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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

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June 28, 2020 - 9:31pm

#6671

DeadVikes

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Otis/Oroborous

Good to see you back in the loop. Hope all is well. New system is always exciting.
I am willing to give Dave's 31 another try. Haven't listened to it since last year.

Took out Good old Dave's 25, the BINGHAMTON NY 77 show. Some of these shows keep getting better with each listen.
Oroborous, you are a wild man. What a ride!

Be well folks. I have heard rumblings in other pages about big announcements coming. Don't know about that but we do know Dave's 35 will be announced in July. Maybe they will give Oroborous an 85 pick?
June 28, 2020 - 9:27pm

#6672

Vguy72

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June 29, 2007

6.28.85 Hershey Park....

....another one of my first tapes. Bird Song-> Comes A Time -> Deal. A rare Garcia trifecta to end the first. Music Never Stopped-> Tom Thumbs to open the second. How do you guys keep bringing up my first loves? And why does this band keep following me?
Here's kind of a story. I tripped balls listening to this tape in 1989. That's all I got.
June 28, 2020 - 7:19pm

#6673

wilfredtjones

Joined:
June 4, 2007

Hershey

You know it's on Dave's radar as he has played some of it on 30 Days in past years. Good show and one of my first tapes. Keep the stories coming! :-)
June 28, 2020 - 5:16pm

#6674

Oroborous

Joined:
June 19, 2007

6/28/85

So after basically staying up for 2 days at SPAC, we finally pack it up and hit the road the next day. I believe it was a rainy, gloomy day most of the day. But that didn’t stop our idiot patrol from basically racIng at high speed through the fine but conservative state of Pennsytuckey, where they were one of the last to let go of the 55 mph laws, and back then there usually wasn’t much tolerance. So 2 cars of totally raging nutknicks, with probably enough cargo to keep us detained for decades, thought it’d be a good idea to race at speeds up to 90!, Idiots!.....yes, one car had a radar detector, but in those days smart cops would wait for some nut traveling high speed and click it on when they had ya dead nuts.
Luckily, all was well and it was one more “miracle” as we earnestly pursued our quest for “too much of everything is just enough”, aaaa, never considered back then maybe Bob was being sarcastic? Lol
So we roll on into Chocolate town late and all beat up. I’m guessing we grabbed some kind of drive through, but not sure and as we were hardcore vegetarian then, perhaps we thought we’d grab something there? It’s all such a blur, I do recall the lot we were in had no or little Shakedown action going on. That still wasn’t in full flight anyway, and don’t recall much there, so maybe we drank our supper? I know I scored some Carlsberg Elephant beer, and believe I may have finished it, though that is a tall order even under good conditions so perhaps not. I’m sure I put in dent in it at least! So, that and the last of one z of veggies, though the tricky part was it was mostly just powder and scraps and so no normal produce to properly gage etc, which would turn out to be a tactical error...
So it’s late, we’re tired, but tweaked, perhaps no dinner, and of course it’s horrible out. Dark, rainy, and cold is usually not how you want to do your Dead. Eventually we get in perfect time, slip right in front of the SB and try to make the best of the situation. Well I had a shirt, a black baseball jacket, and the electric Buffalo Hyde, but even still it was damp and cold at first. Eventually, when things started to take hold and we started boogieing, we began to warm up a bit.
Meanwhile, the set list is awesome, but the conditions, which necessitated all the stage and PA speakers being covered in plastic (there was no stage lid) thereby severely effecting the audio. It’s was such a weird show that way, loved the little “stadium” and the nice audiophile stereo set up, with surrounds, great set list, mostly good playing, yes JGs vocals are a little ruff in the first set, but you have to cut some slack as it was terrible, I mean depending on the wind/rain they were getting rained on playing electrical instruments! Weird indeed, but like so many times in adverse conditions our heroes seemed to rise to the challenge. Thus the playing was perhaps more relaxed, steady and together and not forced like the previous night. Really, besides JGs vocal issues in the first, its a top notch show!
The second set really starts to take it higher with stellar versions of Music Never Stopped, Terrapin, Miracle and one of the best Dews I’ve ever seen! I think I saw about 14 or 15 Dews and when I think about Dews I’ve seen, this one is the one I always think of first! Rocking Stones/NFA with a spirited Day Job. I liked Day Job, but by now it was getting a tad old, and was a disappointment for this show considering how high it was at that point. A She Belongs or Baby Blue would of been a perfect Cherry on top, but perhaps that’s being greedy?
Now since the weather was such a factor, we must discuss that and how it influenced this show. The second set starts out with their “signing in the rain” as Bob says, and it’s a good’n! Next they slowly slid into an unusual sounding Tom Thumbs which I had never heard yet, and wasn’t even sure at first what it was, but hey, it was Phil so that’s all I needed to know! Good but perhaps truncated Estimated, followed by an awesome Terrapin. So as the set started to progress, so did the weather until (I think?) around Estimated it really started to clear up and they started pulling the plastic tarps down. It was almost like you could immediately hear it get better after each one was removed. Eventually by about Terrapin, they tarps we’re gone, the moon and stars were out, and Healy started increasing the volume and tweaking the mix. I remember we were goading him to turn it up, and man eventually he sure did!
As the night wore on it began to warm up a bit too. But as you’ve heard this scenario, or been there yourself, many times I didn’t feel quite high enough so what the hell, one more time with the powder veggie crumbles just before drums......hee-hee....you know, “I’m not feeling it?” and then...Dooah!
So the problem with those baseball jackets is they don’t really breath and the electric Buffalo Hyde was thick plastic. We didn’t have all the nice technical outer gear we have now, or at least WE didn’t. I could barely afford the free plastic one from the old mans work.
Well a perfect storm mounted; little or no food, Elephants, veggies etc, no sleep, excess everything and underlying exhaustion, with me starting to overheat due to the above and dancing with that plastic shell on. Things were going unbelievable well, and partly influenced by the very recent passing of my Grandfather, during Dew, things peaked musically, the sound, the night, the stars, emotionally etc etc until I had one of the most powerful musical/emotional/psychedelic peak experiences of my life. Perhaps my all time GD moment, it was that powerful. But what goes up must come down and just like that the radiator blew and that last handful of shroom dust fully kicked in and somewhere in Throwing Stones, right during ashes, ashes all fall down, well.....I say i didn’t really fall down, it was more like an immediate realization that if I don’t sit down rapidly, I’m going down! LOL, so one way or another, depending on who you believe, I end up down in the soft, cool mud until near the end of the song, but I swear just as I tried to get up I knew it wasn’t going to happen, so right on que again I go back down. My friends to this day always bring up my perfectly coreographed “Dance moves” above all else that happened on this tour..35 years later and it’s still “ashes, ashes, Pedro falls down” !
That would of all been well and good except things were very strange and weren’t wearing off, and I was barely functioning. I never would of found the car etc If not for my homies. Honestly all I remember is them pulling into a Wendy’s or something, but I just sat in the car with my face literally stuck to the window and crackled! Zzzzttttt. I really thought I had finally fried some essential circuits and thought this time I really did it. At some point I snapped out enough to find some kids in another car staring at me with a look of concern if not fear. Luckily, the boys finished up and came out and got us outta there. Somewhere near the state line we finally grabbed a motel as we all had had more than enough rain and adversity. Plus the next day was off and the drive short. I remember they propped me up in bed and I just sat and crackled and worried. Eventually I slept and though I felt better the next day, I didn’t feel normal and don’t recall much except when we got to Merriweather and found a good spot just over the creek, right next to the path, in some trees, on the way to the big parking lots to the right of the venue. But now it was nice and I was feeling more normal so not so freaked out. I also remember going to a nearby sorta plaza with an upscale liquor store where I scored my first sixer of EKU 28 ever which was awesome!
So now we’ve moved beyond the insanity of TOGA, the adversity and majesty of Hershey, and ready for perhaps the best overall show of the tour on 6/30/85....

EDIT: Otis, congrats on the stereo. All that matters is if your happy with it. After all the specs and hyperbole etc, no matter how big, small, expensive etc, in the end, that’s all that counts!
June 28, 2020 - 4:14pm

#6675

Thats_Otis

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@ Bob T and Pick for Monday

Nice rec for the TDIGDH 6/28/76 show! I'd never heard that one before, and it is pretty sweet. The "Happiness is Drumming" is certainly a highlight!

I have been out of the loop for a bit - trying to deal with some personal stuff on my end, and I just kind of lost track of things around these parts. I hope to be able to participate more going forward.

To that end, how about a pick for tomorrow, Monday 6/29? I am thinking Dave's 31 - 12/3/79 Uptown. I feel like this pick got a short shrift on the DaP page, but I remember being very happy with it, though I haven't given it a proper listen since it first came out. What do you all think?

One positive thing that I have accomplished since I've been away has been the set up of my first component stereo system. I don't know if it compares to all of your "big boy" systems, but it certainly feels BIG in my little row home! Looking forward to playing it LOUD tomorrow when the wife goes to work.

Peace
June 28, 2020 - 11:41am

#6676

Oroborous

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June 19, 2007

Voodoo senile, slight return. 6/27/85, and why 85 Dead is like

Bode Miller...

First, GOGD, I did not mean to single you out, over generalizations, which become stereotypes, which become truth etc, really bum me out. So it was more of a trigger to that, not you personally. I know you were just repeating this line.
Actually, as I’ve dug in deeper, there are probably a significant number of shows where he often doesn’t sound so good, but to over generalize that “his voice was shot”, as in never more, to me, imho, that completely devalues and discounts all the amazing, great sounding stuff he was still able to do. 87,88,89,90,91anyone? Micro view versus macro perhaps?

SECOND: I must humbly recant my tale of dancin in the rain. As we were diligently experiencing TOGA last night. Too things became apparent. First, perhaps JG was a tad “caffeinated” at the start of both sets. Listening close on a real system, (not the big boy, but the living room system which ain’t no slouch!), he seems a tad to fast and/or their not fully entrained. One could argue not fully so until Women Are?...so probably something to do with him totally skipping the Key Rain Storm, and Jailhouse versus, of Bertha, lol.
Thus, while I wasn’t deceitful, I was not accurate. Sure enough, when Holmes and Watson ripped a spleef and fired up Bertha from SPAC 6/24/84, and bingo, ding, ding, ding, ding! Right venue, wrong year! 😂 Ooops, my apologies to the dear reader...but hey, it’s a fun interesting new tid bit, and it did rain, I think, lol.
While doing this research I was listening just on the iPad and interestingly he doesn’t sound as bad? Also, I’ve been going with the HS matrixes, especially shows where I want to hear those crowd big moments. Generally they’ve been pretty good, but researching, I used a CM transfer and man, definitely a big difference. Perhaps number one being the speed/time of the Miller seemed better and more natural?
Subjective I know, just that it’s interesting how every variable can effect perceptions.
6/27/85: so this beast is still as much of a rocket sled ride as I’ve thought, but it’s perhaps a tad more unpolished then I would of said in the past. But that’s being picky, and you know I prefer danger dead to safe, so as at this moment, Hell in a bucket is scorching, I stick by this show for that, the cool set list, and the fact that eventually, say around Women Are on out, that part of the show stands with its lofty summer 85 neighbors. Probably have to give 6/24& perhaps 6/25? a slight advantage overall, but man I haven’t been to many shows that had the vibe, fun, and overall madness of this puppy.

So why is 85 Dead like Bode Miller? He often was criticized for his erratic style, or lack thereof, his nonconformity, often disregard for the rules, including parting then basically going 80 MPH down an insane pitch, that was usually hosed down to make it more icy, and thus faster! So just like this era of Dead, sometimes he’d DQ, sometimes he’d slack off, sometimes it was ugly, but when he brought it, that mofo brought it!! and when he was able to be one with the force, it was fucking breathtaking! Scary, but breathtaking. No matter what, if he was racing there was an energy, an excitement, that larger than life vibe......that, to me, is 85 Dead.
FINALLY: Ladies and Germs, May I present the Electric Buffalo Hyde! as christened by my degenerate cohort due to my resemblance of the great beast of the prairies back in the day, and this baby used to be so bright people would ask if there were batteries. But Alas, like youth itself it’s faded dramatically, and is old and bartered. It definitely gave it’s all to R&R. So many Dead shows, festivals, camping, parties, you name it! Also, it will be a part of an unfortunate situation at the next night, where I lost my shit in Hershey! So until then....
June 28, 2020 - 11:14am

#6677

bob t

Joined:
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only time played anniversary show 6/28/76 Chicago Auditorium

If you are too busy to listen to whole show, listen to Happiness is Drumming from set II, if you have never heard or listened to listen you will be pleasantly surprised!!! There is a Charlie Miller soundboard on Internet Archive!!!! bob t
June 27, 2020 - 4:07pm

#6678

The Good Ole G…

Joined:
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Good Times Great Oldies

Sounds like the ole SPAC '85 show will get some play today.

Always a fun revisit. Vguy & Keithfan that was you guys?! That's funny.

I guess I always thought this was an indoor show because of the balcony stuff and didn't know about the rain storm.

Tell us more.

And just for the record if I happen to say Jerry's voice is shot, what I mean to say is I love Jerry's voice, even though it's a little shot here. ;)

I agree, it always sounds great to me.

Enjoy party people!
June 27, 2020 - 11:21am

#6679

Oroborous

Joined:
June 19, 2007

Not a drop

We were out on the lawn so actually there were many drops, I mean it was already raining hard, and right when he sang that line, biblical!, but it just added to the madness and was one of my favorite concert/rain moments ever! I believe that’s right when folks crashed security on those balcony ramp ways and turned it into a free for all? Yeah, that was the shit, such energy all around, but that rain just took it to another level. Luckily I had my electric buffalo Hyde on! .....it was a psychedelic neon yellow long rain coat with
BS CORP
WORK SAFELY (from pops work) printed on back, and a Dancin skeleton sticker underneath that I added. Still have it! I should take a pic and post...fond it moving last year.
June 27, 2020 - 10:48am

#6680

Oroborous

Joined:
June 19, 2007

Summer 85, and why I’m not prepared for class

Deadheadbrewer: yeah, I’m with you, I can’t keep up with these rascals! Pant-pant 😉
Haven’t done Riverbend, Nassau or Dane. Prolly give Nassau a spin this WE. Dane I’ve tried to stay away from cause ya gotta believe their going to give us that one someday! Bastards better! and I’d prefer it on virginal ears!
hey, by the way, how you guys coming on that tunnel under the vault?
So I listen to Riverbend 6/24/85 sort regularly so no biggie there except in the sense of comparing shows. Except It’s cool to go in order to see the subtle changes and how things progress. Like 6/25/85, definitely have felt a ascending arc since the first night in Alpine. Funny thing is I don’t think I’ve heard the second set of this one before? Had a tape of the first all along, but I think it was a tad too crisp so didn’t get as much love as the shows around it. Plus I think maybe I harbored some subliminal resentment for the show because of our decision to skip it to go to Toga early like we did in 84, which was awesome. Obviously if it made us skip a show that close to home, but Doooaahhh. So not sure how it’s the shows fault. LOL, but I think somehow I’ve had some weird thing about this show that has kept me away? Sorry, ramblings of a deranged lunatic!
Anywho, finally gave this bad boy a spin yesterday, though had to do it in 2 sessions as life just keeps buttin’ in like a 3 year old when mom and dad are trying to get down! Man what a show. The only really noticeable hiccup I recall was JG at the start of Jimmy, and Bob missed a vocal, really a great set, better than I remember, though I always liked it, just the tape was lesser then the others...
Second set was hot too, though perhaps they lost just a little near the end? Or maybe that was me as it was late, and by that time on a Friday this ole cowboy is usually not feeling much pain! I recall a couple little blemishes, but so what, you name any show, anyone, and I can find stuff wrong. And sorry, but I’m kinda over hearing about how terrible JGs voice is. Yes, sometimes it’s ruff, but sometimes I think the gravelly age worn voice ADDs to the affect of the songs, which is perhaps what he did best. And frankly, I’ll take the gravel voice singing in tune over a lot of that 1970 stuff we’re between the guitars and the vocals something is ALWAYS out of tune. That’s torturous for a musician.
Now I’m not trying to diss anyone’s favorite Dead etc, just stating an opinion that people perhaps overdo it with the voice comments. My favorite is when people say “I can’t listen to anything after 77”....ok, we’ll that’s cool as it’s your choice and all, but I’d say really you just have made up your mind you don’t want to like anything after that, and you probably haven’t heard enough and with the right kind of ears. Seriously, I challenge anyone to pick a “perfect” “best of “ show and if I have time I will find the cracks!
But that’s missing the point which is ITS ALL GOOD! and every era has something positive that the others don’t have. It’s all ways been yin yang folks, there is no such thing as a perfect show, except in our minds eye, which is quite A ok.
Ok, rant over, I’m obviously biased about my beloved 85!
Which brings us back to TOOOOOOOGGGGAAAAA!! Yo Butch, back in your seat, there’s 50 thousand people waiting for you to get back in your seat! Madness, the whole scene there was just surreal fucking madness, but in a good way.
I’m actually going to try and call my old house/band mates at the time as we all went. 2 I think went to blossom, and Pittsburgh. That one too, like WTF basically could of stopped by on the ride home from Merriweather, idiots! Lol, actually, I’m not sure I could have done another show. I may have caused permanent damage at Hershey, and thank god for that day off that I can’t recall much about, and I did take it a tad easier after, but not much. We ate so many veggies on that run that nobody would believe it. But I know what I came with and what was left after so.....looking back, it’s all kinda scary, we’re lucky we never had any real casualties of any sort. Few close calls, but nothing major, phewwww.
So going to call the lads, and fire up Toga tonight as We have to do a Zoom wedding this afternoon. We were supposed to be out at the Promised land for said wedding and a actual vacation, first since Seattle in ?? 2012!
Think Homer Simpson “oohhhh, Ssstttooooopid Covid”
Speaking of living via the net, was that not a fine show on Shakedown last night! Didn’t have the fire like the night before, but a fine well played outing, thanks so much to Dave and Co. for giving us this nice diversion. It’s getting to b3 a regular weekly thing, and gasp, the Mrs has actually been joining me and digging it! .....as long as I give her a good foot massage (usually during drums). She really digs the trippy graphics and colors which is even funnier as she’s never partaken except booze back in da day, it’s like giving a kid castor oil just getting her to have a beer, lol. So yeah, this Friday thing has been like the “ONE” in our music! Right on! and please keep em coming!
Ok, gotta try and call the guys and reminisce before the wedding. Then.....drum rolls please..........TOOooooGa!

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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

4/17/69

I noticed that too. It was also released as Grateful Dead Download Series Volume 12 in April 2006. I've got that. I wonder how the sound compares to the new Miller.

I'm hoping to get to this tonight... my afternoon is toast.

Doc

all ears : )

I shine in tears like the sun in April.......

Mornin', rockers!!!

Pick of the day: April 18, 1969 Purdue University, Lafayette, IN

A short sharp shot of good old Grateful Dead, just before the supernova Ark shows. Raw, raucous, and rowdy, just the way I like my early Dead. It's got the grease, it's got the jams, what's not to like???

The talented Mr Miller did a remaster of this one also, quite a while back, and while it's a little rough here and there, it's certainly worth a listen..............

Rock on,

Doc
Memory is a complicated thing, a relative to truth, but not its twin......

Omaha 73

OB & DV ...re: Omaha 73, I've had a sb on cassette for maybe 40 years ... one of my favorite shows. The PITB>1/2 Step>BigRiver>PITB is glorious, and the rest aint bad either! Grew up there, but was too young to be at the Civic at the time..... You want a hoot, enjoy the BIODTL!

4-17-69

Started last night, finishing now.
Good stuff.

Listening to the download series version.
Anyone compare it to the new torrent version?

10/21/73

Hey Topchinacat, I like that name.
Yes, I gave this one a go, recording was decent, not great. Would love to hear an upgrade of this show. I am assuming you have an audience copy? This was of course a good stretch, as after Omaha they headed up to The Met Center in Bloomington MN, where the North Stars used to play and then to Dane County.
Anybody out there receive their #42?

We’ll get started

as soon as our drummer learns to count to 20

Topchinacat, good to see ya! Yaaasss, nice under the radar show!
Really enjoyed this in spite of looks on paper: no big dogs
I picked it only because it’s one of like 3 from this tour I haven’t heard any of.
So it was a nice surprise as I’ve never heard it mentioned.

Mulling through 4/18/69 now. Good show, recording not great, but not bad for the time either.
4/17/69 my second disc is unplayable but I’m going to fire up the first disc later.

Edit: after receiving notice a week ago, 42 has started moving last night. Says due Thursday, but I won’t hold my breath. All good as long as it gets here.

something completely different

how in the hell is there only one circulating audience tape of Alpine 6/26/87? Not only are the boards for this run MIA, but only 1 audience (currently on Archive is simple benchmark) in a very thoroughly taped year of our lord 1987? like wth?

Something different indeed

3/9/92: spun this up after some 69 lovin’
Decent first, nice Cassidy.
2nd, Victims not bad, but not the beast it used to be, fun Iko, Corrina sounds a little flat, then, after a sorta abrupt end, Jer keeps it going and they get into a little jam and eventually Dark Star. From the Corrina jam onward this set is pretty fine. Another calming space (better than therapy) with a sweet Shenandoah theme, into a status quo Miracle, with a Decent Dew (one hiccup early) to bring her home. A loose but fun Satisfaction encore.
Mind blowing, perhaps not, but another enjoyable show, and a solid 92 outing.

Bluecrow: good question?

Forward never straight

Anyone up for a double shot of Nitecat over the next day or 2?
Was thinking 6/7&8/80 might round out a nice WE. And it seams appropriate to pair em, no?
I’ve only heard one set I had on tape, and after seeing several great D&C shows at Folsom, have always wanted to check these out…and wonder what it must have been like seeing a show at the peoples republic way back then. I’m sure things are much different.
Plus I’d like to hear the recordings on my home gear.
Just a thought…

Good question?

Yes Oro, it's a damn good question. This was a smoking crater of a show in 1987, "known" venue, first night of summer tour. 1 tape??

Cassidy jam way out there. Deal maybe the craziest I saw? Estimated?? Brent channeling dinosaurs, or maybe it was Healy?? Watchtower??!! Whole show is nutz.

Damn i might have to bust out my audience from the vault, hook up the HK deck, and see how it compares

87 Apline

Hey Bluecrow, yes the 87 Apline shows were great. Don't worry, we will all have great versions when the box comes out.

1980 works for me, and you were thinking, Nitecat's, absolutely!

Folsum Field 6/8/80

15th Anniversary shows. Drove all the way from Gunnison (and back same night) to catch up with Front Range friends at the Sunday show. Rip roaring start with Uncle John > Playin > Uncle John and ends with a double encore Alabama > Brokedown. This one was a rocker and the sound was excellent. I was first tier up off the field on Brent's side. He absolutely revitalized their game. Big hiatus after that for me, all the way to 1990 Compton Terrace. Got lost in the woods.
Cheers!

Just Getting To This Now (4/18/69)

Better late than never.

One reviewer compared this to 5/2/70 Harpur College. I think it is more akin to Château D'Hérouville, but no matter. It's a great little show that's small and compartmentalized enough that one can absorb it even after a difficult day starting late and a little buzzed. A perfect late Saturday night closer, but who am I to judge.

Another new one for me and for that I am grateful. A good one to boot. What's not to like.

Edit: I no sooner posted this than noticed a whole page of comments appeared (I have been gone since early this am and was replying to Doc's suggestion). Great to see lots going on here... even if I am late to reply. Still, loved 4.18.69, but it's right up my wheelhouse and I was in the mood for just such an adventure.

Unrest of spirit is a mark of life…..

Hey, rockers!!!

Pick of the day: Alfred College May 1, 1970

May 1970. The nation in conflict, colleges in turmoil, and friendly campus visits from everybody’s favorite hippy band, the Grateful Dead.

Musically speaking, I always thought May 1970 was a great month for the band. Naturally everybody knows of Harper College, the Fillmore East late show, the MIT free show, the Hollywood Festival, and even Kirkwood. But who knows about Alfred College?

Alfred opens with a short but sweet five song acoustic set. The second set opens crunchy with Not Fade Away and has decent doses of grease and jammy gooey goodness. One never hears about this show, but it’ll do quite nicely…………..

This is “a nice little show” that would make a great official release some day…….

Until then, there’s a Miller remaster, treat your ears to it!!!

Doc
The sole art that suits me is that which, rising from unrest, tends toward serenity…..

Alfred College

This might have been the first show I pulled down from the Archive

5/1/70 Alfred

Sounds a lot like the one I looked up last week, my sister's first show 4/24/70 from Mammoth Gardens. Now she tells me she also saw the final Jimmy Hendrix Experience performance of 6/29/69 at the Denver Pop Festival a couple of months before Woodstock. Wow, ya think ya know someone and then you find out she's way hipper than you knew.
Cheers!

did you give her crap..

For not bringing you along?

Astro Man

From the vantage point of the 21st century, seeing Jimi Hendrix live seems more like a supernatural event than a rock concert.

Folsum 1980

1st Show - RUFKM - I would have bet good money that no way in heck that in 1980 there was show opener UJB > Playing > UJB. Unreal.

So I clicked in on Friend of the Devil from night before (cave up in the hills mythos) and it may be the best post-Keith / Brent-era FOTD I have ever heard (and no, not a backhanded compliment - its really really good.) Ramble on Rose - you bet ya! This first set kicks it.

They are very much "on" opening 6/7 - Colorado always brought out the hi-energy best . And no doubt same for 6/8. Can't help but notice that soundboards of these 2 shows are not in general circulation. release worthy 1980.

I saw the show almost just prior to this Folsum 2-fer, Minneapolis 5/31. Set II has got some fun and interesting song selection. They seem to be in a strong space just then?

I don’t know if you saw my post regarding your Sis’ Mammoth Garden show. 2 nights for sure, and recording attributed to 4/24 is, in fact, from the second night 4/25 (per JGMF blogspot). Did your sister have any foggy/clear recollections of the Mammoth Garden show she saw? Of seeing Hendrix in Denver?

So yes, agree DR Seeing Jimi = Supernatural Event

Jimi at age 12

No, I was too busy BMXing my 5-speed Stingray Fastback over table tops in the dirt fields of Dry Creek in S.Denver to be going to shows in '70. Sis said the Mammoth show was trippy and like a big roller rink (wider than it was long so you were close no matter where you stood, and black lights and a really good sound system). Hendrix not so good. Maybe not her thing at that time. All a bit vague. I can imagine. I didn't trip until I was 19 or so.
Edit: I've created a monster, she's looking up a Johnny Winter show from around '73 too. All you have to do is connect some unused synapses and voila'.
Edit 2: Oh yeah, and I just emailed her about the years she lived in SF CA ('72-'75?) Total hippies driving out in a '50s International bread truck converted into a camper with the required Indian print cotton spread on the ceiling and following a guy named Father who was an Indian mystic. Incredible guy for real.

Omaha '73

thanks OB & DV... I'm a long time listener, first time caller to this site ... have to say how much I appreciate all the reviews, comments & recommendations.... years/shows I probably would have passed over turn out to be gems! My first show was Pauley (ucla) '82 ... did most of the west coast shows pretty intensely for about 5 years, tape collection of prob 400+ hours. I had a pal who had copied sound boards (1st gen?) onto reel-to-reel .... he let me borrow & copy them and I was hooked. The Omaha '73 sb I have is the same as what's in archive, judging by the missing start to HCS. Thanks again to all for the great tips, reviews & enthusiasm. My two most memorable dead events was the "annual Red Rocks rain out" of '82 and the Friday 13th ('84) Dark Star at the Greek. I still get an ear-to-ear grin!....tc

From the Vault (vinyl)

Experience Vinyl has pushed release dates back to "summer 2022".

Not too vague :-)

For those that were wondering.

Two From The Vaults on vinyl ?

Is that one of the releases you mean, Dennis ? That was supposed to be being re-released last year-I had it on order for about 12 months-then my order was cancelled and it never came out. Good if it finally does.

Istshow - interesting that your sister only considered the Hendrix concert not so good. I didn't start going to gigs until 1972, and Hendrix cast a massive shadow over the 70's. So for someone like me he was already mythic. But if you actually saw him, it might have been more a case of "yeah, he was okay, but..."
I know from events I experienced, bands I saw etc, that the reality I experienced was often very different from how it has been written about and presented subsequently.
Sorry for diverting !

Dave & Vault

Yes.

Experience Vinyl is releasing the entire vault series,,, I ordered back in January, but the dates keep getting pushed back.

Also, the idiot that I am I ended up ordering two copies of Vault 1. (and they both have been pushed back :-) )

Like the old saying - “They also serve who only stand and wait.”

82 and 80

Hey Topchinacat, 82 was a good year to get the ball rolling and at Pauly Pavilion. That must have been fun. Would love to see more 82 released. A lot to offer. Thanks for joining in on the fun.

How about releasing the official fifteen year anniversary show from 6/8/80. You are right Bluecrow, what a start with the Uncle John's Band ,Playing, UJB. I have it going now. Man, these guys are good.
Was that John Scheer in CO with the introduction?

John Scher

Yup. Did he use his patented, "OK..... the finest band in the land, The Grateful Dead!" ? Isn't he the one on the Englishtown introductions?
Cheers
Edit: My ticket stub says Feyline and CU Program Council. I'll give it a listen.
Edit 2: Yeah, that's him.

John Scher

Yes, he is the promoter from the Englishtown show. I thought he was mainly an East Coast promoter and thought it was odd he was in CO in 1980?
But I guess it was the official 15th anniversary show, so maybe that is why?

Ordering twice

Surprisingly I don't think I've done this yet. If the records/cds don't arrive the day after I have ordered them, I usually forget what it is I have ordered though. So opening the large 12"" sized packages is often a voyage of discovery. Box set of cds? vinyl? Quite exciting - whoever orders these things has excellent taste.

POTDWD

Hit 6/780 & 6/8/80 yesterday and 5/1/70 today.

Finally got to scratch the Folsom 80 itch as I’d only heard the second set from 6/8 previously.
Good sheet Mon! And nice job, again, Nitecat!
The seventh built up nicely and how can you go wrong with an opening like the 8th.

5/1/70 was ok, nothing mind blowing, good little show for at work. Another that I’ve been meaning to check out as I went on a field trip there to check it out in HS. Not sure if I was seriously interested in going there or just wanted to get out of school and road trip lol. Obviously wasn’t a good student back then.
Quite the difference between this and it’s famous neighbor…more notches in the ole Deadbase bedpost!
NEXT!

I'm Behind (as usual)

How were the 1980 shows? Both off my radar. I think I missed the fall 73 show also.. argh, responsibilities. I hate being responsible, but someone's gotta do it. Take a load of fannie.... a song with more meaning to me than words can express.

So steer me guys, of the three mentioned, where should I go today? Or should we just start anew? I might be getting my 42 soon, which will only gum up the wheels further, but in a good way.

Also.. I've been neglectful on a couple of my slipped promises. Burning a few now and putting a package together soon.

Picks

Hey Jim, it happens, we all fall behind. The 1980 shows are fantastic, I would definitely recommend both 15 anniversary shows. I really liked 6/8. But I am biased on 1980.
Thanks for the picks OB.
Send us something new Jim.

Good to hear you are starting to see #42 out there.
These are all shipped through UPS Mail innovations and UPS my choice still says I have no packages on the way. Why??

Today?

Don’t want to pile on so thinking 5/18/77 Fox?
Guessing Jim’s heard it so he can catch up, but those needing an immediate fix can score?
But I’m open to suggestions…

This is one off of Dave’s list, but reviews are somewhat mixed i.e., it’s great, versus its good but not great etc, no one said it sucked…if used as pick, would Dave have gone to the right street but wrong house again? We’ll let you decide.
Of course there’s not many houses left on that street.

His job is to shed light, not to master: all 3 of those shows are good in their own ways. Obviously era differences, but all are good era comparatively. So Chever way your pleasure tends.
All good things my friend! Time is elastic, keep at it and it will loosen.
Having to be an adult can really suck, especially when one is not prepared to be one. At least that’s my story lol.
Hang in there baby (remember those posters with the cat?)

Topchinacat: Glad you jumped in, need more folks to participate, we won’t bite!

5/18/77

The other Fox show from 1977. Have never listened to this one but I will get it going, I mean we better, it is not very often OB recommends a 77 show.

2/22-23/74

What too obvious? :-P

P.S. Traffic Lights (get all the pole) and Crosswalks (get all the paint)

WTJ

you been hangin’ out at the Bong Rec center again ; ) I wish I had 42! Hopefully I can drive the Other Half nuts this WE!
Oh, speaking of, she thinks there should be a board for “Deadhead significant others”, a place where the poor folks who have to live with us nuts can commiserate! Perhaps we should lobby Marye?

DV, recommend is a strong word!
Occasionally I might actually recommend something, but usually I’m just scratching some itch, or more likely shooting in the dark lol. I don’t know what I’m goin for, but I’m gonna go for it fo sure!
To go where not many Deadheads have gone before! Like Star Trek for shows!

5/18/77: so as I said, this was on Dave’s “list” which we’ve been trying to chip away at the last couple years.
It’s May 77 so definitely not a bad show, but it seemed a tad lesser than some of its neighbors.
This is perhaps why it hasn’t been released?
Meaning, the bar can be pretty high when it comes to May 77, so though this was a good show, I didn’t find it great, comparatively. Like it’s good, but not Buffalo good…
Hopefully that makes sense and no one’s going to torch my house tonight lol.
Daves 41 I found to be up to the task, for example.
Now, my listening conditions where not optimum, but I think I was able to get a good enough read? But maybe not?
Interested to know how y’all feel about this one?
I’m sure some 77 nuts will want this (all 77) out, but I’m from the camp that feels there’s enough 77, at least for a while, since it’s been covered more than any other year: 5 DP, 6 DaP, 1 RT, 1 DL, and four boxes if you include Hartford.
To me, this would be another good street, wrong house pick, of course he’s been to all the other houses already lol.

So since no one’s offered up a pick, I might hit some more 82. Perhaps a little west coast warm vibe on this cold snowy morn? Say 7/17/82 and/or 7/18/82? A little California dreaming for hump day?
Maybe tomorrow Doc can take us primal again, though we’d love to hear from some new blood, or GOGD, Cept he’s a slacker now ; )

5/18/77 Mention

Hey OB, we will take a 77 show mention out of you.
I like this show. Sound quality is great. Enjoyed the whole show. Love these early versions of Jack a Roe. Great FOD. Groovy Estimated Eyes. Stella Blue! And close it out with Brokedown Palace, yes! Another good May 77. Not sure if it ever gets released, but who knows. I think they will release more 77, would love to see 10/2/77. One of my favorites from the fall. But hey, more variety, mix it up, absolutely. Like start hitting the early Brent years a little more......

Was thinking about other Nassau show from Spring 1990 for tomorrow, 3/30/90. Everyone knows that night before with BM. Let me know.

Still no tracking for me.
Conekid, did you get notified through UPS my choice?

#17453

has safely made port here in the high desert red rock country.

dug deep into the vault yesterday and pulled out the discs for rockin the cradle (Egypt '78).

DV

It took 5 days from the “your order has shipped” email from the GD Store until UPS My Choice said “package received for processing”.
It then took another week for transport and delivery.

Conekid

Thanks Conekid.
I am at day eight with your order has shipped and still nothing in UPS or USPS.

Enjoy it.

Created Shipping Label

My "Your Order Has Been Shipped" email sent, I think the 28th still reads my shipping label has been created with no updates.

Par for the course. I have waited 48 years for this, what's another few days.

Still.. I want a job in the Shipping Label Created department at Rhino. Looks to be a kushy gig..

Jim

Too funny Jim, laughing hard!

Yes, it is really hard to understand their process, maddening at times. I try not to think about, but I will for now. I can go on eBay right now and buy #42 sealed with bonus disc, but loyal fans like us can't even get tracking information on orders we placed in early November, much less our CDs. Come on!
I have said it before, but how did I get on this shit list and how do I get off it?

Cushy gig

More like their smoking too much kush!
Great idea, have the whole thing, right down to the shipping crew, be actual Dead Heads!

DV, I think it’s because your a Viking fan ; )

Mine has the same message and has been sitting in GJ since the 2. BUT, the green slider thing on the bottom has moved almost all the way to the end so maybe it wall show up tonight like it says?
Whatever, just so it gets here. Yeah Jim, like pops used to say “you made it through life this long without it”

3/30/90

Ok, it’ll be interesting how it sounds off of interweb. Should be good for the task at hand!

Glad you liked 5/18/77. I wouldn’t consider it a release or not soon anyway, but Dave has it on that list so it’ll probably be next years first pick,lol.

There is no must in art because art is free.........

Hey rockers!!!

Pick Of The Day: MIT Free show, May 6 1970

A cold day in May brings forth some hot music...........

Was free then, is free now.....................

Absolutely worth a listen.........

Rock on,

Doc
No one is free, even the birds are chained to the sky.............

5/6/70

I'm in for 5/6. It's been ages since I listened to it. A neat little show with some history I believe..

Up early on my second cup of strong, dark roasted Kenya Nyeri Chinga. Yummi Double Dose.

I like almost all the spring 1970 stuff that was fortunately recorded. Some of these are sleeper, under the radar shows or as Doc says - well worth a listen. I like Alfred a lot for some reason too. Bottled history that seems to improve with age. When you take these shows in context that have something to say. I think this one might have been the first time they played since the Kent State Massacre, if not the first very soon after.

Anyway enough caffeinated blabbering, I'm in.

Nassau 3/30/90

Man, they played some goods shows at Nassau Coliseum and this one to my ears is one of the better ones. I haven't listened to the full show in years. Of course you start with a Help Slip Franklins and end with an Attics of My Life. And all kinds of greatness in between.

Hope you were able to enjoy it OB. Jim, you are still behind.

It is finally warm here in MN. Enjoy the weekend all.

Behind I am.. Yes.

And it looks like I was behind on the thread and did not see 3/30/90 suggested. Looks like I am in for a twofer today, which is just fine with me.

Stay warm and dry all.. it's cold rain here in the mountains East.

3/30/90

what a kick ass show. every freaking second. started yesterday afternoon and finished this morning. Great late era Help > Slip > Frank opener. Excellent Standing on the Moon, such a beautiful song. Attics?- OMFG. what a mind blowing encore. riding the same big wave of the previous night. Listened to the Miller cause I don't have either box - what was I thinking back then?!

I mentioned the Egypt release a few days ago though not specifically as a POTD. It was something of a disappointment back then. I guess they chose it because it was a multitrack and an epic adventure. Been years since I listened to it. so far given Disc 2 and the bonus several spins. its got its moments. the Shakedown is very cool to me. I got to thinking that it had to be only the second or third time they played it and sure enough it was second time.

4/17/69. thanks Doc! ran through this one several times. more classic '69 goodness. is that Bobby playing slide on that early Hard to Handle? seems a tad rough. the It's a Sin segue in St. Stephen is energetically jarring, interesting but not really feeling it (will have to "relisten" again.) Really painful to have Caution cut off like that. Damn.

Have a good safe and fun weekend everyone. Started in on DaP 42 and boy does it sound sweet. So that's where you'll find me later today.

Bluecrow/Egypt

Agree with you wholeheartedly on 3/30/90.

I will take the Egypt release with me in the car today. Such a fascinating trip, the whole process, how it came about, financing the trip, borrowing the Who's sound system from London. And there is a lot of good music there. My memory is the bonus disc wasn't that great, but I will have to check it out again and confirm.
Enjoy your #42, mine is now scheduled for next Wednesday. So at some point I will join you all..
And I hope we don't have to wait until July/August until we find out about this year's box.