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    One more Saturday night at Winterland! Yes, we're back to home base for DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 42, the complete show from Winterland, San Francisco, 2/23/74. The one that featured the earliest amalgamation of what would soon become the Wall of Sound, the one that is so "loud, clear, and defined," it's been ripe for release for quite some time and we're glad it's finally getting its due.

    First set or second, there are no wrong answers here. From the unique show opener of Chuck Berry's "Around And Around" and an incredible "Here Comes Sunshine" that would then disappear for 18 years, to a medley of WAKE OF THE FLOOD tracks - "Row Jimmy," "Weather Report Suite," and "Stella Blue" - cementing their status in the canon and an unstoppable hour through the classic 1973-1974 Dead that is “He’s Gone”>“Truckin’”>“Drums”>“The Other One”>“Eyes Of The World,” it's all exceptionally hot.

    Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 42: WINTERLAND, SAN FRANCISCO, 2/23/74 was recorded by Kidd Candelario and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. Grab a copy while you can.

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    Let's bring back......

    MUATM

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    Dooooood, MY mind is scary??

    Oro, you wrote "they’d hunt Dave down like a dog, tie him up, spread peanut butter all over him, and put him out to sea as live bait!"

    I don't even know what kind of counselor you need. Animal cruelty? Food fetishes? Latent fishing needs? Detox? Retox? Or a new TV show: "Shark Week: The Peanut Butter Incident."

    Or ... a box announcement. Gawd, I'm obviously stuck on Dave's casual remark that "a fall '72 box has to happen." Made years ago... But I'll take the "primal box" and go away quietly to my corner. Anyday.

    I'll second your emotion on '77 and extend that to '78. Which might get us to '79, a relatively untouched year. And that leads me to bang the gong again on 8-12-79 at the Rocks. (Still working out the aftermath of that Purple Dragon...)

    If TPTB look to these threads to see what "we" want, they need counseling, too.

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    Double dippin’

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    Whoa, scary place in there lol. ; )
    Well HF, you certainly are tenacious if nothing else lol.
    You would think fall 72 would be the last thing they’d go with, which is exactly why it wouldn’t surprise me!
    But yes, someday you’d think they’d do something from then?

    I don’t think we’re getting an 80s dat box yet as they still have plenty of ABCD Beatty’s etc that need return on the investment. I think/hope we might get something for DaP, but not a box, unless there’s other quality tapes we don’t know about ala Giants? Plus you old “sweet spot” bastards would either suffer widespread strokes, causing a massive class action suit, or they’d hunt Dave down like a dog, tie him up, spread peanut butter all over him, and put him out to sea as live bait! As much as I personally would love an 80s box: Summer 85, 81, 82 for example, I don’t see that happening soon?

    Spring 78 has a big batch of good shows complete in the vault that would make a good medium size box. Think a big one would be too repetitive?

    Still have a whole bunch of 73, including some real high profile summer shows. You’d think they’d unleash that next year, but they seem to purposely avoid anniversaries. This year seems due, but perhaps since it took so long for PNW to sell out (which still puzzles me?) who knows? Maybe next year they’ll give us a Dave’s, and a stand alone ala Dozin, Nightfall, or Rockin’ the Rhine? They used to do more of those, wonder why not anymore?

    Still a bunch of 89 multitracks including some stellar fall shows!!

    If they were going to new territory, fall 91 is perhaps the one consistently good tour left. But I don’t think we’re there yet?

    Still some summer 76 territory but for various reasons you wouldn’t think he’d go back there just yet?

    Could still cobble some 77, and I could list specifics, but don’t want to influence anyone as personally, I’ve had enough 77 at least until we get stuff that we haven’t yet. Sorry, no offense ment to you 77 lovers. It’s just getting to where we have so much from like 4 or 5 years, and little to nothing from others!

    Of course the big psychedelic elephant in the room is a Primal 66-70 box. I think this might have a shot, at least if they listen to us at all? Though there may not be a lot of usable tapes, you’d have to think that with how much they played and how much tape rolled, there has to be enough usable stuff for a taste of 66 and 67, more 68 single disc shows, say a show or 2 from early 69, something from later 69 to show their progression, and something ? from 70?
    I think this is the way to do primal, as quantity, quality, and mucho repetition could make going with just one year for example, difficult?

    I think these are the biggest, most obvious holes, but certainly there are other possibilities depending on format etc.
    in fact I’m sure someone will suggest something else immediately after I post this lol. One thing DHs do not lack is opinions!

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    Naturally, I also cannot recall what else they put out last year, besides Listen and the DaP series. At least we know that they've been busy this year with the E72 anniversary releases. Thus, a box announcement later this summer makes sense.

    The most logical/illogical release possible this year would be fall '72. With last year's box and this year's E72 celebration, they'd be nuts to go with fall '72. And yet, if they're focused on a hot seller, that'd be a sure winner. However, after the Listen box and that double '87 DaP, I predicted this year's box would be '80s DATs. Maybe instead of a location-based focus like St. Louis, they go with another run of shows across a tour, with locations varied.

    Please continue with your regular programming while I squirm and contort (in my mind, peoples, in my mind!) over the mystery box. I used to be the guy counseling patience and here's how that turned out...

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    head over to the Ride Board thread in the forums. Use that search box (probably at the top right) to find the thread.
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    Nick - cheers. It's only a few quid more on Amazon. A remarkable film, too. With the kabuki makeup and totemic presence of Mick Ronson, it put me in mid of David Bowie's performances circa 1972-73 a bit. I don't know what they would have made of it at the Newport Folk Festival. Dylan's performance seems quite shamanic - as reflected in Anne Waldman's poem in the excellent book included with the disc.
    I think it will be a toss up between this cd box and The Complete Motown Singles 1968 for my next purchase.

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    ATTENTION NITECAT

    Attention NITECAT, please check your pm.

    In response to BTK, ANY 1970 release would be welcome, but I'm not sure the June FW run would make a great box set. Yes of course it has it's peaks, but it has some deep valleys as well. That beings said, I would buy it!!

    Just one doc's opinion...........

    Rock on,

    Doc
    The function of memory is not only to preserve, but also to throw away........

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    Boy, this would sure make a nice box set.

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    Last year LTTR was announced on 7/21 and released on 10/1/2021.

    We probably have a while.

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One more Saturday night at Winterland! Yes, we're back to home base for DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 42, the complete show from Winterland, San Francisco, 2/23/74. The one that featured the earliest amalgamation of what would soon become the Wall of Sound, the one that is so "loud, clear, and defined," it's been ripe for release for quite some time and we're glad it's finally getting its due.

First set or second, there are no wrong answers here. From the unique show opener of Chuck Berry's "Around And Around" and an incredible "Here Comes Sunshine" that would then disappear for 18 years, to a medley of WAKE OF THE FLOOD tracks - "Row Jimmy," "Weather Report Suite," and "Stella Blue" - cementing their status in the canon and an unstoppable hour through the classic 1973-1974 Dead that is “He’s Gone”>“Truckin’”>“Drums”>“The Other One”>“Eyes Of The World,” it's all exceptionally hot.

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 42: WINTERLAND, SAN FRANCISCO, 2/23/74 was recorded by Kidd Candelario and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. Grab a copy while you can.

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When mine got sent back we checked with the PO and they said it only had the physical address info, not the PO Box.
So for whatever reason the label wasn’t printed the same/correctly? It seemed like knowing that helped Rhino?
Like you, I’ve not had other issues. Fingers crossed it hasn’t happened since. Good Luck amigo!

Oh, is that avatar a Chork? Are you into Leftover Salmon? Played in a band called Wave Mountain Riders BITD. We had an original song called Chork: about being on Salmon tour and what happens when ya mate a pig and a chicken! Fun stuff lol, your avatar brought back fond memories!

....waiting for the mail carrier.
Playing disc 2 of Boxillas Cape Cod '79 offering.
You know whats on it.
My anticipation is high.
Edit. Leftover Salmon gets my nod. Great band.
Govt Mule and Los Lobos coming here soon.

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DP 42 and DP vol 1 Vinyl, the eagle has landed. I must say Dr. Rhino at customer service is the man or woman! Not easy dealing with crazy deadheads, but he or she is a whisperer!!

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I’m glad to hear your experiences have been positive, too.

My avatar is a “Buster” in reference to the song by my favorite working band, moe.

What the hell. That was a terrible first round draw for our beloved Leafs.

I know I said the Lighting won’t win three times in a row, but they’ve got a way better goalie. We may be looking at another first round exit. If they don’t win game one tonight that really puts the pressure on them. Good luck.

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....good to see.
Because, "music is indeed the best".
Especially when it's '74 GOGD.
It's baseball season here AJS. Lol.
Calgary is gonna ruin your day.

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Vguy 72 before I even ripped in 42!! at he's gone as I write this, Just beautiful! God bless the Grateful Dead and God bless Vinyl!

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Check pm

"It really was no miracle
What happened was just this..."

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I’m just waiting on the puck drop now. A big “Gulp” going against Tampa Bay, but I think this is Auston Matthews’ year.
Regardless, the playoffs are the best, and always plenty rough! Love it!
Deep breath….

(PS - I’m glad 42 is landing yonder and hither. Here is hoping those ole shipping blues are of another time.)

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Really stupid penalty, but it seems to have energized the Leafs. They had more SOG than Tampa during the PK.

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Breathing…just breathing…

(Clifford doth sucketh for such a stupid penalty!)

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But those were some pretty weak penalty calls against Tampa

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Normally I would say the game is over, but this is the Leafs.

Is anyone else having issues with the audio feed? On my broadcast, the audio is almost a full second ahead of the video. Really annoying.

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This Auston Matthews is something else. A kid that grew up in Arizona may be the best Toronto Maple Leaf I’ve ever seen in 60+ years watching.

Note to self: Must order new Garcia release. Expectations are muted, as there has been so many Keystone releases to date in both series, all his bands, so I’m expecting more of the same loose arrangements, and fun playing, with no surprises.

....aww. Phil laying it down.
Like a warm blanket.
Lemme get up in there. Thanks.
Edit.
That Big River raised both eyebrows.
That's what I'm talking about.
Slam dunk. It really doesn't get much better.
Had to shift down to Ramble-On.
Some gears were ground, but the foot found the clutch eventually.
Sounds awesome.
This is what we pay for.

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....I've caught at least 2 slipknot references....there are several runs Jerry makes in The Other One where he is clearly playing the primordial riff.

There is another brief moment another reference gets made toward the beginning of the Playin jam on the bonus disc.

Ears are astute, and will remain perk'd.

Now back to your regularly scheduled GD sammich of choice.

Sixtus

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Pretty good game there eh!
Yassss Clifford went a little over the top, but it got em fired up!

Let’s hope it’s not just one game where the Bolts were sleeping, but now they get woke after getting spanked!

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For those who still depend on the Pony Express to get our Dave's Picks...

How is the sound, and how does it compare to Dave's Picks 13 (one of my fav's)

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Wow. Evidently, the USPS has the ability to travel time!

Checked my DaP shipping progress this morning at about 7:30am. The website showed that at 5:30am, the shipment was in my city’s post office. (Yay!)

BUT it also showed that at 7:41am (ten minutes in the future!) it would materialize in San Leandro, CA, about 80 miles away. AND at 11:41am (more than four hours into the future) it would leave there. WTF?

So, I think we can conclude that either a) the postal service is capable of manipulating time and space or b) those tracking details are complete bullshit.

Ah well. Either way I'll probably get the DaP this week.

I finally found a show I am willing to attend

George Clinton and P-Funk

July 28

Maybe Daves will arrive today
Pleeeease

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DAP 13 has been one of my faves as well along with the 73 UCLA show as far as audio goes. This release is just a pleasing to my ear as #13. To me the pedal effects (especially Phil's) are extra meaty and dynamic to my ears a nice example are the Moog effects (sounds like they are Moog anyway) in HCS jams. Dare I say I like the audio dynamics more so than on 13?! Very nice release. Pleasure to listen to for sure.

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04/25 Order information received by UPS
04/26 Shipping mail received
05/03 Package received for processing in Fontana

It looks like it might be delivered this year.

...but how much will it cost? I'd forgotten about those three letters, USP, for a while, but coming on here, and seeing them typed out it all came rushing back. I went to check my bank statements, to see if they ever paid me back for the money they overcharged me for delivering the box in October. And they did - £32.59 paid back to me in March. I had to be firm with them, as I recall. Firm and persistent.. but fair, I like to think.

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Luckily Dave's Picks are sent by Mail Innovations. This means that UPS pass the parcel to USPS. It is USPS who ship it across the pond and give it to the national customs authority. The local customs then ask for payment of VAT and administrative costs and subsequently pass the goods on to the national postal service who deliver it to your door.
When it comes to box sets then the whole process is carried out by UPS with all their ineptitude and mistakes which, as we have experienced, can result in huge costs that have no basis in fact or law. It is a long and frustrating task to sort out their mess and get ones money back.
I can understand that our pals in the US of A prefer UPS to USPS but they don't have to deal with customs etc.

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The Me and Bobby Mcgee highlights how they were just learning how to use the microphones for the wall of sound. If they backed up a bit and instead of singing into the top mic they were singing into to both with the lower mic being out of phase, then the vocal signal canceled out. Fascinating to hear the learning in progress.

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DaP 42 showed up in the mail today. I immediately ripped it and loaded it into iTunes. I took Dave's advise and built a playlist with the Bonus Disc, DaP 13 and DaP 42 (in that order). Listening to (and enjoying it) right now!

Simonrob-yes, I don't remember paying excess charges for the last Daves Picks I ordered. Just the box.
With the box they told me that it had been classified as containing items of clothing-which for some reason are taxed more heavily than cds. That was just what one person said though-it seems a very random process.

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I don't know JJC. It sounds like they all fade out and fade back in at the same time as if there's something else going on.

JiminMD tough ti say. I am a few songs in and overall things sound good, but some bits sound distorted or overdriven. This could just be the sound people getting the beginning of the show straightened out. But I would say so far it goes to Dave's Picks 13. Just starting Sugaree.

Jerry sounds good. That's all I care about :-)

Count me among the minority, but I love my USPS. UPS can suck my kiss. In the end USPS bring my shit, ups takes forever to hand off to them, but once they have,,,, I usually get same day.

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Came yesterday, took to work and played. Sounded great there.

Home now and listening on headphones.

Great recording!!!

Not a Here Comes Sunshine expert, but this one sounds great. AND I have NOT heard anyone talking,,,,, AMEN :-)

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Glad you have good luck with these clowns.
Mine has followed its usual route: passing within a mile and a half of my house, and a quarter mile of the PO, twice! Once going to Denver, then all the way back across the state to GJ. So now it’ll be another day to come halfway back across the state again. Yeeesshhk, hey, as long as it gets here : )

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The Bonus Disc pic would make a GREAT sheet of blotter!!!

AM I RIGHT? CAN I GET AN AMEN?

also,,,, I surprised the glass hasn't sold out yet,,,, guess the "love of the glass" is over.

Time to bring back the axe!!! (givem the axe, the axe, the axe, the axe. right in the neck, right in the neck, right in the neck)

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Like Bill Cosby said,,,,,, "just a little snakie lick"

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Dennis, I haven't heard a reference to that Cosby album in maybe 40 years! Fantastic! .... SNAKES ... you get outta here!!! I will not comment on the whole Cosby saga, but WILL say that I enjoyed the Playboy Jazz Festival at the Hollywood Bowl for 15+ years (hosted by the Cos) ....

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no email, no tracking number, no bread in the breadbox. Sure hope this is not the one that gets "lost in the mail".

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