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    One more Saturday night at Winterland! Yes, we're back to home base for DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 42, the complete show from Winterland, San Francisco, 2/23/74. The one that featured the earliest amalgamation of what would soon become the Wall of Sound, the one that is so "loud, clear, and defined," it's been ripe for release for quite some time and we're glad it's finally getting its due.

    First set or second, there are no wrong answers here. From the unique show opener of Chuck Berry's "Around And Around" and an incredible "Here Comes Sunshine" that would then disappear for 18 years, to a medley of WAKE OF THE FLOOD tracks - "Row Jimmy," "Weather Report Suite," and "Stella Blue" - cementing their status in the canon and an unstoppable hour through the classic 1973-1974 Dead that is “He’s Gone”>“Truckin’”>“Drums”>“The Other One”>“Eyes Of The World,” it's all exceptionally hot.

    Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 42: WINTERLAND, SAN FRANCISCO, 2/23/74 was recorded by Kidd Candelario and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. Grab a copy while you can.

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  • billy the kiddd
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    Europe 72 box set / Fillmore West box set

    I see a few brand new copies of the Europe 72 steamer trunk on eBay ranging from $2395.00 to $4500.00. You can buy it at a lesser price for one that's not rated brand new. I think I bought the Fillmore West box for $80.00 when it first came out ; I bought 2 copies one for me and one for my brother. The Grateful Dead used to send out an almanac in the. mail and that's where I heard about it. It didn't sell out right away. I don't think that this web site was even up at that time.

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    I would keep your eyes on eBay for the E72 Steamer Trunk. Sometimes you can get lucky. Negotiate, sometimes it works. Discogs is risky for that big of a purchase because if something goes awry you have zero protection. There is no discogs customer service or even human beings that run that site. At least with eBay you have eBay guarantees if the seller doesn't offer them.
    I got one after all these years last September and it was worth it.

  • daverock
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    Missing the box.

    I missed out on FW69 box which led to much wailing and gnashing of teeth. But over the last few years, three of those years have come out on vinyl, and hopefully the fourth will be following on in the near future. So I'm not so bothered about missing out on the cd box now.
    Maybe all the shows from the E72 tour will be released on vinyl, too, over the next few years. Not much use if you don't buy records...but a good incentive to (re) start if you didn't get the trunk.

  • Crow Told Me
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    It Costs a Lot to Play, Even More to Lose

    If I were betting man I’d be willing to wager that the Lyceum vinyl set sells out, eventually, and as soon as it does, it’ll sell for at least $1,000 on the “secondary market.” Because that’s what happens with more or less every limited edition release. Want to buy any of the early Dave’s Picks you missed out on? Some of those go for about $400 now.

    So, if I was smart, I’d probably buy two copies of the Lyceum set, sell one of ‘em, and keep one copy to have and to hold, basically for free. But this will not be happening, for two reasons: 1) I don’t have $1,100 to invest in anything right now, and 2) I would find a way to fuck this up somehow. (Once, I decided it would be a brilliant idea to spend my student loan money on a large quantity of weed, and then sell enough of it to make my money back, so that I could have a somewhat smaller but still fairly large amount of weed to smoke, for “free.” Six weeks later, I had neither money nor weed, and I’m still not entirely sure what happened. But I can guess.)

    I really wish I’d bought the Europe box, now, too. But I think it was about $450 when it came out, which seemed like a lot of money, then. Nowadays, individual volumes from that set usually sell for $100-200 each. Or more. Topchinacat, if you want to buy the whole set, you can usually find one at discogs.com ... if you’re willing to pay $1500-2000.

    It’s kind of weird there’s never been a Greek box, isn’t it? Wonder why. Maybe because a lot of those shows were broadcast on KPFA and there’s a lot of boots out there? Maybe the available source recordings weren’t well preserved? Maybe because it’s too obvious, and TPTB would rather surprise us with something we would never have guessed? All of the above? None?

    Someday, everything's gonna be different, when I paint my masterpiece.

  • Colin Gould
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    Arrived at last

    My copy of DaP #42 has arrived today. It will have to wait to be played as I’m expecting to be out all of tomorrow and I had deliveries of around 24 cds of varying genres so I’ll have to work my way through them.
    I’ll change my header photo as soon as I have time which will probably be Thursday so the weather underground will have to remain for a little while longer

  • proudfoot
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    box envy

    yeah...I have that regarding Fillmore West and Winterland 73 (and isn't there a Winterland June 77 box?)

    thanks a lot, "thinking I was being responsible with my money at the time."

    I do have unofficial copies of many or all of these shows, but I kinda wish at times I had the official material.

    I will NOT pass up a primal box or a Greek box. "Best of GD88 first sets box" I can live without.

  • nitecat
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    I have box envy too. I was unaware of the FW box. I got back on board when Spring 90 TOO was coming out and I listened to the pristine 24 track recordings on the listening party. Brought me right back in. Started collecting boxes right away. Picked up the Trunk and several other boxes I missed on ebay. Filled in my Dick's collection. I'm hooked now. Never sprung for the FW box, though. Now it's so pricy. I guess I'll wait until I feel flush again.

  • hendrixfreak
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    It's only Tuesday, but...

    I'm unanimous in awarding JimInMD the line of the week: "I have hatchet guilt." Actually made me laugh out loud. Thanks!

    I have box set envy: I missed buying FW69 and Winterland Nov 73. It's all psychological. At the precise times those sets came out I felt I could not justify another $100 GD box. Imagine the shortsightedness. Revel in the stupidity. Feel the frustration: Aaaarrrrgggghhhhh!!!!! (Friends have shared the music, so I'll be okay...)

    This is only somewhat mitigated by the fact that I chipped in for a friend's copy of the trunk and 30 Trips, only to encourage their procurement and enjoyment. So there's that.

    Back to business: Dave's cryptic remarks never reveal anything. It's like the Federal Reserve chairman or Kremlin-watching. It's all about the freakin' tea leaves. At least I think we know now that Dave's earlier reference to "variety" meant vinyl. Henceforth if he uses the word "primal" I'm camping by the laptop...

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    I too really love the artwork (Kwakiutl?) for the PNW box ... but it's more about the music than the art (no offense intended). And speaking of boxes, I wish to hell I'd picked up the E72 trunk .... I've got all the Dick's, but somehow, I checked out for a couple of years and only have most (not all) of the Dave's and Road Trips. I think that since I have had pretty decent boards on cassette for about a dozen of the E72 shows( and considering the cost), I didn't bite. Not too smart. Anyone have ideas on how to get a Trunk at this juncture? I am quite certain that Mrs. Cat would not appreciate the expenditure any more today than in the past, but this is a bridge that would be crossed at that time.....

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    nyuk nyuk

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One more Saturday night at Winterland! Yes, we're back to home base for DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 42, the complete show from Winterland, San Francisco, 2/23/74. The one that featured the earliest amalgamation of what would soon become the Wall of Sound, the one that is so "loud, clear, and defined," it's been ripe for release for quite some time and we're glad it's finally getting its due.

First set or second, there are no wrong answers here. From the unique show opener of Chuck Berry's "Around And Around" and an incredible "Here Comes Sunshine" that would then disappear for 18 years, to a medley of WAKE OF THE FLOOD tracks - "Row Jimmy," "Weather Report Suite," and "Stella Blue" - cementing their status in the canon and an unstoppable hour through the classic 1973-1974 Dead that is “He’s Gone”>“Truckin’”>“Drums”>“The Other One”>“Eyes Of The World,” it's all exceptionally hot.

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 42: WINTERLAND, SAN FRANCISCO, 2/23/74 was recorded by Kidd Candelario and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. Grab a copy while you can.

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Out of house at 5:15 AM, in line at 5:55. Doors opened at 7. Store did a great job of line control, was out of store by 8:15.

Once I get the Mama box of Europe LP's, I will have 6 of the 22 Europe shows on vinyl! Yeah!?!

There's only 6 that's been released, right?

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Hey Nitecat, It would be extremely cool if you could tell us more about your taping days: recording rig, adventures at venues, taping before and after there was a tapers' section, etc. Tapers' tales are always fascinating, but there just aren't enough of them. Nudge, nudge. . . Still wandering through the 13 of your shows I found on the Archive, for which an ongoing THANK YOU! for sharing. Bravissimo!

BTW: I just realized that your auds from 10/10/80 & 10/11/80 got mislabeled/misfiled on the Archive as 10/10/89 & 10/11/89. I wondered about the gap between '80 and '89 in you taping efforts, and was surprised that your taping equipment was the same after nine years. That 'splains it. Onward

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I assume they will release that whole show,,,, I also assume they will release ALL of E72 on vinyl. This will make a nice compliment to the steamer trunk,,,, to have the whole run on cd AND vinyl.

WOW,,,, I shutter at the ebay price!

Dennis - It would be good if they do - but they need to make them available to buy in Blighty for me to splash out.

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Tracking not yet available.
I expect delivery next Friday or Saturday based on past timetables.

Local record shop opened at 8, I got out of bed at 10, just had breakfast, now starting my first cup of coffee.
I’ll probably get to the record shop around 12:15.
Will there be a copy for me? I’ll let you know later.

They’re all on Losslesslegs too, under Wiseman.
I grabbed 6-13,14-80 so far but haven’t listened yet.

Thanks Nitecat.

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Seattle...very nice pull indeed!

Again, thanks so much!!!

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Dave is always displaying the one he gets in the mail on twitter - from what I recall it's always in the middle or back of the pack. That might be his playing edition, but I like him at the helm. My guess is Pinkus gets numero uno, maybe they save #1 for the GD Museum.

My best digits was #75 for DaP12 and #26 for St Louis Box. My triple digits are DaP38, RFK '89 and 1st Spring 1990. The rest are four or five digits. I typically order within an hour when new product or subscription announced, but been doing subscription from year 2.

Was bummed that my 30Trips was so far down the numerical list since I ordered it in 1st five minutes, but then again, once it's taken out of shrinkwrap its value diminishes drastically.

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Belatedly and haven't got there yet, but do look forward to listening. Much appreciation for that... also like to hear a recording adventure story or 3 back in the day. My audio geekdom aside, any details about process too. Gary might have been confused, twas me who wrote I stopped going to Dead shows in 1980. Not that I don't look back with regret on that, it was partly their scene changing and my full dive into jazz. 1980 moved deep into mountains of Vermont, half way off the grid, organic, back to the land adventures previously begun in Maine. Just a few random east coast shows after that for quite a while. Never music on the west coast, huge void there. Out in San Francisco summer 1968, 16, but with parents, kibosh on possible Santana and Dead (Fillmore and/or Shrine) shows, arrghh. Billy The Kidd, thanks for banging the drum on a 60s box, Rhino must have heard almost enough by now, just put 5-6 concerts together, 12-15 discs or so, bingo, 10K sell out. Last Beer: Lagunitas The Waldos. Last music, Rory Block, various.

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Hey All,

I've been waiting for this notification to arrive in my inbox... Not seeing it, I checked and had an oh-crap moment and realized that I somehow failed to order a subscription this year. Could have sworn I had ordered it, but then again I'm the same dummy that accidentally ordered 2 subscriptions for 2020 (forgetting that I'd already ordered one).

So, would love to connect with anyone who would be interested in trading their 2022 CD's (unopened would be great, but opened is fine as long as they're not scratched or damaged) for my unopened copies of the 2020 series (33-36). Please message me here, or at brewbat2 at yahoo dot com. Thanks y'all!

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Just got back from a casual stroll into Newbury Comics and despite my horror at finding a gaping hole in the Gs of their display, a clerk happily told me they had a bunch, but due to their size, couldn't display them all, so he pulled out about 5 copies and handed me one. Inquired on the Ramones box and they had only gotten one copy, so not needing anything else, I departed 155 bucks lighter, but with 5LPs of the show where the Dead really started their storming of Europe. The first night is okay, but this show has long seen Most Highly Favored Status along with a handful of others from Europe (4/26, 5/3, 5/7, 5/26). A welcome addition to the collection. Look forward to listening, not sure I'll do a straight through like I did 5/3 this time last year...

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Thanks for the correction. I thought when I posted Maine 1980 that I might have mixed two for one.

I can understand the deep jazz dive. I am a lover of all kinds of music.

Several months back there was discussion of the most quiet moment experienced in a live setting. Absolutely a brilliant Morning Dew can have that quiet chills moment. In the early 1990's, I saw Itzhak Perlman with the local symphony orchestra. He was so impressive, walking across the stage with his polio crutches. He then put on an hour show that was incredible. He had a moment where the whole hall hung on this incredibly quiet passage. He gave his all. Sweating profusely. He barely had the energy to walk off of the stage. One of my highlights of seeing music that goes back for me to 1972.

As far as Jazz saw Dizzy Gillespie fried on white lightning at the Blue Note in Greenwich (ooops edit) Village. Have seen him 3 times, 2 in NYC and once in my home town. Have seen Preservation Hall Jazz band numerous times, locally and in New Orleans. I went to Jazz Fest New Orleans form 1997-2004. Lots and lots of fun.

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Last five:

GD Daves hawaii shows Jan 70
David Bowie station to station
David Bowie lodger
GD in progress: 5 6 81 dixpix
Talking Heads 77

and

David Bowie young americans

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DMCVT, I've been banging the drum for a 1960s box for years on this forum. so far no luck, but Ill keep banging that drum. I would also like to see a Frost Ampitheatre Box, 1982 & 1985 shows would make up the box. You were out here in the Bay Area in 1968, my brothers friends went and saw the Grateful Dead on 5/16/68 at the Santa Clara County Fairgrounds, they saw Hendrix there in 1969. Take it easy, have a nice day.

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Good News KeithFan! Your order is on the way!

And they ain't talkin about the beer glasses.....this is the real deal...DaP 42.....Skeleton Skaters, Part Deux: Back On The Ice!

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Yes indeed, have banged that drum a few times myself along with others here, likely some of the older persuasion. Am OK with what seems emergent pattern for DaP to include a great 80s show or two, nothing against that though my prefs will always be the first decade. And for best audio possible, no cassette master please, just not enough tape there for fourth dimensional details. As far as parents and the short leash summer 1968 while in San Francisco, they held the car keys, I did not know what I was missing, they did not want to be missing me and their car. To be fair, tremendous latitude back home DC with the family car, cruised as far as MSG for Concert for Bangladesh, Ocean City MD for The Byrds.

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It's all over Discogs at the moment. Not from any UK sellers yet, but lots of U.S. outlets there.

I got into taping in 1975 at a Pink Floyd concert at the Cow Palace in Daly City, Ca. I borrowed a roommate's portable Sony recorder. It didn't have volume settings, just auto-level, and a one-point stereo mic. Because the Floyd's sound was epic, my recording came out pretty good. It was fun playing back the show and listening to it again with my roommates.

I was hooked. I sought out a portable Sony with volume controls, and stereo jacks for two mics. The only one available at the time was a huge thing called the TC-152SD. You can google it. It was the size of a thick phone book. I think its size was due to it had a built-in speaker. I bought a Teac cardiod (directional) mic, and for a time only made mono recordings - that was all I could afford at the time.

That Sony deck was a challenge to smuggle into a show, I'll tell you. I put it in a back pack, dropped the straps down so the deck sat in what I hoped was the 'small of my back' and wore a huge puffy down jacket over it all. I got it into clubs ok where there wasn't much of a search. I started taping around 1978, taping Jerry Band, Roy Buchanan. I got it into Bill Graham events a couple times (the Kinks), mainly due to the search person being distracted by the person in front of me, not intentionally, just lucky. I looked really funny wearing that huge down jacket in the summer time!

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This is one of my favorite shows. When they released 2/24, I had actually wished they'd picked this one instead. Better late than never.

With most of the recent Dave's Picks, though, there's already a great SBD in circulation. I wish they'd release some stuff that is not already available in high quality SBD.

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Managed to snag a copy of the 4/8/72 vinyl AND the ABB's 'Cream of the Crop 2003' 3-lp RSD thingy. So I'm now about $200 poorer, but I got me some cool vinyls to spin later. Both releases are ebay and discogs, for anybody who missed out,

What's my secret? After standing in line for two hours last year and getting shut out, I found a different record store, one where the neighborhood is too scary for anybody to camp out overnight, and where their clientele is mostly young punk rockers who, I guessed, would be uninterested in the GOGD or ABB. Worked like a charm. Waltzed in their at noon, picked up the rekkids, and was outta there in 15 minutes. Booyah.

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GD: DiP 15 (disc one on the ride home)
Haydn symphonies, Szell/Cleveland (can't remember which, just good morning music tho)
John Coltrane: My Favorite Things
Bill Evans: Turn Out the Stars
TTB: Best of the Beacon

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Didn't happen I just went to eBay. Of all of the RSD released 5/4/79 is my favorite I was always hoping it would get released as a CD just like 4/18/70 got both an LP & CD release.

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Phil and Friends will perform for free at the annual Stern Grove Festival in SF August 14.

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RIP Rick Turner
Alembic godfather that was an important cog in the GD technical machine that changed R&R forever!
As a proud Alembic owner, thanks for all you did directly or indirectly that allowed me many years of joy being privileged to play such a fine instrument!

NITECAT 6/13/80: good job sir!
Look forward to enjoying others.
We’ll have to get a list so we can play more on Pick of the day with discussion as we did yesterday!
400, impressive indeed! What do the real estate folks say: “ location, location, location” lucky basted, you and Billy K and the rest of you Bay Area folks. Yes, totally jealous!

As we count down to 42. perhaps we shall quote Flounder this is gonna be greaaaatttt!

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The Santa Clara Pop Fest '69 with Jimi closing the weekend...I have an ok boot of his set...guitar and band come through clearly but the vocals are muffled...five of us in a VW bug (we were a lot skinnier then) drove up the coast from LA to Big Sur for a couple of days and then on to the festival...did your Bro and his pals go to any other of the festival days?

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Hello, Newman. I have a Floyd bootleg called crackers. I think it's a BL. Have you ever heard of this tape? I received it during a dead show at giants stadium. I traded a dead tape for it from a chick I met.

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I've been busy downloading all of the Dark Star Orchestra shows. I've noticed (and have observed this with other bands).

You read the comments from the tapers and the audience, and they will talk about, "oh at this show the rain NEVER let up". Or, sorry about the recording,,,, the rain.

Now I know most of us can picture being at a show where it poured like a bitch for the whole show. And how miserable that can be.

But and a big but, you can't hear any talkers in the recordings. Like they left because they didn't come for the music and are NOT going to stand in the rain. So the tapes maybe a little hissy from the rain, but there is no goddamn talking!!!!

Now that's a plus!

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. . . or Are You Just Glad to See Me?"

Haa! Great story Nitecat – and a hilarious image. Thanks! Keep 'em coming (both your posts and your AUDs)! Onward.

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Have not heard of Floyd BL 'crackers'.

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Its listed on floydboots.com and discogs.

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Cool. Thanks for the info. Yes, I'm lazy. Thanks nitecat also.

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who would put on a phony leg cast and have friend push him in his wheelchair...the seat had a false bottom that held the tools...this was 70's stuff I believe...

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This a a 2-cd set of Hollywood Bowl 9/22/72
Dark Side-Disc1
Careful, Echoes, Saucerful, Set The Controls-Disc 2.
I’ll have to track this down, looks good.
Listening to Billy Cobham Live Ayajala ‘78
The Magic Band tour Chicago 3/4/78.
Getting ready to cue up Dave’s 21-Boston Garden 4/2/73…getting ready in advance of ‘74 show, coming soon(I hope).

Music is the Best!!

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I went to a swapmeet yesterday

Someone selling stickers

I got a bunch including a Wolf sticker (the image on Jerry's guitar...you know)

Listening to 5 25 74 today

Niiiiice

Thanks for the heads-up on my auds from 10/10/80 & 10/11/80 got mislabeled/misfiled on the Archive as 10/10/89 & 10/11/89. It has been corrected by the team.

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check pm, will be back in touch.

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I just got home from the Drive by Truckers show! They absolutely tore it up, and hats off to them for reminding me why I love live music. Respect for Mike Cooley’s guitar chops!

Thanks for the ABB info. I always have time for them! Cheers!

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Ha! Found it...the wheelchair taper was the infamous Mike Millard from LA...here's a cool story about the korneyfone label that was an offshoot of TMOQ...the article is mainly about Stan Gutoski a famous Seattle based taper...

theamazingkornyfonelabel dot wordpress dot com

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His '75 recording of one of the Stone's shows at The Forum was awesome...it came as a three LP box that sounded great for the time...I have digital rip of it and I play it every now and then...it's like a time machine for me

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Scorpions w/legendary guitarist uli Roth - sails of Charon.
Cream - politician
Electric flag - another country
Sly and the family stone _-don't call me *igger, whitey
The raiders - Indian nation

P.S.- check out the scorpions 'sails of Charon's you tube video - the 1978 German TV 16/01/78 musikladen version. Uli Roth is so incredibly badass on lead guitar w/ his psychedelic hipster clothes

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GD 5/5/77
GD 5/25/74
TRex Electric Warrior
David Bowie Diamond Dogs (a few good trax, but not as compelling as many of his albums)
Talking Heads Fear of Music (their first 4 albums are extremely tasty)

next GD:
5/7/77
the rest of 5/6/81 dix13

saw a bumpersticker two days ago "Bach Off"

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on some show, Pigpen threatens to hogtie and throw out "Mr. Electrician Man" (I think that's what he says) because of ongoing phuqery with lights or the sound

I want to use that sentiment for the reCaptcha genius

I freakin' HATE that stuff

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