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    One more Saturday night at Winterland! Yes, we're back to home base for DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 42, the complete show from Winterland, San Francisco, 2/23/74. The one that featured the earliest amalgamation of what would soon become the Wall of Sound, the one that is so "loud, clear, and defined," it's been ripe for release for quite some time and we're glad it's finally getting its due.

    First set or second, there are no wrong answers here. From the unique show opener of Chuck Berry's "Around And Around" and an incredible "Here Comes Sunshine" that would then disappear for 18 years, to a medley of WAKE OF THE FLOOD tracks - "Row Jimmy," "Weather Report Suite," and "Stella Blue" - cementing their status in the canon and an unstoppable hour through the classic 1973-1974 Dead that is “He’s Gone”>“Truckin’”>“Drums”>“The Other One”>“Eyes Of The World,” it's all exceptionally hot.

    Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 42: WINTERLAND, SAN FRANCISCO, 2/23/74 was recorded by Kidd Candelario and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. Grab a copy while you can.

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  • Charlie3
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    Herbie, Jerry & Merle

    Herbie Hancock is about the only one of the artists on your list that I have already, Oro. I have Maiden Voyage, Empyrean Isles, Head Hunters, Sextant, Thrust, and Man Child. I find all to be enjoyable.

    1973-1974 Jerry and Merle is a sweet spot, lots of soul and jazz influences showing up in their stuff from that time, those Keystone Encores box set shows in particular are phenomenal. And an absolute highlight of the Merle and Jerry Collaborations would be Merle Saunders and Friends CD Fire Up +, that disc is on fire from start to finish, incorporating tunes that are straight soul like Lonely Avenue and Expressway to Your Heart, other stuff that is more jazzy like Save Mother Earth and Man Child, and some funky stuff like My Problems Got Problems and the phenomenal Welcome to the Basement. Merle Saunders, Jerry Garcia, Tom Fogerty, John Kahn and Bill Vitt tear it up. An album well worth tracking down if you don't have it already, just peak Jerry and Merle. CD was Released in 1992 and is includes most of the songs from the 1970s albums Fire Up and Heavy Turbulence, I think.

    Another gem is Hooteroll?, a jazz fusion masterpiece from Jerry Garcia and Howard Wales. That is a great album, great to listen to from start to finish, cohesive and gorgeous music.

    I think it was something in the air, 'cause there were just a lot of musical styles and genres being mixed together or teased apart into something new during that period from the late '60s to the mid-'70s. Funk flowing out of soul, jazz fusion explorations by a bunch of artists, the emergence of electronica with stuff like I Feel Love, lots of cool stuff all happening in a relatively short fertile time. Musical forms are constantly shifting, blending, and distilling new stuff through time, but that late '60s to mid '70s period seems like a particularly fertile time, especially for the mixing of jazz, soul, funk, blues, and rock and roll into new forms combining elements of each and taking them in new directions.

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    Still going with Boston Garden '91.

  • Oroborous
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    VGUY, that should be awesome. I read about it in Bass Player magazine. Interviews with both Les Claypool and Geddy Lee. They asked Geddy what he thought of Les trying to do this and Geddy teasingly said he was nuts!
    Hopefully they’ll be a big brown beaver sighting?

    CHARLIE: interesting how you heard of SJ. Even more so how many of us come to certain music, fascinating really.
    I heard if it after reading an article by Michael Chabon in Rolling Stone about his at the time new book Telegraph Ave (which I liked), but in this article he gets into this Soul Jazz that I’d never heard of, and I’ve been into lots of Jazz fir quite some time. It’s hard to pinpoint and like many styles or genres it casts a wide range: from syrupy string laden Mizel brothers productions all the way to more standard Jazz played by more recognizable names. The sweet spot to me is very much like what Merl and Jerry do on say 9/1/74, or the recent GarciaLive Vol 18, or on Fire Up and Heavy Turbulence etc. I like the oft used description of “Jazz with a backbeat”.
    I have maybe 2-3 dozen albums but would say these are good ones to start with:
    Donald Byrd: Black Bird
    Charles Earland: Black Talk and Leaving this Planet with Freddie Hubbard and Joe Henderson
    Idris Muhammad: Power of Soul (title track is awesome Hendrix cover), and a (2 for 1) of Black Rhythm Revolution, and Peace & Rhythm.
    Deodato: Prelude
    Grover Washington Jr.: I like Inner City Blues and Mister Magic the best. Earth Tones off Magic is nice groovy mellow almost new age like? One of my favorites of his. I think Magic is a good first choice. Soul Box is pretty good too. I’d say ya might not like all the tracks on all the albums depending how your pleasure tends, but if you made an 80 minute best of from the three you’d have a super cd. If that helps? But I’d advise anyone interested to check out stuff online first.
    There’s a good series of compilations out called the Legends of Acid Jazz that has some good treatments of many of the main cats, like genre guitar go to’ Melvin Sparks, and Leon Spencer, George Benson dabbles around the Soul Jazz edges. Jimmy Smith Back at the Chicken Shack is old school, and Dr Lonnie Smith is another of many keyboard/organists. One of the cool things is how like jazz, so many of the main dudes play on each other’s albums.
    Many more but those are good starts.
    The cool thing is it’s easy to Segway into things like MMW: End of the World Party and Uninvisble, and even on to the Beastie Boys, yes those Beasties Boys: The In Sound From Way Out and The Mix Up. I think of Curtis/Superfly as another cousin to all this. Herbie Hancock Head Hunters fits too.
    To me SJ is like another kind of jazz fusion. Not the scorching Miles or Return To Forever etc, which is more rock like to my ears, but like a funky soul stew of jazz, soul and rock. Perhaps like some Motown cats played jazz?
    As I say, sometimes hard to pin point, and certainly not for everyone, but to me it’s like the Garcia/licorice story.
    Not everyone will like it, but those who do will love it!

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    ....yea. Primus will be playing it. Contemplating taking some fungus along 🤔.

  • Charlie3
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    My exposure to soul jazz or acid jazz is limited and mainly consists of listening to Fusion FM hosted by Roy Ayers in Grand Theft Auto IV in Liberty City, not sure if that's exactly on point. Nice stuff, a mellow, jazzy, psychedelic vibe to some of it as I recall. Mister Magic by Grover Washington Jr is on my list of future acquisitions, maybe some Roy Ayers as well, who knows once I get started in that direction, just haven't picked it up yet. Hopefully Mister Magic is before the transition to Kenny G. that you describe, Oro. Grand Theft Auto in its various iterations actually turned me on to a bunch of great stuff on the various radio stations. Cool to just drive around listening to the radio, sparking the occasional police chase or just looking for hidden stuff. Don't knock it if you haven't tried it. Not a bad option as far as an option for a time vacuum. You know you're hitting the GTA a little hard when you start to notice all the unique stunt jumps when you're driving around in the real world. (GTA fiends may get it, the rest of you will just have to play the game excessively, then take a drive in the real world.)

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    Mary says the tech team is looking in to why you can’t post.

    Thanks Mary!

  • billy the kiddd
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    Saw Sugar Pie DeSanto and Etta James both play at the S.F. Blues Festival, also saw Etta James play with the Dead in 1982. Next box is gonna be something from 90,91, 92, possibly Winterland March 1977. I hope its something from 1969/1970 with acoustic material included.

  • Oroborous
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    To quote the great Chris Berman!
    What a game! Now that was sports worth watching.
    The outcome does not surprise me. The Bolts are like a bad case of the clap that just won’t go away, and I mean that as a complement!

    AJS: well said as usual. I agree. Pretty much sums it all up.
    MIKE: LOL. and yeah, Kadri’s “enthusiasm” can sometimes be a little nerve racking.
    PF: love the cup jokes etc, and the energizer bunny, hell last night I felt like I was doing speed!
    Dark-Star: good to see ya xxoo. Sounds like your the drunk yelling from the arm chair. I’m just showing solidarity for my fellow Americans, and VGUY, STOLZTY, PANCHO, PT BARNUM etc.
    VGUY/PRIMUS: will they be doing Farewell to Kings? Either way should be cool! Have Fun!

    CHARLIE: cool stuff, thanks for the good read! Brought up so many awesome aural memories. You guys ever check out Soul or Acid Jazz (prefer Soul as Acid is not really appropriate). Charles Earland, Donald Byrd, Idris Muhammad, Melvin Sparks, Deodato, Jimmy Smith, Dr Lonnie Smith, Grover Washington Jr. (before he went all Kenny G) and so many more. Fits right next to Curtis the Superfly Pusherman etc, GOOD SHEET MON!
    Lots of crossover between Soul, Motown Jazz etc. I always felt much of what Merl and Jerry were up to fit in this category. And Disco is perhaps cousins to all this? I like to make my own sorta best of CDs, and I made a killer 2 disc version for a friends young daughter who loved disco. But we like it too, it can be fun stuff, hell folks used to dis The Bee Gees but if you really check out their music it’s pretty solid (and those boys burned like chimneys. My cousin worked on their studio and said no burned like the BeeGees) and I Feel Love, that was my opening track! And what a great stoner song. Put that on a big stereo set up with good stereo imaging, get prepped ; ) , and sit in the sweet spot and check it out. It sounds amazing and that cool auto pan stuff is right outta Healy and Mickeys bag of tricks.

    Ah yes, Music, sweet, sweet music, the antidote to what ails ya and the ills of the world.
    As Mr Ones would say, Music is the best! Crazy how much great music there is…

    CONEKID: almost forgot ya. I can understand your ongoing feud. Took us awhile to get over the Wings lol.
    And as a life long Buffalo fan for good or for Ill, it’s still hard to like the Dolphins (sorry vguy) Dallas, and I’m not sure I’ll ever be able to root for the Patsies, even without Brady and Gronk!
    I’m just curious, is because of the overall war that was that great rivalry or perhaps just the Lemieux issues?
    I’m trying to remember, I’ll have to look for that show you mentioned.

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    Ah, soul

    Hahaha. See what I did there. 🤭

  • Charlie3
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    I Feel Love

    You are correct, DaveRock, Donna Summer's I Feel Love is great, if I'm in the mood for some Donna it's either that track or Love to Love You Baby more often than not.

    Sugar Pie DeSanto is awesome, one of my favorites. Soulful Dress is a great tune and she has a lot more just as good, or in a couple cases even better. I picked up a couple of CD's by her and Go Go Power, the complete Chess Singles is a smoker from start to finish, the better of the two that I picked up. Soulful Dress, Do I Make Myself Clear, In The Basement (with Etta James) and Mama Didn't Raise No Fools stand out in my memory at the moment as highlights of that collection. Do I Make Myself Clear is absolutely on fire.

    And, yeah, the Stax boxes, the first three were an early acquisition for me in my soul collection, but there is also a fourth Stax Box - Rarities and the Best of the Rest - that covers some soul rarities, some gospel, and some of the other stuff released on Stax and related labels that ranges outside the soul category. That fourth one is not quite as consistently good as the first three, but it does have a few things that got in my head and my completist nature left me no choice but to pick it up.

    For something from this century that sounds like it could have been released in the 1970's, check out Charles Bradley, particularly the track Ain't It a Sin. If you can watch him do Ain't It a Sin online on the you post it video site and not want to pick up some of his stuff I would be surprised. Started checking Charles out when I saw an article about his soulful cover of Black Sabbath's Changes, good stuff, cool version of the song.

    And Curtis Mayfield, started checking him out when a friend suggested the Superfly soundtrack, and all it took was the song Pusherman to get me seeking out more Curtis, not to mention my dawning realization that the HBO show the Wire had a bunch of Curtis playing at various points and I dug it. Give Pusherman a listen and see if you can sit still. There's a good box set - Curtis, Keep On Keeping On, Curtis Mayfield Studio Albums 1970-974, a good way to get all his albums at once for a great price. The HBO show the Sopranos also had a bunch of soul tunes scattered throughout, I'm still looking to track down a copy of the song Sally Go 'Round the Roses by the Jaynettes. Or rather, I just picked up a copy this morning, further support for the hypothesis that I have an online shopping problem and a near pathological need to expand my CD collection.

    I'll try and shut up now, but once I start down the soul rabbit-hole I can't stop.

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One more Saturday night at Winterland! Yes, we're back to home base for DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 42, the complete show from Winterland, San Francisco, 2/23/74. The one that featured the earliest amalgamation of what would soon become the Wall of Sound, the one that is so "loud, clear, and defined," it's been ripe for release for quite some time and we're glad it's finally getting its due.

First set or second, there are no wrong answers here. From the unique show opener of Chuck Berry's "Around And Around" and an incredible "Here Comes Sunshine" that would then disappear for 18 years, to a medley of WAKE OF THE FLOOD tracks - "Row Jimmy," "Weather Report Suite," and "Stella Blue" - cementing their status in the canon and an unstoppable hour through the classic 1973-1974 Dead that is “He’s Gone”>“Truckin’”>“Drums”>“The Other One”>“Eyes Of The World,” it's all exceptionally hot.

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 42: WINTERLAND, SAN FRANCISCO, 2/23/74 was recorded by Kidd Candelario and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. Grab a copy while you can.

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When mine got sent back we checked with the PO and they said it only had the physical address info, not the PO Box.
So for whatever reason the label wasn’t printed the same/correctly? It seemed like knowing that helped Rhino?
Like you, I’ve not had other issues. Fingers crossed it hasn’t happened since. Good Luck amigo!

Oh, is that avatar a Chork? Are you into Leftover Salmon? Played in a band called Wave Mountain Riders BITD. We had an original song called Chork: about being on Salmon tour and what happens when ya mate a pig and a chicken! Fun stuff lol, your avatar brought back fond memories!

....waiting for the mail carrier.
Playing disc 2 of Boxillas Cape Cod '79 offering.
You know whats on it.
My anticipation is high.
Edit. Leftover Salmon gets my nod. Great band.
Govt Mule and Los Lobos coming here soon.

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DP 42 and DP vol 1 Vinyl, the eagle has landed. I must say Dr. Rhino at customer service is the man or woman! Not easy dealing with crazy deadheads, but he or she is a whisperer!!

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I’m glad to hear your experiences have been positive, too.

My avatar is a “Buster” in reference to the song by my favorite working band, moe.

What the hell. That was a terrible first round draw for our beloved Leafs.

I know I said the Lighting won’t win three times in a row, but they’ve got a way better goalie. We may be looking at another first round exit. If they don’t win game one tonight that really puts the pressure on them. Good luck.

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....good to see.
Because, "music is indeed the best".
Especially when it's '74 GOGD.
It's baseball season here AJS. Lol.
Calgary is gonna ruin your day.

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Vguy 72 before I even ripped in 42!! at he's gone as I write this, Just beautiful! God bless the Grateful Dead and God bless Vinyl!

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Check pm

"It really was no miracle
What happened was just this..."

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I’m just waiting on the puck drop now. A big “Gulp” going against Tampa Bay, but I think this is Auston Matthews’ year.
Regardless, the playoffs are the best, and always plenty rough! Love it!
Deep breath….

(PS - I’m glad 42 is landing yonder and hither. Here is hoping those ole shipping blues are of another time.)

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Really stupid penalty, but it seems to have energized the Leafs. They had more SOG than Tampa during the PK.

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Breathing…just breathing…

(Clifford doth sucketh for such a stupid penalty!)

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But those were some pretty weak penalty calls against Tampa

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Normally I would say the game is over, but this is the Leafs.

Is anyone else having issues with the audio feed? On my broadcast, the audio is almost a full second ahead of the video. Really annoying.

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This Auston Matthews is something else. A kid that grew up in Arizona may be the best Toronto Maple Leaf I’ve ever seen in 60+ years watching.

Note to self: Must order new Garcia release. Expectations are muted, as there has been so many Keystone releases to date in both series, all his bands, so I’m expecting more of the same loose arrangements, and fun playing, with no surprises.

....aww. Phil laying it down.
Like a warm blanket.
Lemme get up in there. Thanks.
Edit.
That Big River raised both eyebrows.
That's what I'm talking about.
Slam dunk. It really doesn't get much better.
Had to shift down to Ramble-On.
Some gears were ground, but the foot found the clutch eventually.
Sounds awesome.
This is what we pay for.

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....I've caught at least 2 slipknot references....there are several runs Jerry makes in The Other One where he is clearly playing the primordial riff.

There is another brief moment another reference gets made toward the beginning of the Playin jam on the bonus disc.

Ears are astute, and will remain perk'd.

Now back to your regularly scheduled GD sammich of choice.

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Pretty good game there eh!
Yassss Clifford went a little over the top, but it got em fired up!

Let’s hope it’s not just one game where the Bolts were sleeping, but now they get woke after getting spanked!

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For those who still depend on the Pony Express to get our Dave's Picks...

How is the sound, and how does it compare to Dave's Picks 13 (one of my fav's)

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Wow. Evidently, the USPS has the ability to travel time!

Checked my DaP shipping progress this morning at about 7:30am. The website showed that at 5:30am, the shipment was in my city’s post office. (Yay!)

BUT it also showed that at 7:41am (ten minutes in the future!) it would materialize in San Leandro, CA, about 80 miles away. AND at 11:41am (more than four hours into the future) it would leave there. WTF?

So, I think we can conclude that either a) the postal service is capable of manipulating time and space or b) those tracking details are complete bullshit.

Ah well. Either way I'll probably get the DaP this week.

I finally found a show I am willing to attend

George Clinton and P-Funk

July 28

Maybe Daves will arrive today
Pleeeease

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DAP 13 has been one of my faves as well along with the 73 UCLA show as far as audio goes. This release is just a pleasing to my ear as #13. To me the pedal effects (especially Phil's) are extra meaty and dynamic to my ears a nice example are the Moog effects (sounds like they are Moog anyway) in HCS jams. Dare I say I like the audio dynamics more so than on 13?! Very nice release. Pleasure to listen to for sure.

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04/25 Order information received by UPS
04/26 Shipping mail received
05/03 Package received for processing in Fontana

It looks like it might be delivered this year.

...but how much will it cost? I'd forgotten about those three letters, USP, for a while, but coming on here, and seeing them typed out it all came rushing back. I went to check my bank statements, to see if they ever paid me back for the money they overcharged me for delivering the box in October. And they did - £32.59 paid back to me in March. I had to be firm with them, as I recall. Firm and persistent.. but fair, I like to think.

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Luckily Dave's Picks are sent by Mail Innovations. This means that UPS pass the parcel to USPS. It is USPS who ship it across the pond and give it to the national customs authority. The local customs then ask for payment of VAT and administrative costs and subsequently pass the goods on to the national postal service who deliver it to your door.
When it comes to box sets then the whole process is carried out by UPS with all their ineptitude and mistakes which, as we have experienced, can result in huge costs that have no basis in fact or law. It is a long and frustrating task to sort out their mess and get ones money back.
I can understand that our pals in the US of A prefer UPS to USPS but they don't have to deal with customs etc.

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The Me and Bobby Mcgee highlights how they were just learning how to use the microphones for the wall of sound. If they backed up a bit and instead of singing into the top mic they were singing into to both with the lower mic being out of phase, then the vocal signal canceled out. Fascinating to hear the learning in progress.

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DaP 42 showed up in the mail today. I immediately ripped it and loaded it into iTunes. I took Dave's advise and built a playlist with the Bonus Disc, DaP 13 and DaP 42 (in that order). Listening to (and enjoying it) right now!

Simonrob-yes, I don't remember paying excess charges for the last Daves Picks I ordered. Just the box.
With the box they told me that it had been classified as containing items of clothing-which for some reason are taxed more heavily than cds. That was just what one person said though-it seems a very random process.

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I don't know JJC. It sounds like they all fade out and fade back in at the same time as if there's something else going on.

JiminMD tough ti say. I am a few songs in and overall things sound good, but some bits sound distorted or overdriven. This could just be the sound people getting the beginning of the show straightened out. But I would say so far it goes to Dave's Picks 13. Just starting Sugaree.

Jerry sounds good. That's all I care about :-)

Count me among the minority, but I love my USPS. UPS can suck my kiss. In the end USPS bring my shit, ups takes forever to hand off to them, but once they have,,,, I usually get same day.

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Came yesterday, took to work and played. Sounded great there.

Home now and listening on headphones.

Great recording!!!

Not a Here Comes Sunshine expert, but this one sounds great. AND I have NOT heard anyone talking,,,,, AMEN :-)

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Glad you have good luck with these clowns.
Mine has followed its usual route: passing within a mile and a half of my house, and a quarter mile of the PO, twice! Once going to Denver, then all the way back across the state to GJ. So now it’ll be another day to come halfway back across the state again. Yeeesshhk, hey, as long as it gets here : )

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The Bonus Disc pic would make a GREAT sheet of blotter!!!

AM I RIGHT? CAN I GET AN AMEN?

also,,,, I surprised the glass hasn't sold out yet,,,, guess the "love of the glass" is over.

Time to bring back the axe!!! (givem the axe, the axe, the axe, the axe. right in the neck, right in the neck, right in the neck)

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Like Bill Cosby said,,,,,, "just a little snakie lick"

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Dennis, I haven't heard a reference to that Cosby album in maybe 40 years! Fantastic! .... SNAKES ... you get outta here!!! I will not comment on the whole Cosby saga, but WILL say that I enjoyed the Playboy Jazz Festival at the Hollywood Bowl for 15+ years (hosted by the Cos) ....

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no email, no tracking number, no bread in the breadbox. Sure hope this is not the one that gets "lost in the mail".

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