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    One more Saturday night at Winterland! Yes, we're back to home base for DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 42, the complete show from Winterland, San Francisco, 2/23/74. The one that featured the earliest amalgamation of what would soon become the Wall of Sound, the one that is so "loud, clear, and defined," it's been ripe for release for quite some time and we're glad it's finally getting its due.

    First set or second, there are no wrong answers here. From the unique show opener of Chuck Berry's "Around And Around" and an incredible "Here Comes Sunshine" that would then disappear for 18 years, to a medley of WAKE OF THE FLOOD tracks - "Row Jimmy," "Weather Report Suite," and "Stella Blue" - cementing their status in the canon and an unstoppable hour through the classic 1973-1974 Dead that is “He’s Gone”>“Truckin’”>“Drums”>“The Other One”>“Eyes Of The World,” it's all exceptionally hot.

    Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 42: WINTERLAND, SAN FRANCISCO, 2/23/74 was recorded by Kidd Candelario and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. Grab a copy while you can.

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  • PT Barnum
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    Daverock, check out Sailing Shoes, Dixie Chicken and Feats don't fail me now. All great and if they don't get ya, their first lp was also quite good. All the above are with Lowell, and I saw them in 78 with Lowell and also many times after with other who came after Lowell. Not the same band without him but still a good time and if you like the sound of shufflin' feet, it can't be beat.

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    Read a series called The Murderbot Diaries by Martha Wells. Short series of 6 books, all but one are <200 pages. Not in the spirit of Asimov, Heinlein, etc but I found them to be a very entertaining, kind of nerdy quick read. Murderbot is a robot that figures out how to disable the part of itself that makes it obey human commands. The series incorporates some networking and programming threads into the story line. Nothing complicated that the reader has to think about but interesting (at least to me, I work at a software company). If anyone intends to try it, the 6th book comes before the 5th book in the story timeline. It's like the author intended to end with book 5 but decided to put out one more.

  • proudfoot
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    Had my virgin listen to waiting for Columbus

    this morning on a long walk

    Some good stuff on there

    No wood, but I am glad I gave it a chance

  • proudfoot
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    I gravitate toward non-fiction

    Just sayin

  • Oroborous
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    Since we’ve been having such nice discussions of.
    Most of my early reading was any Dead, Rock and Roll, beats, etc (go figure).
    Dove deep into Kesey, Kerouac, Cassidy etc.
    Dabbled very superficially in Sci-fi because of friends influences. Ok, but not a big fan.
    Have tried some of the classics but have never been able to get past much of the old prose i,e., started Sound and Fury once but didn’t get too far. Couldn’t understand half of what they were saying lol.
    Of course read the required classics in school, though can’t recall what all that included, but remember I always liked reading classes etc in school (one of the only things I liked about school), but never really got tight with the old vernacular, perhaps my aversion to such is rooted in having to read so many pages of “dead guys” in grad school: Durkheim, Marx, Weber, Freud etc? Cool stuff, but tough reading!
    Was on a big Everest kick about 25 years ago.
    Over the years, ive gathered a pretty decent R&R collection of biographies etc, but through my collection development Librarian other half have been turned on to lots of more modern authors. Some I’ll list in case there’s folks out there searching that perhaps aren’t familiar.
    Richard Russo (great characters!)
    William Kent Krueger
    Jonathan Evison
    Jess Walter
    Jim Harrison
    Garth Stein
    Jim Lynch
    David Gutterson
    Nicholas Evans
    Yes I really like North West authors lol,
    Just to name a few off the top of the ole head, with some not so modern ones:
    Tom Robbins
    Kurt Vonnegut
    James Michener
    Tom Wolfe
    again just to scratch the surface, so many books, so little time, especially when constantly trying to chase the GD dragon…
    Keep ‘em coming,
    Happy Reading!

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    Glad someone else mentioned Theodore Sturgeon and More Than Human. Of course I heard of this from Phil and how it was such a big part of the Dead’s early metamorphosis. It also lead to a life long interest in Gestalt theory which seems to pop up in life now and again, especially when I was in grad school.
    Please check your PM when convenient.

    Feat: interesting, had forgotten that LF aren’t in the Hall of Fame, especially when you consider some of the questionable inductees of recent years! How the hell then are the Feat not in there? Hits, sorta of, I mean who hasn’t covered Willin. Longevity as a active touring unit still bringing it for decades, check, (well except Lowell and recently Paul). One of the greatest live albums of all time, check! So why aren’t they in???

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    Checked the small local library catalog for Fante, no dice. Glad to see recent posts sharing comments on books, always happy for leads on music and the arts. Thanks to all for this community of good will here. There are elephants in the room, topics we wisely leave elsewhere. Early brush with Sci-Fi happened in the late 1950s, when it was moving from near pure pulp with lurid covers into early social consciousness via writings of Bradbury, Heinlein, Asimov. Particularly taken with Theodore Sturgeons "More Than Human", the concept of gestalt consciousness, which seemed to blossom forth with the 60s acid tests and the music/performance of our host band.

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    Lowell George and The Feat

    I believe this has been mentioned here before and many of you probably already know that Lowell George helped produce Shakedown Street. You can check out Lowell on You Tube singing "Good Lovin" and "I Need a Miracle". For those of you not familiar with Little Feat, a good intro to the Feat's first thirty years is the compilation Hotcakes and Outtakes. It includes music from the Lowell era as well as the Craig Fuller and Sean Murphy years. The 2002 Waiting for Columbus compilation with the additional tracks is excellent and may be all you need. As noted before this is one of the best live albums of all time. The new box set release will get my attention, but perhaps not my money. I have to check it out. Of course the Archive has a ton of shows that are worth a listen. Interesting how The Feat never were inducted into the R&R Hall of Fame. Shows what they know...
    Early in my dating days with my wife we were talking on the phone and I had Little Feat playing in the background. She decided at that moment that I couldn't be that much of nerd. She shared that story with the band during a meet and greet during the 1999/Y2K New Years Eve show. As she frequently says the last 45 years is the longest date she has ever been on.

    Recent listens...
    Miles Davis - The Lost Concert
    Wilco - Cruel Country
    Drive-By-Truckers - Welcome to Club XIII
    Jefferson Airplane - The Woodstock Experience
    The Stones - El Mocambo '77

    The Dead - Still listening to the St Louis shows and the latest Dave's

    Be well...

  • hendrixfreak
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    Introducing John Fante

    If you gents don't know John Fante, 1909 (b. Denver)-1983 (d. L.A.) (Ask the Dust, others) you owe it to yourself to do so. His writing is sort of film noir-ish, what the critics called "dirty realism." Charles Bukowski once said "Fante was my god." His prose and novels bring life to life. Check him out.

    After I became greatly enamored with his writing, I'm at a friend's gig and I see a Fante book on the front seat of his car. "What are you doing with Fante!?" I say, surprised. He's just as surprised that I know about Fante. So when we see each other, we discuss literature, much to the bemusement of his band mates.

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    Alvarhanso - good to see you mention him as a favourite author. An extraordinary writer- "The Sound and The Fury" is one of the most powerful books I have ever read. A few years ago there was a folio edition of that published, too. A two volume collection, with the first section of the novel colour coded, as Faulkner apparently intended, to indicate the timelines and who the hell was actually being referred to. Quite helpful with two characters having the same name, and a storyline that moves backwards and forwards in time, on the same page without warning.

    There is an interesting essay by Nicholas Meriwether, in the book "All Graceful Instruments", called "Robert Hunter, William Faulkner and It Must Have Been the Roses". In the essay, Meriwether suggests that Faulkner's short story "A Rose For Emily" was an inspiration for the Hunter song. It sheds new light on "Must Have Been The Roses". Whether you agree with it or not, is a different matter of course - but worth a read.

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One more Saturday night at Winterland! Yes, we're back to home base for DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 42, the complete show from Winterland, San Francisco, 2/23/74. The one that featured the earliest amalgamation of what would soon become the Wall of Sound, the one that is so "loud, clear, and defined," it's been ripe for release for quite some time and we're glad it's finally getting its due.

First set or second, there are no wrong answers here. From the unique show opener of Chuck Berry's "Around And Around" and an incredible "Here Comes Sunshine" that would then disappear for 18 years, to a medley of WAKE OF THE FLOOD tracks - "Row Jimmy," "Weather Report Suite," and "Stella Blue" - cementing their status in the canon and an unstoppable hour through the classic 1973-1974 Dead that is “He’s Gone”>“Truckin’”>“Drums”>“The Other One”>“Eyes Of The World,” it's all exceptionally hot.

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 42: WINTERLAND, SAN FRANCISCO, 2/23/74 was recorded by Kidd Candelario and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. Grab a copy while you can.

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First comment!
Psyched for this one, wish we knew bonus tracks?

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I see someone's unfamiliar with the GD: "listening party" says 1971.

c'mon...

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So great skating on a fresh sheet of ice, or writing on a fresh comment board!

Great set, great artwork, from a truly great band!

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I think it was announced way back as
US Blues
It Must Have been the Roses
Playing
Ship of Fools
China > Rider
Uncle Johns Band
I think three are first time performances
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glad you got your glass I got one too since I was shut out a few issues ago
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Listen to the open of “Here Comes Sunshine” and to hear Donna immediately go off key just ruins it. They could keep her honest in the studio but live, forget about it. Saw many shows of that era. It was always a relief when she left the stage. It’s a shame, that was peak musically for them

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I also would like to thank Rhino & Warner Music Group for getting Dave a new camera. I know it's primary use is for business promotional purposes & I hope it serves that function well......In all seriousness I am thankful for all these releases, but I really do not care that it took a year for Rhino to upgrade Dave's equipment. If anything that's somewhat ridiculous. Sorry if I'm killing the positive vibes here. I am very much looking forward to receiving this release & I have no beef with David L.

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....I'm in.

And, the glass.

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That's a shame for something thats limited. Why not one each?

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I'm in (w/ the bonus disc). I'm not going to be caught at the next get together without my Winterland '74 highball glass. As for '74 (and I guess the glass too), If it makes you happy, it can't be that bad.

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Can I get this on vinyl?

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Can I get this on vinyl?

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Let's do this!!!!
ALWAYS PLAY DEAD
PLAY DEAD LOUD

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First year subscriber. Odd putting that US Blues from another era in the middle of the show, but that pick 41 was fantastic! This one looks great too. I miss the days of buying albums and now stream most of my music that is not on my 60 gig iPod (yeah I’m old). So it is a treat to get a cd in the mail, crank it up, have a beer, read the liner notes, etc. Can’t wait til 42 arrives. Thanks Dave.

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That was easy enough. I saw a lot of great shows in Winterland. Hopefully , one of the next 2 Dave's Picks will be from 1970 or earlier.

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Love to see what the bonus cover is like - hopefully a close-up of the ship with the WOS in the Rigging - reminds me of the "No Friggin' in the Riggin'" T-Shirt I had childhood adolescence.

Totally regret reacting slow on the Thelma T, sold out when I went to pull the trigger. That one is awesome, wish there was a reprint...

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Glass ordered.

If I read right, are you only getting the bonus disc is you subscribe, not if you buy ala carte?

The listening party sounds GREAT, shame some Donna shaming already.

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gimme gimme gimme.

Sixtus good seeing you.

That Mike: did you get the Allman's FoxBox? If you did, hope you enjoyed...

Great stuff - 1974 is one of my favourite years. As I understand it, the bonus disc is only for people who subscribe, which rules me out as I bought mine a la carte. But that's alright, mama, that's alright with me.

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Yes, I did get the Allman’s Fox Box, and it Rox!

I remember you mentioned you saw these shows - I’ll bet the ABB just rocked that old theatre, because they sound like fantastic recordings!

Oro - nice job hitting the ice first!! Touché, sir!

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.... I can hear the WOS all the way over here in Michigan. Sounds great! :-D

Too bad it will take three months for the glass to catch up.

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Part of the 2022 subscription. If you didn’t order the subscription, you can order it now a la carte

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I usually hit the ice first…face first that is ; )

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If this is not bull crap what is - the bonus disc used to be pre - order , now it is subscription based ? wow how the capitalists scum bags have stolen the ethos of the Grateful Dead - free concerts being sold is cool,someone had to remix them OK , a bonus disc for pre orders is an encouragement to order early, FINE
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- a bonus disc only for subscriptions is BULL SH*T 100% elitist and ugly - I hope you guys are paying the families of the tapers for the recordings if every penny is being collected - DEAD.net is now as ugly as TRUMP.ORG - are you going to sell membership cards next ?

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From my cassette/Internet Archive digitization project:
GOGD Red Rocks 9/8/83
GOGD Watsonville 9/25/83 - a great outdoor show with an awesome China Rider.
Digitizing for a friend:
Fela and his 35 piece afro-beat orchestra, Berkeley Community Theater 11/14/86

GOGD St Louis 10/29/73 - Powerful Eyes of the World into China Doll
The Byrds - The Notorious Bird Brothers - a psychedelic masterpiece

I'm reading Chris Hillman's autobiography " Time Between" which inspired me to provide a Byrds music background. It's pretty good, and it's interesting to read his description of working and living with Gram Parson as they teamed up as the Burrito Brothers.

subscriptions were last year and it was an ok sale price but Dick's Picks has some lemons - I figured to avoid lemons like Edition #39 which was ugly - I would pre-order - but no bonus disc now, those are only for those that buy blindly into a subscription and is imho - UGLY and WRONG

Every member of the band is a millionaire and the road crew famously got paid well by the band - why are they squeezing us for every cent to get the music ?? pre order for a bonus disc - sure like the best seats in the house you have to be in line early - but subscription only - Does Bobby and the living members know about this ?? I doubt it - this is GREED

Skyscraper - I hate to be the bearer of bad tidings, but it's no longer possible to take a subscription out for 2022. You can only do that for a limited period of time from when the first two releases in the series are named - 'round about November of the preceding year in question, I think.
Hey - how about this for a last 5 -
From Western Swing To Rock cd 1.........Bill Haley and various bands
Complete Motown Singles Volume 7 cd 4 - 1967.......Various
Jerry Lee Lewis at Sun Records Collected Works cd 11.........Jerry Lee Lewis
1st Album..........The Stooges
Stax Volt Singles 1959-1968 cd 2........Various

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Wow! That's one clear, and great sounding eyes. I can't wait for this one, and the bonus disk too. You have got to subscribe to get the whole enchilada.

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Recorded by Kidd from the 2/22/74 performance.

U.S. Blues
Must've Been the Roses
Playing in the Band
Ship o Fools
China Cat Sunflower >
I Know You Rider
Uncle John's Band

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Chill out on the corporate greed baloney. $99, and some change for 4 complete shows,and a bonus disk. It does not get any better for 4 live unreleased limited shows of luxurious music Xanadu.

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I decided to order the glass for the first time. Use it ? ........Display it ?........I got plenty of time to decide. I'll have to stay away from the chat until after I play #42 and the Bonus. I never check out any of the setlists before listening and already may know more that I want to. This is the 44th anniversary of the first Werewolves, and I was there. The only time I was at a "first time played" show. I also took some very nice black and white photos from the show, which I still have. Very cool to see how the band positions were different during tours.

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Ted

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I could be wrong, but I don't recall the bonus disc ever being included with pre-orders; always has been for subscribers only.
By the way, I just got off the phone with Bobby and he's fully aware of the situation; he doesn't care though, he bought his own subscription back in November to make sure he got the bonus disc.

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Seriously, now folks, anyone who can show up TODAY and whine about a 1974 release or find time to diss Donna Jean is really just a comment on their own miserable lives.

Can't you see the sign? NO POOPING HERE! And the fine print: If you must, do it in your own shorts.

Happy to have the show and bonus disc. Many thanks to the team for putting this out. Glad to see the usual crowd digging on what'll be a fantastic 5+ hours of prime GD.

That is all...

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Bonus Discs have been for Subscriptions only since the beginning.

Nice!!!

Lot of hardwork in digitizing, thanks for the effort.

Maybe one day I can hear some. 1983 on Archive?

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Recall that just eight months or so later, after this show, there was ample concern that the Dead were done and might not ever appear again, known now as the hiatus. Watched Grateful Dawg not long ago, it had been years, so refreshing, check it out if you have not seen it in a while. Though I stopped going to their shows after Lewiston 1980, I never stopped listening to the music. Thrilled to be at Dear Jerry, a place I had seen much music as a kid. Thankful to be on the bus for so much of what has been released. Every year at subscription time, I think of the large amount of GD music on the shelves and every year, I say hell no, I can't stop now.

For the most part, we are all here to celebrate music, especially the music we love so much. So... FYI, At the risk of presenting information that is a little stale, the following appeared in an industry publication over a year ago:

The Dead’s business brain trust is a collective of stakeholders including all the remaining band members (Lesh, Weir, Kreutzmann and Hart), represented by their individual managers; members of Garcia’s family (Marc Allan of Red Light Management oversees Garcia’s musical output); and the band’s management, Bernie Cahill at Activist Artists Management and industry veteran Kraig Fox. All are card-carrying Deadheads for whom preserving, not perverting, the legacy is paramount.

According to sources familiar with the band’s finances, the Dead could easily command $150 million for rights to its name, likeness and IP.

It’s proof positive that nostalgia factors greatly in the business of the Dead, not just emotionally but with a steady stream of products. “I find it super exciting,” says Mark Pinkus, president of Rhino Records, the Warner Music Group label that houses all of the Grateful Dead catalog. “The band is very unique in that it has iconography that is striking and timeless.”

There's a snapshot only, from an industry publication.

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Jeez I've read a lot of nonsensical comments so far...are these the grandchildren of the clown in the GD movie complaining about being filmed? they are so wrong (except about Donna of course) about it all....AND HAPPY BICYCLE DAY FOLKS!!! And thank you Dr. Hoffman....I will get my bonus disc as I am a subscriber and I also ordered one ala carte for one of my tech challenged buddies (we're old)...Hasta all...

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I have given enough money to the GD and should probably stop subscribing. I havent been in "the zone" for a few months now and have been finding GD tiresome.

And where in dafuq is 6 10 73?!?

But I will subscribe again. Elitist or not.

Someday the GD buzz will come back.

"The whole universe is completely insane!"

"Yep."

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Not trying to stir the pot but i don't know if the bonus disc info going around is correct. DL usually packs these babies with as much music as possible. The tracks listed here for bonus disc don't seem to fit that. Oh well, find out soon enough!! Stay Grateful....and yeah, subscribe!!!! Best deal around!

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I for one am thankful for all of these releases. Time and Time again I will listen to an official release and marvel at the sound quality they've engineered from old tapes. There are rough spots, but overall they are stunning. They sound better than they would have sounded 30 years ago, thanks to amazing computer technology. Sometimes I just shake my head in amazement (with tears in my eyes) that so much of this material was recorded and salvaged, and I feel fortunate that I can experience it in such quality, sitting by the pool with a buzz and a beer on a warm summer evening. All of this could have easily been ignored and lost......how lucky we are!

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my dog has no nose!

"No nose? How does she smell?"

Bloomin' awful!

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D bowie Lodger
D bowie Scary Monsters
Swans Cop

uhhhh....

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I know you were just trolling but I have to say…nothing. Enjoy your sad, meaningless life Skippy, Lord knows you deserve it!!

To everyone else…I missed the first bonus disc that came with the final year of Road Trips, and, dammit, I haven’t missed another one since. That’s called live and learn.
Someone was nice enough to burn me a copy, but I sure would love to have a physical copy. Maybe I’ll get lucky one day.
I’m excited to hear this show(and bonus), I’ve not heard it previously. Someone commented that there weren’t enough tracks to fill the bonus disc. 7 tracks is plenty, if that’s a 35 minute Playing In The Band. This one really feels like a long time coming.
And yes, it’s always nice to get a new thread. Stay safe all, and if you don’t play Dead, for God’s sake, play SOMETHING!!

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