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    Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

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  • JimInMD
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    More on GD/Amps/US Navy

    I was close... if you google it you will get an answer pretty quick. Here is a quick quote from my first google land.

    Rosie McGee was cracking up at her desk when Dennis "Wiz" Leonard walked in from lunch.

    "What's the story?" Wiz asked McGee, then a receptionist and bookkeeper at Alembic, a California-based custom electric guitar, bass, and pre-amp company where Wiz worked as an audio engineer.

    "Well, the Department of Defense just called me," she told him. "They were asking if we could defer the purchase of our next four 3500s, so they could get four."

    Those amps were in high demand at Alembic. The 3500s, in particular, would be used in the Wall of Sound's vocal array tweeters, drum tweeters, and for Jerry Garcia's guitars. But was it just Alembic buying them up? A rumor was going around—a "urban myth," Wiz told me—that the US military was using Mac 3500s for sonar, specifically to listen for Soviet submarines.

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    Isn't the goal here to be lighthearted? I try my best to not let the craziness of the world/media not get to me here? Isn't the goal here to be a kind prankster? They ask, "Are you kind?" Most of the flamers I look like as children, either actual age or not. Many are so deep in social media and issues that result thereof, they cannot see what it is doing to them. They are being handled, manipulated, and unwittingly abused by the profiteers. I try to stay away.

    Jim, had no idea of the McIntosh amp issues. Thanks for that piece of info. As much as I love the music, it is just how they were. So real and fun which someone wrote, "creating their own iconography." The richness of their traditions and internal musical dialog that we love is an unending source of comfort as they lived it everyday for 30 years. I wish I had a shot at hearing even 50% of their music, but as I have written before, my OCD makes me wear out a great jam over and over instead of looking for the next one. Need to work on that for sure.

    So Jim and Oro and many others, thanks for passing the test.

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    You are kind soul.. I appreciate all you provide here. Same goes to Oro. I think it would take a face to face to catch me up on all the technology (old or new) that the two of you bring for me to truly understand. As for old.. and I am sure you both know.. in either late 73 or early 74 (I think 73).. the GD got into a scuffle with DOD over equipment they were ordering that was desperately needed for national security. Apparently, the Macintosh amps they were buying in unprecedented numbers were needed both in general and more specifically by special, top secret subs that needed the clean sound and amplification to either detect enemy interference or better hear and make stealth the noise they were making. So they called the GD and tried to work out a way to either stall, postpone or barter a purchasing arrangement that would not jeopardize national security.

    I think this is well known, and I apologize in advance for going on memory and surely confusing some of the information listed above as fact. ..but what is written is pretty close, if someone can clarify and correct it would not offend me in the least.

    Hope I didn't write anything that was incorrect or in any way interpreted as insulting or offensive.

    As for chainsaws and sawzaws to clear way for our living room WOS.. what could possibly be more fun.

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    Ah the sounds of my earliest fun dentist. "You dont need no gas!"

    All my stereo stuff is old, always fussy. Running all old Yamaha into JBL (plus svs). Trying to get stuff cleaned and parts replaced. When it is on, it is quite the stereo indeed. I have an old yamaha eq that I hooked up when Dave's first show was released. Goes into Pre amp, then to a yamaha mx-830. The MX-830 is powering 4 jbl g300's and 2 jbl LX 600's. Running 6 speakers means the amp is running at 550 watts at 2 ohms. It cooks. The speakers all have same tweeters and mid ranges. The 300s run 8" woofers and the 600s have 10 inch woofers. It is old but as you say "in budget." Smile.

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    Then the svs has a 550 watt continous, 850 watt peak sledge. The svs I picked up a few years back for $399. I had to have a sub with an internal crossover. So out of preamp to svs (rca cables), then back into the preamp, then to amp. Having old yamaha means older connection points. Modern amps control the crossover themself and pump sub out already crossed over. I happen to run my internal sub amp at a cutoff of 82 hz. George Lucas uses 80 hz crossover in his THX sound systems. So I am slightly above that. I did some sampling of the room using the preamp features.

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    Do you have any '74 Dijon?

    Neanderthal's use chain saws.. a sophisticated audiophile attacks their living rooms delicately with a sawzaw.

    I'm totally jealous.. I am blasting with my 20 year old Denon, similar age speakers with no intents on upgrading anytime soon. Budgets be budgets..

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    Can you imagine writing the real equipment book? With the constant upgrading of the system, that book would be multiple enormous volumes. Hope the Meyers have logged a lot of their research.

    No 18's here. Of course not needed.

    Back last year, Oro, you asked if I was running multiple subs. I am not. I have a 12" SVS Systems sub with built in Sledge D amp. It is like the rabbit, it is a thumper. Goes down to 13 or 15hz, so below the 20hz of human hearing. That is, if all memories about frequency response are still good. Starting to get the old enough to question my own thoughts at times.

    I am still hoping for the day when we can listen to WoS through a system that takes us to the "Fare the Well" P.A.. Would have to be software based, but I look at it like 4K upcoding an HDTV signal.

    Wow, FTW PA is now 7 years ago. Bet the Meyers' have gone way beyond that. I almost applied for a job at Meyer 7 years ago. Was in my career field. POTHead.

    That 2015 system had multiple flying 18's. It also had a load balancing system. This was done by having 2 systems, intake and outake. That is, they had 100 microphones throughout the stadium to push into the analytics software. Of course, the output systems was not connected except thru analytics, to the input system to avoid feedback. Brilliant. The analytic input system could then be used to balance the PA by section of the of the stadium.

    Sorry for interruption but I wanted find the article on pro sound web about 2015 FTW PA.

    I did actually find it, but not by searching pro sound web, but by searching internet at large and it found it on the pro sound web site, even though pro sound web could not find it in its own search.

    Let me know, maybe I can send lynk thru PM here, not sure if they cut that off.

    Any way need to do a little work after lunch. I mean a little work.

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    That’s what chain saws are for!

    Gary, I think besides trying to keep up with Garcia, Phil was using that big system on stage to help fill in those near field areas (up front etc) we were discussing, the areas that didn’t get proper coverage from the PA?
    What some refer to as the Phil Zone, though to me that’s was where both his stage sound and the PA sound merged and acoustically coupled.
    But yeah, My spine tingles and can still feel rather than hear those sub frequencies in my DNA. (By sub I mean below the threshold of hearing, not a subwoofer). Those Meyers 18”s in the PA were ridiculous in the right spot, in the right venue etc.
    Plus, it’s the Grateful Fucking Dead so why not go big!

    PS, that Grateful Dead gear book is great, though a little dialed down.

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    I want what Phil's having...

    Home version. 18"'s and 4"'s. If I move some things around, they should fit.

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    thanks for the write-up, input. Need a little time to read again and ponder. Think again we are speaking the same language but as 90% of communication is non verbal, some times the written language let's us down.

    It seems I have the dead's equipment book, need to track that down. Not necessarily for this discussion but just to find it again...

    Should have figured Phil would use Meyer systems. Using 18's onstage, wow!

    Hope all well your way!

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    As of late 82 or early 83 Phil was using 4 Meyers cabinets: (4 -18”, 4 -15”), 2 per cabinet powered by custom PIE amps, until they started not using speakers on stage in 92. (Which I didn’t like).

    Not sure I get all what your saying? I agree that Soundboards do not sound natural for many reasons.
    Perhaps your referring to the phenomena of Microphones not having frequency response to accurately record bass waves combing sub sonic frequencies at those kind of SPL levels?
    Mic location can also make a big difference and was partly why Dan started the tapers section. Unless you have the right knowledge and equipment chances are a recording made too close will mot sound good.
    Plus you have the physics: the lower the frequency, the longer the sound wave. If your too close you’ll not hear the fully formed bass note etc.
    In fact if your too close much of the PA sound will blow right by you. You’ll also not properly experience stereo imaging. That’s why usually, the sound board or just before it was THE place to be. It was a trade off going up front: yeah you were up close and could see and hear their stage sound, but the PA mix was so above and beyond you that you missed a lot of info. Eventually they added little Meyers boxes, usually sitting on the front of the stage to add some vocals etc for those up close.
    Nothing comes for free! Personally, like Bear, I didn’t like the stereo set up because of this. Unless you were in the right spot, you missed a lot of info, especially if you were sitting on the side!
    This was the main reason Reserved seating sucked: nobody could sit where they wanted so if you were a sound nut like us, you often had to endure less than perfect sound/mixes.

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Got email from amazon about the expanded Shakedown Street. Found this description. This might have been here before.

Following the Dead's early Warner Bros. LP's and their evolution from a San Francisco hippie phenomenon to one of the biggest bands on the planet, these five album masterpieces chronicle the creatively expansive portion of their long, strange, and amazing trip beginning in 1873 when they launchd their own label. Rhino's remastered & expanded editions celebrate the Dead's immortal music with state-of-the-art sonics and a wealth of fresh-from-the-archives bonus rarities.

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Good to hear from ya, we were/are worried.
Hopefully things are as well as can be in da DV crib?

Have to go down to the flatlands today—(first time past the divide in almost 2 years)— so 4/2/89 will cover half the trip! I’ll try and recall what little I can and report back tonight or tomorrow.

DENNIS: Nice get up, every girl crazy bout that sharp dressed man!
Yer only as old as the girl ya feel…
But “ I can tell your future….” except, what exactly is that in your hand?

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is a fine piece of Hoss glass. This marvelous milk pink 18" tall beaker bong was bought direct from Hoss. They have a blowout page on their site. Great deals for thing that have slight defect. That one has a minor scratch in the name label. Got it for 60 bucks!!

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Thanks for checking OB.

We are moving in the right direction out here. Hopefully we can put this behind us soon.
Have not cued up BP.

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The go to campground for Alpine Valley Shows.

(just had to fit that one in)

Or Bolo might not give us another chance.

So.. senor Bolo.. could we perhaps pick a new show and have a do-over? We cannot promise not to cheat, but we can at least pretend to try harder.

How about it...?

Or was it the fact that we used the word Bong that silenced the thread.. in my defense, Richard Bong was a WWII hero, perhaps the most decorated US combat flier. So what if he sparked up before each mission.. :D

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Who has a pick out there today?

The two shows from the Igloo from Download Series #9 are highly recommended. Great April 89 shows.

Looking back, seems like a lifetime ago.
I miss those days.

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I thought so, but couldn’t be sure that it wasn’t some kinda feminine enjoyment product ; )

89 Burg shows. Quite the blur DV? I remember I went with Mr Bellman, lead guitar for the Wild Knights, perhaps the best Dead band ya never heard of. I had just started a new job and really needed the bread after not working all fall and still paying for the fall 88 Florida shows/trip etc, so had zero time off.
So had to pull the old get up, find a quiet pay phone and call in well to work routine, “cough, cough, sorry Louie, not feeling to well” LOL.
Yeah, I liked working there and needed the job at the time, but boy I missed some good shows that year because of it.
I’m pretty sure it was GA on the floor? I think we were up sorta up close on the Phil side, but I’m not sure?
Remember something about the Blow Away, but not much specific about the shows?
Remember we liked the shows and felt like the band were continuing their forward momentum that would peak by the next spring, but didn’t think they were mind blowing? I think I recall liking the second show better? I’ll have to give that one another listen. Started to but lost my wallet on my trek to the flatlands Tuesday, so had to abort tunes yesterday.

Been digging 41 lately but definitely up for something else? How’s bout 4/14/82? Not sure if it’s any good, but I almost went to it and have always wondered?

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Absolutely, let's do it. Another Lost in space year for releases with a few past exceptions.

Hey Oroborous, at least you can remember parts of your time at these shows. Yes, the 4/3/89 show is a good one as well. Hope you found your wallet.

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I ment 4/14/82 Glens Falls. Yep, wanna try and hit some 82 this year.
Anyone have any good suggestions I’ll write em down and work one in now and again.
NOTE: already checked out the awesome Greeks!

No wallet, major stress/hassle…long story, I’m a idiot!
I thought I’d learned not to set things atop of the car when I was seventeen and drove off with my guitar on top!

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I love that show. Especially the recording with the 'Hey, don't F'in touch my levels' at the beginning.

Back to your regularly scheduled program, already in progress... :-)

4/14/82, preferred sources? I'll tune in...

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Okay, 4/14/82 works as well, Glenn Falls. I think 4/12 is worth a listen at some point as well.

That is a bummer about your wallet OB. Hope it wasn't stuffed with lots of cash.

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is decent, haven’t heard the 11th yet. We’ll have to tag those at some point.

WTJ: 7/28/82 Noted, on the list already, was hoping to check that whole Rocks run at some point.
Thanks for the suggestion!

Actually, $500: my weed and on call payoff money, fuuuuuuuuuddddddggggggggeeeee, only I didn’t say fudge!
Nobody had hit my CC over 24 hours later so perhaps some kind soul will return…but I ain’t holding my breath.
C’est la vie

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Fingers firmly crossed for you. Similar thing happened to me last year and an honest individual returned it to me. Left it on top of the car after paying park admission, forgot I did so and drove off. No, I wasn't at Bong. It was Rocky Arbor in the Dells. Positive vibes flowing your way.

P.S. -edit- And we should hasten to recall what happened to Jim, his brother and the 'lost in the snow' debacle. Thankfully, that ended well. Good luck, OB.

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“How many of you been late to a rock & roll concert before”

Decent show, went with the only SB, but think I might of liked an aud better as the occasional less than perfect moments are accentuated by the formatt. Or maybe just more aware of such after the 77 perfection lol.
Perhaps JGs vocals are a tad out front? Crazy how well you can hear Bobs guitar.

Moments felt somewhat like an 83, not full on rail riding, but a tad more manic than I’m used to from 82. But that’s why we need to go deeper in 82! Still relatively uncharted for this ole dog. Really dug the jammy/spacey PITB parts. Remember the one we saw on 4/8 was pretty sweet. And hey, no Cumberland but it does have a rare electric Deep Elem!

Not exactly sure why I didn’t go? Milton Wilkelberry Steamer the 3rd was going so I had a ride, and I probably could of scraped out the cash for a ticket, which back then in these types of places you could usually score fairly easy, hell, be surprised if it sold out? But we had been planning on the 8 and 9, and in those days I was still pretty young and not loose enough yet to just go for it. I’m guessing the main reason was work. I was a roadie and probably had a hard time getting the Friday for the Crotchfester on the 9th? Not sure, looking back now of course it’s easy to second guess. If I had the John Deere…

Thanks WTJ, I’ll take all the help I can get! Could use a dose of something positive from humanity these days.

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Hey, rockers!!!!

Pick of the day: Fillmore East 2/11/69

Masquerading as “the warm-up band”, the Dead played two short, sharp shots of psychedelia opening for Janis Joplin. Condensed big jams, greasy Pigpen, Mountains Of The Moon (love that song!), Caution. Need I say more? Oh yes, Hey Jude, does that call for an LOL???

However you slice it, a very interesting look at the band just prior to the classic Fillmore West Live/Dead shows of February/March 1969.

Hard to believe it’s been over 24 years since its official release in October 1997. Has it been sitting on your shelf all this time? Fellow rockers, dust it off, cue it up and enjoy!!!

Doc
I put my heart and my soul into my work, and have lost my mind in the process……

Easy to forget that one-but a joy nonetheless. Because they were the nominal support group on this date , they were playing with time constraints, which gives the sets a slightly different context. Whatever- both cds are superb.

Curious that some archival releases are now older than the shows were, when those shows were originally released on cd. It's not quite the case with this one - but One From The Vaults, from 1975, for example, was first released about 30 years ago - when the actual show was only about 18 years old. I guess as time passes people will become more nostalgic about the release of recordings than they do about the actual shows. A bit like how I feel about records that were released, and which I bought, in the 1970s. Eeee, I remember the time...

Another fine 82 show OB. Thanks for the pick.
Really good recording. Fun first set with good variety and a deep elem blues.
The China Rider to open the second set is outstanding! I won't rank it, but it moves me. Nice Playing and later we get a solid Black Peter. Give this one a whirl.

82 has a lot of offer.

Hope that wallet turns up OB.

Okay, on to 2/11/69 from the good doctor

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Made a copy of my friend’s CD’s in the late 90’s, then bought my own copy in the early 2000’s.
I’ll give it a play tonight.

Ordered a ‘new’ vinyl version a few years ago on Amazon. When it showed up it wasn’t factory sealed and had a bunch of scratches. I promptly returned it.

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....I. don't see that date. On relisten.

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You have to listen to it first before you can listen to it on relisten.

Yea, this show is not on the archive for some reason and since relisten leans on the archive.. it's not going to show up there. You can still buy the official release Live at the Fillmore East 2-11-69 at amazon or reach out to a friend.

Edit: They played a good bit of this on Today in GD History. I will be honest; this was always an odd ball release for me. I guess doc is right, they were the warmup band and didn't have complete freedom to set the adventure that awaits the sometimes tripping but always experienced audience. Just a couple sentences that clarifies my show funk on this, and now it makes perfect sense. All is good with the world. (well, almost.. )

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It has been awhile.
First show seemed more ragged than I remember, but the Hey Jude didn’t seem as bad as I remember?
Memory…lol
Always dig a Cryptical, and haven’t heard a Doin that Rag in fo ever.
Made me remember Phil shows and how he broke out so much of that awesome old school material many of us craved, yet never got to see the Dead do. Thanks Phil!
Second show seemed tighter to me, I guess they usually do.
Really dug the Duprees and Mountain’s. I wanna know how JG switches from acoustic to electric in under 60 seconds, those guys couldn’t do anything fast back then lol. But sweet transition anyway from Mnts, to DS!
And a 69 suite..nuff said!
Ok Caution, etc.
Era comparatively, I’d call these decent. Pretty crazy to compare to just a few weeks later, but like Doc said, perhaps the whole Bill G short/multiple show BS?

This got me so primaled up, I hit 2/14/68, a recent acquisition (FINALLY!) thanks to the Real Gone folks!
As great as this show is, it’s interesting to compare to the 69 stuff only a year later.
So the Spanish jam put me in mind of 6/22/83, a personal 83 fav! (the show that is) So hit the great second set. “Maybe ya want a radioactive volcano in yer back yard” into the version of Bucket that made us familiar with that one. We were calling it a Elegant Pride as we didn’t know better!
The 6/22 Spanish Jam version starts a little hazy but builds to some nice spacey/special parts, but the catalyst for my memory thereof is that it was the first one that made me “know” it. Meaning, I probably had heard on some old tapes, but didn’t know what it was until hearing it enough to go, hmmm, what is that, it sounds familiar. Yet another of the cool things that Dead music brings, enlightenment. How many paths to how many other things, people, places, music etc have you been turned on to via the Dead? Moma, moma, many worlds I’ve come…

Anyways, enjoyed the pick, and dipping into a different era. Still kinda burnt I guess, but can’t stick in one era too much currently. Doesn’t matter which era, just need to keep jumping around or else I end up not listening to dead? Weird?
Guess that’s the great part of having thirty years to choose from, there’s always something to dig, cause hey, sometimes you feel like a nut, sometimes yer just nuts! ; )

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Okay, looking at 9/2/79 from Augusta for today. Let me know.

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Buckle in, that is a fun show with unique versions of many songs including a weir'd Minglewood. :-)

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Rollin!

DV, how’s the fam damily doin?

EDIT: Yassss, fun lil show. Cool first, dug the Samson, for whatever reason I prefer post early Samsons?
Cool second set Ramble On, only the sixth I believe since the hiatus. Funny they used to do it almost exclusively in the second set pre hiatus. Less, but unusual placement of LIG. not much of a drums/space, decent Stella, cept think Jer Bear mixed some lyrics up. Wouldn’t have noticed if I wasn’t paying attention lol.
Then not sure what happens in Trucking, after “up to Buffalo” it sounds like Brent says something about paying your tab? Sounds like some inside joke lol. Sucks my computer relisten version doesn’t do FF etc, only skip/replay, or I’d zero in more. Boy they come outta Truckin’ ripping, then the Nobody’s Jam huge tease!
Rockin A&A that literally got the old guy up dancing.
Another fun morning checking out off piste shows!
Anybody up for something completely different mañana? Perhaps some 92 as we’ve hit 70s, 69, 82 but no 90s for a bit?
Perhaps: 3/9/92, 5/25/92, 6/8/92, 6/25/92, something from 3/16-18/92, or if anyone knows of something killer, turn us on! Would love some good 92 suggestions that I can write down and sneak one in now and again, throughout the year?
Besides the obvious other stuff, I’d love to get a little into 82 and 92 a bit, that’s if anyone is interested?
ONWARD!

Think I’m going Dicks 4 for extra credit?

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Hey Oroborous,

We are all back in the saddle again! Back at school and work, but this thing is still ripping through work and school. Thanks for checking, appreciate it.

Loving another September 79 show. Fun first set, Stagger Lee is always welcome. Solid and different Minglewood and Jack a Roe, TMNS.
Just getting to LIG now, looking forward to the rest of the show.

Yes, I am up for some 92, just let me know. I don't hit this year up too much so it would be good to give it a go.

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I had a friend that attended this show and he was floored by set 1.

Enjoy your P.O.T. Day as always... :-)

P.S. Fire hydrants (1st time in a while I've been reCaptcha'd!) Nice.

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Well, that's great to hear. Yep.. sounds about what happened here, everybody had it and it's just starting to burn itself out.

Wow.. a fresh listen revealed many new high's in this show. I started 2/11 a few days ago but didn't finish it until last night. The Dark Star through Caution was fantastic, especially Dark Star and The Eleven. Disc 2 uninterrupted with headphones floating in the tub after a day of skiing. So much to unpack and digest but how about that recording? It says recorded by Bob Mathews, which is a little unusual, no mention of whether it was Multi-Track, but this was not a Dickus Pickus which at least hints at the possibility that this was not a standard two track recording.

Thanks for the great pick, Doc, sorry for my delayed praise. Gotta road trip for a bit so unless I have the picks on my portable device, I will going rogue..

As you were guys and (gals?).. keep on keeping on.

6/28/92 it is!
Just need to hit the treadmill and watch some cabin masters, then I’m on it!

DV & Jim, great news!

EDIT: Nice Show! Really enjoyed that.
Good set list, nicely played for the most part, decent sound, decent energy, definitely a nice surprise and another off piste find! Nice era change up too.
Thanks WTJ!

DBL EDIT: 6/29/92 extra credit

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Yes, thanks Jim. 6/28/92. Alright, will get it going soon. Thanks guys.

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I always like to check out new shows, so thanks for the pick. I haven't been able to connect with 92 yet. The tempo seems slowed down so much and lacks that fire in the belly you hear from other years, not all. Since I did not see any shows in 92, I certainly cannot comment on why that is.
Anyway, still found enjoyment with the opening Help Slip Franklins and Wang Dang Doodle. New Speedway Boogie!

Going to go back and check out the 4/12/82 show from Nassau OB mentioned last week.

Let me know what you all are thinking.

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I already hit that at some point, decent show, think you’ll like it.
I’m probably going to read today, but maybe I’ll hit the previous night 4/11/82?

EDIT: recaptcha tractors, think I saw Jim on the way back machine in one of the pictures?

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1. If you are underwhelmed with 6-28-92, you are going to be even more disappointed with the next nights show which I understand from show reviews and my own listening to be a bit of a letdown.

2. I had some filler from 5-19-92 (the opening few numbers CR+S, Rooster and Althea) on one of my tapes and my ears perked up. It was surprisingly hot 'for '92', as the saying generally goes.

Take 'er easy and enjoy your listening. Past couple days I've been able to enjoy Download Series 12-10-73, 1-22-78 (DaP 23), 8-25-72 (DaP 24), and I've been embarking a bit on DaP 25 (11-6-77) a show that gets better and better for me with repeated listens. Even the oddball Scar>Fire. :-)

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Those are all great shows WTJ and in the rotation quite often for me. Dave's #25 in particular is one of my favorites.

4/11/82 you say OB. I will for sure check it out.

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I didn’t go to Deer Creek, went to Soldier Field 6-25,26-92 and thought they were great (James Cotton on harmonica for a song or two, Steve Miller on stage for a few songs).

I had 6-28-92 on cassette in the 90’s and wasn’t that impressed, but may have been biased since I was at the previous shows. I’ll revisit it eventually but not tonight since 10-17-72 is playing (worked my way through the STL Box over the past 2 weeks or so and this is the last show).

I also had 5-31-92 on cassette and liked that show.
I was at 3-23,24-92 (Bruce’s last as a member) and those are pretty good too for the most part (few stinkers), but I especially liked Music Never Stopped (good light show to go along with it).

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Simply because there's not much going on until the next release. Why not?

Or are you already in Eastern Europe somewhere giving little gel capsules to unsuspecting tools? #DosePutin

Edit: Perhaps we need to pause the picks. That will get Bolo's attention. Or say his name three times, that usually works.

One Second Thought: Tomorrow's pic - 2/18/71? I think this might be a repeat too.. but rules are for the straight folks. Why 2/18/71? A question best left unanswered.

Bolo bolo..

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That Set I is a doozy!! Just stacked with goodies. Tom Thumbs! To Lay Me Down! New Speedway > Smokestack to end the set?? Heck ya, would never have believed that had happened. Thought Set II started out a little wobbly on my first run through, will need to revisit. Nowadays Way to Go may be the only song I routinely skip. I'm always a fan of D>S from the later years and the post-space sequence is nice. Was really surprised how laid back the Around and Around was - I liked the arrangement. Fun pick, and one way outside my usual listening zone. '92 was only year I didn't see a show from '87 to '95. Had tickets to the 20th Anniversary at Veneta.

With you Jim, definitely would like another shot at the gold ring. How about it, Bolo?

I had a big post all teed up last week and for some reason the ptb thought i was trying to include a linque or some such and no matter how i reconfigured and rewrote it I couldn't get it past the censors. anyhow. a couple thoughts about the first contest. in a way more straight forward than I expected but still some deeply obscure history as befits a Bolo contest. didn't come close to peeling the layers of the onion off on that one. one funny dead end for me was that the Woody Allen film "Bananas" was released on 4/28/71, the second to last night of the famous final Fillmore East run when Tom Constanten sat in. I'm like, how can that not be it, that show or that run? but I couldn't make anything else work and of course there was a reason because that wasn't the answer. also chased a wild goose with "46" - that's the approximate length of that epic Playing from Hec Edmumdson, and at the time I think 5/17/74 Vancouver was a POTD. Oh and my first guess was the Melkweg shows in Oct. '81. I thought my reasoning was pretty good for those. Good but wrong.

Speaking of Vancouver 5/17 I was spinning that in the car past 2 days. Stars were aligned on the way home yesterday with that Playing - Phil was simply crushing it. Felt real good. That PNW box is a gem.

The 6/28 New Speedway Boogie caught my attention in part because I had been listening to the 12/20 and 12/21/69 Fillmore shows that are a part of DaP6. Had totally forgotten that those shows were the breakout for New Speedway. Really had fun with that release and right after that the Strider Brown special DaP 30 Fillmore 1/2 and 1/3/70. And right there with you WTJ as 11/6/77 and 1/22/78 Eugene also were in the rotation last several weeks. And have really enjoyed DaP 41- right in the sweet spot that one.

DV - glad you and yours got past the plague. Big sigh of relief.

Almost to the weekend. Have fun everyone. Be well. Be safe. Onward!!

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Good to hear from you Bluecrow, thanks man. Crazy time,.......

Anybody up for 3/24/73 at the Spectrum, Dave's #32?

As good as November 73 is, I think the March shows through Boston Garden show might be as good. Can't imagine what it would have been like to see this tour.

There are definitely a few more shows from this Spring tour Dave could put out.

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Give me a day or two to come up with something particularly perplexing and nefarious, just the way y'all like it.

Yeah, BlueCrow's mind meanderings to come up with Melkweg were WAY out there. I'll have what he's having!

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Glad to join you later today DV with Dave's 32. I had that in the need-to-spin pile last month but never did it right.

For me there are great shows throughout '73 on all of the tours. Couldn't choose just one. In that first late winter tour what circulates from 2/19 International Amphitheatre, Chicago, has long been a favorite sequence. I'm assuming several reels are missing from the vault. This is sort of like the 2/2/70 Fox Theatre was for me before DaP6 was released. Back in the day no chance we would ever hear the whole show. Hoping the same sort of returned reel miracle happens with 2/19.

Bolo - thanks for giving us another puzzler. Perplexing and nefarious sounds just exactly perfect.

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By request, so don't blame me.

At the risk of becoming universally hated, here's the clue for Today:

Miami greyhound squid

PM your guess to me and show your reasoning. 3 guesses allowed per screen name, no new screen names.

Winner will receive some lovely GD schwag from my underwear drawer.

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came across this one today, enjoy

Hope you enjoyed it as much as I did Bluecrow. Some releases get better to me with each listen. This one definitely fits that bill. What a first set, the Race is on, Cumberland, Box of Rain. End the first set with HCS, Me and Bobby McGee, Loser-Playing? Wow. And then the second set, nice China Rider, Big River, Stella Blue. He's Gone, Truckin-nice Jam- Dark Star into Sing me back home and nice closers with Sugar Mag JBG. That is some fantastic stuff. I think I made this statement a couple years ago and I will say it again, #32, #33 and 34 might be the best three show stretch in the series to date. Just my opinion.

Okay, PT Barnum gives us a 71 recommendation. I will get that one going later. Thanks for the pick. Oh and a new Bolo contest.

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Hey rockers!!

Pick of the day: Dream Bowl February 21 1969

Everybody knows of the Dream Bowl show from the following evening, which was released as part of the 30 Trips box set. Thanks to TPTB for making that happen.

But who listens to the previous evening? Slightly shorter but still very fine, yes it’s “standard repertoire” for early 1969 but oh! what a standard. Greasy Pigpen, exploratory Star, The Eleven, and a Dew to cap it off. Does it get any better? Be careful how you answer that!!!

Charlie Miller has blessed us with so much ear candy over the years, let’s try not to take it for granted, listen and give thanks!!

Doc
Who looks outside, dreams; who looks inside, awakes……

Not to be confuzzed with T.D.I.H. :-)

Might as well give equal weight to 2-21-71, 2-21-73, 2-21-82 or 2-21-95 if we're gonna think that way.

Have fun all, whichever route you choose to travel... :-)

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Small World by Jonathan Evison. Ole Johnny is on fire in this book! One of the best I’ve read in a long time.
Also recently read/enjoyed John Babbs Prankster Memoirs, Ken Babbs Who Shot The Water Buffalo and Cronies.
So caught up on some well needed reading, now time to catch up on some Dead!

Concur, would hate to see this turn into This Day In GD History as there’s already a fine site for that elsewhere, BUT…in this case I’m down with 2/21/69 as it does fit well with our unofficial MO of checking out off piste shows rather than just rehashing the same big dogs we’ve all heard a million times. Not that there’s anything wrong with that, just feel our core group is a little more adventurous and tends to like to explore, at least as a group, club, whatever this has turned into lol.
Where the hell is GOGD he’d know! ; )

But 69 sounds fine, have recently hit both shows from 41 again, 2/26/73, some 92, and 5/21/74 from the Heck Edmundson Pavillon since the venue was part of Small World that I just read, so obviously a sign ; )

Bolo stumped me so hard I got a headache lol.