San Berdoo I found a sheet of paper on the ground that was a list of instructions to one of the spot light operators....it was completely written out...red beams at 5:43 of so and so song, green and blue at 7:31 etc...blew me away...I was working the weekend for a caterer I knew...the first night was a very VIP invited crowd....the second night, no crowd just us working folk and we were treated to a complete show as the night before...in addition to the stage sound system they had their remote stacks out on the tarmac in front of the hangar...mas cool

HF - The more I see those set lists for that 3 night stand at the Avalon, the more I would love to see it’s official release. A seldom-played song was Jerry drumming up the pathos with a world weary voice on (I Know) It’s A Sin. Just great stuff! What shows to see, too: prime Burritos as an appetizer, and really greasy Pigpen for the entree!
All for probably $5 at the door, which barely buys you a beer now!

Fun fact: Something in the musical air in April, 1969. Less than two weeks later, at Winterland, Bill Graham had the “coming out” party for The Band!

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....I'm boring lol.
Hi Mike! 👋
Figured I'd jump on the showing my face trend. I've done it before, but not with my valentine. 💘 She keeps me on an even keel. Say hi to my dead.net friends Cheryl! 👋
She says Hello and loves you peeps too.
Could be worse influences she says. Ha.
Edit. Is there something in my teeth?
Nope. That was my phone screen. Disregard.
adedhed68 has a tabby cat. The best cats. Followed closely by black cats.
Second edit. Tons of bands announcing tours. Grate newz!!!

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Once again this site has cost me money. All this talk about the Flying Burritos and the Stanley recording, made me check. And, no, I didn't have it.

Luckly, I found a copy on Discogs for 5 bucks,,,, what the hell!

U's guys and talk about shit I don't have....... keepin' up with the jones' is killing me, they ought to hang the man that said the best thing in life are for free!

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Got my "shipped" notice about Joni Archive 2. It's mail innovations, should be here by Easter!

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If you don’t have Bear’s Sonic Journals #1, Janis and Big Brother 6-23-68, I highly suggest it.
Bust out the wife’s credit card.

Weird that it isn’t listed on the OSF web page, and yet is the first release in the series.
There’s info about it on Wikipedia.

No sign here. UPS hasn’t updated since 7th Feb. USPS say they are aware of the alternative tracking number but don’t have it. This tracking number ends in FR so is presumably heading to France. Poste France doesn’t have tracking info and Royal Mail say that the number isn’t traceable. I’m still not worried. I’ll start panicking in a week or so.
Looking at Amazon UK I notice the Janis/Big Brother cd is on offer for c. £135 so I think I’ll give it a miss.

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Dennis - Believe me, the best $5 you will ever spend. There is not enough Gram music out there, and it’s an Owsley! HendrixFreak & I are quietly proud right now…

VGuy72 - Great pic of you and the Mrs!

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A little off subject and likely should be in the What's in Your Fridge thread:
Another Covid related crisis in Colorado. Ball can co. has shut out small brewers by raising their minimum order to a million cans per SKU (5 times higher) and not offering storage any more. One brewer said it would take his price from $10 per 6 pack to $13 as he had to buy cans from Nebraska and now pay to store the waiting cans. Ball blames metal prices and a shortage of warehouse space. What's next, sliced bread? Lord, give us this day our daily beer please.
Cheers, or maybe pound 'em if ya got 'em.

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Here in the Netherlands I have not yet received my copy of Dave's 41 and I'm not expecting it any time soon.

It has been shipped with Mail Innovations.

Normally it is given to UPS who then pass it on to USPS who use the alternative tracking number, a US tracking number with the format XX123456789US. USPS then ship it to Europe where the national postal service take it and deliver it.

This time, for the first time, it is different. The alternative tracking number has the format XX123456789CH which is a tracking number for Swiss Post. USPS recognizes the tracking number but have said that the label has been created but the package is not yet in their system. According to UPS the package departed the international carrier facility on February 9. Swiss Post tracking shows that it left LAX on February 9. From this you can see why I'm not expecting it in the Netherlands any time soon.

I suspect that Colin Gould is experiencing a similar situation but his copy is going to the UK via France.

Whatever is going on, it seems that there is a problem getting European packages across the pond.

She could change her mind.

Just like I just did -- listened again to the live Flying Burrito Bros' Owsley tape last night and, indeed, That Mike is correct. It is a top- notch recording, especially for an early '69 field recording at the Avalon. Dennis you got a great deal for $5. I paid $20 with shipping and am very glad I did.

I can confirm that that '68 Janis tape by Owsley is phenomenal!

And yes, Dennis, it is very costly to read this forum. I don't need to keep up with anyone, but my musical curiosity knows few boundaries and thus my wallet is frequently getting plundered.

My DaP #40 came via Switzerland, but that was very fast. I’ve got the latest 5 releases from the Another Timbre label to play so that should keep me occupied.

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Available on CD at Amazon for not super outrageous, but still pretty high.
But it’s also available on their streaming.

Also saw GD 3-1-69 vinyl there for $75.22, which is only $0.22 more than I paid at a local brick and mortar on release day.

Happy Will I contacted USPS yesterday and they are unable to provide me with any information as they state that is a low cost postage option that has been used, they have no idea where any of the international orders are.
They did provide this UK telephone number to contact UPS on 44 207 9490190, I am not going to worry about it for at least another week, hopefully it will have left the USA by then at least.

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I ordered 3 subscription copies - one for myself, one for a friend and one as a spare since 0ne of my DaP40s went missing and I didn’t want to miss out again. The two copies I ordered in one go came last week in a signed for package. The spare (which I intend to give away to a friend rather than sell on eBay) I ordered separately has not arrived.

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DaP #41 has just dropped through my letterbox.
It’s done better than two items sent to my wife by a friend in Indiana. They were sent in early December and have never arrived.
Not as well as an item from Australia that arrived in 10 days and was traceable the whole way with a comparable postage charge.
Going out shortly but will give it a listen soon.

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Mine came through letterbox in Southern UK today.
Came via France - no doubt slowed down by Brexit!!!

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Why, when I import my Dave's Picks into i-tunes or my HDD I can never get three "album" titles that are the same. Always need post import editing. Who is out there taking the p*** 😂😎

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Why did it t sell out so quickly? a scam? I was caught napping and am pissed at myself and at the scalpers on eBay.

Shame about missing out DaP 1 in vinyl. I knew they'd go fast since the cd version is up to like 600 bucks!!!!

I laugh when I see the vinyl on ebay claiming "in stock"!!! Not even out yet. Price is crazy.

But have you seen the prices on complete Dave's and Dick's picks? 4k!!

But I did get 2 copies of 3/1/69 vinyl,,,, screwed up in ordering, figure I sit on it for a while and see what happens.

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RIP PJ, and thanks for your gentle good humour, and a nod to the old National Lampoon, for being an often laugh-out-loud read!

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40 years ago today , I was at the Warfield Theatre for another great night with the Good Ole Grateful Dead. The Dead played a great show, a great way to kick off 1982. It turned out to be a great year for Dead shows, with shows at the Greek, Frost,( 10/9 & 10/82 my favorite shows of the year), Ventura( always a blast), Veneta, Oregon, and a year end blow out at the Oakland Auditorium in December. Crazy fun times.

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I see the RSD list is out. 5LP set of Wembley Empire Pool 4/8/72 by GD for those who are interested.

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Not sure if it's been mentioned here, next RSD releases will include 4/8/1972(yes, Thee Grateful Dead...) on 5 LPs.
(never mind...just saw Colin's post...)

Last 5:

Ruby & the Romantics: Greatest Hits
Royalettes: Gonna Take a Miracle
Celtic Frost: Into the Pandemonium
Slayer: South of Heaven
Brenda Lee: By Request

Did you get charged the same fees as before, or did going through Switzerland and France first not result in fees?

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No charge for Dave's 41
However still battling with UPS to get refund for St Louis box set.
Latest update - must wait 30 days after providing full bank details
To anyone else not had refund you have to keep hassling them
I'll let you know when i finally get money

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5466 just arrived in Scotland. Came via France with no charges. Happy daze. Need to save my pennies now for the RSD Dead & Jerry vinyl releases.

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Received my copy on Tuesday, additional tax EUR 4,18 and handling fee EUR 6,00.

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Blues Project - Blues Project LP
Gov't Mule - Red Rocks 09/14/18 4-CD
Neil Young - Barn LP
Pearl Jam - New York 3/16/92 2-CD
Rolling Stones - Cuba 3/25/16 2-CD

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