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    One more Saturday night at Winterland! Yes, we're back to home base for DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 42, the complete show from Winterland, San Francisco, 2/23/74. The one that featured the earliest amalgamation of what would soon become the Wall of Sound, the one that is so "loud, clear, and defined," it's been ripe for release for quite some time and we're glad it's finally getting its due.

    First set or second, there are no wrong answers here. From the unique show opener of Chuck Berry's "Around And Around" and an incredible "Here Comes Sunshine" that would then disappear for 18 years, to a medley of WAKE OF THE FLOOD tracks - "Row Jimmy," "Weather Report Suite," and "Stella Blue" - cementing their status in the canon and an unstoppable hour through the classic 1973-1974 Dead that is “He’s Gone”>“Truckin’”>“Drums”>“The Other One”>“Eyes Of The World,” it's all exceptionally hot.

    Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 42: WINTERLAND, SAN FRANCISCO, 2/23/74 was recorded by Kidd Candelario and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. Grab a copy while you can.

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  • Crow Told Me
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    Not long ago I had a guy come to check on our air conditioner. Seemed like a good idea, since we’d never serviced the thing in the 15 years we’d lived in the house, and summers around here can be pretty damned unbearable without AC. So this guy comes over, and he checks out the unit and the vents and whatnot, goes through the house with a digital thermometer, and gives us a clean bill of health, thank ye gods. And then out of the blue he says, in heavily accented English, “I notice you have an obsession with birds?”

    And I’m like, who, me?

    And then I realize that out in the yard, where he was working, there are two bird seed feeders, and a hummingbird feeder. And a bird bath. And in the living room, where we’re talking, there are five paintings of birds, and also an enlarged photo of some birds my wife took. And another bird painting in the kitchen. Also salt and pepper shakers that are shaped like chickens. And a stuffed owl on the book shelf.

    So I realized he had a point.

    The weird thing is, I know nothing about birds. I couldn’t tell a whippoorwill from a curlew if you put a gun to my head. But I like watching them at the feeder, or taking a bath, and I like knowing they’re out there, doing all the same stuff they were doing millions of years ago, before humans came along. I like thinking I’m doing some little thing to help them survive in a world that’s increasingly hostile to all wild things.

    Owls are my favorite. We mostly have barn owls around here, and you can hear them screech almost every night, see them only rarely. There are also burrowing owls in the fields outside town. I think I saw a barred owl the other night, at twilight. Can’t be sure, because I could only see the silhouette, but I think that’s what she was. Either that, or an omen from the Other World. I was sitting by the creek, having (yet another) existential crisis, when I happened to look up and see her. She flew right up above me, then silently turned into the trees. Wonder what message, if any, she meant to deliver?

    Anyway ... Just finished Cloud Cuckoo Land by Anthony Doerr. Highly recommended. Just starting on Sea of Tranquility by Emily St. John Mandel.

    Last five:

    King Crimson: Live in Mexico
    Johnny Griffin: Introducing Johnny Griffin
    TTB: Crescent
    Aaron Copland: Piano Concerto
    Kamasi Washington: Heaven and Earth

  • itsburnsy
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    That is sweet HF, your gonna love OtR. Was in Powell's books a few years ago and they had original printing of Steal This Book by Abbey Hoffman, score!

    Birds! So I live on a greenbelt, in Summer I get birds migrating from S America to AK even, tons live there too including at least one owl. Then this spring my bird feeder starting getting raided, by what I din't know, thought maybe raccoons. And then a few days ago, swear to God I looked out my window and f*cking bear was just dumping all my seed into his mouth. Scared him away, sat back down with my coffee, looked out the window, and there it was again, dumping a whole feeder full of seed into his mouth. Unfortunately, I have pets and kids, so I took the feeder down, if anyone knows of a good anti Yogi strategy to keep bears out of feeders let know. I already put it as high as it can go and that didn't work.

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    night time bird "audibles"

    along with owls, maybe call of a poorwill (sounds like the common name) or the wing "woooosh" of a diving nighthawk

    many years ago hiking off trail on dry east slope of Cascades and there were a series of stick nests maybe 10 feet off ground in tall shrubs. gave one shrub a light shake and a very pissed off Mama Long-eared poked her head over the lip of the nest and told me to stop it!

    owl species make all sorts of crazy calls, along with the well known 4 hoot of the Great Horned. Was camping one night back country near Malheur and my girlfriend and I started hearing these tiny yipping noises, like miniature coyotes, from the pinyons (and/or maybe junipers?). Headlamp revealed them to be Saw-whet owls. They were everywhere based on the calls. Migrating through. No trace by next morning.

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    Birds....

    ....we have a birdbath and hummingbird feeders in our front yard we can see from our kitchen window. Makes doing the dishes a less of a chore.

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    The night time "audible" sighting is an intriguing one. Where you and I are it could just be a Great Horned owl if it sounds like classic hooting, "who cooks for you". We've been getting the Long-eared owl over here the last few years which has a much more spooky winnowing call. Ghostly for sure. Very cool "sighting". Birding has been our excuse to get out in the woods, and everywhere else, for 40 years now thanks to some biology major roommates in college.
    Cheers
    P.S. You can verify your audible on a site called ebird where recordings of calls are one of the features. Easy-peasy and just to keep it Dead related for the fans, the site is run by Cornell Labs. LOL

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    To both HendrixFreak and to Jim

    HF - Sorry to hear your father passed, and of all weeks, prior to that one time we get to reflect how great their presence in our lives was. Both my folks made it to 93, from hard scrabble Depression roots, enormous families where hand me downs were presents, service to country, being decent people, parents, and friends. I will consider myself blessed should I live to that age, and gather the wisdom and probity that particular age bestows on you. My condolences, Amigo.

    Jim - Wow, what a week for you and yours. Thanks to the Almighty for the skills of the medical professionals, may all of you return to full health very soon. Your words recently about how the Deadheads on this site, and in general, were a pretty interesting and erudite bunch rang true; as a generally outside observer on this site, I am fascinated by the scope of skills, knowledge, life lessons, and unwavering objective and curious mindset of this group here.

    TS Eliot said it best:
    If you do not push the boundaries, you will never know where they are.

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    Hey I was there too!

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    Been really digging birds lately. This time of year there’s many different ones around that like to hang by the nearby wetlands etc. I know nothing of birding but know there’s hawks, eagles, vultures, owls, swallows, Robbins, magpies, some cool all black with orange on the side, something at night that makes cool sounds, and saw something that made me think of sand pipers but no idea what? Nature is so much cooler than TV, internet and all the other noise we clog our heads with.

    BILLY: believe that was your first? Hell of a first, happy anniversary!
    Hopefully they’ll give us that one the 50th of Allah!

    1stshow: guess ya have to change the name to fit the new location?
    Denver Nordiques doesn’t quite have the same ring? But I’m sure it comes down to power and money like everything else. Those who have make the rules…

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    “There’s too much pain and too much sorrow”

    Geeze Louise.

    HF: sorry for your loss, may the 4 winds blow him safely home!
    Sounds like another interesting trooper from that most awesome generation who lived a long and full life!

    Pretty cool about the book. Sounds like it’s time for another “get one with nature adventure”

    JIM: FFS, nothing like when life piles on. Bad wrist, and 2 serious family situations I’m sure on top of the normal madness! Sounds like you could use a killer Touch of Grey! (and some things decorum prevents me from mentioning ahem) And remember amigo, Like A Road, we’ll be there!
    Wishing speedy and healthy recovery to your family!
    Yeah, hang in there baby (picturing big, tall, lanky dude holding on instead of that cute lil kitten ; )

    Bluecrow: that must of been hard not to be able to be with him.
    I’m still dealing with not being there for either parent.
    They say pops went in his sleep, but it still chokes me up thinking about him being all alone at the end.
    But what can we do, ce la vie, the wheel keeps turning you can’t slow down, can’t let go and ya cant hold on, cant go back and ya cant stand still, if the world don’t get ya then Father Time will

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    you lucky guy!! what an awesome show!

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One more Saturday night at Winterland! Yes, we're back to home base for DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 42, the complete show from Winterland, San Francisco, 2/23/74. The one that featured the earliest amalgamation of what would soon become the Wall of Sound, the one that is so "loud, clear, and defined," it's been ripe for release for quite some time and we're glad it's finally getting its due.

First set or second, there are no wrong answers here. From the unique show opener of Chuck Berry's "Around And Around" and an incredible "Here Comes Sunshine" that would then disappear for 18 years, to a medley of WAKE OF THE FLOOD tracks - "Row Jimmy," "Weather Report Suite," and "Stella Blue" - cementing their status in the canon and an unstoppable hour through the classic 1973-1974 Dead that is “He’s Gone”>“Truckin’”>“Drums”>“The Other One”>“Eyes Of The World,” it's all exceptionally hot.

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 42: WINTERLAND, SAN FRANCISCO, 2/23/74 was recorded by Kidd Candelario and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. Grab a copy while you can.

Thanks for the Byrd info. I am a touch younger, although still gettin close to 60. Been meaning to revisit the Byrds. Have their first two albums which I procured in high school. Now I am going to get his book.

Will be listening to Seattle this weekend, really, cannot wait. Why did you stop at 1980 Maine? Set list looks like a rager.

Might I ask how many were you fortunate to see? Any disappointed misses?

I am grateful for the shows I was fortunate to see. All were pretty big road trips. Looks like you were a road warrior also.

Thanks for hanging around here. What I wouldnt give to have a camp fire meeting with the freaks on here.

G

Edit: I have thought about contacting Mr. Miller. I have an old box taped up for 25+ years. It has some tasty boards. I have an awesome 70's Allman Brothers Band and a extremely funcky Neville Brothers show opening for GD. Might have to see if the time capsule is anything, get what might be good digitized and quit hauling that box around. Move to much.

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Glad you enjoy the FoxBox, it was an awesome weekend. As I stated then, I ran into the fellas a few times, they recognized my car tag. Greg lived around here for a while and have a close friend who was a close friend of his. My friend played with him some. He met Gregg thru Johnny Sandlin. I met Johnny a few times, great guy.

But yeah fun fun. Huge hotel bar and food tab.

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Gary, that Fox weekend would have been one for the ages! I read you are going back over the Byrds catalogue - so much great stuff in there, and some genius writing and playing by guys in the band like Gram Parsons, Clarence White, or the guy beside me in my avatar, Chris Hillman. Like the Dead, they are one band - including offshoots - I never tire of listening to.

Last Five:
Brian Eno - Here Come The Warm Jets
- Another Green World
Fripp & Eno - No Pussyfooting
Robert Fripp - Exposure (3rd Edition)
JD Souther - Tenderness

I picked the latter, because after a Fripp/Eno junket, I needed lyrics and drums, and no synths

PS - Oro is right - nice to see Strider on the boards again.

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opened for who in 1971?

Adolph, Rudolph, Pissoff, and Jackoff

Unrelated to daves 42, i know

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Seeing Electric Warrior in Ledded's last 5 yesterday reminded me that the T. Rex 1972 box is coming out tomorrow. I ordered that so long ago, I had forgotten about it.
Actually to keep it Dead related, Gary Lambert had a pop at T. Rex in his sleeve notes for the cd of 4/7/72 in the trunk . A very dated comment, which reminds me of the time when people who liked rock music only tended to listen to one particular type, and looked down on people who didn't share their taste.

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The cover art for this one - I didn't realize there's a Wall of Sound in that ship. Cell phone image too small, but just saw it on my laptop. Yeah it's a cool one. Do we know what's on the Bonus Disc yet? Oh - and I really like The Other One from today's 50 year anniversary of the Beat Club performance. Sounds Dark Starish in places TBD. Dig it, dig it, dig it, dig it....

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My subscription copy of the June 2022 issue of Mojo has just been delivered. There is an article about the ‘72 visit to Europe and the free CD is a GD compilation ‘ From The Bay To The Pool - Live 1971 - 1978’ There are 10 tracks all previously issued. Should be an interesting listen.

Edit: I see there is also an article about Mighty Baby.

Edit 2: My wife has just told me it’s Iggy Pop’s 75th birthday!

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Super excited for DaP42. '74 is such a sweet year to my ears. I've always been a "both the book and the cover" person and I love the cover art. That ship with the Wall of Sound is so very cool, the sunset sky, the flooded streets. For me right up there with the Tony Millionaire Wizard of Oz masterpiece for DaP 11.

and yes, lest i forget, thanks nitecat (and the Charlie Miller team) for getting your tapes up on the archive. spun set II from Seattle yesterday. never got to see a set II Let It Grow from that era and always thought it was particularly cool song placement.

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We, (well I anyway), don't see what's right in front of face a lot of times. I noticed that although 42 is a 74 show,,,, it says "Listening Party 1971".

What a great sounding recording regardless :-)

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The 6-13-80 tape is indeed very nice. I am digging into your 6-8-80 recording now and I do believe it may be the best - well my favorite anyway - of the recordings available from that show and there are several.

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I love this cover too. I did not notice the WOS initially either.

Definitely in my top 5.

26 Albuquerque Balloons
42 Ship
12 Colgate (Yes, bias involved, but still very cool)
5 UCLA Bruins
30 Wolf paws on keyboard

HM: 9,11, 23

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Was just watching the movie "The Gong Show",,,,, I haven't seen it in 40 years. Caught the last 5 minutes.

There is the unknown comic,,,

"Chuckie, Chuckie, Chuckie!!!! Come here, I'm gonna tell you a joke that will make you look like an asshole............ Oh I see you've already heard it!!!!"

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Now Dennis, that's my kind of humor....

Last Five
Oliver Nelson - The Blues & The Abstract Truth
Los Lobos - Chuy's Tape Box Vol 1 (Live in Santa Barbara '84)
The Butterfield Blues Band - The Original Lost Elektra Sessions
Elliot Sharpe & Henry Kaiser - Electric Willie; A Tribute to Willie Dixon
Grateful Dead - Ventura 7-18-82 AUD...great sounding show (ONE MORE SET!!!)...on the headphones I can hear the wind and smell the ocean...

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I recall your tape of 12/26/79 being stellar!

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Nappy, Ventura was a blast! I enjoyed all the years there, but I think 1982 was my favorite. Ventura would make a great box set!

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I got the answer. Zappa/Mothers. Weird but I was playing show #1 in the new box just as I read your post. Excellent set, by the way.

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My first show

It would be a great release

I figure it's not in the vault with no soundboard anyway

I do have an audience copy

Note: waiting in parking lot at veterinarian while I hear the yellow dog story from 1 23 70

Lol

Nice work Aliced

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I think its this show that Blair Jackson wrote about in the opening chapter of his book "The Music Never Stopped". As much about the scene as the actual music - I can still remember reading it on the train back from Manchester to Oldham in 1983. Fascinating.
Incidentally, at the end of the book he reviews some of the best tapes available at that time - the first time I knew such things existed. I wondered how I would go about getting and hearing these some of these shows he talked about. Little did I know what was on the horizon.

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The version of 7-18-82 I was playing was recently made available by the usual gang of idiots in 24 bit...so much thanks go out to these folks who keep us in mind and supply these shows...

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My accountant insists that I make the trek to Vegas on May 5th & 6th...on Cinco De Mayo I shall be at the Theater At Virgin Hotel (formerly the Hard Rock Joint, when did this happen?) for el Mariachi Vargas de Tecalitlán, the finest mariachi there is and on the 6th I shall be at Boulder Station for Los Lobos, finest band in the land...makes it easy for the Boulder show as that's where I'll be staying...so live music, Zia Records, good food and a Crown Royal rocks sounds good...Oh this is all in celebration of the fact that I have a new job dispatching for a shuttle company that travels twice daily from the South Rim to the North Rim from May 15th to November 15th...that should keep me in pork chop money....

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Nappy, congratulations on your new job.

Cousins, thanks, 12/26/79 will be up on the Archive soon.

And everyone, thanks for all the kind words. The Archive provides a proper place to share these recordings, just as I did 30 years ago with close deadhead friends.

Nite Cat: Dang that 12/26/79 show is a favorite of mine. I always say it may be my favorite show that I didn't see. That show just hits all my aural pleasures. Bet that was a lot of fun. Can't wait to hear your audience compared to SB. Had to be good as it was Dick's 5th, so know he liked it.

That Mike: noticed the new pic/avatar but had not looked at it closely. Awesome!

Anybody go to the Skull and Roses show at Ventura earlier this month? Stumbled across that earlier today on youtube. Have saved for later. They have a faux WoS above the stage. Sweet. I have some other buddies that do an Ozzy tribute and do it well. My friend Ed about a decade ago took ply wood and speaker stickers to make it look like they have a big bank of Marshall's. Looks cool but still just ply wood and speakers. And wow, are they loud. I rarely even go see them. I wrote last year about a friend that worked for Ultrasound for almost 20 years. He mixes them and he mixes them loud. Makes my ears ring just thinking about it.

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Listened to a chunk of DaP 13 2/24/74 today since I had a longer commute than usual and in preparation for the Ship gliding in one day soon. Always super excited for a 1974 show, just because of that wondrous sound, and Phil's thunderous notes and Jerry's pristine trills fluttering together is just heavenly. Great China> Rider, decent Playing, a ripping Cumberland, and a great WRS> Row Jimmy, Ship of Fools, and I got the first few minutes of Dark Star, which I'll start over for tomorrow's ride in. Can't wait to compare and contrast the 20 min Other One from 42 vs 13's 30 min Dark Star, and the WRS is even bigger on 42, and melts into a dream, so that should be nice. The Bonus is gravy, like getting two Ships for the price of one. Wonder which arrives first: DaP 1 vinyl or DaP 42?

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I'm surprised dap 42 is still available. Currently listening to dap 26. I'm glad you guys are talking 12/26/79. P.S.- drinking sierra nevada hazy little thing IPA.

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SELLS OUT @ 7:44AM PDT 04/22/22

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I could be wrong, but I believe it's already sold out. Still.. I think you nailed it (almost)

I feel both remorse and pride.. remorse for those that missed it by that much balanced by the pride to see another Great 74 GD get the delayed love it earned long ago.

Happy for those that will get this and sad for those that either won't or have to pay more.

The thing with 74, love it or not.. there were only 40 shows the whole year and most have been released by this point. Plus, it's one of the relatively few apex periods. Not perfect, not flawless but far from secondary. idk.. feels a bit special to me but I am clearly biased.

Be good all, but not too good.

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1974 isn't perfect by any means, but that may be why its such an enduring year. Genuine developing, growing in front of your ears, living and breathing music. Chances still being taken- some things work-some don't - but the overall approach, for me, does.
I guess you could say that for any year , and you either like the approach in question...or you don't.

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SOLD OUT?

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One of the best tracks EVER

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I love Dave's description of this show as a great rock and roll show. Those are the shows that always grabbed me, especially the shows of the 1980s and 1990s. I had friends in grad school (1995-98) who were Heads and we had one argument that would never let up-- I loved Bob songs and they did not like them and really generally did not care for Bob. They were very Jerry-centric. I was always asking, how can you not like half the songs of any given concert? I never did get a good answer to that one.

Especially in the 1980s and 1990s eras, Bob songs were the rockers. Jerry had his rockers, but lots of ballads that I always felt slowed down a set, especially that post D/S ballad slot. While it may be sacrilege to some on here, there are to this day Jerry ballads that I skip every time (after a first listen to see how it is). So, yes Dave Lemieux, give me a rocking show and this one appears to have the goods.

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Miles Davis: Live at Fillmore East
Rolling Stones: Love You Live
Tedeschi Trucks Band: Live at Oakland Fox
Count Basie: April In Paris
Taj Mahal: The Real Thing (Live 1971 Fillmore East)

GOGD:
11/11/73
10/18/72
DaP 40, Deer Creek 1990
5/25/72

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Gary F, I have a mini 'Deadbase Jr.' that lists all Dead shows with checks by each show I saw. I count over 400 shows. I was lucky to live in the Bay Area, where in later years, the Dead did long runs at several Bay Area venues, Frost, Greek, Cal Expo, Shoreline, Kaiser, Oakland Colseum, BCT, Marin Civic, SF Civic.

Early on in 1972 at Berkeley Community Theater I saw two shows back to back, 8/24 and 8/25. Or possibly 8/22 and 8/24. After the second night, I realized I had seen a completely different show than the night before, and if I went to several shows, I could hear a wider range of songs. From that point on, I did complete runs as much as possible. Tickets were so much cheaper then, and I had less demands on my wallet.

I also began traveling in around 1978 to see the boys. I would go see any show in California. I had this theory that they played better, more energetic shows on the road, and busted out rarities, too. Not sure if this was true, or not, but I began traveling to Socal, up to the Northwest, and out to Red Rocks. So I guess you could call me a Road Warrior, it was exciting on the road going to see the boys.

Gary, not sure what you are referring to about stopping at 1980 Maine.

Disappointed misses? If I'd known I might have made it to Harding Theater in 1971. I was in Europe in 1973 so I missed Kezar 73. I never made it to the East Coast for a Spring or Fall Tour. All in all, I feel eternally blessed to have been born in the right place and in the right time.

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Good Evening Dead.net. (vampire like voice)Having a rough week, We will get by, but been really enjoying the chat here for this release especially nitecat, vguy72, keithfan, etc. and other frequent members posting good vibes. Did Long Strange Trip and Grateful Dead movie recently and Love Crazy Wall Of Sound! Also just started binging X-Files again hehe can't get enough. Oh and Stanley Cup Playoffs just on the horizon..........Last five includes lotsa anniversary Dead March-April soon May Europe 72 always in play....anyhow
1. Dirty Dancing 20th anniversary edition side note my parents stopped by my work today when I was listening to this and the song "Hey! Baby" (Bruce Channel) was on and my Dad said it was banned when he was young??
2. Bob Marley-Talkin' Blues
3. Goerge Jones-Hits I Missed...
4. Pixies-Wave of Mutilation
5. Eddie Money-Right Here which includes good rock n roll plus ballad I'll Get By somewhat tribute to Bill Graham

Did 4/22/78 Nashville today too

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Some excellent sounding Tapes NiteCat. I am in awe.

Thanks for sharing stories over the years and thanks so much for both taping as many shows as you have and graciously sharing them with us. Seriously, I cannot thank you enough.

Back to your previously scheduled 1974 five star all you eat buffet

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Only 40 shows all of '74?? I knew they had to curtail things a bit, I didn't realize it was THAT many. I was coincidentally counting '71 shows first half of the year the other night, and they had 40 under their belt by end of April. Wall of Sound - the Titanic sound system.

Print the legend Ace....You hear the story about Ford and him goading Stewart about Woody Strode's costuming as Old Pompey...He kept pressing Stewart what he thought of it and Stewart finally told him he thought it was a bit "Uncle Remus"...Ford got after him asking if he was a secret racist...Ford made great movies but he sure was a dick...

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Please check your PM's..........

Gracias.

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....wowzers. 👏👏👏
I'm at an even 60. Born too late. Still grateful to be present and accounted for.
Hello Kriyas!
Rough weeks are an understatement. Been there. Still there.
This corner of the internet is my occasional refuge from the storms.
It'll be aok.

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These 2 shows would make a great double release. "New ones coming as the old ones go".

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I'm convinced that Dave is hoarding the #1 of the limited editions of his own picks.

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Just give me #420 again and I'll be happy :-)

Ok, a Numero Uno would be fine, too. :-)

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