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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

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June 28, 2020 - 9:31pm

#6671

DeadVikes

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Otis/Oroborous

Good to see you back in the loop. Hope all is well. New system is always exciting.
I am willing to give Dave's 31 another try. Haven't listened to it since last year.

Took out Good old Dave's 25, the BINGHAMTON NY 77 show. Some of these shows keep getting better with each listen.
Oroborous, you are a wild man. What a ride!

Be well folks. I have heard rumblings in other pages about big announcements coming. Don't know about that but we do know Dave's 35 will be announced in July. Maybe they will give Oroborous an 85 pick?
June 28, 2020 - 9:27pm

#6672

Vguy72

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6.28.85 Hershey Park....

....another one of my first tapes. Bird Song-> Comes A Time -> Deal. A rare Garcia trifecta to end the first. Music Never Stopped-> Tom Thumbs to open the second. How do you guys keep bringing up my first loves? And why does this band keep following me?
Here's kind of a story. I tripped balls listening to this tape in 1989. That's all I got.
June 28, 2020 - 7:19pm

#6673

wilfredtjones

Joined:
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Hershey

You know it's on Dave's radar as he has played some of it on 30 Days in past years. Good show and one of my first tapes. Keep the stories coming! :-)
June 28, 2020 - 5:16pm

#6674

Oroborous

Joined:
June 19, 2007

6/28/85

So after basically staying up for 2 days at SPAC, we finally pack it up and hit the road the next day. I believe it was a rainy, gloomy day most of the day. But that didn’t stop our idiot patrol from basically racIng at high speed through the fine but conservative state of Pennsytuckey, where they were one of the last to let go of the 55 mph laws, and back then there usually wasn’t much tolerance. So 2 cars of totally raging nutknicks, with probably enough cargo to keep us detained for decades, thought it’d be a good idea to race at speeds up to 90!, Idiots!.....yes, one car had a radar detector, but in those days smart cops would wait for some nut traveling high speed and click it on when they had ya dead nuts.
Luckily, all was well and it was one more “miracle” as we earnestly pursued our quest for “too much of everything is just enough”, aaaa, never considered back then maybe Bob was being sarcastic? Lol
So we roll on into Chocolate town late and all beat up. I’m guessing we grabbed some kind of drive through, but not sure and as we were hardcore vegetarian then, perhaps we thought we’d grab something there? It’s all such a blur, I do recall the lot we were in had no or little Shakedown action going on. That still wasn’t in full flight anyway, and don’t recall much there, so maybe we drank our supper? I know I scored some Carlsberg Elephant beer, and believe I may have finished it, though that is a tall order even under good conditions so perhaps not. I’m sure I put in dent in it at least! So, that and the last of one z of veggies, though the tricky part was it was mostly just powder and scraps and so no normal produce to properly gage etc, which would turn out to be a tactical error...
So it’s late, we’re tired, but tweaked, perhaps no dinner, and of course it’s horrible out. Dark, rainy, and cold is usually not how you want to do your Dead. Eventually we get in perfect time, slip right in front of the SB and try to make the best of the situation. Well I had a shirt, a black baseball jacket, and the electric Buffalo Hyde, but even still it was damp and cold at first. Eventually, when things started to take hold and we started boogieing, we began to warm up a bit.
Meanwhile, the set list is awesome, but the conditions, which necessitated all the stage and PA speakers being covered in plastic (there was no stage lid) thereby severely effecting the audio. It’s was such a weird show that way, loved the little “stadium” and the nice audiophile stereo set up, with surrounds, great set list, mostly good playing, yes JGs vocals are a little ruff in the first set, but you have to cut some slack as it was terrible, I mean depending on the wind/rain they were getting rained on playing electrical instruments! Weird indeed, but like so many times in adverse conditions our heroes seemed to rise to the challenge. Thus the playing was perhaps more relaxed, steady and together and not forced like the previous night. Really, besides JGs vocal issues in the first, its a top notch show!
The second set really starts to take it higher with stellar versions of Music Never Stopped, Terrapin, Miracle and one of the best Dews I’ve ever seen! I think I saw about 14 or 15 Dews and when I think about Dews I’ve seen, this one is the one I always think of first! Rocking Stones/NFA with a spirited Day Job. I liked Day Job, but by now it was getting a tad old, and was a disappointment for this show considering how high it was at that point. A She Belongs or Baby Blue would of been a perfect Cherry on top, but perhaps that’s being greedy?
Now since the weather was such a factor, we must discuss that and how it influenced this show. The second set starts out with their “signing in the rain” as Bob says, and it’s a good’n! Next they slowly slid into an unusual sounding Tom Thumbs which I had never heard yet, and wasn’t even sure at first what it was, but hey, it was Phil so that’s all I needed to know! Good but perhaps truncated Estimated, followed by an awesome Terrapin. So as the set started to progress, so did the weather until (I think?) around Estimated it really started to clear up and they started pulling the plastic tarps down. It was almost like you could immediately hear it get better after each one was removed. Eventually by about Terrapin, they tarps we’re gone, the moon and stars were out, and Healy started increasing the volume and tweaking the mix. I remember we were goading him to turn it up, and man eventually he sure did!
As the night wore on it began to warm up a bit too. But as you’ve heard this scenario, or been there yourself, many times I didn’t feel quite high enough so what the hell, one more time with the powder veggie crumbles just before drums......hee-hee....you know, “I’m not feeling it?” and then...Dooah!
So the problem with those baseball jackets is they don’t really breath and the electric Buffalo Hyde was thick plastic. We didn’t have all the nice technical outer gear we have now, or at least WE didn’t. I could barely afford the free plastic one from the old mans work.
Well a perfect storm mounted; little or no food, Elephants, veggies etc, no sleep, excess everything and underlying exhaustion, with me starting to overheat due to the above and dancing with that plastic shell on. Things were going unbelievable well, and partly influenced by the very recent passing of my Grandfather, during Dew, things peaked musically, the sound, the night, the stars, emotionally etc etc until I had one of the most powerful musical/emotional/psychedelic peak experiences of my life. Perhaps my all time GD moment, it was that powerful. But what goes up must come down and just like that the radiator blew and that last handful of shroom dust fully kicked in and somewhere in Throwing Stones, right during ashes, ashes all fall down, well.....I say i didn’t really fall down, it was more like an immediate realization that if I don’t sit down rapidly, I’m going down! LOL, so one way or another, depending on who you believe, I end up down in the soft, cool mud until near the end of the song, but I swear just as I tried to get up I knew it wasn’t going to happen, so right on que again I go back down. My friends to this day always bring up my perfectly coreographed “Dance moves” above all else that happened on this tour..35 years later and it’s still “ashes, ashes, Pedro falls down” !
That would of all been well and good except things were very strange and weren’t wearing off, and I was barely functioning. I never would of found the car etc If not for my homies. Honestly all I remember is them pulling into a Wendy’s or something, but I just sat in the car with my face literally stuck to the window and crackled! Zzzzttttt. I really thought I had finally fried some essential circuits and thought this time I really did it. At some point I snapped out enough to find some kids in another car staring at me with a look of concern if not fear. Luckily, the boys finished up and came out and got us outta there. Somewhere near the state line we finally grabbed a motel as we all had had more than enough rain and adversity. Plus the next day was off and the drive short. I remember they propped me up in bed and I just sat and crackled and worried. Eventually I slept and though I felt better the next day, I didn’t feel normal and don’t recall much except when we got to Merriweather and found a good spot just over the creek, right next to the path, in some trees, on the way to the big parking lots to the right of the venue. But now it was nice and I was feeling more normal so not so freaked out. I also remember going to a nearby sorta plaza with an upscale liquor store where I scored my first sixer of EKU 28 ever which was awesome!
So now we’ve moved beyond the insanity of TOGA, the adversity and majesty of Hershey, and ready for perhaps the best overall show of the tour on 6/30/85....

EDIT: Otis, congrats on the stereo. All that matters is if your happy with it. After all the specs and hyperbole etc, no matter how big, small, expensive etc, in the end, that’s all that counts!
June 28, 2020 - 4:14pm

#6675

Thats_Otis

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@ Bob T and Pick for Monday

Nice rec for the TDIGDH 6/28/76 show! I'd never heard that one before, and it is pretty sweet. The "Happiness is Drumming" is certainly a highlight!

I have been out of the loop for a bit - trying to deal with some personal stuff on my end, and I just kind of lost track of things around these parts. I hope to be able to participate more going forward.

To that end, how about a pick for tomorrow, Monday 6/29? I am thinking Dave's 31 - 12/3/79 Uptown. I feel like this pick got a short shrift on the DaP page, but I remember being very happy with it, though I haven't given it a proper listen since it first came out. What do you all think?

One positive thing that I have accomplished since I've been away has been the set up of my first component stereo system. I don't know if it compares to all of your "big boy" systems, but it certainly feels BIG in my little row home! Looking forward to playing it LOUD tomorrow when the wife goes to work.

Peace
June 28, 2020 - 11:41am

#6676

Oroborous

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Voodoo senile, slight return. 6/27/85, and why 85 Dead is like

Bode Miller...

First, GOGD, I did not mean to single you out, over generalizations, which become stereotypes, which become truth etc, really bum me out. So it was more of a trigger to that, not you personally. I know you were just repeating this line.
Actually, as I’ve dug in deeper, there are probably a significant number of shows where he often doesn’t sound so good, but to over generalize that “his voice was shot”, as in never more, to me, imho, that completely devalues and discounts all the amazing, great sounding stuff he was still able to do. 87,88,89,90,91anyone? Micro view versus macro perhaps?

SECOND: I must humbly recant my tale of dancin in the rain. As we were diligently experiencing TOGA last night. Too things became apparent. First, perhaps JG was a tad “caffeinated” at the start of both sets. Listening close on a real system, (not the big boy, but the living room system which ain’t no slouch!), he seems a tad to fast and/or their not fully entrained. One could argue not fully so until Women Are?...so probably something to do with him totally skipping the Key Rain Storm, and Jailhouse versus, of Bertha, lol.
Thus, while I wasn’t deceitful, I was not accurate. Sure enough, when Holmes and Watson ripped a spleef and fired up Bertha from SPAC 6/24/84, and bingo, ding, ding, ding, ding! Right venue, wrong year! 😂 Ooops, my apologies to the dear reader...but hey, it’s a fun interesting new tid bit, and it did rain, I think, lol.
While doing this research I was listening just on the iPad and interestingly he doesn’t sound as bad? Also, I’ve been going with the HS matrixes, especially shows where I want to hear those crowd big moments. Generally they’ve been pretty good, but researching, I used a CM transfer and man, definitely a big difference. Perhaps number one being the speed/time of the Miller seemed better and more natural?
Subjective I know, just that it’s interesting how every variable can effect perceptions.
6/27/85: so this beast is still as much of a rocket sled ride as I’ve thought, but it’s perhaps a tad more unpolished then I would of said in the past. But that’s being picky, and you know I prefer danger dead to safe, so as at this moment, Hell in a bucket is scorching, I stick by this show for that, the cool set list, and the fact that eventually, say around Women Are on out, that part of the show stands with its lofty summer 85 neighbors. Probably have to give 6/24& perhaps 6/25? a slight advantage overall, but man I haven’t been to many shows that had the vibe, fun, and overall madness of this puppy.

So why is 85 Dead like Bode Miller? He often was criticized for his erratic style, or lack thereof, his nonconformity, often disregard for the rules, including parting then basically going 80 MPH down an insane pitch, that was usually hosed down to make it more icy, and thus faster! So just like this era of Dead, sometimes he’d DQ, sometimes he’d slack off, sometimes it was ugly, but when he brought it, that mofo brought it!! and when he was able to be one with the force, it was fucking breathtaking! Scary, but breathtaking. No matter what, if he was racing there was an energy, an excitement, that larger than life vibe......that, to me, is 85 Dead.
FINALLY: Ladies and Germs, May I present the Electric Buffalo Hyde! as christened by my degenerate cohort due to my resemblance of the great beast of the prairies back in the day, and this baby used to be so bright people would ask if there were batteries. But Alas, like youth itself it’s faded dramatically, and is old and bartered. It definitely gave it’s all to R&R. So many Dead shows, festivals, camping, parties, you name it! Also, it will be a part of an unfortunate situation at the next night, where I lost my shit in Hershey! So until then....
June 28, 2020 - 11:14am

#6677

bob t

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only time played anniversary show 6/28/76 Chicago Auditorium

If you are too busy to listen to whole show, listen to Happiness is Drumming from set II, if you have never heard or listened to listen you will be pleasantly surprised!!! There is a Charlie Miller soundboard on Internet Archive!!!! bob t
June 27, 2020 - 4:07pm

#6678

The Good Ole G…

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Good Times Great Oldies

Sounds like the ole SPAC '85 show will get some play today.

Always a fun revisit. Vguy & Keithfan that was you guys?! That's funny.

I guess I always thought this was an indoor show because of the balcony stuff and didn't know about the rain storm.

Tell us more.

And just for the record if I happen to say Jerry's voice is shot, what I mean to say is I love Jerry's voice, even though it's a little shot here. ;)

I agree, it always sounds great to me.

Enjoy party people!
June 27, 2020 - 11:21am

#6679

Oroborous

Joined:
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Not a drop

We were out on the lawn so actually there were many drops, I mean it was already raining hard, and right when he sang that line, biblical!, but it just added to the madness and was one of my favorite concert/rain moments ever! I believe that’s right when folks crashed security on those balcony ramp ways and turned it into a free for all? Yeah, that was the shit, such energy all around, but that rain just took it to another level. Luckily I had my electric buffalo Hyde on! .....it was a psychedelic neon yellow long rain coat with
BS CORP
WORK SAFELY (from pops work) printed on back, and a Dancin skeleton sticker underneath that I added. Still have it! I should take a pic and post...fond it moving last year.
June 27, 2020 - 10:48am

#6680

Oroborous

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Summer 85, and why I’m not prepared for class

Deadheadbrewer: yeah, I’m with you, I can’t keep up with these rascals! Pant-pant 😉
Haven’t done Riverbend, Nassau or Dane. Prolly give Nassau a spin this WE. Dane I’ve tried to stay away from cause ya gotta believe their going to give us that one someday! Bastards better! and I’d prefer it on virginal ears!
hey, by the way, how you guys coming on that tunnel under the vault?
So I listen to Riverbend 6/24/85 sort regularly so no biggie there except in the sense of comparing shows. Except It’s cool to go in order to see the subtle changes and how things progress. Like 6/25/85, definitely have felt a ascending arc since the first night in Alpine. Funny thing is I don’t think I’ve heard the second set of this one before? Had a tape of the first all along, but I think it was a tad too crisp so didn’t get as much love as the shows around it. Plus I think maybe I harbored some subliminal resentment for the show because of our decision to skip it to go to Toga early like we did in 84, which was awesome. Obviously if it made us skip a show that close to home, but Doooaahhh. So not sure how it’s the shows fault. LOL, but I think somehow I’ve had some weird thing about this show that has kept me away? Sorry, ramblings of a deranged lunatic!
Anywho, finally gave this bad boy a spin yesterday, though had to do it in 2 sessions as life just keeps buttin’ in like a 3 year old when mom and dad are trying to get down! Man what a show. The only really noticeable hiccup I recall was JG at the start of Jimmy, and Bob missed a vocal, really a great set, better than I remember, though I always liked it, just the tape was lesser then the others...
Second set was hot too, though perhaps they lost just a little near the end? Or maybe that was me as it was late, and by that time on a Friday this ole cowboy is usually not feeling much pain! I recall a couple little blemishes, but so what, you name any show, anyone, and I can find stuff wrong. And sorry, but I’m kinda over hearing about how terrible JGs voice is. Yes, sometimes it’s ruff, but sometimes I think the gravelly age worn voice ADDs to the affect of the songs, which is perhaps what he did best. And frankly, I’ll take the gravel voice singing in tune over a lot of that 1970 stuff we’re between the guitars and the vocals something is ALWAYS out of tune. That’s torturous for a musician.
Now I’m not trying to diss anyone’s favorite Dead etc, just stating an opinion that people perhaps overdo it with the voice comments. My favorite is when people say “I can’t listen to anything after 77”....ok, we’ll that’s cool as it’s your choice and all, but I’d say really you just have made up your mind you don’t want to like anything after that, and you probably haven’t heard enough and with the right kind of ears. Seriously, I challenge anyone to pick a “perfect” “best of “ show and if I have time I will find the cracks!
But that’s missing the point which is ITS ALL GOOD! and every era has something positive that the others don’t have. It’s all ways been yin yang folks, there is no such thing as a perfect show, except in our minds eye, which is quite A ok.
Ok, rant over, I’m obviously biased about my beloved 85!
Which brings us back to TOOOOOOOGGGGAAAAA!! Yo Butch, back in your seat, there’s 50 thousand people waiting for you to get back in your seat! Madness, the whole scene there was just surreal fucking madness, but in a good way.
I’m actually going to try and call my old house/band mates at the time as we all went. 2 I think went to blossom, and Pittsburgh. That one too, like WTF basically could of stopped by on the ride home from Merriweather, idiots! Lol, actually, I’m not sure I could have done another show. I may have caused permanent damage at Hershey, and thank god for that day off that I can’t recall much about, and I did take it a tad easier after, but not much. We ate so many veggies on that run that nobody would believe it. But I know what I came with and what was left after so.....looking back, it’s all kinda scary, we’re lucky we never had any real casualties of any sort. Few close calls, but nothing major, phewwww.
So going to call the lads, and fire up Toga tonight as We have to do a Zoom wedding this afternoon. We were supposed to be out at the Promised land for said wedding and a actual vacation, first since Seattle in ?? 2012!
Think Homer Simpson “oohhhh, Ssstttooooopid Covid”
Speaking of living via the net, was that not a fine show on Shakedown last night! Didn’t have the fire like the night before, but a fine well played outing, thanks so much to Dave and Co. for giving us this nice diversion. It’s getting to b3 a regular weekly thing, and gasp, the Mrs has actually been joining me and digging it! .....as long as I give her a good foot massage (usually during drums). She really digs the trippy graphics and colors which is even funnier as she’s never partaken except booze back in da day, it’s like giving a kid castor oil just getting her to have a beer, lol. So yeah, this Friday thing has been like the “ONE” in our music! Right on! and please keep em coming!
Ok, gotta try and call the guys and reminisce before the wedding. Then.....drum rolls please..........TOOooooGa!

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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

9/11/82

Definitely worth a listen all. I made it to drums today. Will finish it up tomorrow.
What a show so far and the sound quality from the new Miller is outstanding.
PT Barnum, that is cool you were at the next night. I will have to check out that show as well. Any good stories about your experience with 9/12/82?
When was the last 82 show released? I am thinking Dick's 32? But my memory isn't what it used to be. 18 years ago? Come on!

82

Besides 30 trips, I think it was Road Trips Vol. 4 No. 4, the Spectrum.

Jim 82

Jim, yes, thanks for the reminder on RT 4.4 from the Spectrum, how could I forget that! Love that release. So, 2011, it is time.

9-12-82

Another good show by the boys with Jerry on point and in fine voice. We were quite wasted on some good blotter and I remember really having a blast at this show. It was a rocker and the blotter was a bit speedy so off we went, there were a lot of folks trippin that nite. I do remember that this was the last time that the Dead played Lakeland, it being in Polk county and tptb thought it was a good idea to build a complex to get some of that concert money from rock fans, but they didn't take into effect that back in those days, people took drugs and got high and tried to have a good time at shows. That did not go over well with the repubs and religious right in the town that was labeled "christian" and had crosses along the road when you entered the limits of the city. Very red Polk county was and still is as far as I'm concerned.
There were so many undercover cops there that Bobby made an announcement that the person sitting next to you might not be who you think they are and to be careful. As the show was occurring, the cops went thru the lot with dogs and sniffed out drugs left in folks cars, so when you came back out, they were waiting for you. A real bummer was had by over 200 people who were caught up in their little "sting". The Dead never came back to Lakeland after this show.
It wasn't long after this that there was an Iron Maiden show at the venue where they did the same thing and busted over 500. That may have been the last time rock bands played there as it had gotten a real bad reputation as an uncool venue. The police just waited for a show, swooped down and robbed a bunch of folks, plain and simple.
Like I said, check out the second set, it's a rocker.

RRRrrrrrrrrr Mateys

Been walking the plank!
Finally got that lil Pirates show yesterday.
Sometimes really like those little shows.

9/11/82 Rollin now…sounds good so far (Duprees!)

9/12/82, sounds horrible, scene that is, I’ll have to check out the show?
If I was starting to trip hard and Bobbie came out and said that, things could of potentially gotten very weird, THE FEAR!, and not in a good way, OR! we might have started laughing our arses off? Such was the psychedelic life.

7/6/01: Mr BC! Thanks for the jump start. I seem to very vaguely recall that show. Looked it up and I was definitely there, physically at least lol.
Do you recall what the weather was like? Yeah baby, that’s what I really dug about these early post Dead gigs: they played all the good old shit many of us never got to see/hear! From Viola, the 11, Allah, sheeeooot, all kinds of good stuff! It’s easy to forget that theres been so many years of ridiculous music AFTER the dead!
Good times for sure, bet we were at many of the same shows!
Yeah that 7/6/03 must have been good as I actually bought that show, the rest I got copies.

ridiculous music indeed

yeah Oro - I generally loved what i saw and heard, and if i didn't it was likely my own head space at the time. The first show that brought me back to that "show" space, in glorious fashion, was The Other Ones at Fiddlers Green as part of the Further Festival(?), 7/19/98. Streaming a board source on the Archive right now. I think Mystery Box and Rusted Root were on the bill too. The way that set lists and were reinvented and long unplayed gems suddenly were a possibility, largely thanks to Phil early on, made for some really fine music and fun times. So the Other Ones opened it up with Playing > Watchtower > Scarlet > Fire (Mickey Hart style!), Jack A Roe - what's not to like??!! Had totally forgotten the band line up - Mickey, Phil, and Bob, also Hornsby(!!), Kimock(!!), Molo(!!), David Ellis on saxaphone(!!), and Mark Karan on guitar also(!!). FFS - all awesomeness! During Down the Road Again I watched a huge image of Jerry's smiling face appear in the clouds behind the stage and judging by the roar of others in the crowd it wasn't just me. A total blessing by Jerry. Sweet little Love Supreme bit by Hornsby and Ellis afterwards leading into White wheeled Limousine.

edit - so far surfing the net I still can't confirm that Mystery box played that day, but I guess Jorma/Hot Tuna was there! I feel like I saw Mystery Box at some point and I thought this show but I guess not - maybe it was hearing Down the Road Again that triggers that (false) memory.

Joining the chorus

1968! 1968! 1968!

Time for a Dave's Pick for this amazing year of primal Dead. Looking for 10/12 and 13 (the obvious choices).

Which other shows do you deem release-worthy for '68?

1968

10/12 & 13 seem like they have to happen right? As for other dates I'll leave that to the experts here.

“We’re not worthy, we suck”

Unfortunately I’ve barely tipped me pinky in 68 YET!
It would not be appropriate for a neophyte of this region to do so.
But I LUVE the 7? official shows I have, and the few others I’ve heard recommended by our stalwart crew, probably, particularly by our long lost guru GOGD!
Primal Dead! Bring it!!!

BCROW: I was at those shows you mention. Feelings of hope, like, it’s not the same, probably never be, but it’s alright! Let there be songs…
I worked western half of 96 Futhur Fest from Pittsburgh to the end in Phoenix and Mystery Box was killing it on that tour. So perhaps your thinking of 96? Though I was there in 98 as a civilian. Remember hanging round the Bear at that one. He was selling his jewelry.

9/11/82 and 9/12/82.
Good, but perhaps not great shows?
Enjoyable no matter what hairs ya split.
Good sounding, interesting look at Brent’s evolution, and cool early West LA with still forming lyrics.
Women Are still kinda a newish big deal. A newly restrung Duprees, cool second set sequence on 9/11, don’t recall any mention of Micks Bday? Ah well he’s just a drummer lol ; ) just teasing Mick!
Didn’t hear that Bob PSA about narcs etc?
A couple more notches on the ole lip stick case.

Bear was at Fiddlers Green 1998?

So I saw a show that Bear attended? Really? Wow!

Didn't catch the '96 tour - Mystery Box maybe just a dream.

Well now don’t

bank all your cards on my memory old buddy, lol.
Yes Mystery Box was on 96, but I don’t remember much about 98 so can’t recall lineup?
But I know Bear was there (probably in 98), don’t think he necessarily had his own booth, but was at ?? somebodies booth and was showing off his stuff, as he usually was the few times I saw him.
Could have easily been one of the 2 Other Ones shows I saw there in 98 & ??…
Not sure I had a “conversation” at all, think I mostly just hung around and lurked.
More interesting and ya don’t wanna be “that” guy etc. I mean I probably wasn’t in the kind of shape to actually articulate principles of sound etc at the time anyway, which is what I would have in a more appropriate setting.
But yeah, that’s already 20+ years since all that, and that was the start of phase two!

Of all ghosts the ghosts of our old loves are the worst......

Pick of the day: March 16, 1968 Carousel Ballroom - San Francisco, CA

"New and improved" Miller remaster just hit general circulation. Raw, powerful, remarkable....................

Rock on!!!

Doc
If anyone boos you offstage, that is simply applause from ghosts.......

3-16-68

Doc,
What’s the ID # of that Miller?
I was at etree and losslesslegs last night but didn’t see anything new.
I have 109944.miller and 9388.vernon.
Thanks.

For anyone who collects video, there were two new/upgraded shows.

gd1979-07-01.bma-bhp.dvdf

gd1986-12-28.aud-upg.bhp.bd
The audio is a Miller from 3-8-22.

Haven’t watched either yet.

The ghost of Arnold Horsehack says

“Boo, boo, boo” Mr Kotter, 68 is great!
3/16/68 it is!

Numbers have life; they're not just symbols on paper......

gd1968-03-16.carousel ballroom.sbd.156159.latvala.gans.eaton.miller.flac16 - ee299e246484307653afff5db181e16723ec472f

Just checked, currently up at Lossless Legs..............

Rock it!

Doc
We are all primary numbers divisible only by ourselves................

Re: More 1968 = bliss for the mind

There's a bit of talk about 1968 on Workingman's Pod episodes 3 and dipping your big toe into 69, Episode 4. In fact.. episode 3 is all about 10/12/68.

Check it out.. rss dot com / podcasts / workingmans-pod

Full disclosure, I sort of make a cameo.

Thanks Doc

A latvala.gans.eaton.miller looks tasty.
I’ll track it down.

D’oh

I actually downloaded 3-16-68 last night but forgot.

And I wasn’t even drinking.

Just transferred it to a microSDXC and am commencing listening.

3/16/68

I just went with the existing Miller on relisten and it sounded pretty good.
Cool little show!
Fully dug.
Thanks Doc!

3/16/68

Alligator > Caution

wowza - luv that combo every time

Newest 3/16/68 now on the Archive

... /details/gd1968-03-16.156159.sbd.latvala.gans.eaton.miller.flac16 is now up on the archive PLUS you can download FLAC & other lossless versions (for now anyway).

Today's Pick

Anyone have a pick out there for today?

2/14/88 New Miller SBD

I’ve been listening to the new Miller 2/14/88. Great show. Lots of energy!

Alright 2/14/88

Perfect. 2/14/88 Oakland. Thanks Adedhed68, I haven't listened to much 1988 lately, so it will a good change of pace. Diving in soon.

2/14/88

Hit the spot for me. I hope you enjoyed it DeadVikes :-)

2/14/88

Hey thanks Adedhed68 for the pick.

Second night of the start of 88. Wow, the memories! Anyway, I wasn't able to locate a new Miller, but I did listen to one from 2009. This one sounded decent. Always love a Franklins in the first set. China Rider, Terrapin, Stella Blue, Mighty Quinn.Enjoyable show. Thanks man, keep them coming.

Quinn The Eskimo

Funny.. I was in the mood for this song and see it pop up here. I haven't done this show yet, hopefully tomorrow.

I got sucked into 5/18/72 today.. under the radar for E72, man this one was fulfilling and I'm not quite finished. I never noticed just how good the cowboy medley in the first set was. Well, a cowboy blues sammy (El Paso, It Hurts Me Too, You Win Again). Jerry's tone really shines. I can't think of a better way to describe the sound he gets than tonal purity. Such a good show, and the first Dark Star > Morning Dew which is up next. I'm not sure if this is sacred ground, but it comes pretty damned close.

About a month ago, I posted my work-around for crapatcha. Select the "Stay Logged In" option when you sign in. Well, they did away with that shortly after I posted that so now I am crapatcha'ing like a mad man. damn you Dead Net and your silly crapatcha! Damn you all to hell! (said in my best chuck heston accent)

Back to whatever it is you were doing.. sorry for the distraction.

So still stuck

on some of those "post jerry " shows I saw. dug out the discs for 7/6/03 and 7/10/03. I think I purchased first 4 nights of that Red Rocks run but those are the 2 shows I can find right now. Disc 1 for 7/10 landed in my hands first so in the player it went. now 3rd or 4th go around (sort of the way I listen sometimes). What a gas. Fantastic power entry (as it should be) for Help on the Way opener. Having Joan on vocals for that tour was such a treat. What a great vocalist. I think it energized the rest of the band in a particular way. That 1st set has a ripping Hard to Handle with Joan and Bobby trading verses. Remember thinking how very awesome it was at the time. Great to hear another Down the Road Again from Mickey. Set closes with a Dark Star v.1 with Phil/Joan/Bobby singing lines > jam > Bertha, and it's a totally kick ass Bertha with Bobby and Joan singing. Damn fine stuff.

Also while driving I dug out DaP 20 Boulder 12/9/81. Still haven't gotten to Disc 3. That seems to be a release that doesn't get much love and it certainly didn't from me when it was released. I saw the Rosemont show 12/6. Remember getting a snail mail letter from my friend out in the springs who was at the Boulder show. And he loved it. Yeah there's a big stumble in Jack Straw. And some WTF tape gaps in the SBD, but yeah I can hear why my friend dug that show.

Onward my good friends : )

81 and 72

We like it here, we are going to come back. But they never did. The CU Events Center. Good show here Bluecrow despite the weird Jack Straw, and the occasional audience patches through out the release. Whatever it takes to release more 81, I am for. When do we get the next 81?

5/18/72, this was definitely one of the many shows I tried to obtain before I got the box last year. And it is a really good show. I think I will have to get it going today Jim.

more early Brent

yeah DV, I'm all in for more '79 - '82. lot of hot shows in those early Brent years. Lest I forget, all in for end of the Keith/Donna era, some of those early '79 shows are damn good and for sure they've got to release 2/17/79 someday - that show is killer.

almost finished with 7/10/03 - really fun show. Second set opened with Bobby on acoustic playing Blackbird. As luck would have it I saw the first of 2 GD version at Alpine in '88. That was a spontaneous and super special awesome moment to be treasured, despite the naysayers. wrote about that show, in the context of that run, as guest post for GDHour years ago. So yeah it's fun to go back to some of these other one shows. Jerry was there in spirit for sure big time, and there was a lot of excellent music being played. edit - there are places in 7/10/03 second set that Herring's guitar sounds to me like a soprano sax and I Iove it. Great Franklins end Set II to book end show opener. And Loose Lucy for an encore just kicks it.

yet another edit - forgot to add that several days ago listened to the Warehouse show from the night of the bust 1/31/70, plus material from other nights of the run. There is a note here at dead dot net that the acoustic set for 1/31 was spontaneous and had its origin in equipment issues. I'm wondering if the acoustic/electric shows that began regularly shortly thereafter were already planned or if the fun they had playing acoustic 1/31 led them to reimagine their show structure.

April Fool's show for tomorrow?

there's a few, 4-1-80 is good, in fact, most if not all of these April 1st shows are good to great. 4-1-94 is excellent, so is 95, check them out.

Bonnie Raitt

Saw her last night, her second show after a long pandemic hiatus. I hadn't seen her for years, and I was blown away that, at age 72, her voice is still as clear and soulful as ever. Maybe better. And she hasn't lost anything on the guitar, either. Band was tight, just a very enjoyable evening. Catch her if she comes to your town - you won't regret it.

Next up: Gov't Mule in June, Tedeschi/Trucks and Los Lobos in August.

Bonnie Raitt??!! Nice!!

Damn, would love to have been there. "Funny thing" was that back ca. 1980 she was "the" concert at my cornfield college. Saw the show but had no clue who she was and nowhere near the appreciation I would have had a few years later. I think she had Pinetop Perkins playing with her - not on tour with her but in the area. I would def want to take the John Deere to see that show again. A favorite Jerry Band tape BITD was her playing with Jerry back in 1987.

Bonnie in 1987 with Jerry

If that was at the Greek in Berkeley, I was there. I believe they did "Think" and "Knockin' on Heaven's Door" together (?). At one point they were trading licks, until Jerry went off and she did the "I'm not worthy" bow. Fun time.

Bonnie and Jerry 1987

yeah - that's the show! lucky you! had a killer audience tape. been a good very long while since i listened but memory is that Think was absolutely crackling.

Bonnie & Jerry 1987

I was there, fun show. We were up on the Eel River the day before, to see Garcia Acoustic & Elctric bands, what a cool scene that was!

Bonnie Raitt

I saw her play on a couple of songs with The Other Ones 8-25-00 Shoreline.
Had great seats right in front of Hornsby.

PT Barnum-4/1/80

Alright, 4/1/1980 at Port Chester sounds good to me. Will give it a go tomorrow. Thanks.

I'm in for 4/1

Been on an 80's high lately. Why not stick with it?

Dead net official Marye Day!

Every year on this day we like to give a big round of THANKS! to our Den mother and logistical nightmare nurse, Marye!
So from all us fools to you, THANKS FOR ALL YOU DO!

Bluecrow: I’d love for them to do something with 1/20 & 1/10/79! Make a good Dave’s with all of one and part of the other (of course I’m extremely biased) and supposedly there’s no tapes in the vault? Maybe someday they’ll show up : (
And I fully agree about 2/17/79. I know Billy the Kids been lobbying for this and a Brent’s first combo for some time. Think that would be a neat release, call it “new ones coming as the old ones go”
Alpine 88? Interesting thoughts. We didn’t go that year because it was such a shit show in 87. So when we heard at Buckeye about the Bird etc we were obviously bummed. But everyone we talked to said it was too damn hot, the scene was too crazy, and the Bird was cool to see, but not mind blowing? Always interesting on folks take on these things.
Glad you had a enjoyable time! That was a weird summer for me: broke my ankle a week before tour. Buckeye, which I now think was a pretty good show, was ruff being on crutches and still hurting pretty good in spite of all the analgesics lol. Pittsburgh I don’t recall the show much except we sat up in the back outta the way which was good for the foot. Also remember Gentlemen Start Your Engines and thought it was interesting. Cool scene there too that day.
Toga I had to sell my ticket as I needed to go to the hospital for tests (long story). Still bums me out about that whole situation. Crotchfester was good for the times and a crazy scene, oh, and that fun Green Onions!
Oxford was awesome, all the way around! Decent, sort of under the radar tour.
81Boulder: it’s not that I don’t like this show, it’s that there are many other ones from this tour I think are better!
Dane, Rosemount, and especially Indianapolis are all great shows! So another case of Dave going to the right city and street, but the wrong house, imho anyway…

BONNIE RAITT: alas, don’t recall ever getting to see her. Another force of nature that came outta nowhere and left a smoking crater. The only gal living at the House of Bluelights (our good buddy BOO469’s gal at the time) was a huge Bonnie fan and turned me on. Think it was that first album that just blew my teenage brain away! Man I miss that. It still happens occasionally, but not like back then when people would regularly turn you on to stuff that would fry circuits for life!

4/1/80: not only our pick of the day but the 42nd anniversary of our good buddy, and fashion guru, Dennis here at deadnets first show! Happy happy joy joy to big D!

For extra credit check out the 4/1/91 show ole Conekid turned us onto awhile back if you haven’t done so!

Speaking of 91, after I hit that decent 2/14/88 show I’ve been rehashing the Richfield fall 91 shows at work and all except one of the MSG shows. Definitely a nice box worth of shows on that tour (I’m including the excellent Oakland shows)
I’ve been working in yet another fortified bunker up in the Gulch with no phone signal and they didn’t pay their cable bill (lol, 3 houses in a row now?) so no interwebs!!! The HORROR!
There’s a whole big section of this place that was added illegally (over the allotted 10,000 square feet limit) there a full Theatre, a huge game room, and an exercise area with both hot and dry saunas etc. Funny thing was the original owner who did this got busted and had to remove it all and cement the entry closed! . Of course eventually they were able to sneak it all back in, but I’m curious how that works when you sell the place?
So I’ve had to DL shows before I get there, thereby perhaps falling a little behind here, but I’ve been blowing through 2 shows a day, though mostly background listening. I do find that certain really good or really bad parts seem to catch my attention listening that way?
Definitely ready for some more 82 this week, maybe try a 92, and perhaps Doc can turn us onto some more Primal?

Marye, Bonnie, Bolo

To Marye...Here, Here!

Bolo: I'll be seeing Bonnie Raitt "with special guest, Mavis Staples" in September.
Bonnie has an heir apparent, and her name is Susan Tedeschi.

Marye

Thanks for all you do Marye!

Happy Fool 4/1/80

My ole departed buddy Keeko used to say “if ignorance was bliss, I must be the happiest man on earth”
Har, har. But who is really the fool, and who the wise man!
Which someway is ment to say I enjoyed todays choice of fools, yuk, yuk.
Pretty fun first show Dennis! And a Shakedown encore to boot!
So, which band member played the best other instrument?
One of the drummers was ok, Bob on the organ was decent, buuuuttttt….

Then a rehash of the fine second set from 9/16/91 MSG. Yeah Jer bear botches the beginning to Saint, but overall solid with some great peaks and a super set list! Was the CAT and Attics the greatest, no but for the times I would of shat myself to see a show like this.
Washing it all down with disc 2 from Vault II 68, top shelf New Potato, and a 2020 Anchor Xmass.
Cheers amigos!

4/1/1980

Enjoyable show. I had to try out a couple different sources. And always love a Shakedown Encore. Would love to hear an upgraded version some day.

capitol theatre 1980

Pretty sure Bill said in his book these shows were a par-tay. Lord knows we need more of those... :-) Be safe all :-) and par-tay har-tay :-)

p.s. stairs

Only in our dreams are we free……

Hey, rockers!!!

Pick of the day: Cincinnati April 3 1970

How and why did the Dead land in Cincinnati on April 3, 1970? Rockers, let’s not ask why, let’s just enjoy…..

A very nice and somewhat unknown/underrated/certainly underappreciated Spring 1970 show, and a great example of the short lived Electric set 1/Acoustic set/Electric set 2 format. Psychedelic folkies, folk chemists, spinners of sweet magical tuneage…………..

Enough grease to keep writers from Colorado happy. Classic covers. Sweet acoustic, with the first Candyman. Black Peter from the dark recesses of the heart. “Short” but crunchy second set, kicking off with a fiery Not Fade Away. Love that position, wish they had carried that set opener forward into 71 and 72! Cosmic Charlie. Lovelight. And yes folks, we bid you goodnight, sweet dreams….

Give your ears a workout, you won’t regret it………………

Doc
The best way to make your dreams come true is to wake up…….

Hooteroll? and coffee

Starting off my Sunday.
Been a while since I last listened to Hooteroll?. Seemed like a good choice for today.

I had pretty good success with the Spring 90 tour. Listened to every show on or close to the anniversary. On weeknights if time was limited I wouldn’t listen to the whole first set, but did always listen to the whole second set. And, most importantly, I listened to every Drums/Space. Good stuff there. That must have been an awesome tour to be on.

Time to brew a second cup of coffee. I only brew one cup at a time so that they’re always fresh.
Black and oily Columbian Supremo beans that I roasted 3 weeks ago.
Several years ago Jim and Kayak guy turned me on to roasting beans. Thanks again guys. The best beans are the ones you roasted yourself.

4/3/70

I’ll hit that mañana when I’m back in my cave at work!

9/18/90

Looking at 9/18/90 MSG for today. It is a Pearson Healy Miller.

Let me know if there is any interest in this one.

Still haven't reached spring here in MN. More snow.

I’ll try

Gotta hit 4/3/70 first. Prolly have time after for 9/18/90.