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    You can listen to Grateful Dead records over and over again and never understand the attraction they have for certain people until you attend one of their concerts. Sometime during the Dead's usual five-hour set, it will all click: Jerry Garcia's Indian bead string of notes on the guitar, the ozone ooze of the vocal harmonies, the shifting, shuffling rhythm of bassist Phil Lesh and drummer Bill Kreutzmann, and the distant echo of the oldest of American folk music. - Columbia Flier

    "Certain people" will know that we're coming in hot with one that's got all these things and more, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 41: BALTIMORE CIVIC CENTER, BALTIMORE, MARYLAND, 5/26/77. Yes, there's still plenty of spectacular May '77 to go around. Nearly chosen for Dave's Picks Vol. 1, 5/26/77 delivers three-fold. There's one count for the energy - all the precision of the Spring tour conjuring up the raw power of the Fall tour that was to come. There's another for the setlist which featured beloved songs from WORKINGMAN'S DEAD and soon-to-be favorites from the freshly recorded TERRAPIN STATION. And a third for its element of surprise (or shall we say surprises) from an astonishingly peak 15-minute "Sugaree" to new delights ("Sunrise," "Passenger," "Jack-A-Roe') to a rare first-set finale of "Bertha" to the second set's "Terrapin>Estimated>Eyes," traveling leaps and bounds towards the improvisational journey that is a nearly 17-minute "Not Fade Away." 

    Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 41: BALTIMORE CIVIC CENTER, BALTIMORE, MARYLAND, 5/26/77 was recorded by Betty Cantor-Jackson and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. Grab a copy while you can.

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  • alvarhanso
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    DaP 40 was DAT master I think

    Believe that one came from the DAT 2 track master, not a cassette. I would have less of a problem with DAT masters than cassette masters. Some of those cassettes do not sound good, and most are the PA mix and so are missing elements such as Phil Lesh's bass. But even with that, they felt they had to mix in an AUD for crowd noise. The crowd noise on DaP 36 was a bit too much, the Matrix mix could have dampened that a bit. DaP 8 was a good Matrix, though I can't tell you the last time I put it on, even just the Scarlet Fire. The completist (and bargain hunter) in me will make me subscribe every year, but there have been several lately I just don't think I'll be picking up to put on even every couple years. Even DaP 23 1/22/78 is one I don't listen to often. If I want a '78 show, I'm more apt to dig into July '78. Going to more cassette masters might change my calculus. And if they're gonna do an 80s-90s box, I would hope it would be DAT masters or multitracks like Spring '90 TOO. Fall '89 was recorded on multitrack, so that I could be far happier with than a box that has shows that sound like the worst of 30 Trips. Just hope we have years before we really reach the dregs at the bottom.

    Also, I'd much rather some of the 60s stuff gets put out while those fans are still around and still enjoying Dead releases.

  • wissinomingdeadhead
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    GD Trading Cards

    I wonder if these will have the same value as my Pokémon cards? I recently sold ONE 1st Edition Charizard for mid 6 figures, I'm still in a state of shock over it.

  • DeadVikes
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    Okay Hendrixfreak, I will mark it.

    I like the way your mind works. Are you sure you are not an accountant?

    We also had some cassette masters released in the Dick's picks series and previous Dave's picks as well as the 30 Trips box.

    Any thoughts on why the last box hasn't sold yet? How long do you think it will take?

    I do think we will get an 80s box released this year. Just would love to know when.

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    HF, I thoroughly enjoyed your detail-oriented (and scratch math-heavy) assessment;
    it had me nodding my own noggin along with it by the end.

    Give us some 85.
    I wish for April Twenty-Seventh, 1985 at The Frost please.
    To start.

    Sixtus

  • hendrixfreak
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    My theory...

    The lack of pertinent filler and the inclusion of a 1990 encore of US Blues (and other "clues") pushes me to look for a pattern and I think I see one.

    Last year, partly no doubt to reward Lemiuex for successful "legacy management" -- and, obviously, the evidence: a solid sales record --- Rhino gave DL the green light to put out his first two shows ('87) in a four-disc set based on a cassette master. Same thing with the '90 show, sans the encore. So far, historically speaking, they've been loathe to release more '80s shows due to the quality of the cassette masters. So 2021 was a test of cassette master viability in the market.

    Now Dave speaks of "variety," which tells me that he and Rhino believe they can sell the music on the '80s cassette masters. No doubt there's smokin' music on many extant '80s cassettes -- many if not most of us caught smokin' '80s shows (particularly '80 to ... you choose the year their batting average dropped). So into the release mix they go. Those DPs sold out, right?

    Compared to other bands' archival releases, '80s cassette masters of GD shows probably hold up pretty well. In terms of what the GD have released, it would be a drop in sound quality. Fans like us might bitch, initially, but will we buy it? I believe that this year they will construct a box set of these shows and its sales will be the arbiter of whether this strategy works over time. Part of the appeal of DPs, for me, is that they're relatively inexpensive and, lately, two of four will be pretty vintage -- I'm not going to risk losing out on them, especially the bonus disc. $100/yr is nothing. And if I don't care for a box, I won't buy it. I skipped the '90s boxes because I don't need to have it all. But the relentlessness of releases means that we already have a phenomenal record of this band's ability to deliver. If in a few years the market's enthusiasm begins to wane, they can dial back the number of copies in the limited DP series.

    What's the advantage to testing the market-ability of '80s cassette masters? They have nothing to lose but one slow-selling box. They have a limited number of iconic shows in the Vault. Though somewhat plentiful, release-able shows from 1971-1979, say, are finite. By my count, they've delivered nearly half of all shows played in the 1971-1974 period, so well over half the release-able goods. Ultimately, if they plan to have their releases hold up for another, say, 15 years, they've got to mine the '80s. 15 yrs of DPs = 75 shows. 15 yrs of 6-show boxes = 90 shows. Toss in a few random releases and that's ~175 shows. Say the years 1971 to 1974 will still yield ~15-20 shows each (max). That's 60-80 shows. Say there's another 10 from '69 that'll work and 20 each from 1976 to 1979. That's another 80. That's pretty close to the max needed. Although I think DL has remarked about "20" years (add another 50 shows to release). Say we have ~200 shows already. Add another ~200 shows and that's closing in on one-third of the 1,500 shows rumored to be in the vaults. That's a big percentage. Dipping into the '80s cassettes gives them a lot of breathing room and would make the choice stuff that's left sound even better by comparison.

    Mark my words: look for the box set annoucement this summer and we'll see just exactly how addled I really am!

  • 1stshow70878
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    And Now Trading Cards?

    But the glassware is still there. I guess cards make sense. A rabid base of collectors what with sports and other categories. Can't wait to see how sky high those go on Fleabay soon. Wonder how many of those they printed?
    Cheers

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    Gone, all gone

    Looks like it took about 24 hours to sell out.

  • stillwaters
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    I concur both in reasoning and conclusions

  • alvarhanso
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    Filler? That's it?

    Just one song? Just the US Blues from 13 years later? And 45 min of blank space? Why even bother putting a US Blues on there? None of the 5/22/77 material that was left off of DP3 is usable? Makes no sense to me. The Jack Straw, Ship of Fools and Other One> Stella Blue 5/18/77 could have fit, unless that show is a potential DaP, but that's why I allowed myself to hope that some of the missing 5/22 material would be used. Shame.

    The Sugaree from this show is fantastic, and I liked the 2nd set Jam. The Jack a Roe sounds fantastic in the listening party, and love Jerry's use of the Octave Divider and MuTron on Uncle John's, a great sound.

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    According to the crack customer service team at dead dot net, there is only one way to handle address changes. You must contact customer service and have the subscription address changed to:

    JimInMD
    Baltimore Civic Center, Box 1968
    Baltimore, MD 21211

    (or you could do as Sixtus suggests, up to you) :D

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You can listen to Grateful Dead records over and over again and never understand the attraction they have for certain people until you attend one of their concerts. Sometime during the Dead's usual five-hour set, it will all click: Jerry Garcia's Indian bead string of notes on the guitar, the ozone ooze of the vocal harmonies, the shifting, shuffling rhythm of bassist Phil Lesh and drummer Bill Kreutzmann, and the distant echo of the oldest of American folk music. - Columbia Flier

"Certain people" will know that we're coming in hot with one that's got all these things and more, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 41: BALTIMORE CIVIC CENTER, BALTIMORE, MARYLAND, 5/26/77. Yes, there's still plenty of spectacular May '77 to go around. Nearly chosen for Dave's Picks Vol. 1, 5/26/77 delivers three-fold. There's one count for the energy - all the precision of the Spring tour conjuring up the raw power of the Fall tour that was to come. There's another for the setlist which featured beloved songs from WORKINGMAN'S DEAD and soon-to-be favorites from the freshly recorded TERRAPIN STATION. And a third for its element of surprise (or shall we say surprises) from an astonishingly peak 15-minute "Sugaree" to new delights ("Sunrise," "Passenger," "Jack-A-Roe') to a rare first-set finale of "Bertha" to the second set's "Terrapin>Estimated>Eyes," traveling leaps and bounds towards the improvisational journey that is a nearly 17-minute "Not Fade Away." 

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 41: BALTIMORE CIVIC CENTER, BALTIMORE, MARYLAND, 5/26/77 was recorded by Betty Cantor-Jackson and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. Grab a copy while you can.

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"About 120 shows were played in 1967 and only about a dozen tapes are in the vault". Hopefully more will show up, were lucky to have the tape from the Shrine Auditorium.

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Nappy, as soon as he figures out your passwords you're done. With your PC and Amazon two day shipping they have little use for us.

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Hey Pedro, I ordered the re-released DP 19 CD directly from Real Gone.

They are producing the correct Disc 3 and mailing out to everyone who got the duplicate disc through them.

Mine is theoretically scheduled to arrive today, after an epic USPS routing journey from California to Denver to Harrisburg PA to Lancaster PA to Chicago and finally back to Denver.

Chicago, New York, Detroit, it's all the same street...

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So, after Jimmy Buffett dies and enters the pearly gates, God takes him on a tour. He shows Jimmy a little two bedroom house with a faded parrot banner hanging from the front porch.
This is your house, Jimmy. Most people don’t get their own houses up here, God Says.
Jimmy looks at the house, then turns around and looks at the one sitting on top of the hill.
It’s a huge two-story mansion with white marble columns and little patios under all the windows. Tie-dyed flags line both sides of the sidewalk and a huge Grateful Dead banner hangs between the columns.
Thanks for the house, God, But let me ask you a question.
I get this little two bedroom house with a faded banner and Jerry Garcia gets a mansion with brand new Grateful Dead Banners and flags flying all over the place. Why is that?
God looks at him seriously for a moment, then with a smile God Says,
That’s not Jerry’s house, it’s mine.

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Hey rockers!!!

Is it just me, but did every DaP just disappear from the Dead store. In the past, they always left even the sold out one up there for a while..........

Rock on, with a tip of the hat to H G Wells and Claude Rains,

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I'm not sure that I ever could, but I certainly had the ability to pass unnoticed.

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I was wondering the same. Dave's picks have disappeared completely.

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I think it's because they're all going to be replaced by Doc's Picks..............

Ah, one can dream.......................

Doc
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Lene Lovich!!! Mas cool...saw her at the Whisky in West Hollywood way back when...Her and Les rocked the joint!

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Lots of fun people and not crowded. The band came out smokin' with a new killer drummer (so sorry, Bugs, you were major fun) and Conrad's son played electric bass throughout (no guitarron, unfortunately), as Conrad is recovering from a non-threatening health thing-y. With a new rhythm section, these guys simply rocked out, though they also did some multi-instrumental Mexican folk songs for which they're deservedly famous.

Naturally, especially for Boulder, they did NFA and Bertha in a medley that turned into an insane, long jam. Caught up with some of my peeps after a too-long hiatus and we had a blast, with a little whiskey and a little Indica to sweeten the already amped mood.

Let me tell you, folks, going to a show, hanging with a fun crowd, catching up with friends and partying to the hardest-working American band of 50 years standing (I've caught them maybe 15-20 times over the past 30 years) was, in a word, humanizing.

Got up today, went about my business with a smile, renewed, eager for more. This period right now is likely to be a lull in the pandemic and I'm going to take advantage of it by hitting my local open mic sessions and catching a few local bands. Once spring arrives, it'll be easier to be safe outdoors.

That's my story and I'm sticking to it. As you were....

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Just listening to the first set pitb. My daughter was visiting, and she said "good jam dad." The dead right? ...........yup.

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....they played my favorite Samson that evening 👍.
I've caught The Wolves four times. Never left disappointed.
Jim. Just Do It.
Thumbs up to the "good jam Dad" Carlo. My son did that during a Hell In A Bucket I played the other day.
And no, I'm not a Nike spokesperson. I'm an Adidas, Sketcher and Birkenstock kind of guy....yup.

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Yup. That Sampson on 76' can be tricky for novice deadheads since it starts quite different , and can be passed by if not looking at set list. aka. Browsing.

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Rodney dangerfield and joe pesci said in easy money, "we're just browsing". "Well , you dont look like browsers". "Mabey I'm just half browser, on my fathers side". I guess you had to see the movie.

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By the time that CD came out, I was looking for new Dead releases every time I went you the record store. I was only really into the two-tracks in those days, but I did try out a few Dick's Picks (16, 18, & 20). I understood two-tracks to be anything that was not a Dick's Picks (but they did sneak To Terrapin: Hartford '77 right under my nose; that thing was mixed perfectly at the board and they knew it). Anyway, I remember listening to Disc 2 first, because seeking out a Sugar Magnolia to supplant Rockin' The Rhein was an undercurrent in my Dead upbringing (I still love Rhein the best).

When that Samson pre-jam came on, I had lost track of where I was in the disc but remember being enthralled by it and thinking, yeah, this is why I love the Dead. And then the Jam merged into Samson, and all was good in the world.

Stoltz, that might be my all time favorite Floyd moment. The Echoes "guitar part" is right up there.

Only two more months until Winterland Feb '74 + Bonus.

....from New Year's 76 also sticks out way far in my mind. The totally seamless switching they do during the Good Lovin into that Samson is something to behold. I still remember where I was the first time I actually *heard* that sequence, driving from DC to Baltimore to go hang with my brother. When this segment came on I recall jaw dropping, staring blankly at my car CD player saying *WHOA*. The light had turned green, I was none the wiser.
That show has been a top tier '76er for a looong time.

Be Well People.

Seventy-Sixtus

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A much happier story, "the light had turned green, but I was none the wiser"

then

"The light had turned red, but I was none the wiser"

Sampson and Terrapin Station (the studio version at least) are two songs that really benefited from two drummers.

Back to your regularly scheduled Dark Star > Discord & Mayhem. May the peak be with you.

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Apparently a mummified body was found in a wall at Henry J. Kaiser Convention Center.
Did someone get stuck while trying to sneak into a Dead show?

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a DJ in LA early to mid 60's...his name was Gene Weed and he went by the promo name of "The Weedy One"...he worked at KFWB and also hosted the TV show "Shivaree" which was a syndicated answer to "Shindig"...the weedy one indeed...by '67 he was weedy no more...I say a strain should be named after him....

Both tragic and hilarious. One of those things you just can't reconcile.

To all you kids watching at home.. being stoned does not give you walk through solid objects superpowers.

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In the early 90's there was a gig at the LA Memorial Coliseum ...Headlining was Guns 'n Roses, 2nd bill was Metallica and opening was Motorhead...A buddy of mine took his 14 year old nephew and copped a couple of backstage passes from a friend of his...his nephew was a big Metallica fan and wanted to get their autographs on an LP he brought...a band flunky was standing by the door to their motorhome/dressing room and rather rudely told them they couldn't go in...Lemmy watched this go down, told my buddy "we'll be right back" and steered the kid towards the door, gave the flunky an "I dare you look" and they both went in...a bit later they came out and Jace was loaded down with swag and his autographed LP...my buddy thanked Lemmy and then Lemmy asked Jace "do you want G'nR's autographs too?" and Jace told him "Nah, they suck"...Lemmy looked at my buddy and said "That's a smart kid..."

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That's a wild story. I saw some great shows in that building. The last time I saw the Grateful Dead there was Feb 1989.

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I've been digging on this one lately! I agree with Dave on his thoughts of this show sounding a little more raw/gnarly compared to other spring 77. Dave has spoken of this show often since arriving on scene. Another great pick!........ such a great time to be a Deadhead, right?........ have a grateful day, Gang!!

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The Mummy was a DH who got so high that at the exact moment he was peaking somehow his molecular structure vibrated at the right frequency to move through the first wall, but because of the composition of the second wall his progress was impeded at just the moment when his peak and the peak of the song subsided, thereby significantly reducing the molecular frequency such that he was now unfortunately trapped inside the wall. To make matters worse, his attempts to pound on the walls and yell were dampened by the unfortunate fact that Drumz was now in full progress and by the time the sound was quiet enough for him to be heard, he was unconscious due to lack of oxygen, thereby sealing his macabre eternal fate, until now.
Brings new insight into “you’d be better off dead” !
Goes to show, ya don’t ever know! Perhaps he shouldn’t have dropped that last tab? You all know the story “ well I dropped a couple hours ago but I’m not feeling it, maybe I should eat another one”

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from the Napster! Keep ‘em coming.
Too funny, nobody likes Axel, even other heavy metlers lol.

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From my post on 2/19 -

here's the clue for Today: Miami greyhound squid

You may notice that the "T" in Today was unnecessarily capitalized. Hence, show date is 2/19.

The Dead played seven times on 2/19. But where and which year?

"Miami greyhound" was the nickname for Hall-of-Fame basketball player Rick Barry of the Golden State Warriors. The team played their games at the Oakland Coliseum Arena. But not on 2/19/91, because the Grateful Dead played there that night.

For extra credit, I was going to ask if anyone knew the historical significance of that show. That's where "squid" comes in. If you Google "Grateful Dead squid," a video pops up of a band called Squid playing "New Speedway Boogie." Rick Barry's jersey number was 24, and 2/19/91 was the 24th time the GD played that tune. It was also the first time they played it since 9/20/1970 - on hiatus for over 20 years!

Over and out.

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What a weird find! Gives new meaning to the phrase “If these walls could talk”. The press is speculating it may have been someone “accidentally” (on purpose al a Jimmy Hoffa) got caught in the wall during construction.
It begs the question - didn’t any of the other workers notice when the young carpenter’s apprentice disappeared after lunch? Stopped reporting for work? Never came for his pay?

I’d say there is skullduggery afoot in Oakland all those years ago…a mystery for the ages.

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I just listened to Ry Cooders fine Paradise and Lunch album containing the awesome song “ain’t ya glad” that walls can’t talk etc
Spooky, must be that 5/14/74 DS we been messing with on POTD, like a psychedelic weegee board!

Sorry about that Chief (er uhm Bolo)

So Bolo, who is that mummified twirler hiding in the walls of the Kaiser? If anyone knows it's you.

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But if he told you he’d have to kill ya!

EDIT: notice the way back machine has been reprogrammed.
Do you know somethingbyer not telling us?

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