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    One more Saturday night at Winterland! Yes, we're back to home base for DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 42, the complete show from Winterland, San Francisco, 2/23/74. The one that featured the earliest amalgamation of what would soon become the Wall of Sound, the one that is so "loud, clear, and defined," it's been ripe for release for quite some time and we're glad it's finally getting its due.

    First set or second, there are no wrong answers here. From the unique show opener of Chuck Berry's "Around And Around" and an incredible "Here Comes Sunshine" that would then disappear for 18 years, to a medley of WAKE OF THE FLOOD tracks - "Row Jimmy," "Weather Report Suite," and "Stella Blue" - cementing their status in the canon and an unstoppable hour through the classic 1973-1974 Dead that is “He’s Gone”>“Truckin’”>“Drums”>“The Other One”>“Eyes Of The World,” it's all exceptionally hot.

    Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 42: WINTERLAND, SAN FRANCISCO, 2/23/74 was recorded by Kidd Candelario and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. Grab a copy while you can.

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  • Vguy72
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    Soooo....

    ....have any of you heard of Goose? Deep topic in my reddit feeds.

  • Vguy72
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    So, I stumbled across J.J. Cale today....

    ....be right back. Gotta listen to more of this guy. Has he been mentioned here before? If not, that's a damn shame.
    Piano players you say? That Page McConnell guy from that band from Vermont is pretty good. ✌️

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    Jazz Piano

    Try The Giovanni Guidi Trio for some fine Italian piano based jazz. The City of Broken Dreams and This is the Day are well worth listening to...enjoying all the jazz talk!

  • nitecat
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    Good old grateful podcast - Europe 72

    I have been listening to this podcast from it's first season. Currently it is covering the Europe 72 tour, show by show, venue by venue, days off adventures, with marvelous interviews with those of the 42 person entourage who were literally 'on the bus'. Wonderful stories abound, including great backstories of the new songs that made it to the official Europe 72 LP. Today I heard a great breakdown of all the characters referred to in Ramble on Rose, and the history of Morning Dew.

    This podcast is making me consider going through the trunk again, this time just enjoying all the long jams.

    PS Really enjoy all the discussion of Jazz masters. McCoy Tyner is one of my faves-seen him several times at Yoshies in Oakland. He used to play two week stands there right around my birthday. I would have a small birthday gathering of friends there, eating sushi, then we'd all go see the show. One time my friend passed him a note, and McCoy announced my name and it was my birthday! Sweet memories!

    Someone on this forum mentioned Charles Mingus at Carnegie Hall a few months ago. I picked it up, nice mellow jazz, with a great pianist, Don Pullen. I really enjoy this and now I'm considering some of the other recommendations from you jazzy folk! Thanks for the great conversation.

  • proudfoot
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    Yo Dave

    Where are you???

  • 1stshow70878
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    A Couple Of Specifics...

    for Oro. Maybe already mentioned under the solo smooth background category.
    George Winston - my personal favorite is his Linus & Lucy, The Music of Vince Guaraldi (a S.F. guy) who we all probably know subconsciously as he wrote Charlie Brown TV specials music.
    - also his Forest release.
    - any duet with Gary Burton (vibes) and Chick Corea.
    Cheers

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    more piano jazz

    others that might not have already been noted:

    Kenny Barron, Paul Bley, Bill Charlap, Red Garland, Errol Garner, Fred Hersch, Steve Kuhn, Mulgrew Miller, Marcus Roberts

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    piano and vibes

    am so far behind responding to content, blocked by some kind of captcha issue, will try to add something worthwhile after reviewing almost three weeks of posts, distill as much as possible...

    First unfinished business, HF, my most sincere condolences on your recent loss. That is about where i fell off the bus.

    Love all the recent input on various music, where to start, many great players already noted.

    Am a big fan of Bobby Hutcherson on vibes.

    Very fortunate to see/hear in person: Keith Jarrett, Chick Corea, McCoy Tyner, Brad Mehldau, Otis Spahn. Will add a few slightly under the radar others soon. Piano is among the most difficult instruments to reproduce in full glory, even the best recordings, so its worth it to make the effort to hear a virtuoso play a great instrument. If you enjoy barrel house, check out Champion Jack Dupree.

    Zappa is an acquired taste for some, quirky, brilliant. Back in the day, typically found the MoI too goofy, but Hots Rats hooked me into checking everything else out since. I particularly enjoy the first cut on his 1988 Guitar release, a great blues/rock riff oddly titled, "Sexual Harassment in the Workplace". It just burns so hot.

    Have a part time summer job, where I recently came to know a Jamaican guy who is up just for the summer to earn money for family. We are discussing Reggae music, some of the less well known artists. Yet another influence for our favorite band. Made me dig out stuff not heard forever, brother worked for a Reggae music company, ample stuff here. There's a jam guy known as the Mad Professor, music only, no lyrics. Burning Spear is on a farewell tour and will be playing in Boston at the HoB August 5th. For a vague attempt at relating any content to sports, the HoB is located just the other side of the Green Monster, that's right, next to Fenway.

    cheers

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    My very first album, which I had forgotten about till this discussion on piano players, was "The World of Winifred Atwell", which my parents bought for me when I was about 10. Who she was, I know not. I think my parents had a 78 with her on which I liked. Solo rag time from what I can remember. I have just had a shufty in the attic to see if it's hidden away up there - but no luck so far. "James Last Goes Pop" - yes - but so far - no Winnie.

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    Murphy’s #$)(*=$ing law!

    Wow, what an awesome outpouring of good vibes and great tunes!
    We’ve hit some major references for Motown to Soul, to Soul Jazz to Jazz.
    My pea brain is gonna explode lol.

    But wouldn’t cha know, I really need to get some work done before “I take a short break” , so Murphy’s Law: so much to digest and discuss here but I don’t have time. But I will go through asap and reply to all the kind folks who made such great suggestions. Thanks to all, I don’t care what anyone says you guys are awright!

    Good to see Dennis, thought maybe he traded some of his collection for Stanley cup tix and was still on the road somewhere ; ) Please apologize to the wife for us as I’m sure the following pages will equal her CC getting hot thanks to us lol.

    HF: great story! Keep ‘em coming!

    MIKE: yeah lol, I am I a little overwhelmed, but in a good way!
    Not to sound ungrateful but I knew OF many of these folks, but was hoping perhaps folks could suggest the best or their favorite albums from some of these artists? Narrow down the focus for me. I recognize some of the fine suggestions from research I’ve done, like “the top 50 greatest must have albums” etc, but it’s always nice getting first hand reports from good folks in the know!

    It’ll probably take me a couple days to have proper time, but I’ll go through and make a list and poke around, and come back with some more specific questions.
    But “I gotta get down, to the miiiiiinnnnneeeee” hup, hup, nothing too it but to do it!
    Thanks all, great stuff lately!

    Hoping Mr Jimmies absence is due to just being busy doing more productive and enjoyable things and not hung up on too much “adult” BS! We miss you, your silence is deafening.

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One more Saturday night at Winterland! Yes, we're back to home base for DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 42, the complete show from Winterland, San Francisco, 2/23/74. The one that featured the earliest amalgamation of what would soon become the Wall of Sound, the one that is so "loud, clear, and defined," it's been ripe for release for quite some time and we're glad it's finally getting its due.

First set or second, there are no wrong answers here. From the unique show opener of Chuck Berry's "Around And Around" and an incredible "Here Comes Sunshine" that would then disappear for 18 years, to a medley of WAKE OF THE FLOOD tracks - "Row Jimmy," "Weather Report Suite," and "Stella Blue" - cementing their status in the canon and an unstoppable hour through the classic 1973-1974 Dead that is “He’s Gone”>“Truckin’”>“Drums”>“The Other One”>“Eyes Of The World,” it's all exceptionally hot.

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 42: WINTERLAND, SAN FRANCISCO, 2/23/74 was recorded by Kidd Candelario and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. Grab a copy while you can.

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First comment!
Psyched for this one, wish we knew bonus tracks?

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I see someone's unfamiliar with the GD: "listening party" says 1971.

c'mon...

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So great skating on a fresh sheet of ice, or writing on a fresh comment board!

Great set, great artwork, from a truly great band!

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I think it was announced way back as
US Blues
It Must Have been the Roses
Playing
Ship of Fools
China > Rider
Uncle Johns Band
I think three are first time performances
Vguy
glad you got your glass I got one too since I was shut out a few issues ago
drp out

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Listen to the open of “Here Comes Sunshine” and to hear Donna immediately go off key just ruins it. They could keep her honest in the studio but live, forget about it. Saw many shows of that era. It was always a relief when she left the stage. It’s a shame, that was peak musically for them

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I also would like to thank Rhino & Warner Music Group for getting Dave a new camera. I know it's primary use is for business promotional purposes & I hope it serves that function well......In all seriousness I am thankful for all these releases, but I really do not care that it took a year for Rhino to upgrade Dave's equipment. If anything that's somewhat ridiculous. Sorry if I'm killing the positive vibes here. I am very much looking forward to receiving this release & I have no beef with David L.

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....I'm in.

And, the glass.

Sixtus

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That's a shame for something thats limited. Why not one each?

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I'm in (w/ the bonus disc). I'm not going to be caught at the next get together without my Winterland '74 highball glass. As for '74 (and I guess the glass too), If it makes you happy, it can't be that bad.

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Can I get this on vinyl?

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Can I get this on vinyl?

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Let's do this!!!!
ALWAYS PLAY DEAD
PLAY DEAD LOUD

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First year subscriber. Odd putting that US Blues from another era in the middle of the show, but that pick 41 was fantastic! This one looks great too. I miss the days of buying albums and now stream most of my music that is not on my 60 gig iPod (yeah I’m old). So it is a treat to get a cd in the mail, crank it up, have a beer, read the liner notes, etc. Can’t wait til 42 arrives. Thanks Dave.

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That was easy enough. I saw a lot of great shows in Winterland. Hopefully , one of the next 2 Dave's Picks will be from 1970 or earlier.

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Love to see what the bonus cover is like - hopefully a close-up of the ship with the WOS in the Rigging - reminds me of the "No Friggin' in the Riggin'" T-Shirt I had childhood adolescence.

Totally regret reacting slow on the Thelma T, sold out when I went to pull the trigger. That one is awesome, wish there was a reprint...

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Glass ordered.

If I read right, are you only getting the bonus disc is you subscribe, not if you buy ala carte?

The listening party sounds GREAT, shame some Donna shaming already.

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gimme gimme gimme.

Sixtus good seeing you.

That Mike: did you get the Allman's FoxBox? If you did, hope you enjoyed...

Great stuff - 1974 is one of my favourite years. As I understand it, the bonus disc is only for people who subscribe, which rules me out as I bought mine a la carte. But that's alright, mama, that's alright with me.

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Yes, I did get the Allman’s Fox Box, and it Rox!

I remember you mentioned you saw these shows - I’ll bet the ABB just rocked that old theatre, because they sound like fantastic recordings!

Oro - nice job hitting the ice first!! Touché, sir!

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.... I can hear the WOS all the way over here in Michigan. Sounds great! :-D

Too bad it will take three months for the glass to catch up.

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Part of the 2022 subscription. If you didn’t order the subscription, you can order it now a la carte

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I usually hit the ice first…face first that is ; )

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If this is not bull crap what is - the bonus disc used to be pre - order , now it is subscription based ? wow how the capitalists scum bags have stolen the ethos of the Grateful Dead - free concerts being sold is cool,someone had to remix them OK , a bonus disc for pre orders is an encouragement to order early, FINE
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- a bonus disc only for subscriptions is BULL SH*T 100% elitist and ugly - I hope you guys are paying the families of the tapers for the recordings if every penny is being collected - DEAD.net is now as ugly as TRUMP.ORG - are you going to sell membership cards next ?

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From my cassette/Internet Archive digitization project:
GOGD Red Rocks 9/8/83
GOGD Watsonville 9/25/83 - a great outdoor show with an awesome China Rider.
Digitizing for a friend:
Fela and his 35 piece afro-beat orchestra, Berkeley Community Theater 11/14/86

GOGD St Louis 10/29/73 - Powerful Eyes of the World into China Doll
The Byrds - The Notorious Bird Brothers - a psychedelic masterpiece

I'm reading Chris Hillman's autobiography " Time Between" which inspired me to provide a Byrds music background. It's pretty good, and it's interesting to read his description of working and living with Gram Parson as they teamed up as the Burrito Brothers.

subscriptions were last year and it was an ok sale price but Dick's Picks has some lemons - I figured to avoid lemons like Edition #39 which was ugly - I would pre-order - but no bonus disc now, those are only for those that buy blindly into a subscription and is imho - UGLY and WRONG

Every member of the band is a millionaire and the road crew famously got paid well by the band - why are they squeezing us for every cent to get the music ?? pre order for a bonus disc - sure like the best seats in the house you have to be in line early - but subscription only - Does Bobby and the living members know about this ?? I doubt it - this is GREED

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Skyscraper - I hate to be the bearer of bad tidings, but it's no longer possible to take a subscription out for 2022. You can only do that for a limited period of time from when the first two releases in the series are named - 'round about November of the preceding year in question, I think.
Hey - how about this for a last 5 -
From Western Swing To Rock cd 1.........Bill Haley and various bands
Complete Motown Singles Volume 7 cd 4 - 1967.......Various
Jerry Lee Lewis at Sun Records Collected Works cd 11.........Jerry Lee Lewis
1st Album..........The Stooges
Stax Volt Singles 1959-1968 cd 2........Various

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Wow! That's one clear, and great sounding eyes. I can't wait for this one, and the bonus disk too. You have got to subscribe to get the whole enchilada.

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Recorded by Kidd from the 2/22/74 performance.

U.S. Blues
Must've Been the Roses
Playing in the Band
Ship o Fools
China Cat Sunflower >
I Know You Rider
Uncle John's Band

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Chill out on the corporate greed baloney. $99, and some change for 4 complete shows,and a bonus disk. It does not get any better for 4 live unreleased limited shows of luxurious music Xanadu.

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I decided to order the glass for the first time. Use it ? ........Display it ?........I got plenty of time to decide. I'll have to stay away from the chat until after I play #42 and the Bonus. I never check out any of the setlists before listening and already may know more that I want to. This is the 44th anniversary of the first Werewolves, and I was there. The only time I was at a "first time played" show. I also took some very nice black and white photos from the show, which I still have. Very cool to see how the band positions were different during tours.

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Ted

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I could be wrong, but I don't recall the bonus disc ever being included with pre-orders; always has been for subscribers only.
By the way, I just got off the phone with Bobby and he's fully aware of the situation; he doesn't care though, he bought his own subscription back in November to make sure he got the bonus disc.

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Seriously, now folks, anyone who can show up TODAY and whine about a 1974 release or find time to diss Donna Jean is really just a comment on their own miserable lives.

Can't you see the sign? NO POOPING HERE! And the fine print: If you must, do it in your own shorts.

Happy to have the show and bonus disc. Many thanks to the team for putting this out. Glad to see the usual crowd digging on what'll be a fantastic 5+ hours of prime GD.

That is all...

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Bonus Discs have been for Subscriptions only since the beginning.

Nice!!!

Lot of hardwork in digitizing, thanks for the effort.

Maybe one day I can hear some. 1983 on Archive?

G

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Recall that just eight months or so later, after this show, there was ample concern that the Dead were done and might not ever appear again, known now as the hiatus. Watched Grateful Dawg not long ago, it had been years, so refreshing, check it out if you have not seen it in a while. Though I stopped going to their shows after Lewiston 1980, I never stopped listening to the music. Thrilled to be at Dear Jerry, a place I had seen much music as a kid. Thankful to be on the bus for so much of what has been released. Every year at subscription time, I think of the large amount of GD music on the shelves and every year, I say hell no, I can't stop now.

For the most part, we are all here to celebrate music, especially the music we love so much. So... FYI, At the risk of presenting information that is a little stale, the following appeared in an industry publication over a year ago:

The Dead’s business brain trust is a collective of stakeholders including all the remaining band members (Lesh, Weir, Kreutzmann and Hart), represented by their individual managers; members of Garcia’s family (Marc Allan of Red Light Management oversees Garcia’s musical output); and the band’s management, Bernie Cahill at Activist Artists Management and industry veteran Kraig Fox. All are card-carrying Deadheads for whom preserving, not perverting, the legacy is paramount.

According to sources familiar with the band’s finances, the Dead could easily command $150 million for rights to its name, likeness and IP.

It’s proof positive that nostalgia factors greatly in the business of the Dead, not just emotionally but with a steady stream of products. “I find it super exciting,” says Mark Pinkus, president of Rhino Records, the Warner Music Group label that houses all of the Grateful Dead catalog. “The band is very unique in that it has iconography that is striking and timeless.”

There's a snapshot only, from an industry publication.

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Jeez I've read a lot of nonsensical comments so far...are these the grandchildren of the clown in the GD movie complaining about being filmed? they are so wrong (except about Donna of course) about it all....AND HAPPY BICYCLE DAY FOLKS!!! And thank you Dr. Hoffman....I will get my bonus disc as I am a subscriber and I also ordered one ala carte for one of my tech challenged buddies (we're old)...Hasta all...

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I have given enough money to the GD and should probably stop subscribing. I havent been in "the zone" for a few months now and have been finding GD tiresome.

And where in dafuq is 6 10 73?!?

But I will subscribe again. Elitist or not.

Someday the GD buzz will come back.

"The whole universe is completely insane!"

"Yep."

Mr. Natural

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Not trying to stir the pot but i don't know if the bonus disc info going around is correct. DL usually packs these babies with as much music as possible. The tracks listed here for bonus disc don't seem to fit that. Oh well, find out soon enough!! Stay Grateful....and yeah, subscribe!!!! Best deal around!

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I for one am thankful for all of these releases. Time and Time again I will listen to an official release and marvel at the sound quality they've engineered from old tapes. There are rough spots, but overall they are stunning. They sound better than they would have sounded 30 years ago, thanks to amazing computer technology. Sometimes I just shake my head in amazement (with tears in my eyes) that so much of this material was recorded and salvaged, and I feel fortunate that I can experience it in such quality, sitting by the pool with a buzz and a beer on a warm summer evening. All of this could have easily been ignored and lost......how lucky we are!

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my dog has no nose!

"No nose? How does she smell?"

Bloomin' awful!

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D bowie Lodger
D bowie Scary Monsters
Swans Cop

uhhhh....

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I know you were just trolling but I have to say…nothing. Enjoy your sad, meaningless life Skippy, Lord knows you deserve it!!

To everyone else…I missed the first bonus disc that came with the final year of Road Trips, and, dammit, I haven’t missed another one since. That’s called live and learn.
Someone was nice enough to burn me a copy, but I sure would love to have a physical copy. Maybe I’ll get lucky one day.
I’m excited to hear this show(and bonus), I’ve not heard it previously. Someone commented that there weren’t enough tracks to fill the bonus disc. 7 tracks is plenty, if that’s a 35 minute Playing In The Band. This one really feels like a long time coming.
And yes, it’s always nice to get a new thread. Stay safe all, and if you don’t play Dead, for God’s sake, play SOMETHING!!

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