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    One more Saturday night at Winterland! Yes, we're back to home base for DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 42, the complete show from Winterland, San Francisco, 2/23/74. The one that featured the earliest amalgamation of what would soon become the Wall of Sound, the one that is so "loud, clear, and defined," it's been ripe for release for quite some time and we're glad it's finally getting its due.

    First set or second, there are no wrong answers here. From the unique show opener of Chuck Berry's "Around And Around" and an incredible "Here Comes Sunshine" that would then disappear for 18 years, to a medley of WAKE OF THE FLOOD tracks - "Row Jimmy," "Weather Report Suite," and "Stella Blue" - cementing their status in the canon and an unstoppable hour through the classic 1973-1974 Dead that is “He’s Gone”>“Truckin’”>“Drums”>“The Other One”>“Eyes Of The World,” it's all exceptionally hot.

    Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 42: WINTERLAND, SAN FRANCISCO, 2/23/74 was recorded by Kidd Candelario and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. Grab a copy while you can.

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  • billy the kiddd
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    My Doctor wrote a book.....

    Since we were just talking about famous people and now we are talking about literature I will combine the two subjects. My doctor wrote the book The Kite Runner, once he wrote the book he no longer needed to be my doctor. He was a great guy and a great doctor.

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    Letters - Barry Miles

    "The Letters of William S. Burroughs 1944-1959" is a great book. In fact, I prefer it his novels. Less messing about, if you know what I mean.
    And talking of Barry Miles - his "William Burroughs - A Life" is worth looking at, if you are interested in Burroughs. It seems a very truthful book - it doesn't always present Burroughs in the best light - which, considering what he did, isn't a bad thing.
    Denis Johnson is a more recent American writer who is worth reading. His collection of short stories, "Jesus' Son" is a good starting point, chronicling his life of addiction and petty crime in the late 60's, I think. He thankfully transcended that lifestyle, though, and the last book he wrote before dying in 2017- the beautiful "The Largesse of The Sea Maiden" is exceptional.
    Harry Crews is another hot one. " The Knock out Artist" about an ex boxer who retires and goes on to earn money by knocking himself out with a single punch to the face is a wild and windy ride.

  • hendrixfreak
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    This forum is triggering my CD and book buying....

    and that's not a complaint. Okay, I'll go for Carolyn Cassady's book and the 1926 Jack Black. So to this literature list I must add a few:

    The Big Con: The Story of the Confidence Man by David W. Mauer (inside look from 1940 on how hustlers of every stripe fleeced their marks, from the late 1800s to 1940)

    Lowlife: Lures and Snares of Old New York by Luc Sante (1991) More than you want to know about the underclass in NYC, from pimps and whores to rogue police to grog shop druggings/robbings. The goods.

    Both are meticulously documented nonfiction. And if you have the stomach for the very nastiest fiction, try

    Last Exit to Brooklyn by Hubert Selby Jr. (1957). Indescribable, the prose is tough as nails. Horrifying in parts, downright disgusting in others. Highly recommended....

  • Oroborous
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    We’ve got the beat

    As I said, I spent a little time on the (beat) mountain.
    As is often the case, On The Road was my gateway drug to the beats via the Dead! I’ve Read much of but not all Kerouac. And now have a bunch more “new” stuff I’ve not read yet. It’s been so many moons ago and my reading comprehension perhaps was not as good, so it might have been me, but a lot of Jacks writing can be tough. He unfortunately at times could really wallow in the mire. As the years passed, and the alcohol took hold, he wasn’t the same young enthusiastic Sal Paradise most know and love. But there are also so many fine writings! Just Gotta Poke Around!
    My favs above and beyond OTR are: Dharma Bums, the parts of Desolation Angels that involves the former, and a book of short Stories called Lonesome Traveler. Gary Snyder is awesome, but alas I’m not much of a poetry guy : (
    I have several bios, but have not read them all yet. Our boy McNally’s Desolate Angel is very good, Angel headed Hipster by Turner, Subterranean Kerouac by Amburn, The Awakener by Helen Weaver, Jacks Book by Gifford, and Memory Babe by Nicosia, which some consider THE JK book, but since it came to me late in life I have not read it yet. In fact so much stuff from and about Jack has come round in later years and unfortunately their just collecting dust since Ive been more inclined to read other things. I often get really deep into a topic, then move on. But hopefully some day I’ll get the beat bug again.
    There are some good “letters” books too that give more insight to the actual people behind the characters and are interesting snap shots of life in mid century America.
    Carolyn Cassady’s Off the Road is another excellent inside look, but from a much different perspective. along with Women of the Beat Generation by Knight.

    The Holy Goof is good, but I think I liked The Cassady Issue of the great Spit In the Ocean series the best!
    Mucho cool stuff in those Spit in the Ocean issues! The Fast Life of a Beat Hero I think is good? Cant remember but I have it so? The First Third is more about little Neal and the sometimes incredible, but often horrible, eye opening experiences of his youth than the Angel Headed Hipster he became. He always aspired to be a writer and having the big time writer friends he had, you could say things rubbed off on him. He also worked very hard on his writing, so it’s not as I say A book to judge by its author! Some of Jacks portraits of his own child hood are also some favorite JK writings. Again, interesting looks into sort of working class mid century American life.

    As much as I dig psychedelic Neal 2.0 and all his influence on the scene and his Herculean feats with the pranksters et el, I prefer early beat Neal, Dean Moriarty, I think of Dean Moriarty…

    It’s been so long etc, but I have read some Burroughs and Ginsberg etc, but I’ve never been a big poetry person, and Burroughs can be a bit too out there, but I loved reading a ton of Jack, and anything by or about Neal.
    OTR and more so Dharma Bums literally changed my life in my twenties! Must Reads imho.

  • proudfoot
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    Hearing 9/18/74 for the first time in a while

    Mighty tasty

    One of the first shows I ever heard on cassette back in the day

    I called my friend and said "more Dead!"

  • nappyrags
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    Oh...and another is...

    "The Beat Hotel: Ginsberg, Burroughs & Corso in Paris, 1957-1963" by Barry Miles...had a blast reading this ...have his Zappa bio in storage somewhere....damn books....

  • nappyrags
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    before Neal Cassidy, before…

    before Neal Cassidy, before Herbert Huncke, there was Jack Black who wrote "You Can't Win" published in 1926...his autobiography details his life as a petty criminal and dealing with "straight society"....

  • daverock
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    The First Third etc

    HF/Oro - that's good to know. I have read around "The First Third" in a way, without ever actually coming across the book itself. I have a copy of "The Collected Correspondence of Allen Ginsberg and Neal Cassady", here, that has letters in it between the two people from the 1940s-1960s. I will definitely dip into that again before the summer is done. And I read Carolyn Cassady's "Off The Road" when that came out some 30 years ago.

    The best holiday of my life was in 1990 when we went on a tour of the West Coast-my one and only visit to America. We only spent two days in San Francisco, and spent the time alternately doing what me and my girlfriend chose to do. Us having little in common. As San Francisco meant more to me than it did her, I had first shout - and off to City Lights book shop we went. Among others, I got a biography of Neal called "The Holy Goof", by someone I had never heard of at the time and have never heard of since, called William Plummer. Like the other books I have just mentioned, I have never read it since, but I thought it was great at the time.

    And when I got back home, there was a letter ( or maybe "Spiral Light", I forget) on my doorstep, telling me The Dead were playing Wembley that October. 1990 was like my 1960s.

  • bluecrow
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    way deep

    Oro and HF - you are guys are so deep in the catalog. I'm amazed. Feeling out of the know for sure on works like the First Third. so yeah, way back in late high school it was On The Road, of course, that opened my mind. But out of that scene it was Gary Snyder (Dharma Bums, Japhy Ryder,) that ended up having the most profound affect. Still someone I turn to time and again. Riprap and Cold Mountain Poems is foundational (Migration of Birds!) and then there is the Smokey the Bear Sutra.

    Ginsberg also, of course.

  • Oroborous
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    I’m with HF

    The First Third is mos def better than one might be inclined to assume. “Don’t let the glasses fool ya” oh, wait, that’s Bromberg, ahem, aaaa, how bout, don’t judge a book by its author!

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One more Saturday night at Winterland! Yes, we're back to home base for DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 42, the complete show from Winterland, San Francisco, 2/23/74. The one that featured the earliest amalgamation of what would soon become the Wall of Sound, the one that is so "loud, clear, and defined," it's been ripe for release for quite some time and we're glad it's finally getting its due.

First set or second, there are no wrong answers here. From the unique show opener of Chuck Berry's "Around And Around" and an incredible "Here Comes Sunshine" that would then disappear for 18 years, to a medley of WAKE OF THE FLOOD tracks - "Row Jimmy," "Weather Report Suite," and "Stella Blue" - cementing their status in the canon and an unstoppable hour through the classic 1973-1974 Dead that is “He’s Gone”>“Truckin’”>“Drums”>“The Other One”>“Eyes Of The World,” it's all exceptionally hot.

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 42: WINTERLAND, SAN FRANCISCO, 2/23/74 was recorded by Kidd Candelario and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. Grab a copy while you can.

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When mine got sent back we checked with the PO and they said it only had the physical address info, not the PO Box.
So for whatever reason the label wasn’t printed the same/correctly? It seemed like knowing that helped Rhino?
Like you, I’ve not had other issues. Fingers crossed it hasn’t happened since. Good Luck amigo!

Oh, is that avatar a Chork? Are you into Leftover Salmon? Played in a band called Wave Mountain Riders BITD. We had an original song called Chork: about being on Salmon tour and what happens when ya mate a pig and a chicken! Fun stuff lol, your avatar brought back fond memories!

....waiting for the mail carrier.
Playing disc 2 of Boxillas Cape Cod '79 offering.
You know whats on it.
My anticipation is high.
Edit. Leftover Salmon gets my nod. Great band.
Govt Mule and Los Lobos coming here soon.

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DP 42 and DP vol 1 Vinyl, the eagle has landed. I must say Dr. Rhino at customer service is the man or woman! Not easy dealing with crazy deadheads, but he or she is a whisperer!!

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I’m glad to hear your experiences have been positive, too.

My avatar is a “Buster” in reference to the song by my favorite working band, moe.

What the hell. That was a terrible first round draw for our beloved Leafs.

I know I said the Lighting won’t win three times in a row, but they’ve got a way better goalie. We may be looking at another first round exit. If they don’t win game one tonight that really puts the pressure on them. Good luck.

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....good to see.
Because, "music is indeed the best".
Especially when it's '74 GOGD.
It's baseball season here AJS. Lol.
Calgary is gonna ruin your day.

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Vguy 72 before I even ripped in 42!! at he's gone as I write this, Just beautiful! God bless the Grateful Dead and God bless Vinyl!

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Check pm

"It really was no miracle
What happened was just this..."

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I’m just waiting on the puck drop now. A big “Gulp” going against Tampa Bay, but I think this is Auston Matthews’ year.
Regardless, the playoffs are the best, and always plenty rough! Love it!
Deep breath….

(PS - I’m glad 42 is landing yonder and hither. Here is hoping those ole shipping blues are of another time.)

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Really stupid penalty, but it seems to have energized the Leafs. They had more SOG than Tampa during the PK.

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Breathing…just breathing…

(Clifford doth sucketh for such a stupid penalty!)

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But those were some pretty weak penalty calls against Tampa

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Normally I would say the game is over, but this is the Leafs.

Is anyone else having issues with the audio feed? On my broadcast, the audio is almost a full second ahead of the video. Really annoying.

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This Auston Matthews is something else. A kid that grew up in Arizona may be the best Toronto Maple Leaf I’ve ever seen in 60+ years watching.

Note to self: Must order new Garcia release. Expectations are muted, as there has been so many Keystone releases to date in both series, all his bands, so I’m expecting more of the same loose arrangements, and fun playing, with no surprises.

....aww. Phil laying it down.
Like a warm blanket.
Lemme get up in there. Thanks.
Edit.
That Big River raised both eyebrows.
That's what I'm talking about.
Slam dunk. It really doesn't get much better.
Had to shift down to Ramble-On.
Some gears were ground, but the foot found the clutch eventually.
Sounds awesome.
This is what we pay for.

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....I've caught at least 2 slipknot references....there are several runs Jerry makes in The Other One where he is clearly playing the primordial riff.

There is another brief moment another reference gets made toward the beginning of the Playin jam on the bonus disc.

Ears are astute, and will remain perk'd.

Now back to your regularly scheduled GD sammich of choice.

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Pretty good game there eh!
Yassss Clifford went a little over the top, but it got em fired up!

Let’s hope it’s not just one game where the Bolts were sleeping, but now they get woke after getting spanked!

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For those who still depend on the Pony Express to get our Dave's Picks...

How is the sound, and how does it compare to Dave's Picks 13 (one of my fav's)

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Wow. Evidently, the USPS has the ability to travel time!

Checked my DaP shipping progress this morning at about 7:30am. The website showed that at 5:30am, the shipment was in my city’s post office. (Yay!)

BUT it also showed that at 7:41am (ten minutes in the future!) it would materialize in San Leandro, CA, about 80 miles away. AND at 11:41am (more than four hours into the future) it would leave there. WTF?

So, I think we can conclude that either a) the postal service is capable of manipulating time and space or b) those tracking details are complete bullshit.

Ah well. Either way I'll probably get the DaP this week.

I finally found a show I am willing to attend

George Clinton and P-Funk

July 28

Maybe Daves will arrive today
Pleeeease

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DAP 13 has been one of my faves as well along with the 73 UCLA show as far as audio goes. This release is just a pleasing to my ear as #13. To me the pedal effects (especially Phil's) are extra meaty and dynamic to my ears a nice example are the Moog effects (sounds like they are Moog anyway) in HCS jams. Dare I say I like the audio dynamics more so than on 13?! Very nice release. Pleasure to listen to for sure.

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04/25 Order information received by UPS
04/26 Shipping mail received
05/03 Package received for processing in Fontana

It looks like it might be delivered this year.

...but how much will it cost? I'd forgotten about those three letters, USP, for a while, but coming on here, and seeing them typed out it all came rushing back. I went to check my bank statements, to see if they ever paid me back for the money they overcharged me for delivering the box in October. And they did - £32.59 paid back to me in March. I had to be firm with them, as I recall. Firm and persistent.. but fair, I like to think.

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Luckily Dave's Picks are sent by Mail Innovations. This means that UPS pass the parcel to USPS. It is USPS who ship it across the pond and give it to the national customs authority. The local customs then ask for payment of VAT and administrative costs and subsequently pass the goods on to the national postal service who deliver it to your door.
When it comes to box sets then the whole process is carried out by UPS with all their ineptitude and mistakes which, as we have experienced, can result in huge costs that have no basis in fact or law. It is a long and frustrating task to sort out their mess and get ones money back.
I can understand that our pals in the US of A prefer UPS to USPS but they don't have to deal with customs etc.

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The Me and Bobby Mcgee highlights how they were just learning how to use the microphones for the wall of sound. If they backed up a bit and instead of singing into the top mic they were singing into to both with the lower mic being out of phase, then the vocal signal canceled out. Fascinating to hear the learning in progress.

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DaP 42 showed up in the mail today. I immediately ripped it and loaded it into iTunes. I took Dave's advise and built a playlist with the Bonus Disc, DaP 13 and DaP 42 (in that order). Listening to (and enjoying it) right now!

Simonrob-yes, I don't remember paying excess charges for the last Daves Picks I ordered. Just the box.
With the box they told me that it had been classified as containing items of clothing-which for some reason are taxed more heavily than cds. That was just what one person said though-it seems a very random process.

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I don't know JJC. It sounds like they all fade out and fade back in at the same time as if there's something else going on.

JiminMD tough ti say. I am a few songs in and overall things sound good, but some bits sound distorted or overdriven. This could just be the sound people getting the beginning of the show straightened out. But I would say so far it goes to Dave's Picks 13. Just starting Sugaree.

Jerry sounds good. That's all I care about :-)

Count me among the minority, but I love my USPS. UPS can suck my kiss. In the end USPS bring my shit, ups takes forever to hand off to them, but once they have,,,, I usually get same day.

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Came yesterday, took to work and played. Sounded great there.

Home now and listening on headphones.

Great recording!!!

Not a Here Comes Sunshine expert, but this one sounds great. AND I have NOT heard anyone talking,,,,, AMEN :-)

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Glad you have good luck with these clowns.
Mine has followed its usual route: passing within a mile and a half of my house, and a quarter mile of the PO, twice! Once going to Denver, then all the way back across the state to GJ. So now it’ll be another day to come halfway back across the state again. Yeeesshhk, hey, as long as it gets here : )

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The Bonus Disc pic would make a GREAT sheet of blotter!!!

AM I RIGHT? CAN I GET AN AMEN?

also,,,, I surprised the glass hasn't sold out yet,,,, guess the "love of the glass" is over.

Time to bring back the axe!!! (givem the axe, the axe, the axe, the axe. right in the neck, right in the neck, right in the neck)

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Like Bill Cosby said,,,,,, "just a little snakie lick"

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Dennis, I haven't heard a reference to that Cosby album in maybe 40 years! Fantastic! .... SNAKES ... you get outta here!!! I will not comment on the whole Cosby saga, but WILL say that I enjoyed the Playboy Jazz Festival at the Hollywood Bowl for 15+ years (hosted by the Cos) ....

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no email, no tracking number, no bread in the breadbox. Sure hope this is not the one that gets "lost in the mail".

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