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    You can listen to Grateful Dead records over and over again and never understand the attraction they have for certain people until you attend one of their concerts. Sometime during the Dead's usual five-hour set, it will all click: Jerry Garcia's Indian bead string of notes on the guitar, the ozone ooze of the vocal harmonies, the shifting, shuffling rhythm of bassist Phil Lesh and drummer Bill Kreutzmann, and the distant echo of the oldest of American folk music. - Columbia Flier

    "Certain people" will know that we're coming in hot with one that's got all these things and more, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 41: BALTIMORE CIVIC CENTER, BALTIMORE, MARYLAND, 5/26/77. Yes, there's still plenty of spectacular May '77 to go around. Nearly chosen for Dave's Picks Vol. 1, 5/26/77 delivers three-fold. There's one count for the energy - all the precision of the Spring tour conjuring up the raw power of the Fall tour that was to come. There's another for the setlist which featured beloved songs from WORKINGMAN'S DEAD and soon-to-be favorites from the freshly recorded TERRAPIN STATION. And a third for its element of surprise (or shall we say surprises) from an astonishingly peak 15-minute "Sugaree" to new delights ("Sunrise," "Passenger," "Jack-A-Roe') to a rare first-set finale of "Bertha" to the second set's "Terrapin>Estimated>Eyes," traveling leaps and bounds towards the improvisational journey that is a nearly 17-minute "Not Fade Away." 

    Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 41: BALTIMORE CIVIC CENTER, BALTIMORE, MARYLAND, 5/26/77 was recorded by Betty Cantor-Jackson and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. Grab a copy while you can.

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  • Dennis
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    I don’t remember not listening to music. Mom was the music person I guess in our family. She owned records, she sang in the house and every morning the local AM station would be playing the top 40. Top 40 back then 60-62 ish would be a real mix of music. You would go from Johnny Horton to The Platters to Frank Sinatra to Peter, Paul and Mary. Radio didn’t/wasn’t so pigeon-holed then. Though when I moved to Texas a few years back I was surprised at the number of top 40 (regional?) songs I never heard and never made the playlist in the NYC market.
    We were young when Mom got us record players for Christmas, I was maybe 7. For the youth, record players were wood boxes that you took the lid off and there be a turntable, the front had a 4 inch speakers, driven by maybe 1.6 watts that when turned to 11 you could hear in your bedroom!
    My first records were “kids” records, they were the size of a 45, but had only a small hole in the middle and you played them at 78. The only one I remember was Hi-Diddle-Dee-Dee from Pinocchio. All of these bit the dust when me and my brother threw them like Frisbees. Mom started getting up kid lps. Great songs, like on Top of Spaghetti and The Cat Came Back.
    Mom had old 78’s that I listened the shit of out until I was maybe 11. Had a good Al Jolson collection and a slew of pop hits from her day. Songs like The Coffee Song by Sinatra. Silver Threads Among the Gold (Crosby), Red Silk Stocking and Green Perfume (can’t remember), The Woody Woodpecker Song. It was a golden age!!! Records spinning away at 78 RPM with the constant hiss,,,,,, ahhh.
    When I turned 13 I got a REAL stereo for Christmas. TWO SEPARATE SPEAKERS!!! First two albums Mom gave were both live! Johnny Cash San Quintin and Ray Stevens Guitarzan – LIVE! First I bought Andy Williams greatest hits. I continued to buy, I like “greatest hits” albums because I generally knew most of the songs. Like Dylans greatest hits 1, the Peter, Paul and Mary one. I know I was a boring boy!
    First show, maybe the first live show was in 8th grade, the school took us to the local amphitheater and we saw the New Seekers (I like to teach the world to sing). First show I paid for was Andy Williams at the same venue.
    I was big into disco in the late 70’s, listened to the local “black” station out of NYC. WBLS (stereo in black),,,, night show hosted by Frankie Crocker. Opened his show with King Pleasure’s, Moody’s Mood for Love,,,, great cut!!!
    In 78 met my wife and we moved in together. She was a deadhead and more of a rock person. Learned a ton of new music from her.
    Now all these years later I have a collection that boost over 7,000 artist covering over 750,000 songs. All stuff I listen to, no. I really, really, really don’t like metal or punk. We won’t even talk about German metal! (my kid listened to that shit) ( I’m sorry was that judgemental?). I’m more like a Libarian,, I read all the books, but I keep them in order and make sure they’re complete and labled correctly. (I think that’s enough .) I have all my records (except for the yellow 78’s), I have all of Mom’s 78 (about 600 of them), I have about 20 feet of lps, about 16 banker boxes of cd’s. And yet my wife doesn’t believe the limited edition vinyl is a GREAT investment for our retirement! Oh what fools these mortals be.

    Sorry about the length, sorry if I’ve I covered this before, thanks Oro for the first show shout out, don’t know how you could remember what show I”VE been too  I have no real memories of first show,,,, it was all way to new to me.

    Extra sidebar,,, caught a tube vid of Billy and the Kids in Hawaii at Bill’s house. WOW, what a house, huh!!! Hard to believe any of the other guys have digs that nice!!!!

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    Vinyl LP Pricing

    I have about 150, maybe more, that I picked up as a kid from age 5 - 15. Bought a few recently and they all seem to produced on the 180 Gram vinyl, which is much heavier and sturdier than the flimsy stuff we used to get. That's a plus. The pricing seems comparable when inflation is considered. The inflation calculator I looked at places 1 dollar in 1980 at $3.44 today. The last LP I bought back then was Rush - Hold Your Fire. It has a $7.99 sticker on it. So the 5 LP Dave's Picks Vol. 1 that I pre-ordered would have cost $27.52 for each LP, for a total of $137.60. Dead.net only sold it for $99, so I suppose we're doing alright if the inflation calculator is correct.

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    Genesis 1973 - Days of the Underground

    The show I saw was the one that was recorded and released on a live album the following year. It had a dramatic start- Watcher of the Skies intro, and all you could see on the stage were Peter Gabriel's eyes, illuminated by florescent paint. Everything else was black. I remember thinking the gig had an Alice in Wonderland quality to it. It was a bit like the David Bowie show in a way- everyone sat rivetted watching the stage. It was my friends who really liked them - I tended more towards heavy rock, where everybody went nuts. Black Sabbath and Hawkwind were the ones for me. It was good - but not quite to my taste as much as the other bands I saw. I never saw Genesis again - although I carried on seeing Hawkwind up to 2019. God help me.

    Simonrob - I got a very strong sense in the early - mid 70's that I had arrived just as the party was ending. Which proved to be the case, unfortunately. Most of the bands I liked had released their best records by 1973. In fact, I think they all had.
    Although I really liked the punk records and gigs from summer 1976-1977, I really didn't like the emerging punk culture - everybody walking around with cropped hair, spitting at bands, looking for a fight with anyone who didn't conform to the new dictat. Bands that copied The Ramones - all a bit rubbish by the end of 1977.
    What I really liked - although I didn't recognise it at the time - was rock n' roll. It was there, hidden in plain site in the music of both the heavy rock bands of the early 70s and the punk ones from 1976-77.

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    Quiet music

    Anyone got any suggestions for quiet early morning music? Gorecki's 3rd, Labradford- Fixed Content, Mark Hollis -ST, Larmousse, that sort of thing. Stuff that won't wake anyone else up 🙂. I'm one of those appalling larks, up at 4.30, I love the early day.

    Thanks.

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    The first band I ever saw…

    The first band I ever saw were Genesis at our local venue for 2nd string artists in autumn/fall ( take your pick 😀) 1972. I remember that I didn't much care for the music, still don't, and that the singer dressd up. I was 13 and these were warm up gigs for the next night at the Lyceum I believe, about 40 miles west of here. Alice Cooper, Bowie, Roxy Music, Stones, Zeppelin etc were much more my thing then. I met a friend in 1974 (he sold me my first acid on my 15th birthday) who turned me on to the Dead and I reciprocated by getting him into my stuff. Europe 72 was my first Dead album.

  • simonrob
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    So long ago.

    The first song that made a big impression on me was "Apache" by The Shadows in 1960 when I was 7. After that it was the Beatles in 1962. I guess things really got serious around 1969 when the San Francisco sound became readily accessible in record shops and on the radio thanks to Radio Luxemburg (208m medium wave). BBC radio got in on the act with the John Peel show. Unfortunately by the mid 70s it was as good as finished with few new bands of any note coming to the fore. Disco, punk, new romantics etc. were never interesting to me and my circle of friends and British progressive music became so self-indulgent as to be virtually unlistenable. Of course there were still points of light in the darkness but the golden age of music had sadly passed into history.

    PS: First time I saw Genesis was at the Reading Festival in 1972.

  • KeithFan2112
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    You saw Genesis in '73? I was 9 when Abacab came out, and then came the Phil Collins tidal wave. I only ever heard two songs on FM radio from Gabriel Genesis in those days: Watcher of the Skies and Lamb Lies Down. In my early 20s I began buying up the Genesis back catalogue, as an extention of my taste for prog rock. I thought Supper's Ready was magnificent, and still play it regularly.

    I've seen a lot of youtube footage from '71 - '73. There's a great show from the Rainbow. That must have been a transcending show. And to see Gabriel's on-stage persona in his prime. Wow wow wow wow wow.

    Would love to hear about that experience. I may go see Steve Hackett - he's going on tour to play Seconds Out. I may see if that fits into my schedule.

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    Alright Manchester - lets go!

    My first gigs were when I was 15, in 1972. They were T.Rex in the summer - at which there was a riot of teenage girls who temporarily stopped the show. Then David Bowie in the December. This was at a venue called "The Hardrock", and it featured what they referred to as "festival seating". This meant everyone sat on the concrete floor in as close a proximity to the lotus position as they could manage. Everyone stayed down, too. Older people at this one than T.Rex.

    1973 things gathered pace - I saw Hawkwind, Black Sabbath, Genesis, Uriah Heep and The Rolling Stones.

    Records were really important too, of course- and going to record shops. Which could account for why I still like vinyl today over other formats.
    And television-I never saw Alice Cooper live - but I saw a film of them on the Old Grey Whistle Test, and in summer 1972 he had the big hit - "School's Out"
    And the music press-the N.M.E being the fount of all knowledge. Iggy and the Stooges didn't have a record out in 1972, and they only played one gig in England - in London, which I didn't go to. But it was well written up and photographed, so that it assumed mythic proportions. I snapped up their first album from the bargain bins - and "Raw Power" the day it came out in 1973. When Iggy Pop finally came to the these shores, in 1977, it was like a visit from the Messiah. Unfortunately, The Stooges were no more- David Bowie played keyboards, and people in the audience flocked to his side of the stage to watch him rather than the Ig.
    But those years 1972 - 1973, when I was 15-16, were magical times.

  • Vguy72
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    The new Red Hot Chili Peppers record is fun....

    ....as you were.
    I discovered music when I was 12.
    The year was 1980. Ergo, my influences. Started with The Beatles.
    Then new wave and heavy metal.
    Used to make fun of Duran Duran back then. High school cliq shit.
    Now, I realize they kick ass.
    Headbangers Ball anyone? MTv Gen here.
    Music is indeed the best Mr. Ones.
    Edit. The Scorpions are doing a residency here. They also put out a record recently. It's pretty good.

  • LedDed
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    First, it's the drummers...

    All Spinal Tap kidding aside, the drummers are always the first to go. Keith Moon. John Bonham. Ginger did outlast Jack, but not by much. Of late, Taylor Hawkins... Charlie was preceded by Brian Jones but that was lifetimes ago. Joey Kramer has bowed out of the upcoming Aerosmith Vegas residency, and Peter Criss could never play 90 minutes with KISS again. Let us not forget Neil Peart, Nick Menza... the list is endless. Lars won't be able to play like he does now in 20 years - maybe ten. Metallica will reinvent themselves.

    I am excited to catch the D&C shows again as Summer tour arrives. Without Billy. Will he ever return? Does it matter? Not to discount him - I love the man, and to me the best and tightest the band ever was was when he singularly owned the drum chair. But the show must go on.

    I love Dead & Co. Yes the tempos are leaden, but my god Wolf Bros. makes D&C sound like Ministry on methamphetamine. Someone tell Bob to stop dumping a bottle of Log Cabin over his fretboard before taking the stage. John Mayer, Oteil and Chimenti are so goddamn good. Bobby hangs his hat on them and it all meshes beautifully. Last summer at Red Rocks, Jay Lane ably took up for Kreutzmann and you could hardly tell, except there wasn't any coke on the side cymbal (heh-heh).

    The vibe at D&C shows is so goddamn good... all across the country. I have had some of the best times in the parking lots, Shakedown Street and in the venues with like minded brothers and sisters who carry the spirit of the Dead onward.

    I had to stick up for them. Be well everyone.

    \m/

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You can listen to Grateful Dead records over and over again and never understand the attraction they have for certain people until you attend one of their concerts. Sometime during the Dead's usual five-hour set, it will all click: Jerry Garcia's Indian bead string of notes on the guitar, the ozone ooze of the vocal harmonies, the shifting, shuffling rhythm of bassist Phil Lesh and drummer Bill Kreutzmann, and the distant echo of the oldest of American folk music. - Columbia Flier

"Certain people" will know that we're coming in hot with one that's got all these things and more, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 41: BALTIMORE CIVIC CENTER, BALTIMORE, MARYLAND, 5/26/77. Yes, there's still plenty of spectacular May '77 to go around. Nearly chosen for Dave's Picks Vol. 1, 5/26/77 delivers three-fold. There's one count for the energy - all the precision of the Spring tour conjuring up the raw power of the Fall tour that was to come. There's another for the setlist which featured beloved songs from WORKINGMAN'S DEAD and soon-to-be favorites from the freshly recorded TERRAPIN STATION. And a third for its element of surprise (or shall we say surprises) from an astonishingly peak 15-minute "Sugaree" to new delights ("Sunrise," "Passenger," "Jack-A-Roe') to a rare first-set finale of "Bertha" to the second set's "Terrapin>Estimated>Eyes," traveling leaps and bounds towards the improvisational journey that is a nearly 17-minute "Not Fade Away." 

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 41: BALTIMORE CIVIC CENTER, BALTIMORE, MARYLAND, 5/26/77 was recorded by Betty Cantor-Jackson and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. Grab a copy while you can.

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This a a 2-cd set of Hollywood Bowl 9/22/72
Dark Side-Disc1
Careful, Echoes, Saucerful, Set The Controls-Disc 2.
I’ll have to track this down, looks good.
Listening to Billy Cobham Live Ayajala ‘78
The Magic Band tour Chicago 3/4/78.
Getting ready to cue up Dave’s 21-Boston Garden 4/2/73…getting ready in advance of ‘74 show, coming soon(I hope).

Music is the Best!!

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I really wanted to go this show but...
1) I was living off the road in between San Luis Obispo & Morro Bay working for the Cal Forestry
2) I was a bit put off by the "commercial success" that allowed the band to play the Bowl (stupid, I know)...I had seen
the previous two tours, Atom Heart Mother & Echoes at the much smaller Santa Monica Civic Auditorium
3) Because of work I had to make a decision of seeing the PF gig or seeing GD do two nights at
the Hollywood Palladium two weeks prior to the PF Bowl gig...a no brainer...

Since you mention seeing them on the AHM and Meddle tours, and thus being quite familiar with Floyd before they hit that mainstream success with DSOTM, I wonder if you recall what your initial impressions of DSOTM were. Gilmour in Classic Albums famously says he wishes he had the experience of being a music fan in 1973 hearing the album for the first time, since they had played most of the album for a year before it came out, then recording and re-recording them, then mixing, he feels he missed out. Especially interested in your take (and anyone else of that awesome era who remembers Floyd pre-DSOTM) on that evolution following Saucerful, AHM, Meddle, and Obscured.

I have a decent collection of Floyd liberated boots from my days downloading from dimeadozen and Trader's Den, etc., pretty sure Hollywood Bowl was in there. I tried to get as many versions of Echoes as I could find. Loved that they brought it back for Wish You Were Here tour, plus Raving and Drooling and You Gotta Be Crazy, the pre-Animals Sheep and Dogs.

I didn't see Pink Floyd until 1975, when they played a large outdoor festival at Knebworth. But I started buying their
albums in 1972. The first one I got was the budget compilation " Relics" followed by "Meddle" and then "Umagumma". I loved these albums at the time, and they sat alongside albums of what has since become known as "space rock" - Hawkwind, Gong, Faust - the amazing Wolf City" by Amon Duul 2.

My brother got Dark Side of the Moon almost as soon as it was available, and.....it was clearly a great album, but it didn't actually have the qualities I liked most about their earlier albums. It seemed like they had gone mainstream, in a way. Before Dark Side, they were very much a "head" band, and were seen, as I remember it, being quite avant- garde. Great spaced out epics like "Saucerful of Secrets" "Set The Controls For The Heart of The Sun" and Echoes". With Dark Side they seemed to become more of a straights band, singing about the grimness of modern life.

They were nowhere near as much fun live as Hawkwind in the mid 70's. I can remember seeing Floyd live in 1977, in a huge air hangar - this was shortly after "Animals" had come out. Everybody was squatting awkwardly on the concrete for hours on end, and when the Floyd finally fired up, someone stood up. The bloke squatting next to me angrily shouted at them to sit down-and then turned to me and said "The Floyd deserve to be listened to." This was why punk happened.

That's sort of what I was thinking would be a fairly typical response to what does seem to be a much more mainstream direction. Which is also why Echoes being the direct antecedent to Dark Side is so interesting, since one is an extremely exploratory song, the other an album of musical and lyrical coherence, but still retains aspects of Echoes. Also, quite funny how a lot of Floyd fans in the decades since are largely fans of DSOTM-The Wall, maybe even Division Bell, and quite a lot seem to passionately hate the more adventurous stuff. But then, maybe not so funny at all, since Deadhead camps exist where the Era Wars are real and ugly.

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My favorite band up until I attended my first Dead show.

Animals is my favorite album but the first CD I ever bought was Saucerful of Secrets in 1987.

Saw the trio in 87 and twice in 94, second night was complete DSOTM for Set2, same setlist as on the Pulse video.
Saw Waters 4 times, 2007,10,12,17.

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First, an apology for my addled memories...the choice between going to the Hollywood Bowl for PF or the Hollywood Palladium two weeks earlier for the GD was based purely on the fact that I'd rather see GD...DSOTM wasn't even released until 6 months or so after the Bowl gig... touring with unheard music was pretty ballsy...the Mother Heart Atom show was great with a small orchestra and choir accompanying the band...it started with "Astronomy Domine" and it just got crazier then that...during the floating wisps intro to "Careful With That Ax Eugene" a guy sitting in the orchestra pit, stood up with his hands over his ears yelling "STOP"...his friends tried to calm him but it didn't seem to help...Waters walked over to the edge of the stage, kneeled down and talked to the guy who finally calmed down enough to be escorted out by one of his friends to the lobby...crazy....I have a pretty decent for the time bootleg of this show and you can hear a disturbance but it's not clear enough to know what's going on...2nd set was "Atom heart Mother" with the "Interstellar Overdrive" for the encore...we went home very happy....for "Meddle" my memories aren't quite there...I remember "One Of These Days" as played but set lists I've seen don't show it...The ones I've seen only list one set but that can't be right...I do remember that as we waited in line it hailed on us which was pretty funny....earlier in the year I had taken a pretty nasty fall and broke my left arm and I had to be off from work for three weeks before I could go back to light duty...I went home to LA and because of being ther with my arm in a cast I saw The Stones at The Long Beach Arena & Pigpen's last show at The Hollywood Bowl...also at that time was when my picture was taken with Muddy Waters in the lobby of The Ash Grove as we were both there to see Johnny Shines play...'72 was a good year, broken arm and all!

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Alvarhanso - in some respects, the era of Pink Floyd leading up to Dark Side seems to have gained currency in recent years. The Early Years 1965-1972 box set is a treasure trove. And those gigs Nick Mason's Saucerful of Secrets played a few years ago, focussing on those years, were brilliant-to me, anyway. A cover band for sure, but one with credibility and fire power. They opened with Interstellar Overdrive and Astronomy Domine. Top that.

To me, Pink Floyd had three eras. First the Syd Barrett one, swiftly followed by the experimental phase, when Rick Wright was more influential. Rick Wright was also hugely important in developing their sound when Syd was at the helm - a very underrated musician. Then the Dark Side and beyond years, which seemed to be dominated more by Dave Gilmour and Roger Waters.

Nappy - that gig where they played Careful With That Axe Eugene sounds good. They did do a few well known soundtracks for films-but that experimental phase always struck me as something that would have gone well with horror films. Something by Dario Argento, perhaps.

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Alvarhanso-sorry to come back so quickly-but that phrase "era wars" always puzzles me a bit. I don't think there is a single band or artist I have liked where I have liked all their work. Most, if not all, of the ones I liked in the early 70's left me a bit cold as the decade progressed. A random sample - The Stones, David Bowie, Black Sabbath, Deep Purple, Hawkwind - yes, it is everyone! - personnel changed, style, approach, inspiration...they all seemed to follow a similar trajectory-rise, peak, decline. And maybe repeat the pattern. I never saw myself as a long term "fan" of any band, who needed to like everything they did. I have also never felt the slightest animosity to anyone who sees things differently-or who likes a different era of a specific band to me though. I am certainly not at war with anyone!
A lot of bands I have liked for decades - but there is a massive difference in quality - to me anyway- in the music they produced during that time.

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Though it does get ugly around here from time to time, mainly third and fourth Dave's of the year announcements and box sets.

But glad to hear all the excellent tales of Pink Floyd earlier years. I dig that stuff a lot, and love that box set. Would have loved seeing them back then. Though I could totally understand somebody freaking out during Careful With That Axe.

Apologies for misreading. Pink Floyd also seemed to be the main band that people in England got into when they started smoking dope in the early 70s. They were so big by 1977, that John Lydon-nee Rotten, in one of his attempts to upset the masses, wore a Pink Floyd tee shirt with "I hate" scrawled on before the bands name. Nick Mason put a replica of this tee shirt on display at the Pink Floyd exhibition in London a few years ago.

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So last week Sis tells me she saw a Dead show at Mammoth Gardens 4/24/70. Now she sent info about "another good show she saw", the Denver Pop Festival including 6/29/69 where she saw the final performance of The Jimmy Hendrix Experience. The festival was largely overshadowed by Woodstock two months later but was a Barry Fey three day gig for $15 with great lineups and setlists. Only four years removed from her "generation" but I had no idea Denver's scene was that good back then. Going to have to get some stories from her.
Cheers!
Edit: Listened to the aud. recording she sent with it. Interesting hour or so with the last song missing (Voodoo Child/Slight Return). Not Jimi's best, but he was blazing. Some bad stories about the teargas, etc. there at Mile High. Wasn't long after that a similar incident at a Red Rocks show with Jethro Tull got rock shows banned from that venue for many years. Times were tougher for hippies before I started going to shows, but I guess it happened to us as well when the scene just got too big later.

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There are NO WARS!!!!!!
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Amen to that. Always a worry when people feel the need to be at war with others who have different beliefs or ideas. I wouldn't want to be part of a society where everyone agrees with each other, and tries to shut down debates that question the status quo.

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In the old days, when you paid to have something done, you were rewarded by getting it ON release date! Today was listed as release date! Not only did I NOT receive my new CD, it appears that you haven't even bothered to ship it yet! This total lack of concern for your long term supporters, is soon going to bite you in the A$$!

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Starting this morning with some of Garcia's finest (LA Baker) and disc 3 of this gem! The band just kicked into Eyes and I must say, today is gonna be a good day!

Rock on, gang

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