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    One more Saturday night at Winterland! Yes, we're back to home base for DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 42, the complete show from Winterland, San Francisco, 2/23/74. The one that featured the earliest amalgamation of what would soon become the Wall of Sound, the one that is so "loud, clear, and defined," it's been ripe for release for quite some time and we're glad it's finally getting its due.

    First set or second, there are no wrong answers here. From the unique show opener of Chuck Berry's "Around And Around" and an incredible "Here Comes Sunshine" that would then disappear for 18 years, to a medley of WAKE OF THE FLOOD tracks - "Row Jimmy," "Weather Report Suite," and "Stella Blue" - cementing their status in the canon and an unstoppable hour through the classic 1973-1974 Dead that is “He’s Gone”>“Truckin’”>“Drums”>“The Other One”>“Eyes Of The World,” it's all exceptionally hot.

    Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 42: WINTERLAND, SAN FRANCISCO, 2/23/74 was recorded by Kidd Candelario and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. Grab a copy while you can.

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    Huh huh

    Thats what we called wedgies in my youthful youth

  • Oroborous
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    Check your PM

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    that's a name I haven't heard for ages and instantly recognized. Nesterenko was a core player with the Blackhawks when I was a kid. Bobby Hull, Stan Mikita, Pit Martin, Tony Esposito and others. Legends. Born in Flin Flon, Manitoba (Flin Flon - what a cool name). Parents were Ukranian immigrants.

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    Johnny Rotten wasn't so hard

    I met him once. Sort of. It was at the Electric Circus in Manchester in December 1976 a few days after the interview with Bill Grundy had been broadcast on television. There were 4 bands on that night, and the Sex Pistols were last on. I went on my own.
    Between bands I went to the bar upstairs for a pint and a breather. It was virtually empty - but the Pistols were there, talking to some girls at the bar. I got my drink and slumped down..and then got the feeling someone was looking at me. I looked at the next table, and it was Johnny Rotten , also sitting on his own. I mumbled a greeting, and he mumbled one back. Then he re joined the band and they went on. Not exactly great meetings of our time.

    Despite the fact that he had short hair and...well he was a punk....and I had very long hair and looked like - well I don't know what I looked like - but I sensed that we were cut from the same cloth at that time. Both about 19, skinny, mad..
    I'm glad Sid Vicious wasn't there, though.

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    Wow, beyond cool Jeff! Those windows and that story was awesome! I can relate to egos, rich folk, and crazy deadlines. Fortunately I don’t have to deal with those so much anymore. Like y’all didn’t have enough to deal with without some DB mucking up the works. Shoulda dosed him lol. Seems like you’ve found the hard to get niche of art and commerce that’s cool and invigorating and not the soul crushing constantly compromised for cash scenario, kudos!

    Many celebrity brush ups but since it’s hockey season I’ll just share a related one. Mikes telling of the real great one, Gordy Howe, made me remember my time with the great but perhaps unknown by all except the most dedicated and perhaps “mature” hockey nuts. Almost 25 years ago when we first moved in the area we live in, my first job was at a golf club. I’d dropped outta grad school and for various reasons just wanted something less stressful and to be outside in the mountains etc. after a few years I became the outside staff manager.
    The director of golf had hired this old, literally crooked sort of old bent guy who had a been an NHL warrior back in the bad ole daze of Eddie Shore, Gordie Howe etc named Eric Nesterenko.
    He played over twenty years which is kind of amazing if you understand what hockey was like back then. So here’s this beat up old supposed legend working for me as a starter/ranger at an off the path club in the middle of nowhere.
    Well Eric was quite a guy but not much of an employee.
    He had two problems: as a starter he was never at the first tee box. Usually I could find him at the driving range which was no bueno because although we had liberal privileges at the club, we were not to use the facilities on the clock or in uniform. Well there’d be Eric 8 outta 10 times at the range. Now if that wasn’t enough, he was a machine and would not just hit a few balls, he go through ever damn ball on the range lol. I mean these were Titleist den caddies: (hollow mini golf bags full of about 300 balls), times about 15 stations on the range, that’s A LOT of balls and would wipe out most folks. But Nester would routinely go through ever ball out there.
    The other habit he had, as a ranger, people can be aholes when the ranger needs to repeatedly get on them. But hey, that’s their job and the offender was mucking things up for everyone else. I’m sure anyone who’s golfed regularly knows what it’s like being stuck behind rich ahole arm chair Tiger Woods, not fun!
    So Nesters problem was when some of these folks would get uppity with him, he’d be ready to drop the gloves!
    Now we thought that was hilarious, and some of these nutnics probably deserved a couple elbows in the corner, but of course professionally we had to act shocked, liked we cared when these dipshits complained about him.
    I never got to no him that well, but he was always a respectful gentleman to me and the staff, and we loved working with him.
    The amazing thing was, even years later, he continued to be a ski instructor in vail, even after all his body had been through! About 10-15 years after I worked with him, we had a gig at a tiny little place in vail. So small we were only allowed to use like one powered monitor with acoustic instruments. Nester, and his son, along with several others were regulars there for apre’ ski. We did the gig mostly because of the fun atmosphere, it was an early gig, and you didn’t need to schlep Amps/PA etc It was mostly for fun, which it was. In fact it got too big so they cancelled us. Imagine that: we’re making too much money and it’s too popular so you can’t play here anymore lol. Well not only was it fun, but Nester and all the regulars took really good care of us too. Some nights we’d actually make ok money!
    I haven’t seen Nester in years, but I think he might still be up the hill giving lessons if at all possible.

    So speaking of hockey, wow, wild games last night! Not a big Rangers fan (no offense) so loved that outcome, and holy crap I hope the whole Battle for Alberta series is like last night! Wow! Tonight…
    GO AVS!

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    If i saw Johnny Rotten in person up close

    I would run away.

    I love NMTB and PIL's first two albums, but...he seems to be someone to avoid contact with.

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    Jeff - Great guy to meet in Chuck Berry, that is gold! Great story, and your art work is amazing. What was Chuck Berry's reaction to seeing the work?

    I would say my meetings with celebrities has been great, overall. I worked a boat show in the 90s, and in the booth next to us was Desmond Llewelyn, infamous as "Q" in the James Bond series. It was a super dead night in January, and he was so nice. He was there for some company, and they were featuring that silly "Alligator Sub" from one of the cheesy Roger Moore movies (I was glad when they dumped Moore). I lost the poster he signed in one of many moves, regretably.

    Of the folks I met, Sir Edmund Hillary was top of my list for sheer respect, and he and Gordie Howe both had hands like dinner plates. Big dinner plates. Chris Hillman (pictured) was terrific, as was Herb Pedersen, and Gene Clark. Dan Akroyd was a hoot, and I still have the wine bottle he signed (sans the wine!). Rod Serling's daughter (Anne) and Byron Berline (fiddle master) both signed books for me, but the one that moved me the most was Kim Phuc, known infamously as "The Girl In The Picture", running naked as a little child from an errant napalm bombing in South Vietnam. She lives in the next town over, and she is the most spiritual person I have ever met, not at all defined by the atrocities done to her, or that she had seen.

    I'd love to have met Jerry Garcia, I understand he was about the most centred guy you could meet. I'm still holding out to meet Dylan, but I always get the feeling he may be somewhat jaded about that kind of an encounter.

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    Meeting celebrities

    I worked at an Executive Jet Centre a few years ago for a while, rich people and celebrities, singers on tour etc. Rich people generally were great, polite and respectful, celebrities less so.

    I've literally bumped into Roy Orbison and Johnny Rotten. Roy smiled and ruffled my hair, I was about 8 at the time, and Johnny said nothing but the gorilla of a minder behind him (it was in the pub next to the Rainbow Theatre, London, before the Ramones New Year's Eve gig 1977ish) wasn't too polite.

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    Scott McDougall's Europe '72 artwork is some of the most memorable and among my favorite GD cover art. In case it hasn't been mentioned, Europe '72 hoodies are on sale for $58 at Section119 dot com. Looks like "Munich" is sold out.

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    Getting in tune with Chuck

    I was surprised to find an unsuspecting Phil Lesh at a table at the Bar at Terrapin Crossroads one night a few years ago – wasn’t as quick on my feet at Keithfan was with Chris Squire. Sort of mumbled “Hi!” and “Thanks!” and dumb stuff.

    What I’ll never forget is the time I met Chuck Berry. He was the featured guest at the Grand Opening Night Gala for Dallas’s Hard Rock Cafe in 1986. I was lead artist/coordinator for the making of the Hard Rock's Elvis, Chuck Berry and Jerry Lee Lewis stained glass windows, which earned me a coveted invite to the HRC’s VIP “Cheese Club” upstairs for a seated dinner. In fact I sat next to Chuck’s gorgeous daughter. After the meal, everyone exited back into the crush of revelers. All of us were partying hardy. During the transformation of this old church into the HRC, I’d discovered a hidden “nook” where I escaped for some calm.

    The next thing I knew club owner and visionary, Isaac Tigrett, opened the secret door to “my” nook, and told Chuck Berry he could tune and warm up there. Nobody asked me to leave, so I spent 20 or 30 minutes listening to Chuck play. We chatted a little about growing up in Missouri and Arkansas. Chuck was still kinda pissed at the way he’d been treated by the taxman, the law and the record companies. Then, before I knew it, a manager stuck his head in and led Chuck to where he waited until being introduced by Dan Ackroyd and proceeding to blow the top off the place. The Paul Schafer Band played most of the rest of the time.

    For more about the Chuck Berry and other two HRC windows (remove the "dot"s and "spaces" first):

    Slideshow:
    archstglassinc dot com / project/hard-rock-cafe-dallas / ?view=slideshow

    Tedious Story:
    archstglassinc dot com / project/hard-rock-cafe-dallas / ?view=text

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One more Saturday night at Winterland! Yes, we're back to home base for DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 42, the complete show from Winterland, San Francisco, 2/23/74. The one that featured the earliest amalgamation of what would soon become the Wall of Sound, the one that is so "loud, clear, and defined," it's been ripe for release for quite some time and we're glad it's finally getting its due.

First set or second, there are no wrong answers here. From the unique show opener of Chuck Berry's "Around And Around" and an incredible "Here Comes Sunshine" that would then disappear for 18 years, to a medley of WAKE OF THE FLOOD tracks - "Row Jimmy," "Weather Report Suite," and "Stella Blue" - cementing their status in the canon and an unstoppable hour through the classic 1973-1974 Dead that is “He’s Gone”>“Truckin’”>“Drums”>“The Other One”>“Eyes Of The World,” it's all exceptionally hot.

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 42: WINTERLAND, SAN FRANCISCO, 2/23/74 was recorded by Kidd Candelario and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. Grab a copy while you can.

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Wow! Great sounding tape based on the Listening Party. Jerry and Phil sound absolutely fantastic. Looking forward to the disc 3 sequence, which I note is largely an hour in E. The Bonus looks to be fantastic as well, and I'm grateful for all the Ship of Fools we're getting. The one on DaP 34 6/23/74 with the instrumental jam on it is spectaular and I always look forward to a good Ship. Based on the Listening Party, Phil has it nailed with the swing, Billy not as much, playing it much straighter than later. Think I'll listen to this one quite a bit.

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Dave's intro, inclusive of heartfelt thanks and childlike wonder at the remote control = Priceless

Then...

Rouge Waves!
Oyster Catchers!
Bald Eagles!
Two Trees!
Slippery Seaweed!

And, a cool historical perspective: these shows helped to fund the Godchaux's growing family's first home

Thanks for the ongoing insights, Dave.
We love the sideshow as much as the chat.

Sixtus

P.S. GFar! Good to see you too my man

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and you can please most of the people some of the time ... but some people are just dicks. I think WC Fritos said that.

You know, if Rhino/dead.net just wanted to make as much money as possible, they probably wouldn't offer subscription sales, which after all come with a discount. If they were just trying to minimize effort and maximize profit, they could just offer every new release a la carte, jack the price up somewhere close to what these items sell for on the "secondary market" (ie, at least 2-3 times the list price), and they'd still sell out.

But they do subscriptions, probably because it makes it easier to budget, easier to ship. And in order to get us onboard, they offer the aforementioned discount, plus free shipping, plus a bonus disc. (AFAIK, the bonus disc has only ever been offered as an incentive to subscribe.) You'd rather just cherry pick the DaPs you really want? No problemo, but you don't get the discount, you don't get free shipping, and you don't get the bonus disc. Or you can just ignore the whole series, never buy any of 'em, believe it or not.

Let us note that pretty much every show is available for FREE online for anybody who wants to hear them. If the Dead and Rhino were really "greedy" they'd hire a team of lawyers and put an end to that. But they're choosing to let that go, and they're still managing to run their "elitist" reissue program for people who are willing for physical product and who want to hear the shows in the best possible sound.

Subscribe, go a la carte, listen for free, or don't listen at all. Make the choice that works for you. What else is there to say?

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That pretty much sums it up. Improvise, adapt, and overcome.

Excellently thought out argument, or as I say, storytelling. Great Read, indeed.

BTK, as said before, always jealous. Know you were just getting aboard. Just wonderin if you saw any of this run?

Sixtus: Hope all things are fruitful your way. However, you need that to mean.

Another show (s) I have not heard.

Find it interesting that this was the the first run since 1973 Tampa DiP1. Will listen to that first to see how much change/growth had occurred in 6 weeks.

Guess yall have chased down the soundcheck from 2-22.

Let it grow, tleo, us blues (x2), Attics, Roses (x2), Jam, Slipnot>Playin.

Bet that was quite the acid test uh, sound check.

Then on this release...Slipnot>Other One. Cant wait.

Sorta wish the sound check was the bonus disk...

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I think this Weinrich or whatever is just pulling your chain... if you look, the account was created today. I'm stoked for this release, love 1974 it's like E72 all grown up and ol' Jer still had some fire.

Last five (non GD):

T. Rex - Electric Warrior
Portugal. The Man - Woodstock
Dave Edmunds - Rockpile
Soundgarden - Telephantasm
In a Silent Way - Miles Davis

\m/

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More classic Dave and not sure if his camera has batteries or what is coming out next in 2022. Priceless.
Looking forward to seeing this one in a couple of weeks.

I don't understand the negativity. Not every show is perfect. If you don't want it don't buy it. $100 bucks for 4 shows and a bonus is crazy inexpensive, look at the cost of everything these days. I am so happy the my fav band recorded most of their shows and you can listen to them at this level of quality for a small price. That they even were taped, survived and could be brought to life in this condition is a miracle that makes me smile with every release. Thank you everybody involved. Good capitalism is paying good people fair prices to do good things.

Enjoyable thread. Love 1974 GD, my only regret is that they did not release this run as a box set. ..but here we have it and so it is.

DVMCT, enjoyed your comment and perspective, I forget whose post it was that made me chortle my drink.. perhaps it was many..

Looking forward to this and am just settling in to my second favorite part of every release, the seaside chat.

Be good folks, but not too good. and thanks for being kind and just as important for being yourselves.

Los Lobos - The Town And The City
Los Lobos - Tin Can Trust
Iron Maiden - Piece Of Mind
The Flaming Lips - At War With The Mystics
Queen - The Game
Y'all stay cool. I love release announcement daze. Good to hear from everyone as always.

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Who now does not recognize an oyster catcher's call before Dave calls it out! And to see that mysterious Eagle - looked like Coho to me.

Nice release looking forward to a first listen to all four disks. A sub is a no brainer. Wish I smartened up prior to the 2nd year. Missed out on a lot of RoadTrips Bonus Disks, but C'est la Vie - thanks to friends here and gone for hooking me up...

Psyched about more releases coming! Spring is going to be a banner season for vinyl. Catching up on the Odd Vault vinyl re-releases plus DaP1 & Lyceum and with any luck RSD. No barware for me...

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#43 : 4/27 & 28/ 85. Frost Ampitheatre. #44: 4/5/69 Avalon Ballroom & 10/31/69. San Jose State

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Your comments sound funny to people who understand how business works. I won't explain the whys and wheres but it is a fact that it is because they do pre orders and Bonus discs that the Rhino has been able to provide a steady flow of Vault material to you for 2 decades at normal music prices. Don't let ignorance upset a good time. No they don't have enough money, didn't you watch the Seaside video? They're chipping in for John Maher's new house.

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Your shows are probably more likely to be released then mine. I would also like to enter 2/17/79 & 4/22//79 as a release for Dave's # 43. Dave's # 42 is a fantastic release, with or without the bonus disc, at a fantastic price.

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....wouldn't kill 'im to realease a few more from the 80's on and Dave's insistence on the vast majority being 60's and 70's shows is pretentious.

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As someone else mentioned, the band took a break after ‘74. I think many shows reflect the members’ feelings of boredom and stagnation. To me, much of the material sounds plastic, basically imitating its improvisation from the recent past without real spontaneity. To each his own, but I will pass on this one…

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DCBOATER - Interesting perspective. I like this year myself, but I vaguely remember one of the British posters on here saying that they had seen them in 1972 and 1974, and that they had declined somewhat by 74-not the exact words, but that was the gist.
I also remember ( I always seem to remember trivial things-nothing important) that Bob Weir once said they took a break after 1974 because they felt they were leaving the audience behind as their jams became more abstract. Something the interviewer-possibly David Gans, disagreed with. Me too, as it goes.

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Back to back Brent releases with DaP 39 and 40, and with DaP 35 and 36. A total of 14 CD’s.
Did you forget that already?

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New release announcement (though we’ve know since December what is was going to be).

New seaside chat.

Whiners pop their heads up.

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9/26/81

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4/19/86, Hey it could happen...some say best show of the year... :-)

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My first Dead show at Winterland. 15’ from the stage.
My first concert at Winterland was electric Hot Tuna in May 1973. Muddy Waters opened. I love Jorma and Jack but looking back at history I was incredibly lucky to see Muddy Waters.
I’ve gotten the subscription since the first year but had to order a second Dave’s 42.
Also ordered the glass/ tumbler. (Free Tumblers- S.Clay Wilson)

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Non Dead

The Samples-No Room

The Brian Jonestown Massacre-Their Satanic Majesties Second Request

The Byrds-5D

Satan’s Pilgrims-Creature Feature

Allman Brothers-Boston Common 8/17/71

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Ok, I'll admit I had no idea about this reference. Looked it up and had a laugh.

Question is,,,, does anyone called them tumblers anymore? :-) Seems like a word from yesteryear.

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We will be celebrating 420 today at the store. Every year they have calendars printed they need to be colored in. They come in around November and are given out all year. But on 420 at 4:20 every store has a "coloring" contest. Show up with the calendar colored in and the store workers will the judge the best. Everyone gets something, but nice stuff goes to the top 3. But free shit for everyone!!! Shirts, shot glasses, cozi's, frisbees, lighters, papers and of course, tumblers :-)

Just for the record,,,,, store claims to have opened on 4/20/1970. While I'm sure they started in 1970, I rather doubt the 4/20 date,,,,,, I almost sure 420 was not a thing in 1970,,,, but we run with it :-)

So happy 420,,,, may all your joints be fatties. (and not arthritic joints!!)

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co-worker last night turned me on to a group "City and Colour". (some guy Dallas Green)

Nice acoustic work, nice vocals.

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TTB just announced a major Thing: “I am the Moon,” 24 songs inspired by Persian myth and the pandemic, to be released across 4 lps or CDs over the next few months, titled Crescent, Ascension, The Fall, and Farewell. There’s even going to be films that will drop at the same time of each record, beginning May 31. Gotta admit, I did not see this coming.

Interesting to note the range of prices on this: you can get the music as individual CDs for $12 each, or individual lps for $23, and in various other configurations, all the way up to the signed limited edition deluxe lp set with booklet and other goodies for $170. I like it that there’s a price point for everybody (subtle hint to TPTB here).

I might regret it, someday, but I went for the deluxe lp set. I kinda feel like I’m putting Derek and Susan’s kids through college this year: bought tix to see them at Red Rocks, and again in NorCal a few weeks later, and now this box set. But it’s only money, right?

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It takes me about a year to listen to a year of GD concerts from the DH archives. I recently finished 73 and am now just into 74. After reading some of the other commenters, I wonder why some people are even Dead Heads. My first show in person was December 73 Cameron Indoor Stadium. Loved the recordings of all three January 74 Winterland shows. Here are the comments I wrote after each show:

10.0 WOW! 1974/02/24 - Winterland - Charlie Miller soundboard - perfect sound - outstanding PITB, Dark Star-~Dew, not fade away - feeling bad sandwich - excellent baby blue encore

9.7 1974/02/23 - Winterland - Charlie Miller soundboard - perfect sound for instruments, voices had issues in various places - some lyrics messed up in a few songs after Big River - outstanding The Other One

9.8 1974/02/22 - Winterland - Dick Latvala soundboard - bright and fresh from the winter break - great energy - Donna is back! - perfect sound for instruments, voices occasionally faded - introducing a polished US Blues.

So, obviously I liked the 2/24 show best, but as Dave said, that is prior pick. Of course, those issues that I mention with voices are just mixing issues that will be resolved in the release. I look forward to adding this to my regular listening rotation.

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Cool show, a lot of interesting stories on the Archive about this show. Time to release a 1969 box set. Just pick 6 of the best shows you have available and put them together in a box.

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You're welcome!
Are you the taper from Nebraska that recorded the July '78 shows in Omaha and Red Rocks?

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Chewbacca always has a nice supply of kashyyyk kush

Greedo was pissed that Han bogarted the goodies

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Who's to say every body on here is a Deadhead?
I like the idea of listening to every show in a year during a 12 month period-but I've never got anywhere close.
Looking forward to this release, though.

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Dennis - The lady that cuts my hair is nuts in a Bobby Sherman way for this Dallas Green guy. Then my oldest mentioned how he liked his music, but I never checked them out. Now you have thrown the gauntlet down, so I have to.
Pretty cool what you guys are doing at the store for 420! I am on a long sabbatical from 420 festivities, but a Happy Day to all who will be celebrating. Bongs away!!

DaP 42 Very Good/Bonus Disc Better

PS - Bruce Hornsby has a new record out late May, part of a trilogy with his previous two releases. Ordered.

Drive-By Truckers on Sunday - As Dylan said to the Band, “Play Phucing Loud!!!”

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Nope, never taped a dead show.
You might be thinking of my good twin/bizarro Jerry other, Oroboros?
Unfortunately we’ve not heard from him in way too long!
I can’t say if he ever taped, but he was from the mid west and has great stories of the Iowa 74, Winterland 78, about meeting JG, and his cool ceramic Serpent. He had claimed this normal spelling before me so I went with an alternative that I saw somewhere? Wanna say Harrison’s book but not sure anymore?
Super nice guy, we miss him big time!

Speaking of missing, good to see Strider back!

Now if only we’d hear from SKULLTRIP, 4windsblow, GOGD, Kayakguy and many other fine posters my senile brain has missed that we’ve not seen in far too long!

PS, good to see so many folks, wish it was like this more often!

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GaryF- thanks, it is a work of love. I was taping shows years before the taping section, and now that i'm retired, I decided to get them up on the archive so everyone can hear them. It's been one of my Covid Projects. Up side is I get to listen to each show as they are digitized, not a bad way to proceed. I am fortunately teamed up with Charlie Miller and his team for pitch, wow, speed correction and uploading to lossless legs and Archive.org. So far on Archive are 13 shows from 1979 and 1980. Just enter Wiseman in the search after choosing the Dead collection. I'm especially proud of Seattle 80.

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That 6/13/80 AUD from Seattle is amazing. One of my favorites. Thank You!

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Your 6/13/80 Seattle AUD is "spinning" as I peck. Just exactly perfect! Great balance of "You are HERE" and "You can HEAR". I'll leave it to our capable audiophiles to wax more poetic. . . Looking forward to the rest of your growing "catalog" on the archive! A huge THANK YOU to you and all the countless other tapers who, over the years, have added so much to a Grateful Dead bonfire that's still growing. And, of course, thanks to the lossless legs vanguard and the Jim Miller's too). Onward

Thanks. I'm so glad you are enjoying it. In those days, I sometimes successfully smuggled in a light stand which I re-purposed as a mic stand, and in Seattle I had the mics on the floor about 10 feet high. I found when I went to shows out of the bay area, it was easier to get away with that.

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