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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

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June 28, 2020 - 9:31pm

#6671

DeadVikes

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Otis/Oroborous

Good to see you back in the loop. Hope all is well. New system is always exciting.
I am willing to give Dave's 31 another try. Haven't listened to it since last year.

Took out Good old Dave's 25, the BINGHAMTON NY 77 show. Some of these shows keep getting better with each listen.
Oroborous, you are a wild man. What a ride!

Be well folks. I have heard rumblings in other pages about big announcements coming. Don't know about that but we do know Dave's 35 will be announced in July. Maybe they will give Oroborous an 85 pick?
June 28, 2020 - 9:27pm

#6672

Vguy72

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6.28.85 Hershey Park....

....another one of my first tapes. Bird Song-> Comes A Time -> Deal. A rare Garcia trifecta to end the first. Music Never Stopped-> Tom Thumbs to open the second. How do you guys keep bringing up my first loves? And why does this band keep following me?
Here's kind of a story. I tripped balls listening to this tape in 1989. That's all I got.
June 28, 2020 - 7:19pm

#6673

wilfredtjones

Joined:
June 4, 2007

Hershey

You know it's on Dave's radar as he has played some of it on 30 Days in past years. Good show and one of my first tapes. Keep the stories coming! :-)
June 28, 2020 - 5:16pm

#6674

Oroborous

Joined:
June 19, 2007

6/28/85

So after basically staying up for 2 days at SPAC, we finally pack it up and hit the road the next day. I believe it was a rainy, gloomy day most of the day. But that didn’t stop our idiot patrol from basically racIng at high speed through the fine but conservative state of Pennsytuckey, where they were one of the last to let go of the 55 mph laws, and back then there usually wasn’t much tolerance. So 2 cars of totally raging nutknicks, with probably enough cargo to keep us detained for decades, thought it’d be a good idea to race at speeds up to 90!, Idiots!.....yes, one car had a radar detector, but in those days smart cops would wait for some nut traveling high speed and click it on when they had ya dead nuts.
Luckily, all was well and it was one more “miracle” as we earnestly pursued our quest for “too much of everything is just enough”, aaaa, never considered back then maybe Bob was being sarcastic? Lol
So we roll on into Chocolate town late and all beat up. I’m guessing we grabbed some kind of drive through, but not sure and as we were hardcore vegetarian then, perhaps we thought we’d grab something there? It’s all such a blur, I do recall the lot we were in had no or little Shakedown action going on. That still wasn’t in full flight anyway, and don’t recall much there, so maybe we drank our supper? I know I scored some Carlsberg Elephant beer, and believe I may have finished it, though that is a tall order even under good conditions so perhaps not. I’m sure I put in dent in it at least! So, that and the last of one z of veggies, though the tricky part was it was mostly just powder and scraps and so no normal produce to properly gage etc, which would turn out to be a tactical error...
So it’s late, we’re tired, but tweaked, perhaps no dinner, and of course it’s horrible out. Dark, rainy, and cold is usually not how you want to do your Dead. Eventually we get in perfect time, slip right in front of the SB and try to make the best of the situation. Well I had a shirt, a black baseball jacket, and the electric Buffalo Hyde, but even still it was damp and cold at first. Eventually, when things started to take hold and we started boogieing, we began to warm up a bit.
Meanwhile, the set list is awesome, but the conditions, which necessitated all the stage and PA speakers being covered in plastic (there was no stage lid) thereby severely effecting the audio. It’s was such a weird show that way, loved the little “stadium” and the nice audiophile stereo set up, with surrounds, great set list, mostly good playing, yes JGs vocals are a little ruff in the first set, but you have to cut some slack as it was terrible, I mean depending on the wind/rain they were getting rained on playing electrical instruments! Weird indeed, but like so many times in adverse conditions our heroes seemed to rise to the challenge. Thus the playing was perhaps more relaxed, steady and together and not forced like the previous night. Really, besides JGs vocal issues in the first, its a top notch show!
The second set really starts to take it higher with stellar versions of Music Never Stopped, Terrapin, Miracle and one of the best Dews I’ve ever seen! I think I saw about 14 or 15 Dews and when I think about Dews I’ve seen, this one is the one I always think of first! Rocking Stones/NFA with a spirited Day Job. I liked Day Job, but by now it was getting a tad old, and was a disappointment for this show considering how high it was at that point. A She Belongs or Baby Blue would of been a perfect Cherry on top, but perhaps that’s being greedy?
Now since the weather was such a factor, we must discuss that and how it influenced this show. The second set starts out with their “signing in the rain” as Bob says, and it’s a good’n! Next they slowly slid into an unusual sounding Tom Thumbs which I had never heard yet, and wasn’t even sure at first what it was, but hey, it was Phil so that’s all I needed to know! Good but perhaps truncated Estimated, followed by an awesome Terrapin. So as the set started to progress, so did the weather until (I think?) around Estimated it really started to clear up and they started pulling the plastic tarps down. It was almost like you could immediately hear it get better after each one was removed. Eventually by about Terrapin, they tarps we’re gone, the moon and stars were out, and Healy started increasing the volume and tweaking the mix. I remember we were goading him to turn it up, and man eventually he sure did!
As the night wore on it began to warm up a bit too. But as you’ve heard this scenario, or been there yourself, many times I didn’t feel quite high enough so what the hell, one more time with the powder veggie crumbles just before drums......hee-hee....you know, “I’m not feeling it?” and then...Dooah!
So the problem with those baseball jackets is they don’t really breath and the electric Buffalo Hyde was thick plastic. We didn’t have all the nice technical outer gear we have now, or at least WE didn’t. I could barely afford the free plastic one from the old mans work.
Well a perfect storm mounted; little or no food, Elephants, veggies etc, no sleep, excess everything and underlying exhaustion, with me starting to overheat due to the above and dancing with that plastic shell on. Things were going unbelievable well, and partly influenced by the very recent passing of my Grandfather, during Dew, things peaked musically, the sound, the night, the stars, emotionally etc etc until I had one of the most powerful musical/emotional/psychedelic peak experiences of my life. Perhaps my all time GD moment, it was that powerful. But what goes up must come down and just like that the radiator blew and that last handful of shroom dust fully kicked in and somewhere in Throwing Stones, right during ashes, ashes all fall down, well.....I say i didn’t really fall down, it was more like an immediate realization that if I don’t sit down rapidly, I’m going down! LOL, so one way or another, depending on who you believe, I end up down in the soft, cool mud until near the end of the song, but I swear just as I tried to get up I knew it wasn’t going to happen, so right on que again I go back down. My friends to this day always bring up my perfectly coreographed “Dance moves” above all else that happened on this tour..35 years later and it’s still “ashes, ashes, Pedro falls down” !
That would of all been well and good except things were very strange and weren’t wearing off, and I was barely functioning. I never would of found the car etc If not for my homies. Honestly all I remember is them pulling into a Wendy’s or something, but I just sat in the car with my face literally stuck to the window and crackled! Zzzzttttt. I really thought I had finally fried some essential circuits and thought this time I really did it. At some point I snapped out enough to find some kids in another car staring at me with a look of concern if not fear. Luckily, the boys finished up and came out and got us outta there. Somewhere near the state line we finally grabbed a motel as we all had had more than enough rain and adversity. Plus the next day was off and the drive short. I remember they propped me up in bed and I just sat and crackled and worried. Eventually I slept and though I felt better the next day, I didn’t feel normal and don’t recall much except when we got to Merriweather and found a good spot just over the creek, right next to the path, in some trees, on the way to the big parking lots to the right of the venue. But now it was nice and I was feeling more normal so not so freaked out. I also remember going to a nearby sorta plaza with an upscale liquor store where I scored my first sixer of EKU 28 ever which was awesome!
So now we’ve moved beyond the insanity of TOGA, the adversity and majesty of Hershey, and ready for perhaps the best overall show of the tour on 6/30/85....

EDIT: Otis, congrats on the stereo. All that matters is if your happy with it. After all the specs and hyperbole etc, no matter how big, small, expensive etc, in the end, that’s all that counts!
June 28, 2020 - 4:14pm

#6675

Thats_Otis

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@ Bob T and Pick for Monday

Nice rec for the TDIGDH 6/28/76 show! I'd never heard that one before, and it is pretty sweet. The "Happiness is Drumming" is certainly a highlight!

I have been out of the loop for a bit - trying to deal with some personal stuff on my end, and I just kind of lost track of things around these parts. I hope to be able to participate more going forward.

To that end, how about a pick for tomorrow, Monday 6/29? I am thinking Dave's 31 - 12/3/79 Uptown. I feel like this pick got a short shrift on the DaP page, but I remember being very happy with it, though I haven't given it a proper listen since it first came out. What do you all think?

One positive thing that I have accomplished since I've been away has been the set up of my first component stereo system. I don't know if it compares to all of your "big boy" systems, but it certainly feels BIG in my little row home! Looking forward to playing it LOUD tomorrow when the wife goes to work.

Peace
June 28, 2020 - 11:41am

#6676

Oroborous

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June 19, 2007

Voodoo senile, slight return. 6/27/85, and why 85 Dead is like

Bode Miller...

First, GOGD, I did not mean to single you out, over generalizations, which become stereotypes, which become truth etc, really bum me out. So it was more of a trigger to that, not you personally. I know you were just repeating this line.
Actually, as I’ve dug in deeper, there are probably a significant number of shows where he often doesn’t sound so good, but to over generalize that “his voice was shot”, as in never more, to me, imho, that completely devalues and discounts all the amazing, great sounding stuff he was still able to do. 87,88,89,90,91anyone? Micro view versus macro perhaps?

SECOND: I must humbly recant my tale of dancin in the rain. As we were diligently experiencing TOGA last night. Too things became apparent. First, perhaps JG was a tad “caffeinated” at the start of both sets. Listening close on a real system, (not the big boy, but the living room system which ain’t no slouch!), he seems a tad to fast and/or their not fully entrained. One could argue not fully so until Women Are?...so probably something to do with him totally skipping the Key Rain Storm, and Jailhouse versus, of Bertha, lol.
Thus, while I wasn’t deceitful, I was not accurate. Sure enough, when Holmes and Watson ripped a spleef and fired up Bertha from SPAC 6/24/84, and bingo, ding, ding, ding, ding! Right venue, wrong year! 😂 Ooops, my apologies to the dear reader...but hey, it’s a fun interesting new tid bit, and it did rain, I think, lol.
While doing this research I was listening just on the iPad and interestingly he doesn’t sound as bad? Also, I’ve been going with the HS matrixes, especially shows where I want to hear those crowd big moments. Generally they’ve been pretty good, but researching, I used a CM transfer and man, definitely a big difference. Perhaps number one being the speed/time of the Miller seemed better and more natural?
Subjective I know, just that it’s interesting how every variable can effect perceptions.
6/27/85: so this beast is still as much of a rocket sled ride as I’ve thought, but it’s perhaps a tad more unpolished then I would of said in the past. But that’s being picky, and you know I prefer danger dead to safe, so as at this moment, Hell in a bucket is scorching, I stick by this show for that, the cool set list, and the fact that eventually, say around Women Are on out, that part of the show stands with its lofty summer 85 neighbors. Probably have to give 6/24& perhaps 6/25? a slight advantage overall, but man I haven’t been to many shows that had the vibe, fun, and overall madness of this puppy.

So why is 85 Dead like Bode Miller? He often was criticized for his erratic style, or lack thereof, his nonconformity, often disregard for the rules, including parting then basically going 80 MPH down an insane pitch, that was usually hosed down to make it more icy, and thus faster! So just like this era of Dead, sometimes he’d DQ, sometimes he’d slack off, sometimes it was ugly, but when he brought it, that mofo brought it!! and when he was able to be one with the force, it was fucking breathtaking! Scary, but breathtaking. No matter what, if he was racing there was an energy, an excitement, that larger than life vibe......that, to me, is 85 Dead.
FINALLY: Ladies and Germs, May I present the Electric Buffalo Hyde! as christened by my degenerate cohort due to my resemblance of the great beast of the prairies back in the day, and this baby used to be so bright people would ask if there were batteries. But Alas, like youth itself it’s faded dramatically, and is old and bartered. It definitely gave it’s all to R&R. So many Dead shows, festivals, camping, parties, you name it! Also, it will be a part of an unfortunate situation at the next night, where I lost my shit in Hershey! So until then....
June 28, 2020 - 11:14am

#6677

bob t

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only time played anniversary show 6/28/76 Chicago Auditorium

If you are too busy to listen to whole show, listen to Happiness is Drumming from set II, if you have never heard or listened to listen you will be pleasantly surprised!!! There is a Charlie Miller soundboard on Internet Archive!!!! bob t
June 27, 2020 - 4:07pm

#6678

The Good Ole G…

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Good Times Great Oldies

Sounds like the ole SPAC '85 show will get some play today.

Always a fun revisit. Vguy & Keithfan that was you guys?! That's funny.

I guess I always thought this was an indoor show because of the balcony stuff and didn't know about the rain storm.

Tell us more.

And just for the record if I happen to say Jerry's voice is shot, what I mean to say is I love Jerry's voice, even though it's a little shot here. ;)

I agree, it always sounds great to me.

Enjoy party people!
June 27, 2020 - 11:21am

#6679

Oroborous

Joined:
June 19, 2007

Not a drop

We were out on the lawn so actually there were many drops, I mean it was already raining hard, and right when he sang that line, biblical!, but it just added to the madness and was one of my favorite concert/rain moments ever! I believe that’s right when folks crashed security on those balcony ramp ways and turned it into a free for all? Yeah, that was the shit, such energy all around, but that rain just took it to another level. Luckily I had my electric buffalo Hyde on! .....it was a psychedelic neon yellow long rain coat with
BS CORP
WORK SAFELY (from pops work) printed on back, and a Dancin skeleton sticker underneath that I added. Still have it! I should take a pic and post...fond it moving last year.
June 27, 2020 - 10:48am

#6680

Oroborous

Joined:
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Summer 85, and why I’m not prepared for class

Deadheadbrewer: yeah, I’m with you, I can’t keep up with these rascals! Pant-pant 😉
Haven’t done Riverbend, Nassau or Dane. Prolly give Nassau a spin this WE. Dane I’ve tried to stay away from cause ya gotta believe their going to give us that one someday! Bastards better! and I’d prefer it on virginal ears!
hey, by the way, how you guys coming on that tunnel under the vault?
So I listen to Riverbend 6/24/85 sort regularly so no biggie there except in the sense of comparing shows. Except It’s cool to go in order to see the subtle changes and how things progress. Like 6/25/85, definitely have felt a ascending arc since the first night in Alpine. Funny thing is I don’t think I’ve heard the second set of this one before? Had a tape of the first all along, but I think it was a tad too crisp so didn’t get as much love as the shows around it. Plus I think maybe I harbored some subliminal resentment for the show because of our decision to skip it to go to Toga early like we did in 84, which was awesome. Obviously if it made us skip a show that close to home, but Doooaahhh. So not sure how it’s the shows fault. LOL, but I think somehow I’ve had some weird thing about this show that has kept me away? Sorry, ramblings of a deranged lunatic!
Anywho, finally gave this bad boy a spin yesterday, though had to do it in 2 sessions as life just keeps buttin’ in like a 3 year old when mom and dad are trying to get down! Man what a show. The only really noticeable hiccup I recall was JG at the start of Jimmy, and Bob missed a vocal, really a great set, better than I remember, though I always liked it, just the tape was lesser then the others...
Second set was hot too, though perhaps they lost just a little near the end? Or maybe that was me as it was late, and by that time on a Friday this ole cowboy is usually not feeling much pain! I recall a couple little blemishes, but so what, you name any show, anyone, and I can find stuff wrong. And sorry, but I’m kinda over hearing about how terrible JGs voice is. Yes, sometimes it’s ruff, but sometimes I think the gravelly age worn voice ADDs to the affect of the songs, which is perhaps what he did best. And frankly, I’ll take the gravel voice singing in tune over a lot of that 1970 stuff we’re between the guitars and the vocals something is ALWAYS out of tune. That’s torturous for a musician.
Now I’m not trying to diss anyone’s favorite Dead etc, just stating an opinion that people perhaps overdo it with the voice comments. My favorite is when people say “I can’t listen to anything after 77”....ok, we’ll that’s cool as it’s your choice and all, but I’d say really you just have made up your mind you don’t want to like anything after that, and you probably haven’t heard enough and with the right kind of ears. Seriously, I challenge anyone to pick a “perfect” “best of “ show and if I have time I will find the cracks!
But that’s missing the point which is ITS ALL GOOD! and every era has something positive that the others don’t have. It’s all ways been yin yang folks, there is no such thing as a perfect show, except in our minds eye, which is quite A ok.
Ok, rant over, I’m obviously biased about my beloved 85!
Which brings us back to TOOOOOOOGGGGAAAAA!! Yo Butch, back in your seat, there’s 50 thousand people waiting for you to get back in your seat! Madness, the whole scene there was just surreal fucking madness, but in a good way.
I’m actually going to try and call my old house/band mates at the time as we all went. 2 I think went to blossom, and Pittsburgh. That one too, like WTF basically could of stopped by on the ride home from Merriweather, idiots! Lol, actually, I’m not sure I could have done another show. I may have caused permanent damage at Hershey, and thank god for that day off that I can’t recall much about, and I did take it a tad easier after, but not much. We ate so many veggies on that run that nobody would believe it. But I know what I came with and what was left after so.....looking back, it’s all kinda scary, we’re lucky we never had any real casualties of any sort. Few close calls, but nothing major, phewwww.
So going to call the lads, and fire up Toga tonight as We have to do a Zoom wedding this afternoon. We were supposed to be out at the Promised land for said wedding and a actual vacation, first since Seattle in ?? 2012!
Think Homer Simpson “oohhhh, Ssstttooooopid Covid”
Speaking of living via the net, was that not a fine show on Shakedown last night! Didn’t have the fire like the night before, but a fine well played outing, thanks so much to Dave and Co. for giving us this nice diversion. It’s getting to b3 a regular weekly thing, and gasp, the Mrs has actually been joining me and digging it! .....as long as I give her a good foot massage (usually during drums). She really digs the trippy graphics and colors which is even funnier as she’s never partaken except booze back in da day, it’s like giving a kid castor oil just getting her to have a beer, lol. So yeah, this Friday thing has been like the “ONE” in our music! Right on! and please keep em coming!
Ok, gotta try and call the guys and reminisce before the wedding. Then.....drum rolls please..........TOOooooGa!

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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

The past cannot be cured...........

Mornin', rockers!!!

Last 5:

2/13/70 early show
2/14/70 early show
Two short, sharp, savory shots of early 1970 Dead. Recommended................

PF Wish You were Here
For long lost friends who've shuffled off this astral plane...........

Commander Cody & His Lost Planet Airmen---Family Dog 1970, official OSF release. Ace recording, I've heard rockabilly is good for what ails ya!

Mingus Ah Um
Needs no explanation.............

Not a note of 71 going on two months now. Been jonesing, but Europe 72 helps ease the pain................

Rock on!!

Doc
Time and memory are true artists; they remould reality nearer to the heart's desire............

Is there a pick for today?....

....if not, I nominate MSG 9.18.91.

Early bird

Gets the worm!
Was gonna say 4/6/78, but vguys already on it with 9/18/91.
Rollin!

EDIT: solid show, nice pick! Good Healy/Pearson matrix, though I’m at work so not full immersion…

9/18/91

Alright, let's do it.

9/18/91

Managed to get in the 1st set last night. Really nice. Some interesting and cool midi work by Jerry in there. And during Wang Dang Doodle, Hornsby is quoting Thelonious Monk! That's was pretty out there. I think the Monk tune was Bolivar Blues. Years ago I remember reading about an interview where Monk was asked about writing a song for Simon Bolivar, the Latin American hero. And he replied, no man, that's about the Bolivar Hotel in NYC. At some point I need to listen to a lot more from the Hornsby era.

Again just want to mention that Colgate 11/4/77 show. Its got that Jones Band Set II Phil is weirdly hammered intro. Set starts out with a great Samson that just on a dime segues into a kicking Cold Rain and Snow. Great show.

On way back home last night had the bonus disc spinning from Road Trips 3 No. 3, 5/15/70 Fillmore East. It is a jewel. I love the acoustic material from that release. What a great Cumberland on the bonus. And a few songs later it was Attics of My Life as the sun was setting. so sweet.

Have a great day folks.

Buenos Dias Rockeros!

So no pick?
How’s aboutta 4/6/78? Betty board from that fine spring tour?

BC, funny, I’ve been thinking about 11/4 for no real reason? Ive scrolled past on my music server several times recently and for whatever reason I see it and go, “hmmmm, been awhile”…so perhaps this WE when I’m home I’ll spin er up!
Did the Chrotchfester show a month or so back. Crazy how much more intense these later 77scare compared to the smooth perfection of May?

Bruce quoting: yeah if you really pay attention he’s always throwing little quotes in there. The best is when he and Jerry throw stuff back and forth like that. Think JG really dug having someone to do more of that.
Good sheet Mon!

4/6/78

Still working my way through 9/18/91, which is excellent by the way. I mean, the whole MSG run, is outstanding. So many good shows and the Brandford show.

4/6/78, Tampa, alright in the que. Good idea OB.

Yes, Bluecrow, I am a huge fan of RT3. 3, such a great release. I think I paid a pretty penny for this a couple years ago new with the bonus disc and it was worth every penny.

Stay well out there all.
Hope they consider a MUATM this year. It is time.

Bruce era

A Bruce Box needs to happen.
Some good stuff there, as evidenced by the 91 shows in the Giants Box.

Listened to 6-22-91 a few days ago. That’s a good one.
So is 10-31-91.
And there are many more.

Dave,
Give us a Bruce Box.
The 2 Box-per-year release model allows you to make even more $ for Rhino and keep everyone happy. And for those of us who will buy both Boxes, we get even more official releases per year than with the current model.

They've Been Light on the Bruce Years

I think for the most part, the Bruce era is well recorded too. At least give us a Dave's Pick with Ole Brucey.

Bruce Era

My personal favorite show with Bruce is 9/22/91. It’s just got everything going for it……

He Said "Brucey"

That is all

ahhh..

Another tidbit. I am reinvigorated and will use up another one of the three guesses.

Pick

A lot of talk on the LTTR thread recently about late 72 shows.

Made me want to revisit Dave's 11 from Wichita, 11/17/72. Who is up for it?

I'll Bite

I did 9/21/72 this morning. Why not continue..

Edit: Hit the spot. Did the bonus disc too. Added the second set of 5/2/72 for good measure. A DHB Hattrick?

DaP 11 v. DaP 34/35

I am currently working my way through the series. I started the excursion with Vol. 19. I might as well continue through and then start over maybe with some diversions along the way.

Lots of Talk About Collgate '77 on the 41 Thread

Since there's no pick today I am going to venture there.

11/17/72 Dave's #11

Well, I still really love this release. Shorter show for 72, but high energy and great recording. Monster first set, nice Sugaree, Bird Song, Box of Rain. Great second set Cumberland, El Paso-He's Gone, the Truckin into The Other One is a good example of the greatness of their improvisation. Great show and the bonus tracks from 11/15/72 are really good as well. Probably one of my favorite liner notes. Great story.
Jim, the Colgate 77 show is always worth a listen as well, I think Bluecrow had this going recently as well. I really like the show but the early Iko Ikos are not fully developed yet.

Where we headed next?

I keep running across shows that look interesting in my quest to answer the latest Bolo contest, but unfortunately haven't cracked it yet.

A desert is a place without expectation……

Hey, rockers!!!

Pick of the day: Star Theater March 8 1970

What to do with uninvited, unexpected guests? It can get problematic, whether it’s your house or your concert…………..

Interesting little show and a nice example of the early 1970 electric/acoustic/electric format. Bob Weir’s attempted humor. Interesting China/Rider/High Time trifecta. Bouncy Dire Wolf. Greasy Hard To Handle. Hunky dory so far…………..

As with many early 1970 acoustic sets, this one has a casual, warm feeling. Tasty Monkey & The Engineer, Been All Around This World, Me & My Uncle and Black Peter. Things start to go a little sideways at the end of Katie Mae, as a local high school student---part rock and roll cheerleader, part blues screamer---joins in the festivities as they evolve/devolve into a spontaneous and quirky blues jam. Sounds odd now but sounds like at the time the audience was digging it………

Cap it all off with a hot NFA/Lovelight with more screaming and an unknown harmonica player sittin’ in…………

The available recordings, while a bit rough, are actually pretty listenable. However, given how sonically spoiled we’ve become, I’m not sure it can be brought up to official release standards. Not even sure it should be an official release, admittedly it would be way down on my wish list.

By no means a classic, but I’m glad I have it………………

Doc
This is the sense of the desert hills, that there is room enough and time enough……

Re: 3/8

A new one for me, I'm in.

I think I might be going to Montana soon...

Any intertest in 5/14/74 Missoula? It's been forever since I listened to it.

3/8/70 Santa Monica Civic Cntr was an interesting little show.. clocking in at just over 91 minutes it's approachable.
A varied little show, it has a little dose of everything except the big wide-open jam. I guess it was Elvin Bishop that sat in for the last few songs?? They must have been sharing a ticket (Paul Butterfield Blues Band??). Anyway, a nice little ear opener.. it should go well with 5/14 which has quite the big wide-open Jam on one of the scarier, more dissonant Dark Stars of '74.

Onward.

5/14/74

Yes, in for more 74. Good idea Jim. Dave's #9.,...... This site needs some new release news soon.

Half n Half

Only made it halfway through but it was quite good. Set two queued up for tomorrow.

3/8/70

Theater in the Round sounded really good, at least as far as I got. Must admit I bailed as things went sideways out of Katie Mae. Wasn't in the mood for that. Will probably revisit sometime. Show seems really short to me and think there would have been more if not for that ego display. Side note - has anybody seen a photo of Pig singing and playing the guitar during those 1970 Katie Maes?

In that early acoustic/electric show space. After 5/15/70 (and the 5/14 filler) dusted off DiP 8 (5/2 Harper) earlier this week. Been a real long long time since I listened to that legend show. Simply amazing. Of course love the acoustic material. The Cryptical > Other one > cryptical was mind blown (once again). Nonpareil. A testament to Dick working to get some big shows like this and the Fillmore 2/13 out early in that series.

Dug deep into a drawer with some lost releases (at least for me). #1 - Fallout from the Phil Zone. That Disc 1 was an awesome sequence, both then and now. some has been released in fuller context many year later, but not all of it. #2 Rockin' the Rhein. Really good to have those stand alone releases from Europe 72 tour, with a mix that is true to Keith's playing as being an integral part of the sound.

Yep - definitely up for going to Montana soon.

And Senator Oro - "pot calling the cattle back" is top shelf humor for me.

Re: Ego Display

Well put. If I drank enough alcohol, I could sing like that too until the police arrived, put me in handcuffs and to the liking of all hauled me off to the county jail.

Well, set two awaits.

Well, it's been about 3 weeks...

No contest winner. Try again in a couple months or so.

I'm off to Moscow to have "tea" with Vlad.

After the buzzer

but I had some thoughts rattling around in my bluecrow brain : )

Now back to a rockin NFA> Going Down The Road > NFA on the Rhein

edit: waiting for a recaptcha that asks for tractors and one of the pics is a Ukraine farmer hauling a tank.

5/14/74 Dave's #9

Made it through this release today. For me, good, enjoyable show. Good first set, the PITB is great. Good US Blues. Nice combo of WRS into Dark Star that goes off the rails for a bit.

I love the February 74 shows and I am looking forward to #42. I have always felt they picked up steam in June through August and of course the October mega shows. Still want that Winterland 74 complete run box. Give it to us Dave.

Looking at 3/31/91 from Greensboro NC for tomorrow. Who is in?

Came across this one as I was looking through the Bruce era trying to figure out Miami Greyhound squid. No luck yet.

That underwear draw must be bursting at the seams Bolo.

Sorry Bolo

We tried.. your clues are friggin hard.. but we tried. I, for one, had not given up.

#FU Count Vlad

Finished Montana. A nice show and a good warmup for #42. The PITB came in focus for me. The DS still contains sharp shards of broken glass that pierces my ears. Sometimes when I listen to the Dead and it becomes too intense, I have to remind myself.. tension, release, repeat. There are some jazzy moments, but that DS has some unresolved demons.

My old buddy…

yer moving much too slow.

Yeeesshhkk, interweb was out at house I’m working at so no streaming all week. Now it’s back up but the new equipment I’ve installed has no analog inputs. Meant to bring a A/D converter with me, but once again we’re a day late and a dollar short! Doooaaahhh!
So I’ll hopefully get 3/8/70, 3/31/91, and gulp, the scary moons 74 show in this WE.
LOVE that Dark Star, as I believe HST once said “it never got weird enough”
Thanks again Otis!
Speaking of the good Doctor, check out the new docudrama Fear and Loathing in Aspen!

EDIT: hey Bolo, I still got a headache lol. So how bout giving us the answer after we all hurt ourselves trying to figure it out?

Contest answer

From my post on 2/19 -

here's the clue for Today: Miami greyhound squid

You may notice that the "T" in Today was unnecessarily capitalized. Hence, show date is 2/19.

The Dead played seven times on 2/19. But where and which year?

"Miami greyhound" was the nickname for Hall-of-Fame basketball player Rick Barry of the Golden State Warriors. The team played their games at the Oakland Coliseum Arena. But not on 2/19/91, because the Grateful Dead played there that night.

For extra credit, I was going to ask if anyone knew the historical significance of that show. That's where "squid" comes in. If you Google "Grateful Dead squid," a video pops up of a band called Squid playing "New Speedway Boogie." Rick Barry's jersey number was 24, and 2/19/91 was the 24th time the GD played that tune. It was also the first time they played it since 9/20/1970 - on hiatus for over 20 years!

Over and out.

Bolo, you sadistic bastard! ; )

do you know who your dealing with here?
This ain’t MIT, I think as a senator from the great DH state of altered consciousness I can speak for the majority here and perhaps respectfully remind you who your dealing with here. It seems perhaps you’ve mixed up your on line routing/addresses and sent us senile, nearly brain dead acid casualties, some firmly in the horrible grasp of our golden years, a mind puzzle perhaps meant for your extra intelligent intelligence cohorts?
No harm no foul, but I will be billing you for the extra analgesics required to dull the on going throbbing headache that many of us have endured due to your unfortunate mix up.
Hopefully your IT specialists can rectify this idiosyncrasy in a timely fashion, thus ensuring that the next contest will be just exactly perfect and thus more appropriate for the smoking crater of what’s left of our minds? Thank you!
Or? I Dunno, maybe it was the ibogaine?

holy guacamole

wow.

it's like i'm playing marbles, having already lost a few, and Bolo's out there way past tri-dimensional chess.

love it.

Re: Ouroborous

I have found that ether helps with the headaches..

Contest

Huh, can't believe I didn't get it. 🤔

There is nothing

more depraved than a man in the height of an ether binge!

Another idea?

Years ago I used to make sampler CDs of some of my favorite Dead tunes and leave them in random places around whatever town I happened to be in at the time. Included was an email address the recipient could respond to with comments about the music. Overwhelmingly, the most common feedback was something along the lines of, "Wow. I had no idea this is what the Grateful Dead sounded like."

So here's the challenge: compose your ultimate GD show for a target audience of non-deadheads. That means no scary Dark Stars that might fry a newbie's brain. Limit the time to what could fit on 3 CDs, so maximum of 4 hours, and roughly follow what the Dead might do regarding first and second sets, etc.

My first "CD" will start with the Intro/H/S/F from "One from The Vault" (8/13/75) and end with "The Music Never Stopped" from DP18 (2/3/78). I'll figure out the rest as inspiration moves me brightly.

Anyway, if you're game, share your "best in show" so we can have something else to contemplate besides our navels. When I finish mine, I'll put the tunes on thumb drives and scatter them around town in some mysterious fashion to mess with unsuspecting, uptight humans. Time to expand their horizons!

Have fun!

Great idea Bolo, here's my show

1st set: Easy Wind, High Time, Greatest Story Ever Told, King Bee, China Cat/ Sitting on top of the World, Promised Land, Next Time You See Me, Attics of My Life, The Music Never Stopped. 2nd set:: Cumberland Blues, Dire Wolf, Alligator> Truckin> Space> Death Don't Have No Mercy> Viola Lee Blues>Feedbck. encore. Casey Jones. & Broke down Palace

Re: I Found One Of Those CDs

And I replied to the email.

You might remember me; I was the one that asked why it didn't include any scary, the world is ending Dark Stars.

3/31/91

Another really good spring 91 show. This one is worth checking out if you have never heard it. Great first set and the second set Eyes-Playing is special.

3/31

Tomorrow's Pick of the Day?

RE: Another idea? On second thought...

I'm not sure it's possible in the time allotted. I'm well over 4 hours already and I haven't even decided which version of "Jack-A-Roe" to include yet.

So, screw the time limit. I'm probably going to end up closer to 6 hours. If nothing else, this exercise has clearly demonstrated to me that there are just too many great versions of too many great songs.

What a band!

I'll Bite

My one CD abbreviated version.

A Voice From On High - 5/15/70 Fillmore East
Cold Jordan - 5/15/70 Fillmore East
Cumberland Blues - 5/8/72 Empire Pool
Hard To Handle - 4/23/69
New Potatoe Caboose - Anthem of the Sun or 2/14/68
Eyes of the World - Bobby and Phil w/ Trey acoustic 3/3/18 Radio City Music Hall
Los Lobos Bertha (just because)
To Lay Me Down (studio)
Unbroken Chain (studio)
Help/Slip/Franklins from the Swing
Attics of my life, (tonight's version will do)

Tomorrow's choices will surely vary and contain a mind melting Dark Star

Edit: Oh hell.. toss in just about any 68 Viola Lee Blues as a litmus test. If they don't like it, we don't need em. :D
And I guess the Morning Dew from 2/27/77 to end the disc. You're right, six hours is not enough.

People come to music to seek oblivion......

Hey rockers!!

SET I: Truckin'-Beat It on Down the Line-Loser-El Paso-The Rub-Bird Song-Playing in the Band-Cumberland Blues-Ripple-Me and Bobby McGee-I'm a King Bee-Bertha

SET II: Morning Dew-Me and My Uncle-Deal-Hard to Handle-Cryptical Envelopment>drums>The Other One>Wharf Rat>Sugar Magnolia-Dark Star>St. Stephen>Not Fade Away>Going Down the Road Feelin' Bad>Not Fade Away

By the way, that would be April 28, 1971. Everything any sane person could need or want to know about the Grateful Dead, all in one show. Rock and roll, originals, covers, country western Bakersfield, greasy Pigpen, big jams. It's all right there............

Not too mellow, not too crazy. Well, maybe, lol, Hard To Handle gets a little crazy. Listen and prepare to be amazed.......

Rock on, rollers!!!

Doc
A good mind should tell the difference between noise and music........

It can't be too scary

I did a tape for my brother, over 30 years ago, which had The Other One, Dancing In The Street and Viola Lee Blues from 5/2/70 on. He had heard me playing the official releases over the years and thought they were...okay. But that selection really impressed him. He had no idea they could play like that.

Sometimes it's the easier listening stuff that is harder for non Deadheads to get into than the heavier stuff. You've got to point Percy at the people.

POT Day with discussion

5/14/74: always surprises me just how much I like this one! So much good sheet besides the awesome Dark Star! That whole disc three just kicks ass! When I think of DaPs, this one, Scooby House, and Skeletor Skater are the first ones that pop up in my minds eye.

3/8/70: liked the short show format. Agree with others: sound ok considering, ok show until the unfortunate take over. Especially during Katie Mae! Talk about rudes interuptus! Couidnt he let pig finish the song, yeesshhhkk!
Gotta love how JG always takes these situations and uses them as a way to support whatever was going on. Like when he plays on others songs, he’s as good or better supporting others as he is leading!
This is the kind nugget I’m looking for here on Pot Day, doesn’t have to be a great show, but the chances of just stumbling on this were low. So thanks to Doc for digging up this historical little nugget.

3/31/91: First set looks great on paper, but? Not a bad set, but seemed kinda average, comparatively.
The second set made up for it though. Like many of the Hornsby lineup tunes, the Samsons are like big fright trains that take a little time to get going outta the station, but when they do get up to speed, woo, woooo!
They mesh that into a nice eyes with a awesome dreamy sequence that eventually comes out the other side and back to earth with the Wheel, including a couple of obvious Dark Star teases, but alas that would have to wait for the following night at that excellent Greensboro show Conekid turned us into a while back.
Big Chuck B double scoop of R&R to bring her home, and sweet knockin to bring ‘em back to earth.
Perhaps a tad short, but an overall enjoyable show. Don’t think I’d call release worthy since there are so many other strong 91s, if only they give us a 91 box…

Ok, what next? I might hit 4/17/82 today!
Onward!

I’m glad Bolos not my boss!

Bolo the taskmaster lol. Boys tough!
I’m sorry, I don’t think I can do a live version, there’s just too much: too many must have songs, from different must have eras etc.,
BUT, I’ve already done a “album” version back a few years. I was asked to make a disc of the most known, perhaps main songs for someone who had causally seen the band and had some interest BITD. I was asked to keep it simple, no 36 minute songs etc lol. So I started thinking the same way Bolo presented this to us and realized if I tried to pick live stuff I’d die before I finished lol, so thought I’d use album versions, like I was teaching a GD 101 course.
My criteria was to use the most well known, most easily accessible, sometimes the hits, but not always, and at least one song from every studio album, with at least one song from the main band members, in chronological order.
Well it became quickly apparent that I couldn’t do that on only one disc, but did not want to go more than two. So it was a tough but fun process but here’s what I came up with. Like all final cuts I’m sure there’s room for “discussion” LOL

NOTE: I use “album” loosely since there are several must have tunes that were never recorded on studio albums, so versions were taken from Skull Fuck and E72, which, are arguably hybrids. I Mean you HAVE to have a Bertha for example..Also, I used Must of Been Roses from Compliments, technically a JG album, but much of it in actuality of course is a band album similar to ACE. This song is slightly not chronological too, in order to keep the normal Jer/Bob sequencing. Days Between is from the So Many Roads box, which at the time was the closet thing to a studio cut I had.
The Cryptical Suite was edited because of time constraints of the Redbook CD format, so I cut the last couple minutes and faded out using the trusty ML 9600 right after JG sings the last “has to die” part.

Pedro’s GD Chronological Album Retrospective
DISC 1: GD 101.1
1- The Golden Road (to unlimited devotion)
2- That’s it For the Other One p/o
3- Saint Stephen
4- Uncle John’s Band
5- Box of Rain (Phil)
6- Friend of the Devil
7- Sugar Magnolia
8- Operator (Pig)
9- Truckin’
10- Bertha
11- Playing in the Band
12- Brown Eyed Women
13- Jack Straw
14- Ramble on Rose
15- One More Saturday Night
16- Eyes of the World
17- Stella Blue

DISC 2: 101.2
1- U.S. Blues
2- Scarlet Begonias
3- Ship of Fools
4- The Music Never Stopped
5- Samson and Delilah
6- Must of Been the Roses
7- Estimated Prophet
8- Shakedown Street
9- Alabama Getaway
10- Althea
11- Hell In A Bucket
12- Touch of Gray
13- Just A Little Light (Brent)
14- Foolish Heart
15- Days Between

Ok, your probably like “where’s Terrapin, where’s Feel Like a Stranger” etc. Again, I was asked not to use jammy, obscure or other less accessible stuff. I’m sure there are a few I might of used instead, but I was thinking about what was most well know and easily accessible to newbie, ya know, ya learn to walk before you can run…
My intention was to follow up with a second term GD 201 course version which would have hit the next level of songs: Terrapin, Stranger, H/S/F, China/Rider, etc. That could theoretically be followed up by GD 301 getting into the extended TOO, DS, Playins etc…
I think this is a decent attempt at presenting the unpresentable to the often accessibly challenged ; )
Oh, the gal I made this for loved it, said it was great except a couple of the first weird tunes lol, but she said she liked them and had her interest piqued!