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One more Saturday night at Winterland! Yes, we're back to home base for DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 42, the complete show from Winterland, San Francisco, 2/23/74. The one that featured the earliest amalgamation of what would soon become the Wall of Sound, the one that is so "loud, clear, and defined," it's been ripe for release for quite some time and we're glad it's finally getting its due.

First set or second, there are no wrong answers here. From the unique show opener of Chuck Berry's "Around And Around" and an incredible "Here Comes Sunshine" that would then disappear for 18 years, to a medley of WAKE OF THE FLOOD tracks - "Row Jimmy," "Weather Report Suite," and "Stella Blue" - cementing their status in the canon and an unstoppable hour through the classic 1973-1974 Dead that is “He’s Gone”>“Truckin’”>“Drums”>“The Other One”>“Eyes Of The World,” it's all exceptionally hot.

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 42: WINTERLAND, SAN FRANCISCO, 2/23/74 was recorded by Kidd Candelario and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. Grab a copy while you can.

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May 19, 2022 - 12:54pm

#1001

proudfoot

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Grundy

Huh huh

Thats what we called wedgies in my youthful youth
May 19, 2022 - 12:52pm

#1002

Oroborous

Joined:
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Right on Bluecrow

Check your PM
May 19, 2022 - 12:44pm

#1003

bluecrow

Joined:
September 21, 2015

Eric Nesterenko

that's a name I haven't heard for ages and instantly recognized. Nesterenko was a core player with the Blackhawks when I was a kid. Bobby Hull, Stan Mikita, Pit Martin, Tony Esposito and others. Legends. Born in Flin Flon, Manitoba (Flin Flon - what a cool name). Parents were Ukranian immigrants.
May 19, 2022 - 10:47am

#1004

daverock

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Johnny Rotten wasn't so hard

I met him once. Sort of. It was at the Electric Circus in Manchester in December 1976 a few days after the interview with Bill Grundy had been broadcast on television. There were 4 bands on that night, and the Sex Pistols were last on. I went on my own.
Between bands I went to the bar upstairs for a pint and a breather. It was virtually empty - but the Pistols were there, talking to some girls at the bar. I got my drink and slumped down..and then got the feeling someone was looking at me. I looked at the next table, and it was Johnny Rotten , also sitting on his own. I mumbled a greeting, and he mumbled one back. Then he re joined the band and they went on. Not exactly great meetings of our time.

Despite the fact that he had short hair and...well he was a punk....and I had very long hair and looked like - well I don't know what I looked like - but I sensed that we were cut from the same cloth at that time. Both about 19, skinny, mad..
I'm glad Sid Vicious wasn't there, though.
May 19, 2022 - 10:27am

#1005

Oroborous

Joined:
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Mr Smith, and Hockey of course ; )

Wow, beyond cool Jeff! Those windows and that story was awesome! I can relate to egos, rich folk, and crazy deadlines. Fortunately I don’t have to deal with those so much anymore. Like y’all didn’t have enough to deal with without some DB mucking up the works. Shoulda dosed him lol. Seems like you’ve found the hard to get niche of art and commerce that’s cool and invigorating and not the soul crushing constantly compromised for cash scenario, kudos!

Many celebrity brush ups but since it’s hockey season I’ll just share a related one. Mikes telling of the real great one, Gordy Howe, made me remember my time with the great but perhaps unknown by all except the most dedicated and perhaps “mature” hockey nuts. Almost 25 years ago when we first moved in the area we live in, my first job was at a golf club. I’d dropped outta grad school and for various reasons just wanted something less stressful and to be outside in the mountains etc. after a few years I became the outside staff manager.
The director of golf had hired this old, literally crooked sort of old bent guy who had a been an NHL warrior back in the bad ole daze of Eddie Shore, Gordie Howe etc named Eric Nesterenko.
He played over twenty years which is kind of amazing if you understand what hockey was like back then. So here’s this beat up old supposed legend working for me as a starter/ranger at an off the path club in the middle of nowhere.
Well Eric was quite a guy but not much of an employee.
He had two problems: as a starter he was never at the first tee box. Usually I could find him at the driving range which was no bueno because although we had liberal privileges at the club, we were not to use the facilities on the clock or in uniform. Well there’d be Eric 8 outta 10 times at the range. Now if that wasn’t enough, he was a machine and would not just hit a few balls, he go through ever damn ball on the range lol. I mean these were Titleist den caddies: (hollow mini golf bags full of about 300 balls), times about 15 stations on the range, that’s A LOT of balls and would wipe out most folks. But Nester would routinely go through ever ball out there.
The other habit he had, as a ranger, people can be aholes when the ranger needs to repeatedly get on them. But hey, that’s their job and the offender was mucking things up for everyone else. I’m sure anyone who’s golfed regularly knows what it’s like being stuck behind rich ahole arm chair Tiger Woods, not fun!
So Nesters problem was when some of these folks would get uppity with him, he’d be ready to drop the gloves!
Now we thought that was hilarious, and some of these nutnics probably deserved a couple elbows in the corner, but of course professionally we had to act shocked, liked we cared when these dipshits complained about him.
I never got to no him that well, but he was always a respectful gentleman to me and the staff, and we loved working with him.
The amazing thing was, even years later, he continued to be a ski instructor in vail, even after all his body had been through! About 10-15 years after I worked with him, we had a gig at a tiny little place in vail. So small we were only allowed to use like one powered monitor with acoustic instruments. Nester, and his son, along with several others were regulars there for apre’ ski. We did the gig mostly because of the fun atmosphere, it was an early gig, and you didn’t need to schlep Amps/PA etc It was mostly for fun, which it was. In fact it got too big so they cancelled us. Imagine that: we’re making too much money and it’s too popular so you can’t play here anymore lol. Well not only was it fun, but Nester and all the regulars took really good care of us too. Some nights we’d actually make ok money!
I haven’t seen Nester in years, but I think he might still be up the hill giving lessons if at all possible.

So speaking of hockey, wow, wild games last night! Not a big Rangers fan (no offense) so loved that outcome, and holy crap I hope the whole Battle for Alberta series is like last night! Wow! Tonight…
GO AVS!
May 19, 2022 - 8:28am

#1006

proudfoot

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If i saw Johnny Rotten in person up close

I would run away.

I love NMTB and PIL's first two albums, but...he seems to be someone to avoid contact with.
May 19, 2022 - 8:25am

#1007

That Mike

Joined:
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Chuck Berry

Jeff - Great guy to meet in Chuck Berry, that is gold! Great story, and your art work is amazing. What was Chuck Berry's reaction to seeing the work?

I would say my meetings with celebrities has been great, overall. I worked a boat show in the 90s, and in the booth next to us was Desmond Llewelyn, infamous as "Q" in the James Bond series. It was a super dead night in January, and he was so nice. He was there for some company, and they were featuring that silly "Alligator Sub" from one of the cheesy Roger Moore movies (I was glad when they dumped Moore). I lost the poster he signed in one of many moves, regretably.

Of the folks I met, Sir Edmund Hillary was top of my list for sheer respect, and he and Gordie Howe both had hands like dinner plates. Big dinner plates. Chris Hillman (pictured) was terrific, as was Herb Pedersen, and Gene Clark. Dan Akroyd was a hoot, and I still have the wine bottle he signed (sans the wine!). Rod Serling's daughter (Anne) and Byron Berline (fiddle master) both signed books for me, but the one that moved me the most was Kim Phuc, known infamously as "The Girl In The Picture", running naked as a little child from an errant napalm bombing in South Vietnam. She lives in the next town over, and she is the most spiritual person I have ever met, not at all defined by the atrocities done to her, or that she had seen.

I'd love to have met Jerry Garcia, I understand he was about the most centred guy you could meet. I'm still holding out to meet Dylan, but I always get the feeling he may be somewhat jaded about that kind of an encounter.
May 19, 2022 - 8:02am

#1008

Nick1234

Joined:
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Meeting celebrities

I worked at an Executive Jet Centre a few years ago for a while, rich people and celebrities, singers on tour etc. Rich people generally were great, polite and respectful, celebrities less so.

I've literally bumped into Roy Orbison and Johnny Rotten. Roy smiled and ruffled my hair, I was about 8 at the time, and Johnny said nothing but the gorilla of a minder behind him (it was in the pub next to the Rainbow Theatre, London, before the Ramones New Year's Eve gig 1977ish) wasn't too polite.
May 19, 2022 - 8:01am

#1009

JeffSmith

Joined:
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Europe 72' Limited Edition Hoodies

Scott McDougall's Europe '72 artwork is some of the most memorable and among my favorite GD cover art. In case it hasn't been mentioned, Europe '72 hoodies are on sale for $58 at Section119 dot com. Looks like "Munich" is sold out.
May 19, 2022 - 7:22am

#1010

JeffSmith

Joined:
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Getting in tune with Chuck

I was surprised to find an unsuspecting Phil Lesh at a table at the Bar at Terrapin Crossroads one night a few years ago – wasn’t as quick on my feet at Keithfan was with Chris Squire. Sort of mumbled “Hi!” and “Thanks!” and dumb stuff.

What I’ll never forget is the time I met Chuck Berry. He was the featured guest at the Grand Opening Night Gala for Dallas’s Hard Rock Cafe in 1986. I was lead artist/coordinator for the making of the Hard Rock's Elvis, Chuck Berry and Jerry Lee Lewis stained glass windows, which earned me a coveted invite to the HRC’s VIP “Cheese Club” upstairs for a seated dinner. In fact I sat next to Chuck’s gorgeous daughter. After the meal, everyone exited back into the crush of revelers. All of us were partying hardy. During the transformation of this old church into the HRC, I’d discovered a hidden “nook” where I escaped for some calm.

The next thing I knew club owner and visionary, Isaac Tigrett, opened the secret door to “my” nook, and told Chuck Berry he could tune and warm up there. Nobody asked me to leave, so I spent 20 or 30 minutes listening to Chuck play. We chatted a little about growing up in Missouri and Arkansas. Chuck was still kinda pissed at the way he’d been treated by the taxman, the law and the record companies. Then, before I knew it, a manager stuck his head in and led Chuck to where he waited until being introduced by Dan Ackroyd and proceeding to blow the top off the place. The Paul Schafer Band played most of the rest of the time.

For more about the Chuck Berry and other two HRC windows (remove the "dot"s and "spaces" first):

Slideshow:
archstglassinc dot com / project/hard-rock-cafe-dallas / ?view=slideshow

Tedious Story:
archstglassinc dot com / project/hard-rock-cafe-dallas / ?view=text

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One more Saturday night at Winterland! Yes, we're back to home base for DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 42, the complete show from Winterland, San Francisco, 2/23/74. The one that featured the earliest amalgamation of what would soon become the Wall of Sound, the one that is so "loud, clear, and defined," it's been ripe for release for quite some time and we're glad it's finally getting its due.

First set or second, there are no wrong answers here. From the unique show opener of Chuck Berry's "Around And Around" and an incredible "Here Comes Sunshine" that would then disappear for 18 years, to a medley of WAKE OF THE FLOOD tracks - "Row Jimmy," "Weather Report Suite," and "Stella Blue" - cementing their status in the canon and an unstoppable hour through the classic 1973-1974 Dead that is “He’s Gone”>“Truckin’”>“Drums”>“The Other One”>“Eyes Of The World,” it's all exceptionally hot.

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 42: WINTERLAND, SAN FRANCISCO, 2/23/74 was recorded by Kidd Candelario and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. Grab a copy while you can.

Woohoo

First comment!
Psyched for this one, wish we knew bonus tracks?

nice

I see someone's unfamiliar with the GD: "listening party" says 1971.

c'mon...

Got my glass!....

....back to work.

It’s Coming Up Roses

So great skating on a fresh sheet of ice, or writing on a fresh comment board!

Great set, great artwork, from a truly great band!

Bonus Disk Line Up (I think?)

I think it was announced way back as
US Blues
It Must Have been the Roses
Playing
Ship of Fools
China > Rider
Uncle Johns Band
I think three are first time performances
Vguy
glad you got your glass I got one too since I was shut out a few issues ago
drp out

Can’t do it.

Listen to the open of “Here Comes Sunshine” and to hear Donna immediately go off key just ruins it. They could keep her honest in the studio but live, forget about it. Saw many shows of that era. It was always a relief when she left the stage. It’s a shame, that was peak musically for them

With Gratitude

I also would like to thank Rhino & Warner Music Group for getting Dave a new camera. I know it's primary use is for business promotional purposes & I hope it serves that function well......In all seriousness I am thankful for all these releases, but I really do not care that it took a year for Rhino to upgrade Dave's equipment. If anything that's somewhat ridiculous. Sorry if I'm killing the positive vibes here. I am very much looking forward to receiving this release & I have no beef with David L.

Some 74

....I'm in.

And, the glass.

Sixtus

I can order 5!

That's a shame for something thats limited. Why not one each?

Did someone mention 1974?

I'm in (w/ the bonus disc). I'm not going to be caught at the next get together without my Winterland '74 highball glass. As for '74 (and I guess the glass too), If it makes you happy, it can't be that bad.

#42

Can I get this on vinyl?

#4

Can I get this on vinyl?

DaPi 42

Let's do this!!!!
ALWAYS PLAY DEAD
PLAY DEAD LOUD

Pick 42

First year subscriber. Odd putting that US Blues from another era in the middle of the show, but that pick 41 was fantastic! This one looks great too. I miss the days of buying albums and now stream most of my music that is not on my 60 gig iPod (yeah I’m old). So it is a treat to get a cd in the mail, crank it up, have a beer, read the liner notes, etc. Can’t wait til 42 arrives. Thanks Dave.

Ordered alacarte

That was easy enough. I saw a lot of great shows in Winterland. Hopefully , one of the next 2 Dave's Picks will be from 1970 or earlier.

Bonus Artwork T-Shirt?

Love to see what the bonus cover is like - hopefully a close-up of the ship with the WOS in the Rigging - reminds me of the "No Friggin' in the Riggin'" T-Shirt I had childhood adolescence.

Totally regret reacting slow on the Thelma T, sold out when I went to pull the trigger. That one is awesome, wish there was a reprint...

Of course I'm in for the glass!

Glass ordered.

If I read right, are you only getting the bonus disc is you subscribe, not if you buy ala carte?

The listening party sounds GREAT, shame some Donna shaming already.

Dave

gimme gimme gimme.

Sixtus good seeing you.

That Mike: did you get the Allman's FoxBox? If you did, hope you enjoyed...

Order in!

Great stuff - 1974 is one of my favourite years. As I understand it, the bonus disc is only for people who subscribe, which rules me out as I bought mine a la carte. But that's alright, mama, that's alright with me.

Great memory Gary!

Yes, I did get the Allman’s Fox Box, and it Rox!

I remember you mentioned you saw these shows - I’ll bet the ABB just rocked that old theatre, because they sound like fantastic recordings!

Oro - nice job hitting the ice first!! Touché, sir!

that really is something....

.... I can hear the WOS all the way over here in Michigan. Sounds great! :-D

Too bad it will take three months for the glass to catch up.

Is this part of the 2022 subscription or separate

Is this part of the 2022 subscription or separate? I am confused

This is…..

Part of the 2022 subscription. If you didn’t order the subscription, you can order it now a la carte

Hey Mike

I usually hit the ice first…face first that is ; )

If this is not bull crap…

If this is not bull crap what is - the bonus disc used to be pre - order , now it is subscription based ? wow how the capitalists scum bags have stolen the ethos of the Grateful Dead - free concerts being sold is cool,someone had to remix them OK , a bonus disc for pre orders is an encouragement to order early, FINE
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- a bonus disc only for subscriptions is BULL SH*T 100% elitist and ugly - I hope you guys are paying the families of the tapers for the recordings if every penny is being collected - DEAD.net is now as ugly as TRUMP.ORG - are you going to sell membership cards next ?

Order the subscription

How can I order the subscription? I cannot find it!?

Last Five, and a book review

From my cassette/Internet Archive digitization project:
GOGD Red Rocks 9/8/83
GOGD Watsonville 9/25/83 - a great outdoor show with an awesome China Rider.
Digitizing for a friend:
Fela and his 35 piece afro-beat orchestra, Berkeley Community Theater 11/14/86

GOGD St Louis 10/29/73 - Powerful Eyes of the World into China Doll
The Byrds - The Notorious Bird Brothers - a psychedelic masterpiece

I'm reading Chris Hillman's autobiography " Time Between" which inspired me to provide a Byrds music background. It's pretty good, and it's interesting to read his description of working and living with Gram Parson as they teamed up as the Burrito Brothers.

Bullcrap of subscriptions

subscriptions were last year and it was an ok sale price but Dick's Picks has some lemons - I figured to avoid lemons like Edition #39 which was ugly - I would pre-order - but no bonus disc now, those are only for those that buy blindly into a subscription and is imho - UGLY and WRONG

Every member of the band is a millionaire and the road crew famously got paid well by the band - why are they squeezing us for every cent to get the music ?? pre order for a bonus disc - sure like the best seats in the house you have to be in line early - but subscription only - Does Bobby and the living members know about this ?? I doubt it - this is GREED

subscription

Skyscraper - I hate to be the bearer of bad tidings, but it's no longer possible to take a subscription out for 2022. You can only do that for a limited period of time from when the first two releases in the series are named - 'round about November of the preceding year in question, I think.
Hey - how about this for a last 5 -
From Western Swing To Rock cd 1.........Bill Haley and various bands
Complete Motown Singles Volume 7 cd 4 - 1967.......Various
Jerry Lee Lewis at Sun Records Collected Works cd 11.........Jerry Lee Lewis
1st Album..........The Stooges
Stax Volt Singles 1959-1968 cd 2........Various

Eyes

Wow! That's one clear, and great sounding eyes. I can't wait for this one, and the bonus disk too. You have got to subscribe to get the whole enchilada.

Bonus disc

Recorded by Kidd from the 2/22/74 performance.

U.S. Blues
Must've Been the Roses
Playing in the Band
Ship o Fools
China Cat Sunflower >
I Know You Rider
Uncle John's Band

You had me at a GSET first set closer....

....love Dave's Audubon seaside chats. "The eagles filled the sky".

Chill out

Chill out on the corporate greed baloney. $99, and some change for 4 complete shows,and a bonus disk. It does not get any better for 4 live unreleased limited shows of luxurious music Xanadu.

42

I decided to order the glass for the first time. Use it ? ........Display it ?........I got plenty of time to decide. I'll have to stay away from the chat until after I play #42 and the Bonus. I never check out any of the setlists before listening and already may know more that I want to. This is the 44th anniversary of the first Werewolves, and I was there. The only time I was at a "first time played" show. I also took some very nice black and white photos from the show, which I still have. Very cool to see how the band positions were different during tours.

Thanks

Ted

@Weidrich

I could be wrong, but I don't recall the bonus disc ever being included with pre-orders; always has been for subscribers only.
By the way, I just got off the phone with Bobby and he's fully aware of the situation; he doesn't care though, he bought his own subscription back in November to make sure he got the bonus disc.

A happy release and the nattering nabobs of cluelessness

Seriously, now folks, anyone who can show up TODAY and whine about a 1974 release or find time to diss Donna Jean is really just a comment on their own miserable lives.

Can't you see the sign? NO POOPING HERE! And the fine print: If you must, do it in your own shorts.

Happy to have the show and bonus disc. Many thanks to the team for putting this out. Glad to see the usual crowd digging on what'll be a fantastic 5+ hours of prime GD.

That is all...

Bonus Discs WEIDRICH

Bonus Discs have been for Subscriptions only since the beginning.

Nitecat

Nice!!!

Lot of hardwork in digitizing, thanks for the effort.

Maybe one day I can hear some. 1983 on Archive?

First time for everything....

....never thought is would see someone post here comparing dead.net to trump.org. LMAO.

1974

Recall that just eight months or so later, after this show, there was ample concern that the Dead were done and might not ever appear again, known now as the hiatus. Watched Grateful Dawg not long ago, it had been years, so refreshing, check it out if you have not seen it in a while. Though I stopped going to their shows after Lewiston 1980, I never stopped listening to the music. Thrilled to be at Dear Jerry, a place I had seen much music as a kid. Thankful to be on the bus for so much of what has been released. Every year at subscription time, I think of the large amount of GD music on the shelves and every year, I say hell no, I can't stop now.

For the most part, we are all here to celebrate music, especially the music we love so much. So... FYI, At the risk of presenting information that is a little stale, the following appeared in an industry publication over a year ago:

The Dead’s business brain trust is a collective of stakeholders including all the remaining band members (Lesh, Weir, Kreutzmann and Hart), represented by their individual managers; members of Garcia’s family (Marc Allan of Red Light Management oversees Garcia’s musical output); and the band’s management, Bernie Cahill at Activist Artists Management and industry veteran Kraig Fox. All are card-carrying Deadheads for whom preserving, not perverting, the legacy is paramount.

According to sources familiar with the band’s finances, the Dead could easily command $150 million for rights to its name, likeness and IP.

It’s proof positive that nostalgia factors greatly in the business of the Dead, not just emotionally but with a steady stream of products. “I find it super exciting,” says Mark Pinkus, president of Rhino Records, the Warner Music Group label that houses all of the Grateful Dead catalog. “The band is very unique in that it has iconography that is striking and timeless.”

There's a snapshot only, from an industry publication.

So...(again)

Jeez I've read a lot of nonsensical comments so far...are these the grandchildren of the clown in the GD movie complaining about being filmed? they are so wrong (except about Donna of course) about it all....AND HAPPY BICYCLE DAY FOLKS!!! And thank you Dr. Hoffman....I will get my bonus disc as I am a subscriber and I also ordered one ala carte for one of my tech challenged buddies (we're old)...Hasta all...

The addiction never stops

I have given enough money to the GD and should probably stop subscribing. I havent been in "the zone" for a few months now and have been finding GD tiresome.

And where in dafuq is 6 10 73?!?

But I will subscribe again. Elitist or not.

Someday the GD buzz will come back.

"The whole universe is completely insane!"

"Yep."

Mr. Natural

Clown in movie

"Sam Hughes", methinks

Hi, Gang!

Not trying to stir the pot but i don't know if the bonus disc info going around is correct. DL usually packs these babies with as much music as possible. The tracks listed here for bonus disc don't seem to fit that. Oh well, find out soon enough!! Stay Grateful....and yeah, subscribe!!!! Best deal around!

I for one am thankful for…

I for one am thankful for all of these releases. Time and Time again I will listen to an official release and marvel at the sound quality they've engineered from old tapes. There are rough spots, but overall they are stunning. They sound better than they would have sounded 30 years ago, thanks to amazing computer technology. Sometimes I just shake my head in amazement (with tears in my eyes) that so much of this material was recorded and salvaged, and I feel fortunate that I can experience it in such quality, sitting by the pool with a buzz and a beer on a warm summer evening. All of this could have easily been ignored and lost......how lucky we are!

Remember..

my dog has no nose!

"No nose? How does she smell?"

Bloomin' awful!

Hear hear

Vorpal43

Last 5

D bowie Lodger
D bowie Scary Monsters
Swans Cop

uhhhh....

Weidrich

I know you were just trolling but I have to say…nothing. Enjoy your sad, meaningless life Skippy, Lord knows you deserve it!!

To everyone else…I missed the first bonus disc that came with the final year of Road Trips, and, dammit, I haven’t missed another one since. That’s called live and learn.
Someone was nice enough to burn me a copy, but I sure would love to have a physical copy. Maybe I’ll get lucky one day.
I’m excited to hear this show(and bonus), I’ve not heard it previously. Someone commented that there weren’t enough tracks to fill the bonus disc. 7 tracks is plenty, if that’s a 35 minute Playing In The Band. This one really feels like a long time coming.
And yes, it’s always nice to get a new thread. Stay safe all, and if you don’t play Dead, for God’s sake, play SOMETHING!!

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