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    One more Saturday night at Winterland! Yes, we're back to home base for DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 42, the complete show from Winterland, San Francisco, 2/23/74. The one that featured the earliest amalgamation of what would soon become the Wall of Sound, the one that is so "loud, clear, and defined," it's been ripe for release for quite some time and we're glad it's finally getting its due.

    First set or second, there are no wrong answers here. From the unique show opener of Chuck Berry's "Around And Around" and an incredible "Here Comes Sunshine" that would then disappear for 18 years, to a medley of WAKE OF THE FLOOD tracks - "Row Jimmy," "Weather Report Suite," and "Stella Blue" - cementing their status in the canon and an unstoppable hour through the classic 1973-1974 Dead that is “He’s Gone”>“Truckin’”>“Drums”>“The Other One”>“Eyes Of The World,” it's all exceptionally hot.

    Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 42: WINTERLAND, SAN FRANCISCO, 2/23/74 was recorded by Kidd Candelario and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. Grab a copy while you can.

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  • Oroborous
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    Jon Evison, that’s the one, cool guy and perhaps my favorite “modern” author.
    I’ve thoroughly enjoyed all his work, but West of Here is amazing, I love historic fiction!
    Really funny, and knowledgeable, and super nice. We had the pleasure to meet and tip a few with him on a couple occasions. He even sent us schwag!

    The Knack, lol, Wow, there’s a blast from the past!
    No offense intended, (just going for a laugh) but first thing pops into my demented mind was the spoof “my scrotum” by I believe Cheech Marin?

  • Mr. Ones
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    I don’t mind any topics, I’m just not too talkative during topics I don’t relate to as well as others.
    Like most, music is my favorite topic here, especially when I get turned on to something new!! More on that later.
    I have loved reading since I was 5 years old. I had a sister 4 years older who taught me to read before I started school. What a gift that was. Oddly, I love sci-fi TV & Movies, but never enjoyed reading it. I strongly favor non-fiction, biographies, history and the like. I read a lot of bios of musicians. Currently about 150 pages in to the new Bill Frisell bio. Doesn’t get much better than that for me. I occasionally read fiction, usually when it’s written by Nick Hornby, my favorite current writer by a mile.
    My sports fanatic dad pretty much insured that I would become one too. One of my fave stories to tell, to describe how when an evening has a conflict between a sporting event and a concert…let’s just say one September evening in 1979, I gave up World Series tickets to see The Knack in DC.
    (The game was postponed and I got to see it the next night).
    DAVEROCK, I finally got a copy of the afore mentioned 5-disc set. It is even better than you described. Only 3 discs in, but excited to continue on-Thanks for the great tip!!

    Last 5:

    Think I’m Going Weird-Disc 3
    “”””””""””””””””””””””””””””””-Disc 2
    “””””””"””””””””””””””””””””””-Disc 1
    Pieces of Jade-Scott LaFaro
    At Your Birthday Party-Steppenwolf

    Music is the Best!!!!!!

  • Angry Jack Straw
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    Billy - I forgot about hiking. About ten years ago, I took my daughters on a trip down the Pacific Coast highway starting in San Francisco and ending in San Diego. Riding in a Ford Mustang convertible of course. To this day, the highlight of the entire trip for them was hiking Hawk Hill. No lie. They still talk about it.

    Dave - great authors are a rarity. You are correct. Best to enjoy them slowly. I just finished a Steinbeck kick. That dude can write. Looking forward to Dickens.

    Oro - it did get chippy out there. Especially Draisaitl. With all that talent there is no need for it. You'll become the next Marchand. Not cool at all.

    Also, are you referring to Jon Evison who wrote "West of Here"? If so, I am half way through his new book, Small World. That is pretty ironic. I never heard of him until a few weeks ago.

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    Boblopes - that is the very copy of PKD's short stories that I am reading. I got the single volume "Selected Stories" which is a beautiful book and a great selection. My eyes nearly popped out of my head when I saw that Complete Short Stories edition advertised last year. I made the big mistake of discussing it with a friend first, and showing it to her online. She was very disapproving - I stalled - and the next thing I knew, it had sold out. Now it is advertised on ebay for twice it's original price. Still - it was really expensive.
    The next two on my list are "Something Wicked This Way Comes" by Ray Bradbury and the two in one "Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep" and "A Scanner Darkly" by PKD.
    I discovered the Folio Society about 15 years ago - beautiful books, and because people who buy them tend to look after them, you can sometimes find second hand copies which are in mint condition.
    But never the ones by science fiction authors, unfortunately. Second hand copies of those are usually advertised at two or three time their original price.
    Never though I'd see reference to The Folio Society on here!

  • Oroborous
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    Just read a great debut novel: Raft of Stars by Andrew Graff.
    Nice little sorta old fashion (in a good way) one day read.
    The biggest thing I find that influences my read opinions nowadays is the ending. I’ve read many books the last few years that are great, until the end. Some of these authors are really good, but as my buddy Jon Evison would say they just can’t get outta the way of their own coffee breath.
    Now admittedly I do like a nice clean ending with loose ends tied up etc, but it’s not necessary if the book is really good otherwise. But I hate when your left gaping, wondering what the hell just happened. Like your watching a really intense movie, and right at the big crescendo, the cable or internet goes out! Dooaahh!
    This one has a good ending, but perhaps goes a little over the top? I guess that’s for the reader to decide?
    Probably my only slight criticism.
    Great characters, some who get a interesting treatment of self analyzation, plot moves along nicely as the tension builds, all without going on too long.

    HOCKEY: sorry to the folks who get riled, it’ll all be over soon and it’s not like this place has been a hot bed of GD lately.

    PROUDFOOT: as AJ states, like the Dead, hockey can be an acquired taste. The regular season can sometimes get tedious and you can tell the players sometimes dial it in, but not as bad as baseball.
    But the Stanley Cup playoffs are often the best sports there is (imho), at least in North America.
    Most of the games this year have been incredibly exciting. Think Super bowl energy sustained over the course of several weeks. Perhaps like the final four or NBA finals? So watch the playoffs to get an idea of what hockey can be like at its best. If you don’t like it, ce la vie, hey, there’s always the GOGD if nothing else!

    VGUY: curious if you’ve been enjoying this years action even though your beloved K-nits are not playing?

    AJ: that’s why they call them the Avalanche: one minute it’s all calm and sunny, next a fast wall of terror rains down and moneys missing from yer dresser, your daughters knocked up, and your GD HD won’t work!
    Yep, zero zero, then Whooosshh seconds later 3 zip!
    And hey, who has a hotter Ice Crew!
    The Oilers we’re doing a fine job of controlling the AVs in the first, though perhaps getting a little goonish? Thought there were some questionable non calls? Unfortunately, late in the game Kane and company definitely were going too far. I get the whole need to maintain respect etc, but it’s the conference finals FFS. Hope things don’t start going too far and someone gets hurt.
    And what about Frankie? Thought he did a good job in the first series, but I was a little unsettled by his last outing. Last night he did a great job and it’s fun to see how the fans love him. Really curious what’s up with Kuemper? He didn’t seem distressed and actually kept playing for a bit before he left so wondering what’s up?
    Tonight should be really interesting to see if the Rangers are for real, or if game one was a fluke?

    BOBLOPES: good to see ya back in the rotation here. Never been a huge sci-fi fan, but did read (at least?) the first Dune book like 40 years ago. Not sure about the others. Same with Hitch Hikers Guide. Theodore Sturgeon’s More Than Human that influenced how the GD became what they are has always been my favorite. Always been a big believer in Gestalt theory. The Stand was another good one I read back then, should reread since Covid.
    Rut roh, the B’s, LOL as THATMIKE says “your off the Xmass card list”

    Speaking of, what happened to Mike? Curious about his current hockey thoughts, and always his musical thoughts too. Hopefully he’s not having severe depression, like after the funeral is over and everyone goes home and now yer all alone to cope

    FYI, JIMS currently outta the office, er a, the loop here as he needs to maximize every once of big water he can while the gettin’s good. He’ll be back before ya know it and with a new relaxed perspective that comes from the satiated fulfilled contentment that comes from exhausting yourself doing things you love! Kinda like after dancing yer ares off after THAT dead show! Better than therapy and at a fraction of the cost!

    It’s Friday good people, summers here (sorta) and the time is right for dancing in the streets! Hopefully Oroboros and others have been having a gas at Jrad!
    GAME ON!

    Dear captcha, thanks for wasting yet another half hour of my life with yer ridiculous (because of your flaws) nonsense that only seems to stymie DHs just trying to connect and communicate in spite of the lousy format that is the internet.

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    This is the hottest band in the land and has been for 10 years. By all means, go with an open mind. They'll rock your socks off.

    That is all.

  • boblopes
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    Discovered Folio Society last fall and been rediscovering my favorite Science Fiction books I have not read in 30 years, along with reading the Ian Fleming books for the first time. Sort of like the yearly releases here, very nice editions but pricey. I get to experience your shipping woes in reverse (minus the VAT).

    Folio Society just came out with a nice edition of PKD's short stories. I think they had a Limited Edition set of all of PKD's short stories, but that sold out long before I discovered them and was too pricey for my budget...

    Halfway through The Handmaids Tale (1st read). Next up will be Moonraker, then deciding between Dune or Foundation Trilogy (both re-reads).

    Still have some of the 4 disc E72 Germany shows to go thru, but finished strong with all four Lyceum shows on their anniversary date. Did a little blast thru the three cd's of Kate Bush due to Stranger Things the last couple of days.

    Rooting for the Celtics in The Finals and hoping The Oilers bounce back. Sad to see the B's get bounced. Suspect it's Bergeron's last season wearing the Spoked B. Would like to see a Canadian Team win some year (as long as it's not the HABs or the Canucks). My preference would be The Leafs if the B's are out.

    Played Disc Golf for the first time in 30 years. Bought 2 beginner sets for my daughter and I and we went for the toss and walk last Sunday. Last time I played was in 1990 when my college concert crew and I road-tripped to see another buddy who lived in DC. It was a whirlwind trip. Did the monument tour, visited the Whitehouse, a session of both the House of Rep and Senate. We walked around Georgetown and saw BobW walking around there and headed off to play Disc Golf. The next day got to see my first Dark Star hitting the monsoon that was RFK on 7/12/90. Pretty sure Jimbo was at that show.

  • Dennis
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    Side Note,,, what else?

    Just got mail about the Jerry Garcia Before the Dead. They've release in limited vinyl. They're 150,,,, amazon had some seem as high as 450?? Not sure why.

    They seem like they are limited, but the amazon ads seem old,,,, the jerry site says back in stock?!?

    I ordered,,,, I have the cd set and have always like it, so what the hell.

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    It's the best way. I'm wading through PK Dick's short stories, and I'm in no hurry to finish. Both Dick and Dickens are worlds to get lost in.

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    Beer, bbq, blues music, sports, and hiking in the hills around the Bay Area .

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One more Saturday night at Winterland! Yes, we're back to home base for DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 42, the complete show from Winterland, San Francisco, 2/23/74. The one that featured the earliest amalgamation of what would soon become the Wall of Sound, the one that is so "loud, clear, and defined," it's been ripe for release for quite some time and we're glad it's finally getting its due.

First set or second, there are no wrong answers here. From the unique show opener of Chuck Berry's "Around And Around" and an incredible "Here Comes Sunshine" that would then disappear for 18 years, to a medley of WAKE OF THE FLOOD tracks - "Row Jimmy," "Weather Report Suite," and "Stella Blue" - cementing their status in the canon and an unstoppable hour through the classic 1973-1974 Dead that is “He’s Gone”>“Truckin’”>“Drums”>“The Other One”>“Eyes Of The World,” it's all exceptionally hot.

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 42: WINTERLAND, SAN FRANCISCO, 2/23/74 was recorded by Kidd Candelario and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. Grab a copy while you can.

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First comment!
Psyched for this one, wish we knew bonus tracks?

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I see someone's unfamiliar with the GD: "listening party" says 1971.

c'mon...

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So great skating on a fresh sheet of ice, or writing on a fresh comment board!

Great set, great artwork, from a truly great band!

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I think it was announced way back as
US Blues
It Must Have been the Roses
Playing
Ship of Fools
China > Rider
Uncle Johns Band
I think three are first time performances
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glad you got your glass I got one too since I was shut out a few issues ago
drp out

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Listen to the open of “Here Comes Sunshine” and to hear Donna immediately go off key just ruins it. They could keep her honest in the studio but live, forget about it. Saw many shows of that era. It was always a relief when she left the stage. It’s a shame, that was peak musically for them

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I also would like to thank Rhino & Warner Music Group for getting Dave a new camera. I know it's primary use is for business promotional purposes & I hope it serves that function well......In all seriousness I am thankful for all these releases, but I really do not care that it took a year for Rhino to upgrade Dave's equipment. If anything that's somewhat ridiculous. Sorry if I'm killing the positive vibes here. I am very much looking forward to receiving this release & I have no beef with David L.

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....I'm in.

And, the glass.

Sixtus

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That's a shame for something thats limited. Why not one each?

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I'm in (w/ the bonus disc). I'm not going to be caught at the next get together without my Winterland '74 highball glass. As for '74 (and I guess the glass too), If it makes you happy, it can't be that bad.

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Can I get this on vinyl?

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Can I get this on vinyl?

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Let's do this!!!!
ALWAYS PLAY DEAD
PLAY DEAD LOUD

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First year subscriber. Odd putting that US Blues from another era in the middle of the show, but that pick 41 was fantastic! This one looks great too. I miss the days of buying albums and now stream most of my music that is not on my 60 gig iPod (yeah I’m old). So it is a treat to get a cd in the mail, crank it up, have a beer, read the liner notes, etc. Can’t wait til 42 arrives. Thanks Dave.

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That was easy enough. I saw a lot of great shows in Winterland. Hopefully , one of the next 2 Dave's Picks will be from 1970 or earlier.

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Love to see what the bonus cover is like - hopefully a close-up of the ship with the WOS in the Rigging - reminds me of the "No Friggin' in the Riggin'" T-Shirt I had childhood adolescence.

Totally regret reacting slow on the Thelma T, sold out when I went to pull the trigger. That one is awesome, wish there was a reprint...

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Glass ordered.

If I read right, are you only getting the bonus disc is you subscribe, not if you buy ala carte?

The listening party sounds GREAT, shame some Donna shaming already.

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gimme gimme gimme.

Sixtus good seeing you.

That Mike: did you get the Allman's FoxBox? If you did, hope you enjoyed...

Great stuff - 1974 is one of my favourite years. As I understand it, the bonus disc is only for people who subscribe, which rules me out as I bought mine a la carte. But that's alright, mama, that's alright with me.

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Yes, I did get the Allman’s Fox Box, and it Rox!

I remember you mentioned you saw these shows - I’ll bet the ABB just rocked that old theatre, because they sound like fantastic recordings!

Oro - nice job hitting the ice first!! Touché, sir!

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.... I can hear the WOS all the way over here in Michigan. Sounds great! :-D

Too bad it will take three months for the glass to catch up.

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Part of the 2022 subscription. If you didn’t order the subscription, you can order it now a la carte

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I usually hit the ice first…face first that is ; )

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If this is not bull crap what is - the bonus disc used to be pre - order , now it is subscription based ? wow how the capitalists scum bags have stolen the ethos of the Grateful Dead - free concerts being sold is cool,someone had to remix them OK , a bonus disc for pre orders is an encouragement to order early, FINE
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- a bonus disc only for subscriptions is BULL SH*T 100% elitist and ugly - I hope you guys are paying the families of the tapers for the recordings if every penny is being collected - DEAD.net is now as ugly as TRUMP.ORG - are you going to sell membership cards next ?

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From my cassette/Internet Archive digitization project:
GOGD Red Rocks 9/8/83
GOGD Watsonville 9/25/83 - a great outdoor show with an awesome China Rider.
Digitizing for a friend:
Fela and his 35 piece afro-beat orchestra, Berkeley Community Theater 11/14/86

GOGD St Louis 10/29/73 - Powerful Eyes of the World into China Doll
The Byrds - The Notorious Bird Brothers - a psychedelic masterpiece

I'm reading Chris Hillman's autobiography " Time Between" which inspired me to provide a Byrds music background. It's pretty good, and it's interesting to read his description of working and living with Gram Parson as they teamed up as the Burrito Brothers.

subscriptions were last year and it was an ok sale price but Dick's Picks has some lemons - I figured to avoid lemons like Edition #39 which was ugly - I would pre-order - but no bonus disc now, those are only for those that buy blindly into a subscription and is imho - UGLY and WRONG

Every member of the band is a millionaire and the road crew famously got paid well by the band - why are they squeezing us for every cent to get the music ?? pre order for a bonus disc - sure like the best seats in the house you have to be in line early - but subscription only - Does Bobby and the living members know about this ?? I doubt it - this is GREED

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Skyscraper - I hate to be the bearer of bad tidings, but it's no longer possible to take a subscription out for 2022. You can only do that for a limited period of time from when the first two releases in the series are named - 'round about November of the preceding year in question, I think.
Hey - how about this for a last 5 -
From Western Swing To Rock cd 1.........Bill Haley and various bands
Complete Motown Singles Volume 7 cd 4 - 1967.......Various
Jerry Lee Lewis at Sun Records Collected Works cd 11.........Jerry Lee Lewis
1st Album..........The Stooges
Stax Volt Singles 1959-1968 cd 2........Various

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Wow! That's one clear, and great sounding eyes. I can't wait for this one, and the bonus disk too. You have got to subscribe to get the whole enchilada.

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Recorded by Kidd from the 2/22/74 performance.

U.S. Blues
Must've Been the Roses
Playing in the Band
Ship o Fools
China Cat Sunflower >
I Know You Rider
Uncle John's Band

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Chill out on the corporate greed baloney. $99, and some change for 4 complete shows,and a bonus disk. It does not get any better for 4 live unreleased limited shows of luxurious music Xanadu.

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I decided to order the glass for the first time. Use it ? ........Display it ?........I got plenty of time to decide. I'll have to stay away from the chat until after I play #42 and the Bonus. I never check out any of the setlists before listening and already may know more that I want to. This is the 44th anniversary of the first Werewolves, and I was there. The only time I was at a "first time played" show. I also took some very nice black and white photos from the show, which I still have. Very cool to see how the band positions were different during tours.

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Ted

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I could be wrong, but I don't recall the bonus disc ever being included with pre-orders; always has been for subscribers only.
By the way, I just got off the phone with Bobby and he's fully aware of the situation; he doesn't care though, he bought his own subscription back in November to make sure he got the bonus disc.

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Seriously, now folks, anyone who can show up TODAY and whine about a 1974 release or find time to diss Donna Jean is really just a comment on their own miserable lives.

Can't you see the sign? NO POOPING HERE! And the fine print: If you must, do it in your own shorts.

Happy to have the show and bonus disc. Many thanks to the team for putting this out. Glad to see the usual crowd digging on what'll be a fantastic 5+ hours of prime GD.

That is all...

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Bonus Discs have been for Subscriptions only since the beginning.

Nice!!!

Lot of hardwork in digitizing, thanks for the effort.

Maybe one day I can hear some. 1983 on Archive?

G

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Recall that just eight months or so later, after this show, there was ample concern that the Dead were done and might not ever appear again, known now as the hiatus. Watched Grateful Dawg not long ago, it had been years, so refreshing, check it out if you have not seen it in a while. Though I stopped going to their shows after Lewiston 1980, I never stopped listening to the music. Thrilled to be at Dear Jerry, a place I had seen much music as a kid. Thankful to be on the bus for so much of what has been released. Every year at subscription time, I think of the large amount of GD music on the shelves and every year, I say hell no, I can't stop now.

For the most part, we are all here to celebrate music, especially the music we love so much. So... FYI, At the risk of presenting information that is a little stale, the following appeared in an industry publication over a year ago:

The Dead’s business brain trust is a collective of stakeholders including all the remaining band members (Lesh, Weir, Kreutzmann and Hart), represented by their individual managers; members of Garcia’s family (Marc Allan of Red Light Management oversees Garcia’s musical output); and the band’s management, Bernie Cahill at Activist Artists Management and industry veteran Kraig Fox. All are card-carrying Deadheads for whom preserving, not perverting, the legacy is paramount.

According to sources familiar with the band’s finances, the Dead could easily command $150 million for rights to its name, likeness and IP.

It’s proof positive that nostalgia factors greatly in the business of the Dead, not just emotionally but with a steady stream of products. “I find it super exciting,” says Mark Pinkus, president of Rhino Records, the Warner Music Group label that houses all of the Grateful Dead catalog. “The band is very unique in that it has iconography that is striking and timeless.”

There's a snapshot only, from an industry publication.

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Jeez I've read a lot of nonsensical comments so far...are these the grandchildren of the clown in the GD movie complaining about being filmed? they are so wrong (except about Donna of course) about it all....AND HAPPY BICYCLE DAY FOLKS!!! And thank you Dr. Hoffman....I will get my bonus disc as I am a subscriber and I also ordered one ala carte for one of my tech challenged buddies (we're old)...Hasta all...

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I have given enough money to the GD and should probably stop subscribing. I havent been in "the zone" for a few months now and have been finding GD tiresome.

And where in dafuq is 6 10 73?!?

But I will subscribe again. Elitist or not.

Someday the GD buzz will come back.

"The whole universe is completely insane!"

"Yep."

Mr. Natural

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Not trying to stir the pot but i don't know if the bonus disc info going around is correct. DL usually packs these babies with as much music as possible. The tracks listed here for bonus disc don't seem to fit that. Oh well, find out soon enough!! Stay Grateful....and yeah, subscribe!!!! Best deal around!

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I for one am thankful for all of these releases. Time and Time again I will listen to an official release and marvel at the sound quality they've engineered from old tapes. There are rough spots, but overall they are stunning. They sound better than they would have sounded 30 years ago, thanks to amazing computer technology. Sometimes I just shake my head in amazement (with tears in my eyes) that so much of this material was recorded and salvaged, and I feel fortunate that I can experience it in such quality, sitting by the pool with a buzz and a beer on a warm summer evening. All of this could have easily been ignored and lost......how lucky we are!

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my dog has no nose!

"No nose? How does she smell?"

Bloomin' awful!

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D bowie Lodger
D bowie Scary Monsters
Swans Cop

uhhhh....

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I know you were just trolling but I have to say…nothing. Enjoy your sad, meaningless life Skippy, Lord knows you deserve it!!

To everyone else…I missed the first bonus disc that came with the final year of Road Trips, and, dammit, I haven’t missed another one since. That’s called live and learn.
Someone was nice enough to burn me a copy, but I sure would love to have a physical copy. Maybe I’ll get lucky one day.
I’m excited to hear this show(and bonus), I’ve not heard it previously. Someone commented that there weren’t enough tracks to fill the bonus disc. 7 tracks is plenty, if that’s a 35 minute Playing In The Band. This one really feels like a long time coming.
And yes, it’s always nice to get a new thread. Stay safe all, and if you don’t play Dead, for God’s sake, play SOMETHING!!

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