DAVE'S PICKS VOL. 41: BALTIMORE CIVIC CENTER, BALTIMORE, MD 5/26/77

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You can listen to Grateful Dead records over and over again and never understand the attraction they have for certain people until you attend one of their concerts. Sometime during the Dead's usual five-hour set, it will all click: Jerry Garcia's Indian bead string of notes on the guitar, the ozone ooze of the vocal harmonies, the shifting, shuffling rhythm of bassist Phil Lesh and drummer Bill Kreutzmann, and the distant echo of the oldest of American folk music. - Columbia Flier

"Certain people" will know that we're coming in hot with one that's got all these things and more, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 41: BALTIMORE CIVIC CENTER, BALTIMORE, MARYLAND, 5/26/77. Yes, there's still plenty of spectacular May '77 to go around. Nearly chosen for Dave's Picks Vol. 1, 5/26/77 delivers three-fold. There's one count for the energy - all the precision of the Spring tour conjuring up the raw power of the Fall tour that was to come. There's another for the setlist which featured beloved songs from WORKINGMAN'S DEAD and soon-to-be favorites from the freshly recorded TERRAPIN STATION. And a third for its element of surprise (or shall we say surprises) from an astonishingly peak 15-minute "Sugaree" to new delights ("Sunrise," "Passenger," "Jack-A-Roe') to a rare first-set finale of "Bertha" to the second set's "Terrapin>Estimated>Eyes," traveling leaps and bounds towards the improvisational journey that is a nearly 17-minute "Not Fade Away."

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 41: BALTIMORE CIVIC CENTER, BALTIMORE, MARYLAND, 5/26/77 was recorded by Betty Cantor-Jackson and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. Grab a copy while you can.

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February 2, 2022 - 10:23pm

#1061

Vguy72

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Today is 2.2.22....

....soon, it will be 2.22.22.
Neat.
Ultravox. INXS. Oingo Boingo. Simple Minds.
Goodnight peeps....
February 2, 2022 - 10:02pm

#1062

proudfoot

Joined:
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New wave

Hmm

Xtc?
Hazzee fantayzee?
Lena lovich?
M?

Bow wow wow? Remember the hot chick in the video singing i want candy and licking the melty ice cream cone?

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I sure do
February 2, 2022 - 7:18pm

#1063

Vguy72

Joined:
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Last Five....

....new wave.
February 2, 2022 - 6:58pm

#1064

Vguy72

Joined:
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We are listening to Baltimore '77....

.....although my son is enjoying Duran Duran. Rio.
I only have two ears and one auditory output at a time.
He thanked me for mixing it up a little. John Taylor lays some serious bass lines according to my minion.
I squirred. It happens.
February 2, 2022 - 6:07pm

#1065

JimInMD

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R&RHOF

It's largely irrelevant here in the US. Unless your car breaks down in Cleveland Ohio.. why bother. Full disclosure.. Cleveland is great city and is just few hours drive from me.. so considering the proximity I go to the Hall of Fame all the time (not). Never been, never will. (R&R Hall of Fame that is, Cleveland is cool).

I think that's about the answer one would expect. With the small exception of seeing a piddly list of newbies each year.. we don't give a shit and neither did Jerry.

Now what were we listening to again?
February 2, 2022 - 4:31pm

#1066

Vguy72

Joined:
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At least that hof list reminded me....

....that Duran Duran put a record out in October. Last Five will now include that. BRB.
Teen of the early '80's here.
February 2, 2022 - 4:26pm

#1067

icecrmcnkd

Joined:
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Everything’s moving here but much too slowly

USPS received my DaP41 from UPS on Saturday, but only delivered it today.

Sounds just as expected. Thanks Betty, Norman, Dave & Co.
I never had this on cassette and have listened to the torrent copy I have less than 5 times, so it’s basically a new show to me.
Yeah, the filler is jarring being at the end of CD 2. But glad we got it.
Since I only listen to the CD’s once to confirm that they aren’t defective and then copy to a HD, process, and transfer to a micro SDXC card for use in a music player, this show will flow smoothly and 7-19-90 will now have it’s encore.
February 2, 2022 - 4:07pm

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Vguy72

Joined:
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R&R Hall of Fame Nominees....

....are you kidding me?
Had to look up Fela Kuti. "He is regarded as the pioneer of Afrobeat, an African music genre that combines traditional Yoruba percussion and vocal styles with American funk and jazz."
Funk. And. Jazz. Ok.
At least they got Benatar, Priest, RATM and New York Dolls right.
DEVO and Eminem are questionable. Good to see The Eurythmics on the list. I assumed Judas Priest were already in. Sad. Doubly sad if they aren't like automatic.
And still no Iron Maiden, Phish or Smashing Pumpkins. Effin stupid.
February 2, 2022 - 2:04pm

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proudfoot

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one more re RnRHoF

1. I see the topic in the news source I frequent (Seattle Times), and so my puppydog attention is fetched.
2. I see nominees that have NOTHING to do with rocknroll. That's why my silk panties get knotted up.

"Pizza nominated for pencil hall of fame."

Mr. Natural sez: "The whole universe is completely insane!"

Yep.

I got #41 but it is still shrink wrapped.

"Soon...it would be soon"
- Waldo Jeffers
February 2, 2022 - 1:39pm

#1070

Crow Told Me

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It's He-ere!!!

Dap #41 has arrived, thenk ye gods, and it happened on a day when I could just plunk it in the player and listen to the whole thing. So I did. Can’t add much to what’s already been said: it’s pretty typical spring ’77, which is to say typically great, with typically good Betty board sound, typically good energy good voices good playing all around, a very “together” version of the GOGD.

And typical of the DaPs, it’s an untypical set list for the era, with no wide open jamming. For me, it was kind of nice to hear after residing in ’69 for a couple weeks. I thought the “Sugaree” and “High Time” were about as good as they ever get, and disc 3 is so good, from beginning to end, I’m sure I’ll be playing it a lot.

I do agree that the inclusion of the 1990 “US Blues” is jarring. It’s pretty weird to suddenly hear a Brent solo come barging in when you’re in a ‘70s set mindset. If the TPTB are listening, I would like to add my voice to those who prefer that any filler be pulled from the same tour.

The RnR HoF? I have no idea why it exists. There really isn’t much need to further honor the true hall of famers like the Beatles, Stones, Who, Zep, Dead. I suppose there’s some value in putting influential but lesser known artists, like say the Velvet Underground, alongside the acknowledged giants, because maybe it prompts some people to go check ‘em out. And it’s good that lesser known founding fathers (and mothers) like Howlin Wolf and Ma Rainey get some recognition. But the Hall has left out so many influential-but-relatively unknown artists (Gram Parson, Captain Beefheart, to name just two) and founding fathers (no Charlie Parker? are you shitting me?). And it seems to induct every top-selling but artistically bankrupt superstar act (too many to mention). And not a few leisure-suited music industry weasels whose sole contribution was ripping off the artists and accepting payola. It can’t be taken seriously.

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You can listen to Grateful Dead records over and over again and never understand the attraction they have for certain people until you attend one of their concerts. Sometime during the Dead's usual five-hour set, it will all click: Jerry Garcia's Indian bead string of notes on the guitar, the ozone ooze of the vocal harmonies, the shifting, shuffling rhythm of bassist Phil Lesh and drummer Bill Kreutzmann, and the distant echo of the oldest of American folk music. - Columbia Flier

"Certain people" will know that we're coming in hot with one that's got all these things and more, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 41: BALTIMORE CIVIC CENTER, BALTIMORE, MARYLAND, 5/26/77. Yes, there's still plenty of spectacular May '77 to go around. Nearly chosen for Dave's Picks Vol. 1, 5/26/77 delivers three-fold. There's one count for the energy - all the precision of the Spring tour conjuring up the raw power of the Fall tour that was to come. There's another for the setlist which featured beloved songs from WORKINGMAN'S DEAD and soon-to-be favorites from the freshly recorded TERRAPIN STATION. And a third for its element of surprise (or shall we say surprises) from an astonishingly peak 15-minute "Sugaree" to new delights ("Sunrise," "Passenger," "Jack-A-Roe') to a rare first-set finale of "Bertha" to the second set's "Terrapin>Estimated>Eyes," traveling leaps and bounds towards the improvisational journey that is a nearly 17-minute "Not Fade Away."

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 41: BALTIMORE CIVIC CENTER, BALTIMORE, MARYLAND, 5/26/77 was recorded by Betty Cantor-Jackson and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. Grab a copy while you can.

VGUY

I've seen Pearl Jam about a half-dozen times(give or take) going back to 1995(most recently in 2017), and I consider them a top shelf live act. I base this on a couple of factors: They ROCK HARD and mean it for a good 135 minutes easily. They change set lists every night. You always get some good stage banter from Eddie. Their audience is totally INTO IT!! They go nuts. I'd be shocked if you didn't come away with a feeling that you just saw a fantastic show.

Edit: Their first 4 albums are all top shelf, and #5 is pretty damn good. They lost the plot briefly, but they're back
in the saddle now, with the last 2 releases.

Last 5(I can't resist):

Patty Griffin-Silver Bell
Alan Parsons Project-The Instrumental Works
GOGD-5/17/77(Thanks Dennis!!)
Beaver & Krause-In A Wild Sanctuary
Julie Driscoll-1969

Music is the Best!!

Grumpy Grumpkins saw Pearl Jam

in Seattle 9/20/92

I wasn't impressed

Never much of a Pearl Jam fan...Eddie Vedder a bit full of himself
and I heard him diss the GD one time
thpt.

#FUCountVlad indeed

wattapriq

Grumpy Grumpkins wasn't impressed....

....yet remembers the EXACT date. Hmmm. Lol.
Btw. The senate voted unanimously to keep daylight savings time permanent. I can't recall the last time that happened and I'm all for it.
That's my political post for the week.

(GG looked up the date)

Whatevs

Still no GD
Its been weeks

Last 5

1. Buffalo Springfield- mr.soul
2. Aerosmith- one way street
3. A- lord of the thighs
4. Sabbath- a national acrobat
5. Deep purple- burn

Happy Belated

Happy belated to BOTH the Phil of Bombs as well as KeithFan!

Cool to share a BDay with someone so awesome.
Now go put on 3/15/90 and when they start singing happy birthday before Chinacat, you can pretend it's totally in your honor.

Be Well People!
Sixtus

Last 5

Merl Saunders and Melvin Seals - Live on tour
The Cobras - Caught live at the Continental Club
Don Leady - Cumbia wipeout: Blues explosion
Jorma Kaukonen and Tom Constanten - Embryonic journey
Mike Campbell and the Dirty Knobs - External combustion.

Pearl Jam

I've seen PJ three or four times, and I agree, If you like big rock, you won't be disappointed. Not showey rock but good old fashioned loud rock. I don't know many of their songs, but I have loved every show I saw.

Road trip bonus CDs to trade

Hey Now, Haven’t posted since last April. Thank you all for the constant entertainment and good vibes as I view often. I have been bitten big time by the GD on vinyl the last couple of years and really want to find the Venetia Sunshine Daydream release on vinyl. It’s outrageously priced on eBay and other places. I don’t have the much sought after 73 bonus disk or the 68 one, but I have the other ten bonus CDs. Anyone want to work out a fair trade? Does anyone have any recommendations for another site or thread for potential trades. Pm if interested,thanks. Since this is aDaves thread, I have to say that I really like the last two picks. 39 not so much. 38 and bonus cd from last year are sweet!

Annalee

Try dead dot net slash forum slash search-stuff

If it's too loud....

....you're too old.

Re:

What?

for something completely different

Have an opportunity to see Bobby and the Wolf Bros. next week, any one seem them on this tour, last tour? Price is ok and it's only a 15 min drive. Planning a trip to the box office today or tomorrow so any thoughts would be appreciated. Been watching the set lists and guests showing up on Bob's facebook page, looks like a fun time had by all. Could very well be my last opportunity to see Bob and be with the tribe one last time. captcha says traffic lights and they are all green, interesting.

The Cobras sound alright !

Simonrob - I had never heard of them before, apart from the fact that I think you may have referred to them in the past. Their name suggests vintage rocking music to me, though, so I checked them out online. They sound great...love that guitar sound, but they seem to tick all the boxes for up tempo blues and soul. If I ever work out how to verify my identity with itunes I might get me some.

The Cobras...

The guitar player was Denny Freeman. He also played on Bob Dylan's "Modern times" and "Bootleg series, vol. 8" as well as loads of Texas sessions. Top player. Up tempo blues and soul describes The Cobras perfectly. The album I referred to, "Caught live at the Continental Club" was recorded in 1981 in Austin, TX.

@BigBrownie...How was Taj?

Going downhill to the land of the midnight burrito...gonna see Taj Mahal tonight at the Musical Instrument Museum (Fabulous place by the way) and hit the music shops and a couple of Book stores I like in Phoenix where it will be 80 degrees instead of 48 degrees here at the edge of the world...It's the small things that matter after all...

@SIMONROB...

yes yes yes on Denny Freeman...one of my favorite recordings that he's on is a live one, "I'm Gonna Move" by Hook Herrera...great playing on a killer blues set....while we're talkin' unsung guitarists, don't forget Danny Gatton...another cat who could play ANY style of tunes and rock them...Danny's wiki page starts with "Daniel Wood Gatton Jr. was an American guitarist who combined blues, rockabilly, jazz, and country to create a musical style he called "redneck jazz"... Sadly neither of these fine musicians are with us today....

Keeping it (kinda) loud

Last 1:

Sex Pistols: Never Mind the Bollocks, Here's the Sex Pistols

a CLASSIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Nappy, Taj Mahal

As a sextet, the band is superb. Taj is backed by his old time rhythm section plus dobro, acoustic guitar, and Strat/ steel guitar. The man himself is unencumbered by guitar so he is free to let loose on vocals and harmonica. They did a nice Sittin' on Top of the World>C.C. Rider. When I saw him last fall, he was solo and seemed to be struggling a little bit.

He's still got game, and you will love it!

Bill Graham/Sex Pistols story

The Sex Pistols played Winterland in Jan of 1978, when they got off their bus to do a sound check on the afternoon of the show, Bill Graham was there to meet them. Sid Viscous was wearing a Swastika on his pants and when Bill Graham saw it he got really pissed off at Sid Viscous and got in his face and said " Is that supposed some kind of political statement. Take it off!" ! I heard the great photographer Michael Zagaris tell that story.

trades and bonus discs

I would be happy to burn any bonus discs or any discs needed to complete a set or show. I have a decent collection of officially released material.

No Future

I think Danny Gatton is incredible too - well, it's beyond dispute. That record he plays on credited to Robert Gordon, entitled "The Humbler" features the most mindboggling rock n' roll playing I have ever heard.

I don't think Sid Vicious knew whether he was coming or going. And sadly he was going. I saw them live, before he joined, among many punk bands from 1976 to 1977 - but I never did hear "Never Mind The Bollocks". Those first 4 singles were blistering though. I can remember long haired types being offended by them at the time - which I never understood. I was a long haired type myself - and I thought they were great.

fk Sid Vicious

looooooser

NMTB was recorded with Glen Matlock, as I understand

anyway, it is one rocking record. lightning in a bottle.

What to you call a bulletproof Irishman?....

....Rick O'Shea. 🍀

No Fun

He shouldn't even have been there. He wasn't a musician in any way. His only claim to fame was being friends with John Lydon and for beating up NME journalist Nick Kent and Old Grey Whistle Test presenter Bob Harris. An absurd and extreme example of how behaving badly somehow means you are "rock n' roll".
It's hard not to feel sorry for him though - poor bugger. He was a terrible influence, all things considered - other people starting acting like him, which made punk gigs a bit of a no go zone for sincere and peaceful hairies like me.

Danny Gatton

Isn't he the amazing guitarist who died young? Wait, that could be anybody. But what I do remember is some guy shredding on guitar while playing it with an open bottle of beer as a slide? Even some sloshing as I recall. Couldn't that get one electrocuted? Gone too soon, that one.
Cheers

Reno / Davis 82

What fun that run was! We stayed in Tahoe Friday night, skied Saturday, then went to Reno for the show. Rested in Tahoe Saturday night, and then it is a short two hour drive down the mountain to Davis. I taped both nights and I'm digitizing my masters to upload to the Archive!

Reno 82

Reno 82 was a blast! I also stayed in South Lake Tahoe at a friend's house and we had big party on Friday night with a bunch of friends. Fun city.

My jealous ass is drooling...

....pilgrimage to Lake Tahoe.

Trivia

on this day in 1968
Jerry and Mickey jam with Traffic outside KMPX studios on Green Street in San Francisco after stations staff goes on strike. According to reports Jerry sat in on Dear Mr. Fantasy before the cops broke it up. We could use a primal Dead box for sure.

re: Drool

VGuy if your ass is drooling, might wanna get that checked out.
Just sayin.

[initiates childlike incessant giggling]

Carry On with your Friday and Dreams of a Primal Ooze Dead Box,
Sixtus

Oh my

Last night's show at MIM was awesome...Taj and his band killed it...and I spent yesterday afternoon watching one of my fave movies "The Quiet Man" at a TCM special event...had a great time drooling over Maureen O'Hara (I'm old) on a big screen!...leaving my hotel in a bit for some fine fine superfine Mexican food at Carolinas...and then it's a day of record shops and bookstores before I head back up north to the edge of the world....

Ron Miles

Sad to hear of the passing of underrated trumpeter Ron Miles at 58. Miles (you couldn’t have a better jazz name!) was a frequent collaborator with Bill Frisell, and his “I Am A Man” LP is a tour de force IMHO. No one except Putin should die at 58, but real sorry to hear this one.
There has got to be one great band “up there”.
A great weekend to all!

Happy Holi

peace and love will win the day.

3/18/67 Winterland, official release please

A great show from start to finish, and it has a Golden Road, not many of those out there. If it takes more then 1 cd, they can fill it up with some extra from 1967.

THAT MIKE/Ron Miles

I an SO sorry to hear that news. I only got to see Ron in person twice. in 2007, he was with Bill Frisell at the Village Vanguard. And just before COVID, he played a show at the Kennedy Center in D.C.(The show was titled "I Am A Man" and Bill Frisell was in the band as well).
I only have 3 of his albums, but I like all 3. Perhaps I shall seek out the others(although I know some of them are rare and expensive).

New Zappa box being delivered today!! Sorry everyone, I'll be pretty busy this weekend.

Music is the Best!!

Mr Ones

That is great you got to see (hear?) Ron Miles play, and with Frisell, too! I always had him on my “to see” list. I thought he was a really passed over player, not flashy, but really had a tone that hit the spot. I think I have maybe 5 of his CDs, but he is on numerous Frisell ones (funny how some musicians can attract great side players on their albums, and Frisell is one of them - Ron Miles and Greg Liesz being two examples - likely due to his producer Lee Townsend). A tremendous talent lost, and if you happen on his discs, they are worth the listen.

Your words are so true Mr Ones: Music is the best!

NW Box Relisten

With all the exciting releases recently, I felt I had not given the NW Box a good listen in a couple years. So I've been working my way through the box, 73, then 74. What a great box! Really scratches my 73-74 itch!

Last 5:

Vancouver 73
Portland 73
Seattle 73
Vancouver 74
Rockin the Rhine 4/24/72 (thanks kiethfan!)
Greek Theater 5/13,14,15/83

I need to revisit those '73…

I need to revisit those '73 shows too Nitecat. Glad to hear a couple of people going to the Rhine show too.
I've been into those two "Doc" shows lately, where Jerry breaks out the Les Paul 8/14 & 8/15, 1971. The Other One from 8/14 is really one of my favorite post-primal versions, largely in part from the tone of the Les Paul; but it's also a no-nonsense wallowing of a rocker.

Hey Nitecat!!!

Seattle 5/21/74 was one of the things I took with me for my ride down to Phoenix yesterday...that 45 minute PITB just kills me...I also played St Louis 12/10/71 (just disc 3)...Had a great shopping trip today, loaded up on some new books, music and of course I brought home the to die for BBQ!!! My Honey just loves burnt ends! And aside from the previously mentioned tunes I played my last five would be

Sonny Sharrock - Seize The Rainbow
Keith Richards & The Expensive Winos - Live In London '93
Rod Piazza & The Mighty Flyers - Blues In The Dark
Los Lobos Live In Arden DE 3/11/22 (great sounding Aud from the Live Music Archive)
Taj Mahal & The Phantom Blues Band - Shoutin' In Key (Live)

One of the things I got today but ran out of time to hear is John Hammond - Wicked Grin Live In Bremen 2002, that'll be first thing tomorrow...and BTK I just DL'ed that 3/18/67 show you mentioned...that will be second thing tomorrow!!!

Nappy/ Rod Piazza

Nappy, I've seen Rod Piazza play a number of times, he's a great blues harmonica player. I actually taped one of his shows. Saw him play with George Harmonica Smith at the S.F. Blues festival in Golden Gate Park, it was very cool.

Blues for your briefcase

Great "new" Son House cd delivered to my house this morning - a previously unreleased show from 11/23/64. Top sound quality, and full of the raw incantatory power of latter day Son at his best. Like many musicians/artists I like, he seemed to exist in a dimension of his own. He won't come out to meet you - you have to go in to meet him.

Just like this little lot, that kept me amused yesterday
Tago Mago by Can
So Far by Faust
Carnival in Babylon by Amon Duul 2
Live at the Roundhouse 2/13/72 by Man
Live at the Roundhouse 2/13/72 by Hawkwind

Words of poetry often pop into my head at unexpected moments, and watching Putin address his fans yesterday on the box, I was reminded of these wise words, by the bard of Salford, John Cooper Clarke -
"What kind of creature bore you,
Was it some kind of bat?
They can't find a good word for you,
But I can.....
Twat."
With apologies to any bats that might be reading. And all those people waving flags. I wouldn't trust any society that didn't encourage and enjoy a culture of dissent within it's ranks.

Last 5

Nitecat, I listened to one of the PNW '73 shows last night. So last 5 then:

PNW Box Set - 6/24/73
Dick's Picks 35 - 8/7/71
Dave's Picks 38 - 9/8/73
Dick's Picks 30 - 3/28/72
Aoxomoxoa (Live Bonus Disc) - 1/24 - 1/26, 1969

Yes! Primal Dead box

3-18-67 is an excellent start. Why not another '66 show, 3-18-67, a '68 show and, boom! That's 3 CDs, so it could be a DP or a standalone. Talk about documenting the band's evolution! From advanced garage band to psychedelic hydra, a 66-68 compendium would create a killer document. And probably cause me to knock back a stem or two....

Talk about serendipity...

The OSF just posted in the past 24 hours, check it out. They are mowing through the unlabeled tapes now and just disccovered a June 1968 performance and it sounds like a scorcher. (Doh!)

Dave, could you ensure that this tape is swiftly released as a special project? Ala the 4-18-70 tape that came from Mtn Grrrl's closet?

This particular find may just well break the logjam on primal Dead releases. At least, the news itself is making my day. A new '68 tape found in the unlabeled reels Owsley left. Bad ass!

Primal Dead Box

Yes.

Yes

I knew they were going to find GD tapes in his stash. As for 1968, wow. Honestly, I lump fall 67 with 68. It's all good to me.

Hendrixfreak

Thank you for making my day. Owsley? 1968? As George Costanza said once, "It moved".
Now back to your regularly scheduled March Madness.

Already drooling over those 68 reels

A 55-minute Alligator>Feedback with notes of “First There Is A Mountain”!

Hopefully they Plangentized the reels, or will for release.

Then it's settled: '68 NOW!!

Wow, okay, I'm resorting to all caps and making wholly unrealistic demands. That's concerning, except, on the other hand, what do you expect from a foaming-at-the-mouth '68 fan? (Hand me a bib...)

The GD's portion of this newly discovered tape (no word on whether Musselwhite was recorded) runs ~110 minutes or two discs. (Yes, mentally, I'm already in the production phase for DP 43... ) Tack on another '68 show of <80 minutes and I won't need DP 44.

Okay, then, wrestling with my own thoughts after the OSF folks typed "newly discovered" and "68" in the same sentence. Busting out the officially released '68 shows later...

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