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    Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

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  • The Good Ole G…
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    Good stuff!

    JIMINMD - Make Believe Ballroom pretty “famous” early bootleg record of 8/13/75 from the Amazing Kornyfone Record Label.

    I think they fetch a pretty penny from collectors these days.

    Cool info here - http://www.gratefulseconds.com/2018/02/?m=1

    Fun Discussions tonight all.

    Good info and Good tunes tomorrow.

    Until then be well

  • DeadVikes
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    Yes, this is the ticket for tomorrow.

    Oroborous, appreciate the information.

    Sounds like I am not in the league of your customers, which is okay. I am more of the pub links player. Anyway, at a minimum it sounds like I should invest in a new router and modem with the extra Wifi connections around the house.

    Do you wonder why I like the old school wired system playing CDs.

    Do you know how much time I have spent on the phone with Sonos customer service??

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    Aren't we all geeks in our own way? I couldn't help but read that whole post, much of it lost on me.

    But it lead me to a conclusion. Correct.. Oro, you are not an IT professional. ..but perhaps a bot. not a Russian Bot or a Facebook Bot.. our own SF peace bot.

    I mean that in the most respectful way, hope I did not offend. In a way, Oroborous.. you are all we have in our freak fight against the tyrannists and enemies. We need our own bot.

    Sorry for the diversion. Again, meant with the utmost respect and hopefully a perceived tread of good nature and humor.

    Cousins, thanks for that info.. So that's the source of that language on my tape. Does anyone know the source? The Great American Music Hall is not called the Make Believe Ballroom, right? Was this just a clever name for a bootleg LP to get it past the TM and Copyright folks? There must be another half of this story.

    I guess it doesn't matter if we don't solve this riddle, but how on earth did that LP get it's name?

    Nite all.

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    To those not interested, please skip and except my apologies

    First, disclaimer: I am not a IT, computer, or network professional, in fact, when it comes to computers I’m way behind the curve. That being said, I am a custom AV professional which usually requires installing commercial grade networks in the home. I’ve done hundreds over the years. So I have a lot of experience using many AV products both wireless and hard wired. Why, because when you have home automation, Lighting, HVAC, Pool/spas, Security, AV, gaming, WiFi and more on one home network that’s a lot of bandwidth, no matter how many MBS/gigs your paying for. Your network is the foundation that all your net gear lives and depends on. You wouldn’t build your house on a cardboard foundation so you shouldn’t build your network on a insufficient one either!
    SONOS: you are correct that one of the main selling points for Sonos or any of the “wireless” audio products is reasonable stability over WiFi (of course always depending on service. Just like your water main the pipe is only so big)...the biggest of all reasons Sonos is ahead of the pack is their user interface. So with decent service you can certainly enjoy over WiFi, but like you mentioned if everyone is on line at the same time it’s like having every water facet and toilet going at once...,the pipe is only so big...streaming of course is the biggest drain of all.
    I won’t get all in on the phsycics, and I’d probably do a lousy job, but generally, a properly hardwired connection is going to be better: faster, less latency, more BW, and certainly more stable/reliable. I’ve seen situations where the IT guy had me disconnect a HW feed and use a meshed WAP, but that’s mostly because the WiFi gear was new, robust, and of course somewhat oversold lol. The wiring and switches were ancient crap....I may have been trying to use only four conductors which limits you to only 10/100. But that’s only happened a few times in 13 years!
    By comparison our nets are at least 1-5 gig capable, but our bigger new jobs have been 10 gig to try and future proof (as much as that’s possible anymore). Often these start getting into fiber, But I digress...
    Also, even if it’s not that time of day when the whole neighborhood is sucking on basically the same pipe, I’m sure you’ve still experienced huge speed drops, latency, and even severe buffering etc when the whole family is using all those wireless devices. So the more things you can take off WiFi and hardwire, the more those HW devices will benefit from the “bigger pipe” that the wire usually provides, but at the same time, the devices that are still over WiFi will also work better because removing streaming devices off essentially provides “more pipe” for the remaining WiFi devices.
    It’s all about the pipe baby: bigger, faster, stronger...
    The last job I was on before the VID was over 10K Square foot house. It has Comcast gig plus service, using an upgraded surfboard modem, 4 port commercial Router, 4- 48 port Poe switches, Ruckus Zone Director to air traffic control bandwidth where need via the 16 commercial grade Ruckus WAPs (all hardwired on cat five or better). All critical infrastructure gear is on Bluebolts for remote ip monitoring and rebooting.
    Besides the 16 Crestron hardwired touchscreens, there are probably a dozen iPads for control of all house subsystems. The 20+ cameras are now all nest over wifi which is a huge bandwidth drain, but that’s what the owner wanted. Throw in all the personal devices of the owners and up to 15 guests, and six in house servants and five large equipment racks of gear (even amplifiers now are ip controlled) and that’s a shit ton of bandwidth. A normal home network would not function!
    Obviously I assume most folks don’t have those needs, but the infrastructure methodology is the same.

    So for a “typical” house (there is no such thing but for simplicity)
    - Best pipe (service) you can get. Preferably on fiber or Coax if possible.
    - Buy your own upgraded modem. For a couple hundred bucks that you’ll make up by not renting one.
    - Research and get best Router you can
    - Use strategic placement of WAPs over full cat 5 or better. Six is the norm, but we sometimes pull cat 7, 8, and/or fiber.
    This depends on how many floors, walls, building materials etc, square footage. Like much of this too much is better than not enough. Think brick shithouse from BITD...
    Usually the cat for your phones all homerun back to your headend or main distribution point. Depending on where that is and if there’s adequate power nearby, you can place all your gear there, or if possible, place a robust net switch there. Obviously for switch size you’ll need to figure out how many devices you’ll want to H.W. depending on how May wires you have. It’s usualky much easier to have at least enough Poe ports to power WAPs (make sure you’ll have enough wattage). You can find all kinds of wall trim to terminate similar to how your phone or net are trimmed on your walls, or if long enough wire just terminate RJ 45 etc. You’ll need to terminate all the ends at the net switch. A decent cable tester is a real help to ensure proper terminations. Inevitably you’ll need to test from end to end using all wires and splices/connections.
    So you have your service feed to your modem, a net cabl from modem to router, router to your switch or switches, and your WAPs hardwired to your switch (s). If done properly using good gear (find gear with specks way above what you think you need, it can be money well spent, remember, your trying to build a brick shithouse, not a cheap tent! ), you can make your network more robust, stable and therefore enjoyable! It’s like buying a car with a big engine, you don’t akways need it but when you do and you put the hammer down, you’ll be glad you have that headroom.
    Obviously many folks dont need so much, but even a additional switch with hardwired devices out of your provider modem can help when supply is getting stretched thin.
    No matter how big or small or what your needs are, always hardwire when possible! That’s what I’ve found works best, cause it’s all about the pipe!
    Hope this is understandable and helps. Sorry if I didn’t explain well.

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    Jim, my first exposure to it was the Make Believe Ballroom LP on the TAKRL label

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    in the queue...

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    Made that run too.. I think there are several of us here that must have shared a fatty or a bowl at some point over the last 35 years.

    So are we doing One From the Vault next? My first tape of this was labeled "Make Believe Ballroom." Not sure where that came from or how common it was.

    So I decided if we are doing 3/24/90 I would re-order it and do it right.. which is where I still am. I did roast a good amount of kind Ethiopian Coffee and unfortunately spent a ton of time on the phone with USPS. Back to finally getting my Knick exactly perfect. Whoever mentioned the Mind Left Body.. my two favorites are 10/18/73 and 3/24/90. On the latter, Jerry and Brent are in the middle of a serious mind meld. It's amazing and Brent really does fill in the gaps, almost exactly perfectly. Always one of my favorite late era shows. Amazing.

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    8/13/75. "Good evening, we welcome you...

    ...On behalf of the group"

    Pretty much have this whole show memorized, as it's always in heavy rotation. What the heck, in the interest of supporting my Deadhead brethren, of all genders, races, political leanings and creeds, I'll cue it up tomorrow and play it LOUD on the big boy system!!

    Unless my wife is home, then it's headphones.

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    Great choice, I was able to listen to I believe everything except Desolation Row. Still have my Dozin copy from 1996 and the first Spring 1990 opening tunes. Top shelf!

    I will throw out another 90s release for tomorrow, 8/13/75, One From the Vault.
    I have two copies of this, the original 1991 release and the remastered release from 2007. The upgrade is awesome.

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    ....my radar pinged.

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Definitely worth a listen all. I made it to drums today. Will finish it up tomorrow.
What a show so far and the sound quality from the new Miller is outstanding.
PT Barnum, that is cool you were at the next night. I will have to check out that show as well. Any good stories about your experience with 9/12/82?
When was the last 82 show released? I am thinking Dick's 32? But my memory isn't what it used to be. 18 years ago? Come on!

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Besides 30 trips, I think it was Road Trips Vol. 4 No. 4, the Spectrum.

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Jim, yes, thanks for the reminder on RT 4.4 from the Spectrum, how could I forget that! Love that release. So, 2011, it is time.

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Another good show by the boys with Jerry on point and in fine voice. We were quite wasted on some good blotter and I remember really having a blast at this show. It was a rocker and the blotter was a bit speedy so off we went, there were a lot of folks trippin that nite. I do remember that this was the last time that the Dead played Lakeland, it being in Polk county and tptb thought it was a good idea to build a complex to get some of that concert money from rock fans, but they didn't take into effect that back in those days, people took drugs and got high and tried to have a good time at shows. That did not go over well with the repubs and religious right in the town that was labeled "christian" and had crosses along the road when you entered the limits of the city. Very red Polk county was and still is as far as I'm concerned.
There were so many undercover cops there that Bobby made an announcement that the person sitting next to you might not be who you think they are and to be careful. As the show was occurring, the cops went thru the lot with dogs and sniffed out drugs left in folks cars, so when you came back out, they were waiting for you. A real bummer was had by over 200 people who were caught up in their little "sting". The Dead never came back to Lakeland after this show.
It wasn't long after this that there was an Iron Maiden show at the venue where they did the same thing and busted over 500. That may have been the last time rock bands played there as it had gotten a real bad reputation as an uncool venue. The police just waited for a show, swooped down and robbed a bunch of folks, plain and simple.
Like I said, check out the second set, it's a rocker.

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Been walking the plank!
Finally got that lil Pirates show yesterday.
Sometimes really like those little shows.

9/11/82 Rollin now…sounds good so far (Duprees!)

9/12/82, sounds horrible, scene that is, I’ll have to check out the show?
If I was starting to trip hard and Bobbie came out and said that, things could of potentially gotten very weird, THE FEAR!, and not in a good way, OR! we might have started laughing our arses off? Such was the psychedelic life.

7/6/01: Mr BC! Thanks for the jump start. I seem to very vaguely recall that show. Looked it up and I was definitely there, physically at least lol.
Do you recall what the weather was like? Yeah baby, that’s what I really dug about these early post Dead gigs: they played all the good old shit many of us never got to see/hear! From Viola, the 11, Allah, sheeeooot, all kinds of good stuff! It’s easy to forget that theres been so many years of ridiculous music AFTER the dead!
Good times for sure, bet we were at many of the same shows!
Yeah that 7/6/03 must have been good as I actually bought that show, the rest I got copies.

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yeah Oro - I generally loved what i saw and heard, and if i didn't it was likely my own head space at the time. The first show that brought me back to that "show" space, in glorious fashion, was The Other Ones at Fiddlers Green as part of the Further Festival(?), 7/19/98. Streaming a board source on the Archive right now. I think Mystery Box and Rusted Root were on the bill too. The way that set lists and were reinvented and long unplayed gems suddenly were a possibility, largely thanks to Phil early on, made for some really fine music and fun times. So the Other Ones opened it up with Playing > Watchtower > Scarlet > Fire (Mickey Hart style!), Jack A Roe - what's not to like??!! Had totally forgotten the band line up - Mickey, Phil, and Bob, also Hornsby(!!), Kimock(!!), Molo(!!), David Ellis on saxaphone(!!), and Mark Karan on guitar also(!!). FFS - all awesomeness! During Down the Road Again I watched a huge image of Jerry's smiling face appear in the clouds behind the stage and judging by the roar of others in the crowd it wasn't just me. A total blessing by Jerry. Sweet little Love Supreme bit by Hornsby and Ellis afterwards leading into White wheeled Limousine.

edit - so far surfing the net I still can't confirm that Mystery box played that day, but I guess Jorma/Hot Tuna was there! I feel like I saw Mystery Box at some point and I thought this show but I guess not - maybe it was hearing Down the Road Again that triggers that (false) memory.

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1968! 1968! 1968!

Time for a Dave's Pick for this amazing year of primal Dead. Looking for 10/12 and 13 (the obvious choices).

Which other shows do you deem release-worthy for '68?

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10/12 & 13 seem like they have to happen right? As for other dates I'll leave that to the experts here.

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Unfortunately I’ve barely tipped me pinky in 68 YET!
It would not be appropriate for a neophyte of this region to do so.
But I LUVE the 7? official shows I have, and the few others I’ve heard recommended by our stalwart crew, probably, particularly by our long lost guru GOGD!
Primal Dead! Bring it!!!

BCROW: I was at those shows you mention. Feelings of hope, like, it’s not the same, probably never be, but it’s alright! Let there be songs…
I worked western half of 96 Futhur Fest from Pittsburgh to the end in Phoenix and Mystery Box was killing it on that tour. So perhaps your thinking of 96? Though I was there in 98 as a civilian. Remember hanging round the Bear at that one. He was selling his jewelry.

9/11/82 and 9/12/82.
Good, but perhaps not great shows?
Enjoyable no matter what hairs ya split.
Good sounding, interesting look at Brent’s evolution, and cool early West LA with still forming lyrics.
Women Are still kinda a newish big deal. A newly restrung Duprees, cool second set sequence on 9/11, don’t recall any mention of Micks Bday? Ah well he’s just a drummer lol ; ) just teasing Mick!
Didn’t hear that Bob PSA about narcs etc?
A couple more notches on the ole lip stick case.

bank all your cards on my memory old buddy, lol.
Yes Mystery Box was on 96, but I don’t remember much about 98 so can’t recall lineup?
But I know Bear was there (probably in 98), don’t think he necessarily had his own booth, but was at ?? somebodies booth and was showing off his stuff, as he usually was the few times I saw him.
Could have easily been one of the 2 Other Ones shows I saw there in 98 & ??…
Not sure I had a “conversation” at all, think I mostly just hung around and lurked.
More interesting and ya don’t wanna be “that” guy etc. I mean I probably wasn’t in the kind of shape to actually articulate principles of sound etc at the time anyway, which is what I would have in a more appropriate setting.
But yeah, that’s already 20+ years since all that, and that was the start of phase two!

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Pick of the day: March 16, 1968 Carousel Ballroom - San Francisco, CA

"New and improved" Miller remaster just hit general circulation. Raw, powerful, remarkable....................

Rock on!!!

Doc
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Doc,
What’s the ID # of that Miller?
I was at etree and losslesslegs last night but didn’t see anything new.
I have 109944.miller and 9388.vernon.
Thanks.

For anyone who collects video, there were two new/upgraded shows.

gd1979-07-01.bma-bhp.dvdf

gd1986-12-28.aud-upg.bhp.bd
The audio is a Miller from 3-8-22.

Haven’t watched either yet.

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gd1968-03-16.carousel ballroom.sbd.156159.latvala.gans.eaton.miller.flac16 - ee299e246484307653afff5db181e16723ec472f

Just checked, currently up at Lossless Legs..............

Rock it!

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There's a bit of talk about 1968 on Workingman's Pod episodes 3 and dipping your big toe into 69, Episode 4. In fact.. episode 3 is all about 10/12/68.

Check it out.. rss dot com / podcasts / workingmans-pod

Full disclosure, I sort of make a cameo.

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I actually downloaded 3-16-68 last night but forgot.

And I wasn’t even drinking.

Just transferred it to a microSDXC and am commencing listening.

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I just went with the existing Miller on relisten and it sounded pretty good.
Cool little show!
Fully dug.
Thanks Doc!

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Alligator > Caution

wowza - luv that combo every time

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... /details/gd1968-03-16.156159.sbd.latvala.gans.eaton.miller.flac16 is now up on the archive PLUS you can download FLAC & other lossless versions (for now anyway).

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I’ve been listening to the new Miller 2/14/88. Great show. Lots of energy!

Perfect. 2/14/88 Oakland. Thanks Adedhed68, I haven't listened to much 1988 lately, so it will a good change of pace. Diving in soon.

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Hit the spot for me. I hope you enjoyed it DeadVikes :-)

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Hey thanks Adedhed68 for the pick.

Second night of the start of 88. Wow, the memories! Anyway, I wasn't able to locate a new Miller, but I did listen to one from 2009. This one sounded decent. Always love a Franklins in the first set. China Rider, Terrapin, Stella Blue, Mighty Quinn.Enjoyable show. Thanks man, keep them coming.

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Funny.. I was in the mood for this song and see it pop up here. I haven't done this show yet, hopefully tomorrow.

I got sucked into 5/18/72 today.. under the radar for E72, man this one was fulfilling and I'm not quite finished. I never noticed just how good the cowboy medley in the first set was. Well, a cowboy blues sammy (El Paso, It Hurts Me Too, You Win Again). Jerry's tone really shines. I can't think of a better way to describe the sound he gets than tonal purity. Such a good show, and the first Dark Star > Morning Dew which is up next. I'm not sure if this is sacred ground, but it comes pretty damned close.

About a month ago, I posted my work-around for crapatcha. Select the "Stay Logged In" option when you sign in. Well, they did away with that shortly after I posted that so now I am crapatcha'ing like a mad man. damn you Dead Net and your silly crapatcha! Damn you all to hell! (said in my best chuck heston accent)

Back to whatever it is you were doing.. sorry for the distraction.

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on some of those "post jerry " shows I saw. dug out the discs for 7/6/03 and 7/10/03. I think I purchased first 4 nights of that Red Rocks run but those are the 2 shows I can find right now. Disc 1 for 7/10 landed in my hands first so in the player it went. now 3rd or 4th go around (sort of the way I listen sometimes). What a gas. Fantastic power entry (as it should be) for Help on the Way opener. Having Joan on vocals for that tour was such a treat. What a great vocalist. I think it energized the rest of the band in a particular way. That 1st set has a ripping Hard to Handle with Joan and Bobby trading verses. Remember thinking how very awesome it was at the time. Great to hear another Down the Road Again from Mickey. Set closes with a Dark Star v.1 with Phil/Joan/Bobby singing lines > jam > Bertha, and it's a totally kick ass Bertha with Bobby and Joan singing. Damn fine stuff.

Also while driving I dug out DaP 20 Boulder 12/9/81. Still haven't gotten to Disc 3. That seems to be a release that doesn't get much love and it certainly didn't from me when it was released. I saw the Rosemont show 12/6. Remember getting a snail mail letter from my friend out in the springs who was at the Boulder show. And he loved it. Yeah there's a big stumble in Jack Straw. And some WTF tape gaps in the SBD, but yeah I can hear why my friend dug that show.

Onward my good friends : )

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We like it here, we are going to come back. But they never did. The CU Events Center. Good show here Bluecrow despite the weird Jack Straw, and the occasional audience patches through out the release. Whatever it takes to release more 81, I am for. When do we get the next 81?

5/18/72, this was definitely one of the many shows I tried to obtain before I got the box last year. And it is a really good show. I think I will have to get it going today Jim.

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yeah DV, I'm all in for more '79 - '82. lot of hot shows in those early Brent years. Lest I forget, all in for end of the Keith/Donna era, some of those early '79 shows are damn good and for sure they've got to release 2/17/79 someday - that show is killer.

almost finished with 7/10/03 - really fun show. Second set opened with Bobby on acoustic playing Blackbird. As luck would have it I saw the first of 2 GD version at Alpine in '88. That was a spontaneous and super special awesome moment to be treasured, despite the naysayers. wrote about that show, in the context of that run, as guest post for GDHour years ago. So yeah it's fun to go back to some of these other one shows. Jerry was there in spirit for sure big time, and there was a lot of excellent music being played. edit - there are places in 7/10/03 second set that Herring's guitar sounds to me like a soprano sax and I Iove it. Great Franklins end Set II to book end show opener. And Loose Lucy for an encore just kicks it.

yet another edit - forgot to add that several days ago listened to the Warehouse show from the night of the bust 1/31/70, plus material from other nights of the run. There is a note here at dead dot net that the acoustic set for 1/31 was spontaneous and had its origin in equipment issues. I'm wondering if the acoustic/electric shows that began regularly shortly thereafter were already planned or if the fun they had playing acoustic 1/31 led them to reimagine their show structure.

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there's a few, 4-1-80 is good, in fact, most if not all of these April 1st shows are good to great. 4-1-94 is excellent, so is 95, check them out.

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Saw her last night, her second show after a long pandemic hiatus. I hadn't seen her for years, and I was blown away that, at age 72, her voice is still as clear and soulful as ever. Maybe better. And she hasn't lost anything on the guitar, either. Band was tight, just a very enjoyable evening. Catch her if she comes to your town - you won't regret it.

Next up: Gov't Mule in June, Tedeschi/Trucks and Los Lobos in August.

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Damn, would love to have been there. "Funny thing" was that back ca. 1980 she was "the" concert at my cornfield college. Saw the show but had no clue who she was and nowhere near the appreciation I would have had a few years later. I think she had Pinetop Perkins playing with her - not on tour with her but in the area. I would def want to take the John Deere to see that show again. A favorite Jerry Band tape BITD was her playing with Jerry back in 1987.

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If that was at the Greek in Berkeley, I was there. I believe they did "Think" and "Knockin' on Heaven's Door" together (?). At one point they were trading licks, until Jerry went off and she did the "I'm not worthy" bow. Fun time.

yeah - that's the show! lucky you! had a killer audience tape. been a good very long while since i listened but memory is that Think was absolutely crackling.

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I was there, fun show. We were up on the Eel River the day before, to see Garcia Acoustic & Elctric bands, what a cool scene that was!

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I saw her play on a couple of songs with The Other Ones 8-25-00 Shoreline.
Had great seats right in front of Hornsby.

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Every year on this day we like to give a big round of THANKS! to our Den mother and logistical nightmare nurse, Marye!
So from all us fools to you, THANKS FOR ALL YOU DO!

Bluecrow: I’d love for them to do something with 1/20 & 1/10/79! Make a good Dave’s with all of one and part of the other (of course I’m extremely biased) and supposedly there’s no tapes in the vault? Maybe someday they’ll show up : (
And I fully agree about 2/17/79. I know Billy the Kids been lobbying for this and a Brent’s first combo for some time. Think that would be a neat release, call it “new ones coming as the old ones go”
Alpine 88? Interesting thoughts. We didn’t go that year because it was such a shit show in 87. So when we heard at Buckeye about the Bird etc we were obviously bummed. But everyone we talked to said it was too damn hot, the scene was too crazy, and the Bird was cool to see, but not mind blowing? Always interesting on folks take on these things.
Glad you had a enjoyable time! That was a weird summer for me: broke my ankle a week before tour. Buckeye, which I now think was a pretty good show, was ruff being on crutches and still hurting pretty good in spite of all the analgesics lol. Pittsburgh I don’t recall the show much except we sat up in the back outta the way which was good for the foot. Also remember Gentlemen Start Your Engines and thought it was interesting. Cool scene there too that day.
Toga I had to sell my ticket as I needed to go to the hospital for tests (long story). Still bums me out about that whole situation. Crotchfester was good for the times and a crazy scene, oh, and that fun Green Onions!
Oxford was awesome, all the way around! Decent, sort of under the radar tour.
81Boulder: it’s not that I don’t like this show, it’s that there are many other ones from this tour I think are better!
Dane, Rosemount, and especially Indianapolis are all great shows! So another case of Dave going to the right city and street, but the wrong house, imho anyway…

BONNIE RAITT: alas, don’t recall ever getting to see her. Another force of nature that came outta nowhere and left a smoking crater. The only gal living at the House of Bluelights (our good buddy BOO469’s gal at the time) was a huge Bonnie fan and turned me on. Think it was that first album that just blew my teenage brain away! Man I miss that. It still happens occasionally, but not like back then when people would regularly turn you on to stuff that would fry circuits for life!

4/1/80: not only our pick of the day but the 42nd anniversary of our good buddy, and fashion guru, Dennis here at deadnets first show! Happy happy joy joy to big D!

For extra credit check out the 4/1/91 show ole Conekid turned us onto awhile back if you haven’t done so!

Speaking of 91, after I hit that decent 2/14/88 show I’ve been rehashing the Richfield fall 91 shows at work and all except one of the MSG shows. Definitely a nice box worth of shows on that tour (I’m including the excellent Oakland shows)
I’ve been working in yet another fortified bunker up in the Gulch with no phone signal and they didn’t pay their cable bill (lol, 3 houses in a row now?) so no interwebs!!! The HORROR!
There’s a whole big section of this place that was added illegally (over the allotted 10,000 square feet limit) there a full Theatre, a huge game room, and an exercise area with both hot and dry saunas etc. Funny thing was the original owner who did this got busted and had to remove it all and cement the entry closed! . Of course eventually they were able to sneak it all back in, but I’m curious how that works when you sell the place?
So I’ve had to DL shows before I get there, thereby perhaps falling a little behind here, but I’ve been blowing through 2 shows a day, though mostly background listening. I do find that certain really good or really bad parts seem to catch my attention listening that way?
Definitely ready for some more 82 this week, maybe try a 92, and perhaps Doc can turn us onto some more Primal?

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To Marye...Here, Here!

Bolo: I'll be seeing Bonnie Raitt "with special guest, Mavis Staples" in September.
Bonnie has an heir apparent, and her name is Susan Tedeschi.

My ole departed buddy Keeko used to say “if ignorance was bliss, I must be the happiest man on earth”
Har, har. But who is really the fool, and who the wise man!
Which someway is ment to say I enjoyed todays choice of fools, yuk, yuk.
Pretty fun first show Dennis! And a Shakedown encore to boot!
So, which band member played the best other instrument?
One of the drummers was ok, Bob on the organ was decent, buuuuttttt….

Then a rehash of the fine second set from 9/16/91 MSG. Yeah Jer bear botches the beginning to Saint, but overall solid with some great peaks and a super set list! Was the CAT and Attics the greatest, no but for the times I would of shat myself to see a show like this.
Washing it all down with disc 2 from Vault II 68, top shelf New Potato, and a 2020 Anchor Xmass.
Cheers amigos!

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Enjoyable show. I had to try out a couple different sources. And always love a Shakedown Encore. Would love to hear an upgraded version some day.

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Pretty sure Bill said in his book these shows were a par-tay. Lord knows we need more of those... :-) Be safe all :-) and par-tay har-tay :-)

p.s. stairs

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Hey, rockers!!!

Pick of the day: Cincinnati April 3 1970

How and why did the Dead land in Cincinnati on April 3, 1970? Rockers, let’s not ask why, let’s just enjoy…..

A very nice and somewhat unknown/underrated/certainly underappreciated Spring 1970 show, and a great example of the short lived Electric set 1/Acoustic set/Electric set 2 format. Psychedelic folkies, folk chemists, spinners of sweet magical tuneage…………..

Enough grease to keep writers from Colorado happy. Classic covers. Sweet acoustic, with the first Candyman. Black Peter from the dark recesses of the heart. “Short” but crunchy second set, kicking off with a fiery Not Fade Away. Love that position, wish they had carried that set opener forward into 71 and 72! Cosmic Charlie. Lovelight. And yes folks, we bid you goodnight, sweet dreams….

Give your ears a workout, you won’t regret it………………

Doc
The best way to make your dreams come true is to wake up…….

Starting off my Sunday.
Been a while since I last listened to Hooteroll?. Seemed like a good choice for today.

I had pretty good success with the Spring 90 tour. Listened to every show on or close to the anniversary. On weeknights if time was limited I wouldn’t listen to the whole first set, but did always listen to the whole second set. And, most importantly, I listened to every Drums/Space. Good stuff there. That must have been an awesome tour to be on.

Time to brew a second cup of coffee. I only brew one cup at a time so that they’re always fresh.
Black and oily Columbian Supremo beans that I roasted 3 weeks ago.
Several years ago Jim and Kayak guy turned me on to roasting beans. Thanks again guys. The best beans are the ones you roasted yourself.

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I’ll hit that mañana when I’m back in my cave at work!

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Looking at 9/18/90 MSG for today. It is a Pearson Healy Miller.

Let me know if there is any interest in this one.

Still haven't reached spring here in MN. More snow.

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Gotta hit 4/3/70 first. Prolly have time after for 9/18/90.