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    Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

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    PROUDFOOT, RE relieved to move on: Sounds about right.

    BILLY THE KID: Nice. I thought that Greatest Story does seemed special, too. It's got tight energy, but I also don't recall hearing a Greatest Story with that free-form a guitar solo from Jerry. I was definitely startin' to think I could go for a bit more fidelity on this show, too.

    THE GOOD OLE GRATEFUL DEAD: Yeah, man, from Playin' on, it's anybody's guess. The tape I Downloaded has that tracked as "Playin' >", "Drums >", "Space >", like you say. Playin' isn't really known for its drum solos, but I think I'd just keep all that as Playin' until they made a definitive move into The Wheel. I realize that no one else would ever do that. There's just Space all over the second set after Playin'. The Wheel disintegrates into Shakedown. That Shakedown back into Playin', though, eh? Definitely the stuff. You can hear Jer hinting at Playin' quite a while before they actually get there. Would not want to be responsible for seeding that. Where do I cut it?!?! :)

    Man, this second set jumps like a Willys in four wheel drive.

    Might as Well!!!: Went to a Dead show and a Jerry Band gig broke out! Yeah! Rocketing out the gate for the second set. Might as well. This show has a seriously stacked set list imo.

    Miracle: Damn. No chance to catch your breath tonight! Jerry’s soaring, then doing some crazy runs in the first solo. Pretty manic, really, just trying to make something happen. Nice ending jam too. A drummer seems to be losing his footing or a stick or something, but no one else… Whoa!!!

    Bertha!: I don’t think ANYBODY saw THAT coming, least of which the band. Whoever pulled the tempo back to something sensible is a hero, because that was about to set a record. Ohp, gonna get one of those big unison hits goin’? Not yet. Pickin’ up the pace again. Phil is not giving up on the big bang… unnnnn… not quite….hahaha. Phil’s still goin’ for it. The drummers are just hittin’ all ones like they're wired as hell. This whole second set is coming off with it’s teeth grinding. Crowd cheers an almost earthquake bass bomb, but Phill still can’t quite get everyone there. Test me! GONG. Got it. Memories starting to clear. Synchronization critical. Sounds like double kicks from the drums. What is this? The lets see how many notes we can play contest?

    Good Lovin’: Nice, seamless transition. Just, suddenly their playing Good Lovin’. Nice crescendos. Jerry’s boppin’ along for the solo. One of his more coherent solos so far. They seem to have a better handle on the dynamics now. This is a really, really nice performance of this tune. Bobby’s got just the right atmosphere here. He’s givin’ it everything, but not overblowing. This will be excellent if he keeps the rap under control. No danger of Bobby sellin’ the Brooklyn Bridge. Mickey goin’ crazy with some heavy percussion runs, but they are buried deep in the mix, might not even be goin’ through the main PA. Long cheers ensue. Well deserved. That was excellent. They are taking no prisoners tonight, but that really struck the perfect balance. Wouldn't normally gush over Good Lovin', but that was excellent. At this point, I think I’d almost be wishing for five minutes of tuning.

    Heart of Me. Ahh, nice farewell for Donna. Nice little breather for us, too. She sounds really good. Sounds like maybe Jerry missed a chord change and his fills are a little off key at one point early on. Nice little descending flutter from Jer that one of the drummers picks up on, adding some 16th high-hat cymbal to. Wow. Really nice. The ending was superb.

    Big Railroad Blues. Jerry came to rock tonight, that’s for sure. Goovin’ on the, which solo is this? They seem to have settled down a bit from the insanity that was the teeth numbing first half of the second set.

    Terrapin!: Sorta slips into the hall, almost without being noticed. Not the kind of thunderous greeting it would become accustomed to in later years. This performance seems almost quaint in its simplicity. One of the drummers continues to have happy foot. Cool guitar solo leads everyone out into open space as the various counterpoints begin to emerge, everyone expanding out into their own direction before drifting gently into a little space of equilibrium. Jer’s not quite ready for the big finale. He starts to play the melody that will bring everyone out of their trance, then decides to let the ride get a little more gentle as it drifts along. There it is. Not monumental, just recombining into a gentle reading of the last verse. Ahh.. Jer’s sweet old voice… Nice build up to counting stars, but Jerry’s vocal doesn’t quite soar. Finding the right mix of harmony without building up too dramatically and the finale has begun. This Terrapin seems, somehow, understated, but it’s difficult to say exactly what gives that impression. I mean, Mickey is off the hook as usual. Nice, Phil plays the signature melody line in a high register on the bass instead of Jerry, as Jerry continues to wiggle about with all sorts of lead lines. Mickey gets a bit too tricky for his own good, but that slightly clumsy moment doesn’t trip up anyone else.

    Playin’: Just where you’d expect “Drums” to begin, nice call. Not sure I really dig the four on the floor and the open and closed high hat feel for this tune. Don’t have any particular qualms with disco Dead, or the Disco Cowboy things they did, but it feels like it’s tying Playin’ down too much. And, as soon as I type that, the bottom drops out and they out into an open ended Playin’ jam with Jer out in the echoey distance working’ the envelope filter. Really nice atmosphere here. Jerry’s makin’ sure they don’t get back to the song any time soon. Little too much kick drum in the mix is sorta harshin’ my mellow, but always happy to see a thorough deconstruction of Playin’. …and it seems to be just petering out, but then someone adds some nice textures. Almost sounds like a Fender Rhodes, but I can still hear Keith plunking away, so maybe it was Bobby… Someone in the audience hoping they’ll play I Need A Miracle, forgetting that we already heard that, what seems like several lifetimes ago. Wow. Completely abstract, now. Oh, and there IS a “Drums” track, but this feels like Playin’ with a drum solo (ok, got it), but that Playin’ jam would have definitely qualified as “Space” in a latter day show, albeit out of conventional order. Still an array of all acoustic percussion. Do I smell a Not Fade Away out of the drum solo? I see that someone has tracked this as a transition into “Space”, but all I hear are drums, still. Not hearing any “Space” here. Oh, and just as I type that, Phil joins the jam with Jerry not too far behind.

    The Wheel: This setlist is a dream. Guess they didn’t have to save anything for the next night. This is a nice Wheel. They’ve really settled down into atmospheric mode after the totally outrageous start to the second set. Some cool tremolo picking from Jerry as the song breaks up.

    Shakedown: Starts off a little, not a little, really… er… shaky. Nice echo effect on Jer’s guitar. Drummers haul the tempo up from the crater left by Phil’s opening bass bomb. You really get the impression that they are not working with a set list tonight. Settling in a bit just before Jerry starts the first verse. Whoo! Oh, yeah. Dancin’ shoes on now. Such a contrast. First part of set two could barely stay on the rails, but now they’re so spaced out they forget to put their foot down on the accelerator. Not a complaint, at, all. I usually imagine Shakedown jams to be more rhythmic. There’s sill a hint of the groove in the background, but well, there it went. Phil just introduced a completely different groove. Getting loose like that let’s them slip into other things, which is, I think, what’s happening now…. or not… This must be the most abstract Shakedown jam I’ve ever heard. I mean, there are literally hundreds of tapes I’ve never heard, but still. Jerry really working out now. Super fast little tremolo picking like in the high registers. Drums have started driving again. Sounds like Jerry’s teasing a Playin’ Reprise. Did they even do that in the 70s? No doubt. Jerry is definitely hinting at the Playin’ lick. Either they’re taking the long way home or they’ve given up on it. Wow. Jer getting’ pretty avant garde now. Where. Is. This. Going?! Lovin’ it!

    Playin’ Reprise: Wow, Jer managed to get everyone on board for a Playin’ reprise after all that. And, damn, does it thunder onto the scene when it finally takes form. Still doin’ that insistent four on the floor thing that makes it feel kind of agro.

    Sugar Mag: Love how this comes up for air out of the disintegrating Playin’ reprise. This show has had something for everyone, from super high energy numbers to complete space outs. Even with the free form mood that took over in the second half of the set, this is nice and tight; moving right along. Everyone in. Bobby thanks Bill Graham.

    One More Saturday Night: Solidly above par. Wailing sayonara for Keith and Donna. I’m exhausted. What a show!

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    4.22.79 New Kid on the block....

    ....sounds like he fit right in and liked licorice.

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    2/17/79 4/22/79. Two great shows

    2/17/79 & 4/22/79 are two great shows that should be official releases. I went to 2/17/79, it was a benefit to stop environmental cancer called Rock for Life. The show started with the lights all on in the house as the Dead blasted out a killer version of Greatest Story. The version of Don't Ease Me In was great, they reworked it when Brent joined the band and it was never the same. I didn't make 4/22/79, it was my moms birthday, we were having a party. Charlie Daniels and Greg Kihn were both on the bill before the Dead. It's so nice to hear Brent's organ playing on Jack Straw for the the first time. The Dead seemed really pumped up and into it for the whole show. This show at Spartan Stadium wasn't to far away from where the Dead played their first show as the Grateful Dead, at the San Jose Acid Test on 12/4/65.

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    Wow. I remember thinking this was a really upbeat show considering it was Keith and Donna's last, but they must have given them one hell of a going away party. It is all goin' off in, like, every direction. I was exhausted just listening to it. This show goes from absolutely manic teeth grinding rockers and old timey tunes that barely hold it together to some seriously out there space jams. You'd have to label this with, like, three "Space" tracks if you were inclined to breaking things down as much as possible.

    I already had the Bob Menke AKG source in my music library, so I was listening to that. Not checking the set list. Can’t remember what it was, other than Donna gets to sing a lot, iirc. Here and there saw the song title pop up. Sound is pretty thin. Really need to crank it.

    Greatest Story: Usually like this as an opener. Jer seems to have carte blanche once his solo starts. Always a good idea in my book. Really searching and experimental as the four on the floor drives away behind him. Isn't this tune usually a little more cut and dry?

    What’s Bobby saying’ about technical adjustments? Had to reach for the volume control, but still couldn’t make it out.

    Don’t Ease: Damn sure am glad I left the volume where it was after that announcement. Love this tune. Haha. Oh, yeah, this must be when Bobby was learning to play slide on the job.

    Mama Tried: Love this one too! Seems like there might actually be a bit too much energy, if there is such a thing. Seem to be just barely holding’ it together.

    Mexicali: Despite the fact that it’s Keith’s last show, he’s been really prominent in the mix so far. Departing gift? Emotive delivery from Bobby. Jerry’s chorus vocals are really standing out too, for better or worse. This is pre-MIDI, obviously, but damn, Jer’s guitar sounded just like a trumpet for a minute there. Read somewhere about Branford Marsalis commenting that Jerry didn’t need MIDI to make his guitar sound like another instrument. This may be the proof. Can’t believe I have so much to say about Mexicali Blues!

    Friend of the Devil: Chill slow tempo version. Some weird polyrhythmic syncopation goin’ on. Jer starts signing on the wrong beat, but has it together before the first verse is over. Keith gets several choruses for his somewhat aimless piano solo, before giving way to a spirited solo by Jer, who’s playing fast triplets and fluttery phrases over the slow tempo before bringing everyone in smoothly for the last verse and a strong final chorus.

    Passenger: Did they ever do this again? Kinda relies on Donna. I don’t keep a Deadbase handy, unfortunately. Someone seems to get a little lost going into the “Only Game in Town” part. Jer slide solo. Bobby’s guitar is pretty much inaudible. I think the sense of roughness I’m feeling is due to both lack of rhythm guitar and Jerry trying to double on slide and normal fretted runs. It’s a tough juggling act. Pretty wild ride, this one. Stretchin’ out the second solo. Thought they were gonna end it in a jam, but someone brings it back to sing one more chorus before the ending, but it appears the memo did not circulate widely. Donna seems to be the only one who managed to get back to the chorus on time, but everyone recovers beautifully to end. I read that Phil wrote this song because he wanted to hear some raunchy guitar playing from Jerry and Bob. Well, he got it that time.

    High Time: Wow. That's not something I normally expect to hear. Nice, delicate interplay from everybody. Pretty difficult song, actually. Not surprising it didn't see much action on stage.

    Looks like Rain: Never really warmed up to this tune. That said, sometimes it gets stuck on repeat in my head and no matter what I do, I cannot stop hearing it… What the hell’s with those loud snare hits? lol My guess is that prankster Mickey, but who knows? Still laughing. Sounds like someone wants to pick up the tempo a bit. This is actually a pretty sensitive rendering of this song.

    Jack a Roe: Electric! There’s something else ya don’t hear every day. Man, this show is absolutely stacked with tunes I totally love. Again, can’t hear Bobby’s guitar at all. Keith has been reigned into the mix better at this point. Phil’s givin’ it his all playing in and out of Jerry’s first solo. Ahh.. there’s Bob. Welcome to the show, dude. Sounds like only one drummer at this point, too. Pretty sparse, but then again, as much as I love this tune, there’s not a whole lot for everyone to do.

    Lazy Lightning/Supplication: Period piece. Dunno why Bobby gave up on so many of his old tunes in favor of blues numbers, and Dylan covers. Donna sounds strong here. I believe I read that she and Keith actually wanted out at this point, so perhaps that contributes to the sense of jubilance (not a word apparently) here and Keith’s relative engagement. Jerry really, really, flying again. Float in’ like a butterfly, stinging’ like a bee. Phil senses blood and a jamming frenzy ensues. I guess if Bobby never cued them to go back into the song everyone else’d just go on forever like that…hmmmm…. It is so manic at this point, I don’t see how you could even dance to it. Spinners’d be achieving physical lift off, I think, depending on the robustness of their skirts.

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    Tonight on "Wha'appen?":

    My theory is the agreement to part ways happened, everyone was relieved about it, so they made 2/17/79 special.

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    2/17 is good stuff.

    Based on what I was reading, Donna mentions her & Keith discussing leaving the band through out the last tour. So maybe it was agreed upon between 2/11 in St. Louis & 2/17 in Oakland. Just speculating.

    In regards to Tracking, since Rockthing brought that up....
    I'm feeling it as Playing In The Band > Drums > Space > Wheel > Shakedown Street > Playing In The Band Jam > Reprise.
    The Jam after Shakedown seems to turn into a PITB jam at around 12:30.
    I like to give PITB as much labeling as possible, so that I'll pick that show out and listen to it again.
    PITB rules.
    (All of the above is killer! Listen to Jerry's voice in Terrapin & The Wheel segue is sweet, but that jam from Shakedown into Playing Jam is the stuff.)

    Alright, I feel I'd not be performing my obligation to the nation if I didn't mention the 4/17/79 Rehearsal tape as a potential listen before you blast off into 4/22/79.

    I gotta do it.

    Keep on Rocking, Rockers.

    PS - 2/9/73 was one of my first 3 bootleg tapes, it still gets me every time, so I'm with ya on that Jim.
    Mickey was right they were into Time Travel.

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    I remember dropping off a 10 pack of TDKs with an acquaintance. I got 4/22/79 Spartan Stadium, 2/9/73 Maples Pavilion and 06/29/76 Auditorium Theater - Chicago in the same box. They contained their share of new songs (with Spartan Stadium, not so much songs but a new keyboard player).

    I ended up getting a few more boxes from the same friend before geography and time brought that to an end. I have a crystalline memory of these first listens, like opening up another world of shows, songs and peeks into parts of eras I had no prior exposure into. Like Christmas morning..

    In my mind all the shows from that glorious 10 pack take up the same real estate in my frontal lobe. Funny how memories work, especially grateful dead memories.

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    DAVEROCK, JIMINMD, VGUY72, OROBOROUS, THE GOOD OLE GRATEFUL DEAD,

    Hey. Thanks for the shout outs. :) :) :)

    Used to listen to Infrared Roses A LOT. Threw it on a couple weeks ago. Hadn't heard it in ages. Dark Star into drums and space, yeah, definitely wanna think of that all as Dark Star. Another one would be the fairly frequent, Drums > Space > Other One, 'cause there used to be that drum solo bit between it and Cryptical.

    My mind changes every day, with or without assistance. I totally get the listening point of view of boards as though they are a studio album recorded live. That would be a fantastic concept for a band, actually. I mean, just 'cause /I/ think the vocals are too loud doesn't mean anything. There are some really cool experimental records out there that totally throw all the rules out the window. A matrix is difficult to do and even more difficult to do well. As you say, sometimes they can be really well done. Anthem is a pretty good example of a Matrix very weirdly done. :P I'm often quite satisfied by boards, my ears adjust to the source, I think, but I tend to wanna see what the tapers managed to get up to first. As you say, once the tapers section was established, we can start to pick and choose to taste.

    Never finished writing about the Cal Expo show. I most certainly was not there, so got nothing new to say in that respect. Being there, it goes without saying, really, changes perception/reception. First night sounds interesting, too. Cool set list, at least. Note taken.

    Standing on the Moon is probably my favorite Built to Last tune, and fits into the group of Jerry tunes that I really love, the glacial show stoppers. Speaking of show stoppers, Throwin' Stones, I think, must have been really important to Bobby, and maybe the whole band, but as someone else said, here we go again. I think there might be some psychology involved too, 'cause as soon as you hear the tune start, you know the show's all over but for the shouting. (literally!) It's a really wonderful song, but suffers from over saturation. As far as sources go, it was pretty close to a toss up between the Coniff and MK2 source. Had to choose one. I chose MK2.

    Keith and Donna's last show. Haven't had that on in a while. Memory agrees with whoever it was who said it was surprisingly upbeat. That's the impression I was left with. I read the same story about their departure being agreed in advance of this show. As someone else noted, however, who knows? With that said, I think I'll get to it.

    Again, thank you for the warm welcome.

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    Brent's first show tomorrow?....

    ....m'kay.

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    I like OroB's idea on progression.

    As for them knowing.. I think I recall Donna saying they did know and it was discussed and mutually agreed upon in a band meeting. Probably the Feb meeting you speak of. But as with all things GD, you really never know for sure and at this point no one is talking...

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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.
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4/17/82 sounds like a great pick! I'm going to wait to get home and stream it on the Big Boy.

Also, @ IceCreamKid - 10/31/91 is an all-timer! That should definitely be a Dave's pick! I also really enjoy the whole Boston Garden 91 run - one of which (9/25/91) was Dick's Pick 17. I'd like to see some more of those as well! I particularly like the night before, with LTGTR opener, New Speedway 1st set closer, then the Ship of Fools>Dark Star in set 2. Some good shows that late summer/early fall (the MSG run has some gems too!)

Peace

Then I read the soundboard shaming comment from the archive that enthusiastically pointed towards the Glassberg audience. So I pulled that one down, digitized and dove in head first.

I decided I like the Miller soundboard the best, but he has a point, many of the boards from this era sound think and lacking in dynamics. ..but once you get dialed in you adjust. I liked the Miller, it's the one seeded in 2019. I find often is there is more than on Miller, the later date wins the prize.

A good show, great shakedown, very good sound for the era.. interesting.

Not sure why I posted this.. perhaps an audience aficionado will have a different perspective. The comments from LMA are below.
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Subject: it's still only a sbd
the glassberg AUD is again the best recording for this great 1982 show. the description says it's an upgrade to all other sources. it should have the disclaimer that it's a sbd upgrade to sbds. the aud is significantly better. there is simply no reverb, sustain or fullness in these recordings. listen to the slow intro to nfa and the few slams brent gives the organ. it sounds thin and there is NO impact. i don't understand why these sources are hyped. please do yourself a favor and listen to the barry glassberg aud if you want to hear what this show sounded like live.

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Another enjoyable 82 show. Thanks for the nudge OB. I will have to go back and check out that Aud at some point Jim.
Good first set, nice It's all over now, Birdsong, Man Smart, Women Smarter. Second set bonanza with Shakedown Street, Lost Sailor, SOC into a really good Jam. Was that a duck in UJB? Love those IAONBB encores. Really good show.

Happy 82 Birthday Phil Lesh!
What a run.
Should we hit his 50th Birthday show today, 3/15/1990?

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Looks like our buddy Dennis was at this one? D, if your out there, any comments?
I was at first going to try the BG aud, but went with the Miller SB, which was decent.
Show was ok, started out with some ok energy, nice Sugaree, then cool they rolled right into El Paso, but you could tell it was a tad allegro. Good of Bobby to just go with it instead of some awkward drastic change up. From there it’s a average outing until an ok, but nothing special Bird Song, and what at the time was probably a cool set ending Women Are.
Now the Shakedown on the other hand was amazing. At first I was non plussed, but by the end, phew, beauty eh!
That Shakedown alone was worth the price of admission. Sailor Saint was ok, followed by a sweet jam sans Fatty with Bob and Brent laying down some cool leads in Spanish jam etc. Nice UJB followed by a sorta status quo ending capped off by an always welcome Baby Blue.
Certainly understandable how this gets overlooked by it’s more well know rowdy neighbors, and not perhaps dosent hang with the best of 82, but another off piste enjoyable show, and another notch on the proverbial “dead post”.

Ok, DV with the Philski biffday tribute!
3/15/90, Rollin!

EDIT: almost forgot! Hiya Otis, nice to see ya!
Yaassss that whole fall 91 run has been a real eye opener. I agree love 9/25, 10/31 is a top shelf show worthy of pickery, and 9/22 is another worthy candidate, but so far 9/26 is my fav, though I still need to hit the MSG run. Think I’ve only heard one of those so far but loved it.
Perhaps we need to hit 2/19/91 someday since Bolo brought it up?

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I like the Jack-A-Roe too.. always a treat, and It's All Over Now Baby Blue shined during these years. I never tired of Baby Blue and Brokendown encores. Oh, and that Shakedown was a keeper. Did someone mention 10/31/91? I'm gonna hit that over the next few days if time allows.

How are all you doing out there? Hoping for an end to the stupid war and a decent 2022. Where does the time go?

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Phil Lesh, what a stalwart. I have always thought Phil kind of flew under the radar at least publicly. What a bass player, can't think of too many in his league.
Man, I wish they had incorporated Unbroken Chain into the lineup before 1994.
And he was very instrumental in getting Dick's Picks underway and other releases like 3/15/90 and the Downhill from Here DVD, both in 1997. Look how far we have come since then. Here is to you Phil. Don't know where we would all be without you.

I am sure you have all listened to the 3/15/90 show many times, as I have. Still enjoy it every time. Love that China Rider and Terrapin with the Moc Turtle Jam. It is the jam out of Terrapin that always brings me back and of course Phil gives us a Tom Thumb Blues in the first set.

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I'm a King bee, baby......buzzin' round your hive.
I was thinking about a small talk , and hear some legendary acid test shit. It is close to 56 years ago. I might not have enough clout, but I was born 2 years later. Ha.

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So, I've abandoned my attempt to come up with a sampling of Dead tunes for newbies. Just too hard to accomplish without leaving gems on the cutting room floor - this after surpassing the 6 hour mark.

Going back to a modified 3 disc approach:

Disc 3 of DaP26 (11/17/71)
Disc 1 of One From The Vault (8/13/75)
Disc 3 of DiP18 (2/5/78)

If they don't "get" the Dead after listening to those, there's no hope for 'em.

If they matriculate to graduate-level Dead, I'll throw some 1968-70 their way and watch their heads explode. Probably should include "Steppin' Out" and "Ladies and Gentlemen" after that. And, there I go down the wormhole again...

Anyway, my small contribution to humanity.

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I am working on my 83 year old mom.

It's gonna include either the studio or Reckoning verion of Ripple for sure. Ideas welcomed.

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Hey Bolo24!!!

Your inclusion of 11/17/71 proves that you do indeed have impeccable taste in Grateful Dead...............

Rock on rockers!!!

Doc
Good taste is the modesty of the mind; that is why it cannot be either imitated or acquired.......

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The only time my mother ever commented favourably on the Dead I was listening to was when a 1972 show was spinning. "I like that piano playing!" she would say-every time.

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All good choices there Bolo, can't go wrong.

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Speaking of 11/17/71, what was in the water/kool-aid on November 17 every year?

11/17/71 - DaP26
11/17/72 - DaP11
11/17/73 - DaP5

Pretty stellar threesome. Also played in '68 (Seattle - no tape?), '78 in Chicago (incomplete tape), and Long Beach in '85.

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Not to mention the one-off acoustic set by "Bob Weir and Friends" at the Rambler Room in the afternoon before the Uptown show. I can't even . . . . Just an El ride away from the old homestead(s).

"I'm new here."

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Anybody have a pick out there?

I will offer up 11/5/79. A real gem, released as a digital download with RT1. 1.

So much good music to explore from 1979-1982. Would love to see them start digging in a little harder.

Here is an idea for Rhino and Grateful Dead Productions, start releasing some more music. You could start with 11/5/79, which has already been mastered. Nothing fancy required. Through it on the site for $25. I would buy it. Continue on with 11/6/79..

Enjoy the day all.

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Sure thing DV. Haven’t hit that one in fo ev a due to how much I like the next night!!! Lol.
11/6/79 is a top pick of the year for moi. Has been since I got a killer Reel to Reel sourced tape probably in 80 or 81?
Used to like to practice playing bass to it too.

I’ve been hitting free range shows at work, though I can’t call them full listens because of never ending BS at work these days. Like if I’m just doing actual work, in the zone, then the dead is awesome, but as soon as the noise of never ending BS that nowadays seems like status quo to get anything accomplished hits, the tunes become background noise, sigh…
But, I can still usually get a good feel by what catches my attention through the din, either noticeably good or bad, even through the noise. So Id recommend 2/19/91, but not as much as 9/8/91 and 9/9/91. But figured I had to hit it since Bolo brought it up. Bolo, Bolo, Bolo, lol, kinda like Jan Brady ; )
Man that fall 91 tour is overall pretty strong, but alas, it’s not 197? whatever, so I’ll probably be dead before we ever see a box of that. Bet that’d sell out fast!
Ok 11/5/79 rolling!
Califoooorrrrnnia! Knock knocking on the golden door!

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Just saw the video of Keith singing the back up on Midnight Moonlight and Knocking on Heavens Door... Fans of Keith will enjoy the Moog on these 2 also.... Only 4 musicians, Jerry, Ron, Keith and John.... They look like they are having a blast.. bob t

Just finished the encore of NFA... such a different feel...

Missed 3-15-90 for Phil’s bday due to watching hockey.

But, listened to 3-16 on the 16th, and have kept up on the anniversaries since. Played 3-15 on the 17th, and am finishing 3-14 now.

Due to time constraints on weeknights I usually do a few first set songs and then set 2. Have listened to every Drums/Space. Good stuff in those 2 Boxes/Terrapin Limited/Dozin’. May keep the trend going.

Yes, I’m also a fan of 79, 82, etc, but haven’t been keeping up with all of you on the POTD. But I do read the posts.

Going to process some torrent files tonight, think I’ll do some early Brent years.

To Rock my soul.

Was a way from PCs and Phones all day yesterday, pulled off a DHB Hat Trick.

5/4/74
5/2/70
11/30/80

With a partial from 3/19/90

A glorious day, man.. I am a bit out of shape. No rest for the weary.... What's on tap today? I've got a road trip, so almost six hours in the car. If it's in one of my devices it makes it easier. How about something from June 76? By the way.. It had been too long since I heard 11/30/80 the Fox Theatre. Holy smokes that sounded good and hit the spot. What a great release and something that shines from 1980. Dare I say I like it much better than the stuff they put on Deadset.

Hope all you peeps are having as good a weekend as possible and doing your best to avoid life's potholes and quagmires. Keep the peace.

This show for me, is a top tier show and release. Sound quality is A+. Both sets are jam packed with great music.
The Eyes Estimated Franklin's in the second set is outstanding. Lost Sailor SOC, good Sugar Mag and close it out with a rocking Casey Jones.
Really worth checking out. Nudge nudge Jim.
Interested in your thoughts OB.
What are you thinking next?? 11/6/79?
I am open.
Yes, 11/30/80, is a great show I have that in the normal rotation. Time for more.

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Day got away from me.

I’ve always dug both these 79 Spectrum shows since as I say I got those killer tapes BITD.
But the 6th has become sorta propped up to we’re I’ve neglected poor 11/5.
So it was really enjoyable to fire that one up yesterday!

Been jazzing out with Bill Evans and now Charles Mingus, but hope to sneak in 11/6 just cause, even though we’ve covered it etc. Have second set from 11/9 cued up after, but might have to wait on that as the other half is working and doesn’t usually dig walking into “that Bob Weird shit”, that’s “too loud” right after work lol.
Might try that 11/30/80, mañana?

Jim, happy motoring! Sounds like you had a perfect day yesterday: DHB, AND no cells or computers!

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Smokin’ China Cat>IKYR to open!
Phil Bombs here and there.

I’ve heard this many times but it’s not burned into my synapses because I never had it on cassette. So I’m getting a somewhat fresh listen.

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Hey, rockers!!!

Pick of the day: Academy of Music, March 22, 1972

Fond, fading memories of the hey day of my taping craziness in the early 1980s. Where were the boards of the March 1972 AOM run? We had the audience recordings, ranging from serviceable to cringe worthy. We had heard rumors that the shows weren’t recorded, or had perhaps been destroyed in a flood within the vault. In such circumstances, hard to separate fact from fantasy, questions left unanswered….

Lacking insight, we wondered, what were the 72 AOM shows? Open rehearsals for Europe 72? Revenue raisers for a rolling transcontinental European party? As it turns out, a wonderful run of shows serendipitously placed between the creamy smoothness of Fall 1971 and the seemingly laid back yet wonderfully intense Europe 72 tour.

Our questions were finally answered in October 2003, with the release of Dick’s Picks 30. More came with Rockin’ the Rhein in 2004 and Dave’s Picks 14 in 2015. They had been there the whole time, in all their musical gloriosity!!!

The whole run is great, but I especially like the second set of the 22nd because I’m a greasy Caution kinda guy. For many, this fell through the cracks, as they snuck it out as the bonus disc on Rockin’ The Rhein.

Rockers, dust it off and rejoice!!!!

Doc
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Never heard it, so I’ll check it out!

DV: I hit 9/12/91 yesterday.
Great energy, but perhaps a little ruff occasionally for release?
Definitely think fall 91 would make a good box: first of Richfield, say 3 or 4 MSG, 9/22, 24, and mos def 9/26/91 from bean town, with say 2 or 3 from Oakland, definitely 10/31/91!
A lot of good shows lurkin about that tour.

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Interesting show.. I rebuilt it using a combination of the Charlie Miller and the Rockin' the Rhein bonus disc.

That jam out of Caution is remarkable.

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Okay, OB 9/12/91, I will have to check it out. That MSG run is outstanding.

Interesting to me I have never really connected with the AOM shows, don't know why, but will give it another go.

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The Dead at Shoreline Amphitheater 9/19/2003. Perhaps the most memorable post-Grateful Dead show I've attended.

The archive has a good audience tape (only choice available). I can send the soundboard to those interested if someone tells me how to do it via email (or something easy).

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Hey Bolo, Thanks again for hooking me up a few years ago – that is indeed mighty fine. I think you should be able to upload 9/19/03 to a transfer site like Dropbox or WeTransfer. If you don't already have an account with one, let me know. I'll see if I have enough room left on my free Dropbox account to upload the show, altho all I can find at the moment is an AAC/Mp3 version.

3/22 was ok, by 72 standards.
Yes that unique jam outta Caution was sweet!
Shoot, forgot to check: does Pig usually play harp on Big RR?
And was JG playing pedal steel on LL Rain?
Good grease too.

Hit 3/23 for extra credit.
Liked this one better, and not JUST because of the Dark Star.
Seemed like they had more energy?

Not mind blowing but I’m glad I finally heard em.

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I have those CDs somewhere.. I need to dig them out. Being the completist, I purchased the 2003 tour by either my interest waned or I didn't make room in my budget for each and every 2004 show. I think I purchased some but not all.

Looking for this in a bit..

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I only have the Red Rocks shows since I went.

That’s a pretty big statement Bolo!
Guess we’ll have to check it out?

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Apparently Oro and I shared a show. It was so cool to be there 25 years after my first show. Phil called it out asking who was there 25 years earlier; big cheers. Also cool, and the first time I had seen it, was being able to order a CD of the show right there and then from a table set up by the entrance. A commonplace thing now I would guess. Great set list including a Mason's Children, a Dylan (Baby Blue), and a Beatles (She Said). Joan Osborne killed it as did Jimmy Herring.
Cheers

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I am giving up finding these CDs for now. I found the Gorge, Noblesville, Jones Beach and a few others.. so it must be somewhere. I checked out a few songs from the audience on the archive. Perhaps I will look a little harder later but I need to drop this for now, I have a few mega yachts in Italy and Greece that I need to move before they get towed.

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Yep, those were good shows.
Don’t remember too many specifics, just a visual of it being really nice out, and how nice it was to be with all the freaks again! Joan was cool too.
We were in VIP through my cousins business connections so hanging by the SB.
Think Bill Walton was there right in front of the SB towering over everyone, leaning way over the flimsy rope that separates VIP section, thought he was gonna fall over a few times lol.
Of course I might be mixing up my shows/years as I seem to recall he was always there!

Remember even less of 04? Maybe that was the year it got really cold and misty one night and the whole place was literally in a low cloud. Very ephemeral and psychedelic. The lights on and through the mist was awesome, would of been cool tripping.
Think they played Milestones and maybe Lucy in the Sky or some groovy Beatles? Hell it’s all a blur, but was very enjoyable! The shitty weather made the show as the band got inspired.
Can’t believe I didn’t ever see the GD there, sigh…

Only 09 show I went to was at the Can in D town. Don’t recall digging that one so much, but my show circumstances certainly affected my perception. You could almost feel that they weren’t getting along?

Hell, was fortunate to see dozens of Phil shows at the Philmore, the Rocks, Vail, The Dead at the Rocks in 03 and 04, The Other ones at Fiddlers a couple times, Futhur fest 06 and 08, D&C at Folsom several years, and perhaps my favorite, Furthur at several places including that cool little arena in Broomfield that reminded me of a clean, new, up to date Chrotchfester memorial. It really is a great place o be a head, just wish it didn’t take me so long to get here!
Saw most up until D&C for free!

You guys all coming for the first time this summer are in for a treat. HF may be crazy but he’s not wrong ; )
I’m just not sure if my schedule will allow or if I’m up for crowds yet because of underlining heath concerns, but who knows? It’s on my radar…
If the force wills it, I’ll catch up with all y’all somehow?

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Maybe spoke too soon about the MOST memorable post-GD show I attended. I'd also have to throw in The Dead in 2009 at the Forum in LA (5/9) and Shoreline (5/10 + 14).

First set at Forum: Viola Lee Blues > Bertha > Viola Lee Blues > Caution > Viola Lee Blues > Black Peter, Cosmic Charlie. Warren absolutely wrecked the place!

Shoreline shows were long and had a great vibe, including half-hour+ encores: St. Stephen > The Eleven, Touch of Grey on 5/9 and Scarlet/Fire, Deal on the 14th.

Also Furthur at the Sweetwater for 4 consecutive nights in 2013 with only 300 of my deadhead brothers and sisters. Big fun! Except for the guy behind me one night that talked incessantly about real estate. We had words.

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Ha, just teasing ya, hell Dave’s not the only one who likes to riff with the hyperbole. ; )
Hell this place is rife with it, for good or for ill, lol.
BUT, for you to put the ole English on the ball to me intimates that your memories are such to warrant recognition/mention. Or, the point was taken, er, now if I could only grow some more hair and cover that point up, uugghh.
Scarlet currently. Second set definitely starting to gel and take shape. Good pallet cleanse too!
And another, off piste, interesting pick many of us might never had met if not for our cool little freak oasis here at potdwd!
ONWARD!

Oh, Furthur at the Sweeteater…fo git a bot it!, sweet in deed, I woulda broke his knee caps (not really) poor bastid didn’t know who he was dealing with. I hear those NoCal Sharks can get pretty hungry!

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I managed to squeeze the show onto Dropbox. I gave up on tracking down the FLAC that Bolo sent a few years ago, so the files are AAC. Still, even those of you with youthful ears and kick-ass sound systems may want to check this out.

In 2003 The Dead were: Bob Weir, Phil Lesh, Mickey Hart, Bill Kreutzmann, Jimmy Herring – guitar, Jeff Chimenti – keyboards, vocals, Rob Barraco – keyboards, vocals, Joan Osborne – vocals

I hope this linque gets thru. If you have trouble, PM me with your email address and I'll email the linque back.

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Joan Osborne was great.
Saw the ATL show and Sammy Hagar sang with Joan on Loose Lucy.

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As Bolo mentioned below, this was the best show of the tour IMHO, and I felt lucky to have been there. What a first set, and the second set was no slouch either.

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Jimmy Herring + Joan Osborne + Days Between =

Let the words be yours, I'm done with mine

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Is it the pick of the day or another clue? I'm going with just the music, but.....

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Hey rockers!!

Pick of the day: Dania March 24 1970

Pirate’s World?? Arrrrr!!!!!!!!! Shiver me timbers matie, it’s the Grateful Dead!!!

I came across this while reviewing the February/March 1970 recordings. It’s just what I like with the Dead----raw, rowdy, and raucous!!

Dew to open----I like that position a lot. Short sharp sweet Mama Tried. Very jammy Good Lovin’. The Dead channel their inner garage band and turn Don’t Ease Me In into a crunchy rave up. Unlike Star Theater, this one does have a big jam sequence, although it sounds a bit condensed, as if the band was under time constraints, but it works well. And I must admit, my inner cowboy does enjoy the show-closer Me & My Uncle coming from nowhere out of the Lovelight……..

As with Star Theater, a very decent and listenable recording, but with “issues”. Probably will never be an official release because a big chunk of the Dew is missing, and there’s an edit in the Star. The powers that be seem to shy away from such things. Still worth a listen…………..

X (factor) marks the spot, buried treasure for sure……………..

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One of the more interesting finds on the Archive.

I stumbled on this show years ago, it's an odd little find. It was one of initial thoughts as an answer to Bolo's last riddle, squid.. but I went with a companion show instead, which also turned out to be wrong.

Still an interesting little show if you have never heard it. I think I might do it again..

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and see what tomorrow brings…
Maybe mañana, no tunes today : (

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Hey OB, looking at 9/11/82, West Palm Beach FL, for tomorrow. I think Bolo would be up for this show.
Fresh Miller transfer from February 2022. If Dave won't give us any 82, at least Charlie will.
My god, we need some release news on this site. I think the last announcement was in December for Dave's 42, which should be hitting mailboxes in about a month.
It is almost Oberon season!

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only time Scarlet Begonias>Fire on the Mountain>Lost Sailor>Saint of Circumstance>Terrapin Station played. Great Scarlet >Fire, highly recommended.
Went to the next nite in Lakeland, 9-12-82, check out the post drums on that one, Wheel>NFA>Morning Dew with Jerry belting it out in his sad voice. Another great Florida run. Don't know why, but in the 80's, Florida seemed to bring out the best in the band.

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Looks like I missed an 82. I will get to this tomorrow.

I did finally get and finish the Shoreline 03 Dead Pick. A really good show. The Peggy-O of all things gave me goosebumps this time. Lovely Joan.. what a great addition to GD music.

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Looking forward to that Shoreline 2003. From '98 to '03 I saw some great shows, all on the Front Range except for the '02 shows at Alpine that at the last second I had to fly back to cause that was the home turf. The Other Ones, Phil and Friends, The Dead, they were all excellent bands. One of my most beloved musical moments was Phil and Friends at Red Rocks 7/6/01 when they segued into Blues for Allah in the midst of Terrapin and I looked over at my friend in wide-eyed-huge-smile wonder - youhavegottobefuckinkiddingme : )))

I saw the first 4 of the 5 Dead shows in Red Rocks 2003 - I think they were the last "shows" I saw until Wrigley this past fall (crazy to me that 18 year gap, my goodness, WTF). First show, 7/6/03, was outrageously good. Joan killed it. Especially Days Between.

edit - totally forgot, the first "post Jerry" show I saw was Merl Saunders in Colorado Springs maybe winter '95, in some little bar, and that's when I heard my first Dark Star.