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    One more Saturday night at Winterland! Yes, we're back to home base for DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 42, the complete show from Winterland, San Francisco, 2/23/74. The one that featured the earliest amalgamation of what would soon become the Wall of Sound, the one that is so "loud, clear, and defined," it's been ripe for release for quite some time and we're glad it's finally getting its due.

    First set or second, there are no wrong answers here. From the unique show opener of Chuck Berry's "Around And Around" and an incredible "Here Comes Sunshine" that would then disappear for 18 years, to a medley of WAKE OF THE FLOOD tracks - "Row Jimmy," "Weather Report Suite," and "Stella Blue" - cementing their status in the canon and an unstoppable hour through the classic 1973-1974 Dead that is “He’s Gone”>“Truckin’”>“Drums”>“The Other One”>“Eyes Of The World,” it's all exceptionally hot.

    Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 42: WINTERLAND, SAN FRANCISCO, 2/23/74 was recorded by Kidd Candelario and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. Grab a copy while you can.

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  • billy the kiddd
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    Europe 72 box set / Fillmore West box set

    I see a few brand new copies of the Europe 72 steamer trunk on eBay ranging from $2395.00 to $4500.00. You can buy it at a lesser price for one that's not rated brand new. I think I bought the Fillmore West box for $80.00 when it first came out ; I bought 2 copies one for me and one for my brother. The Grateful Dead used to send out an almanac in the. mail and that's where I heard about it. It didn't sell out right away. I don't think that this web site was even up at that time.

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    I would keep your eyes on eBay for the E72 Steamer Trunk. Sometimes you can get lucky. Negotiate, sometimes it works. Discogs is risky for that big of a purchase because if something goes awry you have zero protection. There is no discogs customer service or even human beings that run that site. At least with eBay you have eBay guarantees if the seller doesn't offer them.
    I got one after all these years last September and it was worth it.

  • daverock
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    Missing the box.

    I missed out on FW69 box which led to much wailing and gnashing of teeth. But over the last few years, three of those years have come out on vinyl, and hopefully the fourth will be following on in the near future. So I'm not so bothered about missing out on the cd box now.
    Maybe all the shows from the E72 tour will be released on vinyl, too, over the next few years. Not much use if you don't buy records...but a good incentive to (re) start if you didn't get the trunk.

  • Crow Told Me
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    It Costs a Lot to Play, Even More to Lose

    If I were betting man I’d be willing to wager that the Lyceum vinyl set sells out, eventually, and as soon as it does, it’ll sell for at least $1,000 on the “secondary market.” Because that’s what happens with more or less every limited edition release. Want to buy any of the early Dave’s Picks you missed out on? Some of those go for about $400 now.

    So, if I was smart, I’d probably buy two copies of the Lyceum set, sell one of ‘em, and keep one copy to have and to hold, basically for free. But this will not be happening, for two reasons: 1) I don’t have $1,100 to invest in anything right now, and 2) I would find a way to fuck this up somehow. (Once, I decided it would be a brilliant idea to spend my student loan money on a large quantity of weed, and then sell enough of it to make my money back, so that I could have a somewhat smaller but still fairly large amount of weed to smoke, for “free.” Six weeks later, I had neither money nor weed, and I’m still not entirely sure what happened. But I can guess.)

    I really wish I’d bought the Europe box, now, too. But I think it was about $450 when it came out, which seemed like a lot of money, then. Nowadays, individual volumes from that set usually sell for $100-200 each. Or more. Topchinacat, if you want to buy the whole set, you can usually find one at discogs.com ... if you’re willing to pay $1500-2000.

    It’s kind of weird there’s never been a Greek box, isn’t it? Wonder why. Maybe because a lot of those shows were broadcast on KPFA and there’s a lot of boots out there? Maybe the available source recordings weren’t well preserved? Maybe because it’s too obvious, and TPTB would rather surprise us with something we would never have guessed? All of the above? None?

    Someday, everything's gonna be different, when I paint my masterpiece.

  • Colin Gould
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    Arrived at last

    My copy of DaP #42 has arrived today. It will have to wait to be played as I’m expecting to be out all of tomorrow and I had deliveries of around 24 cds of varying genres so I’ll have to work my way through them.
    I’ll change my header photo as soon as I have time which will probably be Thursday so the weather underground will have to remain for a little while longer

  • proudfoot
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    box envy

    yeah...I have that regarding Fillmore West and Winterland 73 (and isn't there a Winterland June 77 box?)

    thanks a lot, "thinking I was being responsible with my money at the time."

    I do have unofficial copies of many or all of these shows, but I kinda wish at times I had the official material.

    I will NOT pass up a primal box or a Greek box. "Best of GD88 first sets box" I can live without.

  • nitecat
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    I have box envy too. I was unaware of the FW box. I got back on board when Spring 90 TOO was coming out and I listened to the pristine 24 track recordings on the listening party. Brought me right back in. Started collecting boxes right away. Picked up the Trunk and several other boxes I missed on ebay. Filled in my Dick's collection. I'm hooked now. Never sprung for the FW box, though. Now it's so pricy. I guess I'll wait until I feel flush again.

  • hendrixfreak
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    It's only Tuesday, but...

    I'm unanimous in awarding JimInMD the line of the week: "I have hatchet guilt." Actually made me laugh out loud. Thanks!

    I have box set envy: I missed buying FW69 and Winterland Nov 73. It's all psychological. At the precise times those sets came out I felt I could not justify another $100 GD box. Imagine the shortsightedness. Revel in the stupidity. Feel the frustration: Aaaarrrrgggghhhhh!!!!! (Friends have shared the music, so I'll be okay...)

    This is only somewhat mitigated by the fact that I chipped in for a friend's copy of the trunk and 30 Trips, only to encourage their procurement and enjoyment. So there's that.

    Back to business: Dave's cryptic remarks never reveal anything. It's like the Federal Reserve chairman or Kremlin-watching. It's all about the freakin' tea leaves. At least I think we know now that Dave's earlier reference to "variety" meant vinyl. Henceforth if he uses the word "primal" I'm camping by the laptop...

  • topchinacat
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    I too really love the artwork (Kwakiutl?) for the PNW box ... but it's more about the music than the art (no offense intended). And speaking of boxes, I wish to hell I'd picked up the E72 trunk .... I've got all the Dick's, but somehow, I checked out for a couple of years and only have most (not all) of the Dave's and Road Trips. I think that since I have had pretty decent boards on cassette for about a dozen of the E72 shows( and considering the cost), I didn't bite. Not too smart. Anyone have ideas on how to get a Trunk at this juncture? I am quite certain that Mrs. Cat would not appreciate the expenditure any more today than in the past, but this is a bridge that would be crossed at that time.....

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    Better hatchet guilt than hatchet envy

    nyuk nyuk

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One more Saturday night at Winterland! Yes, we're back to home base for DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 42, the complete show from Winterland, San Francisco, 2/23/74. The one that featured the earliest amalgamation of what would soon become the Wall of Sound, the one that is so "loud, clear, and defined," it's been ripe for release for quite some time and we're glad it's finally getting its due.

First set or second, there are no wrong answers here. From the unique show opener of Chuck Berry's "Around And Around" and an incredible "Here Comes Sunshine" that would then disappear for 18 years, to a medley of WAKE OF THE FLOOD tracks - "Row Jimmy," "Weather Report Suite," and "Stella Blue" - cementing their status in the canon and an unstoppable hour through the classic 1973-1974 Dead that is “He’s Gone”>“Truckin’”>“Drums”>“The Other One”>“Eyes Of The World,” it's all exceptionally hot.

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 42: WINTERLAND, SAN FRANCISCO, 2/23/74 was recorded by Kidd Candelario and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. Grab a copy while you can.

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Sorry lads but I believe the complete tapes are not there.
Supposedly much was chopped up for Skull Fuck?
I think that’s why they did Ladies and Gentlemen: used best of what they had?
But!
A) I could be confused and thus completely wrong, and
B) we don’t know what other sources may exist?
Or do we? Someone out there surly knows more about this?

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...and still not sold out! I just finished listening to each show, so this is my first pass. Took a while. I gotta say, disc 20 is a stand out. That's the third disc of the second 1973 show in the box. Course you guys already know that. Dark Star>Stella Blue>Eyes>Weather Report Suite! Sweet is right! I listened to this disc three times over three morning's breakfast, and it will bear re-listening for years to come! Multiple breath-taking jams, one after another.

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Some got a shipping notice late last week. A lot of others are still waiting for one…..

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he has said in interviews that they have put out all they intend to on the April '71 FE shows.

That leaves a ton of great shows in March-April '71 for a '71 box.

I am just one show shy of hearing the whole St Louis box. Then I'm going back to the second of two '71 shows in that box and CRANKING IT.

Hey, gents, ain't Nitecat The Man?? Thanks to the tapers...

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But I just gotta say 4/22/77 is INCREDIBLE it's been awhile (years) since I listened to this let me add that I've never heard a SB recording until today man oh man does this show SMOKE!!!!!!

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Received. Time to listen to other Dead eras so my ears are relatively fresh for 1974 when the Dave's arrives.

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For going to '77 when '74 is in the limelight. I just discovered a SB recording of 4/22/77& man it sounds gorgeous.

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I don't put much stock in shipping notices...In the past I have received product before receiving a shipping notice and at times I waited two weeks after getting one

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Gotta love the dove.
Wissinoming going in head first. Love it.
Posting my tie-dyed Easter eggs avatar. Because I can.

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Ship of Fools. 15’ from the stage that night. Flying high. Felt like an Alice D, million dollars.

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Another great show, from a historic run of shows. Big Boss Man, Warf Rat , and Mama Tried, all appear on Skull & Roses from this show. Duane Allman sits in with the Dead. My favorite version of Good Lovin.

Good Lovin'

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And a first set Dark Star into Wharf Rat

Wharf Rat is on Skull n Roses

Way back in 2001
Phil n Friends played east of Seattle
In the parking lot before the show I had some electric juice
As I sat there, suddenly China Rider from 4 26 71 came on

Yowzah yowzah yowzah

No electric juice since then

Great show by PnF

I wonder if the fact that Duane Allman and the Beach Boys guested means that the full run is less likely to be released. Although I think maybe one of the tracks featuring Duane came out on an Allman Brothers compilation a while back.

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Drive by Truckers in a few days, same venue either day before or after is Jason Isbell and the 400 unit. Jason Isbell is with EmmyLou Harris and others. DBT with Mavis Staples and others.

Saw DBT so many times in a small clubs around here, that was when Jason was with them.

For me, also Widespread X3 and Dave Matthews 1 show coming up. Plus Primus this weekend.

May even get my country music bangor and clangor on with many artists heading this way. Trying to make up my mind on seeing Vince Gill. Probably not Brooks and Dunn or the Judds. Live music budget has to be worked out.

Waiting impatiently Dave. J/K no complaints here. Operations have made substantial upgrades in the last 2 years.

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Also in cue possiblities are :

America
Joe Satriani
Black Crowes
Kenny Chesney
Skynyrd
are possibilities

In less consideration
Dierks Bentley
Styx and REO
My Morning Jacket

Music seen booming here.

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That’s great you saw the Truckers when Isbell was in the band, quite a line up then with his wife on bass. I think they are a kick ass band, and I’m looking forward to their new record in June. As for Emmylou, I think she still has the greatest voice in her field, and I’d never pass on a chance to see her play.
I was scouring the upcoming shows today, and you’re right, a lot to choose from being summer touring season, but budgeting for it is another matter.
Ordered the “new” Fabulous Furry Freak Bros hardcover today, one of a series of four in the series. Those comix never get old!

Thinking of Beach Boys, every so often I go back over to the tube to watch an old clip of the Beach Boys backing Chicago on their song "Wishing You Were Here." It is such a great performance especially vocally. Think it is NYE 1974. Trying to remember when Dick Clark started his NYE specials.

FYI, the remastered Chicago first couple of releases are mu-nay.

Nappy! Thanks for wheelchair taper post/lync. Lots of interesting stuff there.

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Notice received. Now the wait!

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A year of 2 sounds, pre 8/4/79-post 8/4/79 the difference being the sound of the Tiger & YES Fall '79 is my favorite era AFTER Fall '72 speaking of Fall 72 check out 10/28/72 the only thing I can say is WOW!!!!!!

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On April 26 2022.
My own idea of the estimated arrival date - is just before Billy's Birthday. Any time after that, excluding Sunday, May 8th, *talk cute* to the USPS Inspectors.

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Auston Matthews is the first US born player to reach 60 goals in an NHL season! I’ve said this before, I grew up with this game, and he is one of the best I’ve ever seen.
Now, how about bringing that Stanley Cup back to Toronto, AM….

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Orchestra to play shows in Europe to celebrate the E72 tour this September. The band will have Alligator being played by Jeff Matheson. Anybody over across the pond planning on going to any of these shows? I'm sure they will be epic.
Jeff channels Jerry very well, can only imagine the sounds he will get out of Gator.

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Vguy - sorry about your boys. I told you last year that trading Alex Tuch was a horrible decision. At least now he can go golfing with some of his former teammates.

Mike - good luck to the Leafs. We all know the outcome, but I’ll back them. Other than Toronto I find almost all the playoff teams in the East unlikable.

Colorado is the team to beat. Nevertheless, I still want Canadaland to win a Cup. I’ll take the Oilers in the west and the Leafs in the east.

Good luck to some.

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Definitely worth seeing.. Jeff can shred. He can't quite sing like Jerry, but he can play. If/when I venture across the pond again, I would really like to see some of those venues.

As for hockey and sports in general.. yea, the ups and downs of winning and losing. It's only a matter of time until you are on the losing end of playoffs and championships...

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Love getting the shipping notice email but hate that it doesn’t move for a week. Wish when you buy the “early bird” subscription that you can upgrade the shipping. I’m okay with paying more knowing the USPS isn’t involved. Play dead!

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I’m not even going to bother checking tracking, it’ll just make me nuts, but has anybody’s Cds started moving? It would be nice to hear some good news……

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RIP Klaus Schulze.
Saw TD in 1978, at least I saw the laser show and the banks of synths. I expect there were people behind them.

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sorry to burst anybody's nitrous bubble, but I would rather play any DaP then listen to DSO, D & C, Wolfpack or any other GD cover band. Local band around here called Hyrider and they are all the same: marginal, terrible garage bands. Unimaginative, boring, and lame.
Now back to your regularly scheduled programming.

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Jack - You’re right, the Leafs have as much chance of winning it all as Herb Tarlek did getting Lonnie Anderson’s Jennifer character to go out with him, but dim hope is better than none. I think Tampa Bay is still the team to beat, with Florida and Colorado in the running.
I’ve received my shipping notice for DaP 42 a few days ago, but based on the “low octane”postal service in these parts, I’m thinking the first round of playoffs will be over by the time it arrives.

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I'd have gone to see DSO in pre covid times. See what they are like. I saw Live Dead 69 with Tom Constanten about 3 years ago, and Terrapin Truckin with Phil Lesh about 2014, I think. Obviously neither band could hold a candle to The Dead, but it was a night out with people who were into the Gratefuls, serenaded by a Grateful Dead type sound. I saw Jerry on stage at the LiveDead69 gig - his ghost, anyway. As soon as my brain registered it, he disappeared. All good harmless fun.

Sorry to read about Klaus Schulze. I may be wrong, but I think he only played on one Tangerine Dream album - the synth free first one "Electronic Meditation". Music of the Gods - it reminds me of Ummagumma a bit. Highly recommended if you haven't heard it and like pre Dark Side Pink Floyd. Klaus Schulze plays drums on it.

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I would also like to announce I am in the middle of a deep dive in May '77. Listening to every show during the month and am having a great time! Currently on 5/19 (Dick's Picks 29.)

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New Jerry release just announced, 1974, oh yeah.

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