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    One more Saturday night at Winterland! Yes, we're back to home base for DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 42, the complete show from Winterland, San Francisco, 2/23/74. The one that featured the earliest amalgamation of what would soon become the Wall of Sound, the one that is so "loud, clear, and defined," it's been ripe for release for quite some time and we're glad it's finally getting its due.

    First set or second, there are no wrong answers here. From the unique show opener of Chuck Berry's "Around And Around" and an incredible "Here Comes Sunshine" that would then disappear for 18 years, to a medley of WAKE OF THE FLOOD tracks - "Row Jimmy," "Weather Report Suite," and "Stella Blue" - cementing their status in the canon and an unstoppable hour through the classic 1973-1974 Dead that is “He’s Gone”>“Truckin’”>“Drums”>“The Other One”>“Eyes Of The World,” it's all exceptionally hot.

    Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 42: WINTERLAND, SAN FRANCISCO, 2/23/74 was recorded by Kidd Candelario and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. Grab a copy while you can.

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    billy the kiddd
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    My Doctor wrote a book.....

    Since we were just talking about famous people and now we are talking about literature I will combine the two subjects. My doctor wrote the book The Kite Runner, once he wrote the book he no longer needed to be my doctor. He was a great guy and a great doctor.

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    Letters - Barry Miles

    "The Letters of William S. Burroughs 1944-1959" is a great book. In fact, I prefer it his novels. Less messing about, if you know what I mean.
    And talking of Barry Miles - his "William Burroughs - A Life" is worth looking at, if you are interested in Burroughs. It seems a very truthful book - it doesn't always present Burroughs in the best light - which, considering what he did, isn't a bad thing.
    Denis Johnson is a more recent American writer who is worth reading. His collection of short stories, "Jesus' Son" is a good starting point, chronicling his life of addiction and petty crime in the late 60's, I think. He thankfully transcended that lifestyle, though, and the last book he wrote before dying in 2017- the beautiful "The Largesse of The Sea Maiden" is exceptional.
    Harry Crews is another hot one. " The Knock out Artist" about an ex boxer who retires and goes on to earn money by knocking himself out with a single punch to the face is a wild and windy ride.

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    This forum is triggering my CD and book buying....

    and that's not a complaint. Okay, I'll go for Carolyn Cassady's book and the 1926 Jack Black. So to this literature list I must add a few:

    The Big Con: The Story of the Confidence Man by David W. Mauer (inside look from 1940 on how hustlers of every stripe fleeced their marks, from the late 1800s to 1940)

    Lowlife: Lures and Snares of Old New York by Luc Sante (1991) More than you want to know about the underclass in NYC, from pimps and whores to rogue police to grog shop druggings/robbings. The goods.

    Both are meticulously documented nonfiction. And if you have the stomach for the very nastiest fiction, try

    Last Exit to Brooklyn by Hubert Selby Jr. (1957). Indescribable, the prose is tough as nails. Horrifying in parts, downright disgusting in others. Highly recommended....

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    We’ve got the beat

    As I said, I spent a little time on the (beat) mountain.
    As is often the case, On The Road was my gateway drug to the beats via the Dead! I’ve Read much of but not all Kerouac. And now have a bunch more “new” stuff I’ve not read yet. It’s been so many moons ago and my reading comprehension perhaps was not as good, so it might have been me, but a lot of Jacks writing can be tough. He unfortunately at times could really wallow in the mire. As the years passed, and the alcohol took hold, he wasn’t the same young enthusiastic Sal Paradise most know and love. But there are also so many fine writings! Just Gotta Poke Around!
    My favs above and beyond OTR are: Dharma Bums, the parts of Desolation Angels that involves the former, and a book of short Stories called Lonesome Traveler. Gary Snyder is awesome, but alas I’m not much of a poetry guy : (
    I have several bios, but have not read them all yet. Our boy McNally’s Desolate Angel is very good, Angel headed Hipster by Turner, Subterranean Kerouac by Amburn, The Awakener by Helen Weaver, Jacks Book by Gifford, and Memory Babe by Nicosia, which some consider THE JK book, but since it came to me late in life I have not read it yet. In fact so much stuff from and about Jack has come round in later years and unfortunately their just collecting dust since Ive been more inclined to read other things. I often get really deep into a topic, then move on. But hopefully some day I’ll get the beat bug again.
    There are some good “letters” books too that give more insight to the actual people behind the characters and are interesting snap shots of life in mid century America.
    Carolyn Cassady’s Off the Road is another excellent inside look, but from a much different perspective. along with Women of the Beat Generation by Knight.

    The Holy Goof is good, but I think I liked The Cassady Issue of the great Spit In the Ocean series the best!
    Mucho cool stuff in those Spit in the Ocean issues! The Fast Life of a Beat Hero I think is good? Cant remember but I have it so? The First Third is more about little Neal and the sometimes incredible, but often horrible, eye opening experiences of his youth than the Angel Headed Hipster he became. He always aspired to be a writer and having the big time writer friends he had, you could say things rubbed off on him. He also worked very hard on his writing, so it’s not as I say A book to judge by its author! Some of Jacks portraits of his own child hood are also some favorite JK writings. Again, interesting looks into sort of working class mid century American life.

    As much as I dig psychedelic Neal 2.0 and all his influence on the scene and his Herculean feats with the pranksters et el, I prefer early beat Neal, Dean Moriarty, I think of Dean Moriarty…

    It’s been so long etc, but I have read some Burroughs and Ginsberg etc, but I’ve never been a big poetry person, and Burroughs can be a bit too out there, but I loved reading a ton of Jack, and anything by or about Neal.
    OTR and more so Dharma Bums literally changed my life in my twenties! Must Reads imho.

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    Hearing 9/18/74 for the first time in a while

    Mighty tasty

    One of the first shows I ever heard on cassette back in the day

    I called my friend and said "more Dead!"

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    Oh...and another is...

    "The Beat Hotel: Ginsberg, Burroughs & Corso in Paris, 1957-1963" by Barry Miles...had a blast reading this ...have his Zappa bio in storage somewhere....damn books....

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    before Neal Cassidy, before…

    before Neal Cassidy, before Herbert Huncke, there was Jack Black who wrote "You Can't Win" published in 1926...his autobiography details his life as a petty criminal and dealing with "straight society"....

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    The First Third etc

    HF/Oro - that's good to know. I have read around "The First Third" in a way, without ever actually coming across the book itself. I have a copy of "The Collected Correspondence of Allen Ginsberg and Neal Cassady", here, that has letters in it between the two people from the 1940s-1960s. I will definitely dip into that again before the summer is done. And I read Carolyn Cassady's "Off The Road" when that came out some 30 years ago.

    The best holiday of my life was in 1990 when we went on a tour of the West Coast-my one and only visit to America. We only spent two days in San Francisco, and spent the time alternately doing what me and my girlfriend chose to do. Us having little in common. As San Francisco meant more to me than it did her, I had first shout - and off to City Lights book shop we went. Among others, I got a biography of Neal called "The Holy Goof", by someone I had never heard of at the time and have never heard of since, called William Plummer. Like the other books I have just mentioned, I have never read it since, but I thought it was great at the time.

    And when I got back home, there was a letter ( or maybe "Spiral Light", I forget) on my doorstep, telling me The Dead were playing Wembley that October. 1990 was like my 1960s.

  • #639
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    way deep

    Oro and HF - you are guys are so deep in the catalog. I'm amazed. Feeling out of the know for sure on works like the First Third. so yeah, way back in late high school it was On The Road, of course, that opened my mind. But out of that scene it was Gary Snyder (Dharma Bums, Japhy Ryder,) that ended up having the most profound affect. Still someone I turn to time and again. Riprap and Cold Mountain Poems is foundational (Migration of Birds!) and then there is the Smokey the Bear Sutra.

    Ginsberg also, of course.

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    I’m with HF

    The First Third is mos def better than one might be inclined to assume. “Don’t let the glasses fool ya” oh, wait, that’s Bromberg, ahem, aaaa, how bout, don’t judge a book by its author!

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One more Saturday night at Winterland! Yes, we're back to home base for DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 42, the complete show from Winterland, San Francisco, 2/23/74. The one that featured the earliest amalgamation of what would soon become the Wall of Sound, the one that is so "loud, clear, and defined," it's been ripe for release for quite some time and we're glad it's finally getting its due.

First set or second, there are no wrong answers here. From the unique show opener of Chuck Berry's "Around And Around" and an incredible "Here Comes Sunshine" that would then disappear for 18 years, to a medley of WAKE OF THE FLOOD tracks - "Row Jimmy," "Weather Report Suite," and "Stella Blue" - cementing their status in the canon and an unstoppable hour through the classic 1973-1974 Dead that is “He’s Gone”>“Truckin’”>“Drums”>“The Other One”>“Eyes Of The World,” it's all exceptionally hot.

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 42: WINTERLAND, SAN FRANCISCO, 2/23/74 was recorded by Kidd Candelario and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. Grab a copy while you can.

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Submitted by Oroborous on Mon, 04/25/2022 - 11:16

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Sorry lads but I believe the complete tapes are not there.
Supposedly much was chopped up for Skull Fuck?
I think that’s why they did Ladies and Gentlemen: used best of what they had?
But!
A) I could be confused and thus completely wrong, and
B) we don’t know what other sources may exist?
Or do we? Someone out there surly knows more about this?

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Submitted by nitecat on Mon, 04/25/2022 - 13:06

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...and still not sold out! I just finished listening to each show, so this is my first pass. Took a while. I gotta say, disc 20 is a stand out. That's the third disc of the second 1973 show in the box. Course you guys already know that. Dark Star>Stella Blue>Eyes>Weather Report Suite! Sweet is right! I listened to this disc three times over three morning's breakfast, and it will bear re-listening for years to come! Multiple breath-taking jams, one after another.

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Submitted by adedhed68 on Mon, 04/25/2022 - 13:13

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Some got a shipping notice late last week. A lot of others are still waiting for one…..

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Submitted by hendrixfreak on Mon, 04/25/2022 - 13:52

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he has said in interviews that they have put out all they intend to on the April '71 FE shows.

That leaves a ton of great shows in March-April '71 for a '71 box.

I am just one show shy of hearing the whole St Louis box. Then I'm going back to the second of two '71 shows in that box and CRANKING IT.

Hey, gents, ain't Nitecat The Man?? Thanks to the tapers...

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Submitted by wissinomingdeadhead on Mon, 04/25/2022 - 17:12

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But I just gotta say 4/22/77 is INCREDIBLE it's been awhile (years) since I listened to this let me add that I've never heard a SB recording until today man oh man does this show SMOKE!!!!!!

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Submitted by nitecat on Mon, 04/25/2022 - 18:02

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Received. Time to listen to other Dead eras so my ears are relatively fresh for 1974 when the Dave's arrives.

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Submitted by wissinomingdeadhead on Mon, 04/25/2022 - 18:26

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For going to '77 when '74 is in the limelight. I just discovered a SB recording of 4/22/77& man it sounds gorgeous.

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Submitted by nappyrags on Mon, 04/25/2022 - 19:48

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I don't put much stock in shipping notices...In the past I have received product before receiving a shipping notice and at times I waited two weeks after getting one

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Mon, 04/25/2022 - 20:21

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Gotta love the dove.
Wissinoming going in head first. Love it.
Posting my tie-dyed Easter eggs avatar. Because I can.

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Submitted by Strider 808808 on Mon, 04/25/2022 - 21:01

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Ship of Fools. 15’ from the stage that night. Flying high. Felt like an Alice D, million dollars.

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Submitted by billy the kiddd on Tue, 04/26/2022 - 10:54

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Another great show, from a historic run of shows. Big Boss Man, Warf Rat , and Mama Tried, all appear on Skull & Roses from this show. Duane Allman sits in with the Dead. My favorite version of Good Lovin.

Good Lovin'

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And a first set Dark Star into Wharf Rat

Wharf Rat is on Skull n Roses

Way back in 2001
Phil n Friends played east of Seattle
In the parking lot before the show I had some electric juice
As I sat there, suddenly China Rider from 4 26 71 came on

Yowzah yowzah yowzah

No electric juice since then

Great show by PnF

I wonder if the fact that Duane Allman and the Beach Boys guested means that the full run is less likely to be released. Although I think maybe one of the tracks featuring Duane came out on an Allman Brothers compilation a while back.

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Submitted by Gary Farseer on Tue, 04/26/2022 - 13:50

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Drive by Truckers in a few days, same venue either day before or after is Jason Isbell and the 400 unit. Jason Isbell is with EmmyLou Harris and others. DBT with Mavis Staples and others.

Saw DBT so many times in a small clubs around here, that was when Jason was with them.

For me, also Widespread X3 and Dave Matthews 1 show coming up. Plus Primus this weekend.

May even get my country music bangor and clangor on with many artists heading this way. Trying to make up my mind on seeing Vince Gill. Probably not Brooks and Dunn or the Judds. Live music budget has to be worked out.

Waiting impatiently Dave. J/K no complaints here. Operations have made substantial upgrades in the last 2 years.

G

Also in cue possiblities are :

America
Joe Satriani
Black Crowes
Kenny Chesney
Skynyrd
are possibilities

In less consideration
Dierks Bentley
Styx and REO
My Morning Jacket

Music seen booming here.

Revised and edited.

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Submitted by That Mike on Tue, 04/26/2022 - 14:49

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That’s great you saw the Truckers when Isbell was in the band, quite a line up then with his wife on bass. I think they are a kick ass band, and I’m looking forward to their new record in June. As for Emmylou, I think she still has the greatest voice in her field, and I’d never pass on a chance to see her play.
I was scouring the upcoming shows today, and you’re right, a lot to choose from being summer touring season, but budgeting for it is another matter.
Ordered the “new” Fabulous Furry Freak Bros hardcover today, one of a series of four in the series. Those comix never get old!

Thinking of Beach Boys, every so often I go back over to the tube to watch an old clip of the Beach Boys backing Chicago on their song "Wishing You Were Here." It is such a great performance especially vocally. Think it is NYE 1974. Trying to remember when Dick Clark started his NYE specials.

FYI, the remastered Chicago first couple of releases are mu-nay.

Nappy! Thanks for wheelchair taper post/lync. Lots of interesting stuff there.

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Submitted by adedhed68 on Tue, 04/26/2022 - 16:58

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Notice received. Now the wait!

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Submitted by wissinomingdeadhead on Wed, 04/27/2022 - 00:37

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A year of 2 sounds, pre 8/4/79-post 8/4/79 the difference being the sound of the Tiger & YES Fall '79 is my favorite era AFTER Fall '72 speaking of Fall 72 check out 10/28/72 the only thing I can say is WOW!!!!!!

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Submitted by Born Cross Eye… on Wed, 04/27/2022 - 03:31

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On April 26 2022.
My own idea of the estimated arrival date - is just before Billy's Birthday. Any time after that, excluding Sunday, May 8th, *talk cute* to the USPS Inspectors.

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Submitted by That Mike on Wed, 04/27/2022 - 03:35

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Auston Matthews is the first US born player to reach 60 goals in an NHL season! I’ve said this before, I grew up with this game, and he is one of the best I’ve ever seen.
Now, how about bringing that Stanley Cup back to Toronto, AM….

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Submitted by PT Barnum on Wed, 04/27/2022 - 06:31

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Orchestra to play shows in Europe to celebrate the E72 tour this September. The band will have Alligator being played by Jeff Matheson. Anybody over across the pond planning on going to any of these shows? I'm sure they will be epic.
Jeff channels Jerry very well, can only imagine the sounds he will get out of Gator.

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Submitted by Angry Jack Straw on Wed, 04/27/2022 - 06:35

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Vguy - sorry about your boys. I told you last year that trading Alex Tuch was a horrible decision. At least now he can go golfing with some of his former teammates.

Mike - good luck to the Leafs. We all know the outcome, but I’ll back them. Other than Toronto I find almost all the playoff teams in the East unlikable.

Colorado is the team to beat. Nevertheless, I still want Canadaland to win a Cup. I’ll take the Oilers in the west and the Leafs in the east.

Good luck to some.

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Submitted by JimInMD on Wed, 04/27/2022 - 06:41

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Definitely worth seeing.. Jeff can shred. He can't quite sing like Jerry, but he can play. If/when I venture across the pond again, I would really like to see some of those venues.

As for hockey and sports in general.. yea, the ups and downs of winning and losing. It's only a matter of time until you are on the losing end of playoffs and championships...

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Submitted by Douglas Otto on Wed, 04/27/2022 - 07:46

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Love getting the shipping notice email but hate that it doesn’t move for a week. Wish when you buy the “early bird” subscription that you can upgrade the shipping. I’m okay with paying more knowing the USPS isn’t involved. Play dead!

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Submitted by adedhed68 on Wed, 04/27/2022 - 08:43

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I’m not even going to bother checking tracking, it’ll just make me nuts, but has anybody’s Cds started moving? It would be nice to hear some good news……

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Submitted by Colin Gould on Wed, 04/27/2022 - 09:30

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RIP Klaus Schulze.
Saw TD in 1978, at least I saw the laser show and the banks of synths. I expect there were people behind them.

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Submitted by rasta5ziggy on Wed, 04/27/2022 - 09:42

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sorry to burst anybody's nitrous bubble, but I would rather play any DaP then listen to DSO, D & C, Wolfpack or any other GD cover band. Local band around here called Hyrider and they are all the same: marginal, terrible garage bands. Unimaginative, boring, and lame.
Now back to your regularly scheduled programming.

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Submitted by That Mike on Wed, 04/27/2022 - 10:07

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Jack - You’re right, the Leafs have as much chance of winning it all as Herb Tarlek did getting Lonnie Anderson’s Jennifer character to go out with him, but dim hope is better than none. I think Tampa Bay is still the team to beat, with Florida and Colorado in the running.
I’ve received my shipping notice for DaP 42 a few days ago, but based on the “low octane”postal service in these parts, I’m thinking the first round of playoffs will be over by the time it arrives.

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Submitted by daverock on Wed, 04/27/2022 - 10:50

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I'd have gone to see DSO in pre covid times. See what they are like. I saw Live Dead 69 with Tom Constanten about 3 years ago, and Terrapin Truckin with Phil Lesh about 2014, I think. Obviously neither band could hold a candle to The Dead, but it was a night out with people who were into the Gratefuls, serenaded by a Grateful Dead type sound. I saw Jerry on stage at the LiveDead69 gig - his ghost, anyway. As soon as my brain registered it, he disappeared. All good harmless fun.

Sorry to read about Klaus Schulze. I may be wrong, but I think he only played on one Tangerine Dream album - the synth free first one "Electronic Meditation". Music of the Gods - it reminds me of Ummagumma a bit. Highly recommended if you haven't heard it and like pre Dark Side Pink Floyd. Klaus Schulze plays drums on it.

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Submitted by stillwaters on Wed, 04/27/2022 - 11:14

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I would also like to announce I am in the middle of a deep dive in May '77. Listening to every show during the month and am having a great time! Currently on 5/19 (Dick's Picks 29.)

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Submitted by itsburnsy on Wed, 04/27/2022 - 11:25

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New Jerry release just announced, 1974, oh yeah.

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