DAVE'S PICKS VOL. 41: BALTIMORE CIVIC CENTER, BALTIMORE, MD 5/26/77

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You can listen to Grateful Dead records over and over again and never understand the attraction they have for certain people until you attend one of their concerts. Sometime during the Dead's usual five-hour set, it will all click: Jerry Garcia's Indian bead string of notes on the guitar, the ozone ooze of the vocal harmonies, the shifting, shuffling rhythm of bassist Phil Lesh and drummer Bill Kreutzmann, and the distant echo of the oldest of American folk music. - Columbia Flier

"Certain people" will know that we're coming in hot with one that's got all these things and more, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 41: BALTIMORE CIVIC CENTER, BALTIMORE, MARYLAND, 5/26/77. Yes, there's still plenty of spectacular May '77 to go around. Nearly chosen for Dave's Picks Vol. 1, 5/26/77 delivers three-fold. There's one count for the energy - all the precision of the Spring tour conjuring up the raw power of the Fall tour that was to come. There's another for the setlist which featured beloved songs from WORKINGMAN'S DEAD and soon-to-be favorites from the freshly recorded TERRAPIN STATION. And a third for its element of surprise (or shall we say surprises) from an astonishingly peak 15-minute "Sugaree" to new delights ("Sunrise," "Passenger," "Jack-A-Roe') to a rare first-set finale of "Bertha" to the second set's "Terrapin>Estimated>Eyes," traveling leaps and bounds towards the improvisational journey that is a nearly 17-minute "Not Fade Away."

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 41: BALTIMORE CIVIC CENTER, BALTIMORE, MARYLAND, 5/26/77 was recorded by Betty Cantor-Jackson and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. Grab a copy while you can.

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April 1, 2022 - 7:35am

#251

Dennis

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November 1, 2012

Maybe I'm the April Fool

... or I missed it.

Just brought to my attention, a new release of a rolling stones show from 1977. The vinyl is not cheap, but the cds were affordable. Looked like the "limited" color vinyl only available from the stones site.

The sucker/fool that I am, I bit!

I'm counting on these "limited" vinyl collections to fund my retirement. Hope they don't let me down. I planning on having bills no honest man could pay by then.
April 1, 2022 - 7:21am

#252

nappyrags

Joined:
January 24, 2013

DAVEROCK re Lisa

Yes she was quite the Vocal Goddess! Have you seen "20 Feet From Stardom"?...it's a killer documentary on back up singers...it has Merry Clayton, Lisa, Claudia Lennear and others...way cool...on the 2013 Rolling Stones tour I went to see them in San Jose...we had killer seats and during a "quiet" moment I screamed out "Lisa!!! Lisa!!!" ...she smiled and waved...then I screamed out "I want to have your baby!!!" I knew she heard that too because she visibly started with a kinda "Huh?" look...
April 1, 2022 - 6:06am

#253

simonrob

Joined:
June 7, 2007

Vinyl prices...

Back in the 1960s in England I remember buying singles for 6/8 (6 shillings and 8 pence) and LPs for 19/11 (19 shillings and 11 pence, just under £1). That was in the days of the old pounds shillings and pence. Younger readers will have no idea what I'm talking about. In those days they were called records, not vinyl, because that was the only format for recorded music. I'll stop now because I'm making myself feel old.
April 1, 2022 - 6:00am

#254

DeadVikes

Joined:
October 26, 2016

Big Announcement Coming

Big Announcement Coming from Rhino today to tie you over until the next big release.

Oh wait, the tube socks are already on the site for sale, nevermind.
April 1, 2022 - 5:29am

#255

PT Barnum

Joined:
December 2, 2009

vinyl

I still have some, about 1000. Used to have about 5000 but during the 90's sold a lot of them as CD's were the new thing and only kept the old and favorites. I still will buy a vinyl record occasionally, the last one I purchased was Cat Stevens' soundtrack to Harold and Maude. A favorite movie of my wife's and there are several songs on the lp that are not released on any other Cat Stevens record or cd sprinkled in with tunes from Tea for the Tillerman. Purchased on record store day, it was 25 bucks for yellow vinyl. Also in my opinion, the colored vinyl doesn't seem to have the sound that black vinyl does, don't know why a color added to the vinyl would reduce or limit the sound, but it seems to do just that.
IMO the Grateful Dead live really don't lend themselves to vinyl and the time limitations on said medium. But let's look at the cost of vinyl records now days. Is the cost of producing vinyl the reason that the cost is so alarming? or is it tptb just making the most out of what they have to offer? My first long playing record that I purchased cost .99 cents, of course, that was a very long time ago.
April 1, 2022 - 2:33am

#256

daverock

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Makes you think

It's quite sobering, reading people's thoughts on vinyl. It feels a bit ridiculous at the moment, paying such a massive price for something I already have, and only play once a year-if that. I still might go for the Wembley show from Europe 72 when it comes out on RSD - which should be under £100.00. But even saying that....what an indulgence!

My approach is similar to how Deadfeati describes his Dead listening now-in sips rather than chugs. And vinyl fits into this style quite nicely. 2 sides now. Maybe 2 later on. Carry on tomorrow. You can obviously do this with cds, too, but I'm more likely to collapse in a heap when I put one of those on, and wait till it's all over.

Nappy - I always thought it would be great to see Lisa Fischer of The Stones do a solo show. Her singing with them is always a highlight - especially on Gimme Shelter. She easily had the best stage presence as well in the 90s and 00's. Like watching a Goddess in the presence of a bunch of oiks.
April 1, 2022 - 12:02am

#257

frankparry

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Vinyl

Apparently there is a worldwide shortage of vinyl and many releases, especially from smaller labels, are being delayed or having to be released at greater cost because of the shortage. Still doesn’t excuse big hikes or make it any more palatable but might be a contributing factor. Gasp, shock horror admission - I only buy vinyl when I absolutely have to or when the artwork is sufficiently impressive. I don’t have much money either for a large collection or for a system of sufficient quality to detect any noticeable sound improvement.
March 31, 2022 - 8:10pm

#258

nappyrags

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MIM

I've mentioned the MIM (Musical Instrument Museum) in Phoenix before...excellent place, mind blowing actually...anyway they sponsor a fairly eclectic concert series...It's where I saw Taj Mahal a couple of weeks ago...I've also seen Los Lobos there a few times, Albert Lee & Booker T Jones etc...one really cool gig was the night after The Stones played in Phoenix, a lot of the musicians that tour with them, the back up singers, Chuck Leavell, Karl Denson and Tim Ries along with other musician friends did a gig there, the highlight being Bernard Fowler's soulful rendition of Wild Horses....made me think it was how Otis would've done it if he had lived...made for a great evening of music...anyway, the Museum just released their Summer Series Line Up...mas cool stuff...what I wish I could go see is Pandit Vishwa Mohan Bhatt and Pandit Subhen Chatterjee...Subhen Chatterjee is a tabla player who kicks ass and Vishwa Mohan Bhatt plays a modified acoustic guitar lap style and gets the craziest sitar and sarod sounds with a slide...look them up on youtube, you'll dig it...they're playing mid August so it's a no go for me...I'll have just returned from a four state swing from AZ, UT, CO & NM for the Tedeschi Trucks Band/Los Lobos gigs at Red Rocks and besides, it would take the second coming of Jimi Hendrix to get me to go to Phoenix in August...
March 31, 2022 - 7:36pm

#259

JimInMD

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Re: Appreciate Garcia So Much More

I couldn't agree more with this comment.

I do like the after-carnations, but I think I am going to pass this summer. Sometimes it's great to meet old friend and groove to the music though.. music is healing, or as a very generous and kind person once said, music is the best.

I do miss the Terror of Garcia on a good night. I read something recently that summed up my thoughts on this. Let me look for it, I hope to update with a Lancelot Linque (secret chimp).

Found it.. on YouTube, search "Was Jerry Garcia a Good Guitarist?"
March 31, 2022 - 7:27pm

#260

Angry Jack Straw

Joined:
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Bob and his band

Could not agree more. Way to slow. No juice at all. Same with Dead and Co. I caught one of Bob’s shows this tour and it was mediocre at best. Of all these iterations of the band, I still liked Futhur the best. Even then, all that did was make me appreciate Garcia so much more. After the Bob show, I had to pop in a CD so that I could listen to how the songs should be played.

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You can listen to Grateful Dead records over and over again and never understand the attraction they have for certain people until you attend one of their concerts. Sometime during the Dead's usual five-hour set, it will all click: Jerry Garcia's Indian bead string of notes on the guitar, the ozone ooze of the vocal harmonies, the shifting, shuffling rhythm of bassist Phil Lesh and drummer Bill Kreutzmann, and the distant echo of the oldest of American folk music. - Columbia Flier

"Certain people" will know that we're coming in hot with one that's got all these things and more, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 41: BALTIMORE CIVIC CENTER, BALTIMORE, MARYLAND, 5/26/77. Yes, there's still plenty of spectacular May '77 to go around. Nearly chosen for Dave's Picks Vol. 1, 5/26/77 delivers three-fold. There's one count for the energy - all the precision of the Spring tour conjuring up the raw power of the Fall tour that was to come. There's another for the setlist which featured beloved songs from WORKINGMAN'S DEAD and soon-to-be favorites from the freshly recorded TERRAPIN STATION. And a third for its element of surprise (or shall we say surprises) from an astonishingly peak 15-minute "Sugaree" to new delights ("Sunrise," "Passenger," "Jack-A-Roe') to a rare first-set finale of "Bertha" to the second set's "Terrapin>Estimated>Eyes," traveling leaps and bounds towards the improvisational journey that is a nearly 17-minute "Not Fade Away."

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 41: BALTIMORE CIVIC CENTER, BALTIMORE, MARYLAND, 5/26/77 was recorded by Betty Cantor-Jackson and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. Grab a copy while you can.

Acid test

The last Dead show I listened to was the Fillmore Acid Test from 1/8/66. And watched, too-I got it on a dvd-r of it a few years ago called "Can You Pass The Acid Test?" It's a fascinating historical document-and features complete, or almost complete versions of The Dead playing "King Bee", "Caution" and "Death Don't Have No Mercy." Pretty good sound quality and picture - taking into account the fact that it was recorded and filmed by people tripping their brains out 56 years ago. Bit of conflict between The Dead - well, Pigpen - and the Pranksters. He is clearly losing patience with their shenanigans.

HF

Have you tried emailing DL?
I don’t have his address but I know some folks on here do.
He might not be able to tell you if/when that would get released, but he could perhaps inform you as to the status of the tapes for that show. Like: “sorry dude, no tapes for that one” so at least you’d know that.
Just a thought, hate to see how much it’s driving you nuts ; )

Skull & Roses Festival Report

Just returned from sunny SoCal and four days at the Festival in Ventura fairgrounds. What fun we had! The entire four days were streamed for free on Relix youtube. I hope some of you dug the stream of DSO Saturday night headliners (two sets) and Phil & F Sunday headliners. The stream is still up. DSO performed the entire Empire Pool 5/8/72 with an awesome second set DS>Sugur Mag> Caution! Caution is pretty rare these days, a really good one. I swear, when Phil came on, it transformed the entire crowd. They were all up and shakin' it.

Another highlight was Thursday's acoustic performance by RECKONING, featuring Rob Eaton, John Kadlecik, Rob Barraco & Skip Vangelas.

One lowlight was a long delayed (technical issues) performance by Oteil and Friends. Took them at least 45 minutes to come on, and then they played a really short set, with sound issues.

Many moments over the four days sent shivers down my back, as these were my first outdoor shows in 2 years!

Re: Colin

Ha.. post of the week, "Surely a missed opportunity."

Just got back from Billy Strings....

....gawdamn!!
That band gets in the pocket.
You know what I mean.

Daves 42 image on Grateful Dead Facebook Winterland 2/23/74

on FB: Save the date ⏰ The pre-order for Dave’s Picks Volume 42 is landing in just a few days on April 19!

I have not been here for awhile and do not know if this has been disscussed.

Good info, Oro...

I believe my source is correct on the 9-19-72 show missing the first reel. The odds of it showing up in the OSF mystery pile are at least a rational hope, in that Owsley recorded the shows just before and after it. (Maybe entire fall '72 tour?)

Not really going nuts, just yelling into the void, hoping serendipity calls back...

1972

Roosevelt Stadium in September 1972. What a good way to start Hendrixfreak. You definitely were at some great shows. I got my start at 15 as well. In 1986 at the Metrodome in Minneapolis. Dylan, the Dead and Petty. I can guarantee you nobody will ever be clamoring for this show to be released.

Daves 42 cover art....

....was leaked on Reddit as well.
It's awesome.

I got lucky, Deadvikes

First I got inundated with WD, AB and S&R for a year, then my older brother included me on a ride to that fateful 9-19-72 show.

Get this: after about 3 hours of the GD blasting away, I felt like they'd done their job, delivered a great show and ... okay, time to wrap it up, this kid's getting tired (was not tripping, but had some hash). Thanks boys, great show, etc.

Well, the band went on for another hour! What I'd give to experience that very show NOW!

P.S. Always sorry I missed Petty in concert. Never turned down a ticket, just didn't seek him out. My loss.

42 artwork, space guitars

Great cover there, those cables under the ship, electricity under wall water? Dangerous! Interesting though all to brief piece Space Guitars by Mark Kaufman on Mashable, mentions of Jimi and Jerry and esp Buddy Holly (check out those shoes) who first broke the Strat wide open. Nice to know there's a chunk of Jimi's pyromania from Monterey at the Met!

At 15

I'm not sure I would have liked the Dead live, had I seen them in 1972, when I was also 15. The bands I saw and liked then were a world away, much heavier, more dramatic.. much shorter shows, too ! I suppose the bands I liked mirrored the time, place and state of mind that I found myself in. But it was only a temporary phase - by 19 I had expanded my horizons, and the Dead sound tracked that. On record, obviously. But it never really struck me as teenage music, in quite the same way as Hawkwind, Black Sabbath or David Bowie - for example, did.

Last Five....Handle With Caution

Talking Heads - The Name Of This Band Is Talking Heads
The Carpenters - Now & Then
Huey Lewis & The News - Fore!
Molly Tuttle - Broken Tree
Obscura - Omnivium

Last 5 + what’s playing now

JGB 8-10-91 (playing now)

GD 4-15-78
GD 4-16-72
GD 4-14-72
GD 4-11-72
GD 6-22-73

Random info

I have a paper copy of GD Almanac, Winter 2004.
On page 10 is the back catalog of CD’s.

Dick’s Picks 1-32 were available:
1 CD $13
2 CD’s $18
3 CD’s $21
4 CD’s $25
6 CD’s $33

Assuming that those prices stayed the same for DP 33-36, the total cost for DP 1-36 new factory sealed would have been $778 for 112 CD’s.

Terrapin Limited was $39.50 for 3 CD’s.
Dozin’ At The Nick was $23 for 3 CD’s.
Closing of Winterland $27 for 4 CD’s, $29.95 for 2 DVD’s.
Downhill From Here $30 for 1 DVD.

eBay

42 with bonus disc
$78.99
John Kay
New Hyde Park N.Y..

Happy Easter and Passover

on those random numbers, also consider that not all that long ago (but more than a few years), there were periodic sales on dead.net, often around July 4th and a couple other dates like Thanksgiving, significant discounts were available, free shipping, sometimes on almost every bit of music/video in catalog. Swag was rare. As well, one could find almost anything on the secondary market at very reasonable cost.

I'm revisiting the JGB Electric On The Eel box....

....Twilight was a treasure.
Happy Easter and Passover everyone!
I favor the '89 show from that box. Grate stuff.
Speaking of dead.net sales, I recall scoring Dicks 26-30 for under a hundred bucks.
I literally stole them.
The stamp cover series.
Now, dead.net puts out overpriced trash 80% of the time. Sorry, not sorry.
I do enjoy the glasses though.
A 1989 box would be just fine. That was my most prevalent year. Sign me up. Include Cal Expo please.
It's got a Playin' -> Rider. And a second set Cumberland.

Cal Expo '89

Yes indeedy...Cumberland was out of Crazy Fingers and the Playin' > Know You Rider was a mind boggler...my friend Bob and I went...we drove from the Canyon to the Phoenix airport after he got off after his evening shift as a line cook at the El Tovar Hotel...we had a 6:30 AM flight to Oakland where a friend of mine was flying in from LA...we grabbed a rental (a brand spankin' new Cadillac) for the drive to Sacramento...we almost didn't make it though as a an accident on the interstate blocked traffic for quite awhile...we pulled into the airport and made it to the plane with a few minutes to spare...we finally relaxed and as the plane leveled out after take off, the flight attendants started rolling down the aisle with the beverage carts...of course everyone was getting OJ, coffee and tea but I asked for a shot of cognac...the young lady just gave a double take and I explained we had been stuck on the freeway, nearly missed the plane and we were on our way to three Grateful Dead shows for the weekend...she smiled, looked around and said "in that case you might need a double and poured me a nice glass worth....In Oakland I had to sit for a bit before going to the rental agency so I didn't appear too loopy...one issue with the weekend...we were in a Red Roof Inn full of dead heads and security banged on our door saying one of the neighboring guests had called to complain about the pot smell...Jeezus lady your entire building is fulla freaks! Now I have to go dig out the drive those shows are on!

What Nappy said....

....I played a lot of hacky-sack at Cal.
The beer flowed.

9am in CA

Where’s our DaP 42 announcement and obligatory seaside chat?

No reason to hold off on the announcement considering that pictures of DaP 42 have been released on other websites, and that you can already place an order for DaP 42 on eBay.

Back from...

HAWAII!

such an amazing place

and a new Daves announcement soon

Go to the Big Island

:)))

Dave's Picks #42

Okay, Conekid, curious if you know how eBay sellers have the pictures of the release before Dead. Net makes the announcement?
They must be serious insiders.

Mañana

For what’ it’s worth, someone said something about tomorrow, which would make sense as they often drop stuff on Tuesday’s…

Deadvikes

Scroll down to the posts below.
I was just repeating what others have already posted.

Ebay

They’re all pirates………aargh

$78.00 from John Kay and $82 from some other guy. What a racket

42 cover art

Had to search for it, didn't see any ebay results, but didn't search with ebay in the googles question machine, but the website that did have a pic showed probably my favorite cover of the series. Wow. Few titles on display in the artwork at first glance, can't wait to get my eyes and ears on it in person, plus hope the Bonus cover is just as nice. Really looking forward to this release.

Which reminds me, Dave's 1 vinyl should be rolling in soon (thankfully that was paid for months ago), and I should be heading out this weekend to plunk down another 150 on 4/8/72 on vinyl, and they want another 600 with tax and shipping for four more Europe '72 shows. May have to pass on the Lyceum box, but we'll also see how long it sits there. God save me from visiting deadnet on a day when I'm surprisingly flush, though...

DaP 1 Vinyl

Not quite sure what I'm going to play this on yet.

Bonus Disc show coming soon.....this should kick some ass. Kinda wish I hadn't listened to the sound board as much as I did, but as I told the judge after a night of debauchery - your honor, I just couldn't help myself. Heh, talk about securing mandatory rehab.

I'm ahead of schedule on the E72 joy ride. I really like the Dead Beat Club version of The Other One. Top notch.

Daves #42 Cover

Daves #42 Cover was leaked on Facebook so you can see it there.

That cover art is going to make an awesome Libby glass....

....my credit card is ready.
I'm guessing Alvarhanso had a good tax return.

Bobby sighting

Sitting courtside under one of the baskets at Warriors/Nuggets game tonight

Re: VGuy

Alas, poor Alvar I know him well. I was attempting to say if I were to be comfortably willing to drop 600 bucks, then I kinda hope I wouldn't visit deadnet that day, or that it would be sold out. Not really hoping that, but 4 shows for 600 is a helluva lot more to answer to the wife about than 30 Trips at 700. Especially given this would be 4 shows in a row, and I'm getting 4/8/72 to pair with last year's 5/3/72, which I listened to straight through last year upon getting home. Fantastic sound on vinyl. I wish Uncle Sam were letting me get some more European vinyl, not great timing. Especially with my own first brief trip to Europe (Ireland) 2 weeks ago. We'll see which way the winds blow my own ship of fools. Really looking forward to Dave's 42. Not sure it will be the Answer to the Ultimate Question of Life, the Universe, and Everything, but hopefully it's nearly that.

Dicks 19 on vinyl?

I've started lagging behind with vinyl a bit. I was going to get Dicks Picks 19 when it became available on Amazon UK, but now it is, I'm having second thoughts. It's cost is the equivalent of $316 ! Quite a lot for a show I already have, and which features music I am very familiar with.
I also prefer vinyl to other formats for listening to The Dead, as someone else ( I forget who-apologies) pointed out on here the other day. But I'm not sure I prefer it THAT much!

Jim’s 40th today!

Let’s grab some nitrous and crank up 4/19/82 in his honor!
Cheers! Ssssssssssssssssssssssss

Don’t you let that deal go down

On the last episode of Billions, “Cold Storage”, they play Deal from Garcia version at the end of the show, used artistically nicely. That’s 2 episodes now with significant GD references. Obviously someone’s a DH : )

And Have A..

HAPPY BICYCLE DAY EVERYONE!!! AND THANK YOU DR. HOFFMAN!!!

Oh and see you all on 42…

Oh and see you all on 42 shortly as I guess 41 will be disappearing too

42

I wish we knew what was on the bonus disc?
Guess we’ll have to wait until official release day…

DaP 42 release announcement is up, comments open

Official release info posted in the last hour, copies available, don't snooze!

42

41 is DEAD!!!!!

Last Five, and a book review

From my cassette/Internet Archive digitization project:
GOGD Red Rocks 9/8/83
GOGD Watsonville 9/25/83 - a great outdoor show with an awesome China Rider.
Digitizing for a friend:
Fela and his 35 piece afro-beat orchestra, Berkeley Community Theater 11/14/86

GOGD St Louis 10/29/73 - Powerful Eyes of the World into China Doll
The Byrds - The Notorious Bird Brothers - a psychedelic masterpiece

I'm reading Chris Hillman's autobiography " Time Between" which inspired me to provide a Byrds music background. It's pretty good, and it's interesting to read his description of working and living with Gram Parson as they teamed up as the Burrito Brothers.

42

SOLD OUT so let's take 43 guesses, I'm going with 9/26/81.

#43

4/27/85 & 4/28/85. Frost Ampitheatre

As good as anywhere.....

Just a reminder,,,,, Record Store Day tomorrow. Be there or be square!

I'll be in line about 6 AM

No Stores Here In The Wilderness

No RSD for me. Can't do the 65 mile drive tomorrow to Triple Play Records Grand Junction, CO.
What Dead will be offered?
Thanks and cheers!

RSD

Wembley 4/8/72 is the Dead one coming out. I know it's not in the spirit of the day, but I have always managed to get RSD releases online. Still from an independent record shop, but without having to leave the luxury of my own home.

I’m not waiting in line

But will head down to the local shop tomorrow after they open, they usually get a couple of copies. If there is one left for me grate, if not, not a problem, I already have it on CD.

Currently working my way through 4-24-72 Dark Star.

Wow..

Super impressed with the sound you pulled out of the Seattle Center. Listening to it now.

4/24/70 (and 4/25?) Mammoth Gardens Denver, CO

Researching my older sister's first (and only maybe) show as a surprise for her. She was 17 and tripping from the story I remember. We called the place Elitch Gardens by the name of the amusement park it was when the music outdoor garden part wasn't used so much anymore. Wasn't very big as I recall. Deadbase list this as two shows but I'm finding reviews of it as one show with a break in the tape at Man's World. Thought it unusual to have an acoustic/elec. set that ends in Drums on the first night and the second night starts with Dark Star?!? I could see it if they got rained out or something. Looks primal to me from the setlist(s). Any lore on this I can tell her? Thanks and cheers
Edit: I was totally wrong on the location of the venue. Nothing to do with Elitch Gardens at all but a "Fillmore" on Clakson St. that started doing rock concerts in Spring 1970. This was maybe only the second show at that renamed refurbished venue. John Hammond opened and according to a newspaper article (Colo. Spgs. paper?) he was boring. But the reviewer had very high praise for this show. Also appears that there was only one night and it was 4/25/70.

Thanks, Jiminmd

Thanks for the compliment, glad you like the sound of Seattle.

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