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    One more Saturday night at Winterland! Yes, we're back to home base for DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 42, the complete show from Winterland, San Francisco, 2/23/74. The one that featured the earliest amalgamation of what would soon become the Wall of Sound, the one that is so "loud, clear, and defined," it's been ripe for release for quite some time and we're glad it's finally getting its due.

    First set or second, there are no wrong answers here. From the unique show opener of Chuck Berry's "Around And Around" and an incredible "Here Comes Sunshine" that would then disappear for 18 years, to a medley of WAKE OF THE FLOOD tracks - "Row Jimmy," "Weather Report Suite," and "Stella Blue" - cementing their status in the canon and an unstoppable hour through the classic 1973-1974 Dead that is “He’s Gone”>“Truckin’”>“Drums”>“The Other One”>“Eyes Of The World,” it's all exceptionally hot.

    Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 42: WINTERLAND, SAN FRANCISCO, 2/23/74 was recorded by Kidd Candelario and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. Grab a copy while you can.

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  • Oroborous
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    Berry interesting. Another awesome box that has not had proper love!
    I need to carve out some time this summer and reacquaint, especially the 11th, hmmmm, that number 11 again lol.
    Agree on 76 evolution etc. Really is yet another interesting transitional period, and another that amazes me how many consider it fly by territory? To each their own I guess…

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    ....funny you've mentioned 7/18/76 - I, too have an excellent bootleg CD of this show and it is indeed a WHOPPER! The sheer ins 'n outs of songs during that second set is truly magical. It's outstanding.

    As for my favs in all 'O 76, I was OVER THE MOON when the June '76 box came out - it hit all of my sweet sweet spots, and in doing, so, included my all-time favorite show from '76: June 11th. I needn't go into excruciating detail on this one, it seems to speak for itself on many levels; but that second set is is just pure drippy bliss to these ears. The Eyes is, hands down, my all-time favorite. Fight me!

    But, that entire box is so outstanding and I really love the grooves they spew forth in that early part of the tour and then on into July. By the end of the summer, the sound is already starting to morph and get a bit more edge, which takes on an entirely different conversation and feel heading into '77.

    Thanks for inquiring Oro. Inquiring minds want to know.

    Be Well Peeps!
    Sixtus

  • hendrixfreak
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    Here we go again: I have an idea!

    The PNW box was rightly hailed for showcasing the band's development in '71 to '73, major years of evolution in setlists and style.

    And we assume, probably correctly, that vault tapes for the earlier years are fairly scarce. Taking up the spirit of the PNW box, an even greater illustration of band development would be to issue a modest box containing one show each from 1966 to 1970, the first five years leading into the 71-73 period of growth. The '66, '67 and '68 shows might well be one disc, two discs each for '69 and '70. Beef it up with a lengthy '68 show or two-show curated output for '69 and '70. Or pad it with partial shows that will never be complete. Ten discs and a booklet for $100. Make it limited edition if necessary.

    Screw the fetishization of anniversaries and just do it. One show each from the slender stock of '66-'70 won't kill future notions of other uses. (And what "other uses" can anyone imagine? Shows from the first five years don't exactly scream potential release as "Dave's Picks" due to length.)

    Yet another brilliant idea from HF that may never happen. But it's worth considering....

  • proudfoot
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    7/12/76
    7/13/76
    7/14/76
    7/16/76
    7/18/76
    yeah
    (7/17/76 already released...)

    I looked yesterday and saw that the Avs were up 3-1 at the end of second period. I am surprised the Blues came back. in Colorado.

    Sports...

  • Oroborous
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    The 18th is the shizzle, but selfishly I hope they don’t release it soon as I have a great bootleg copy on CD, so would rather have something released we don’t have lol I got a tape of that one very early in my development and I’ve always loved the energy and turn on a dime segways on that one. Perhaps my favorite 76 show?
    Ha, great question for Sixtus: what’s yer favorite 76 show?

    EDIT: I’ve not heard the 13th. Consider radar fully pegged!

  • Oroborous
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    Me too AJ

    I’ve been pretty relaxed throughout the playoffs so far, but third period last night I started getting the fear.
    Actually started getting unsettled before that since all the broadcasters etc were acting like it was already over.
    Now being a Buffalo Loser for sixty years has made me a tad superstitious. See the last Bills game for reference, ahem. So it makes me extremely uncomfortable when they do that. By the end of the game everyone was acting like it was over: the press, the crowd, the AVs, everyone except the Blues!
    But the thing that really signaled code red was the increasing sloppy play in the AVs own zone. As the Blues started scoring/catching up, they seemed to become extremely energized, like folks fighting for thier life will do. At the same time most of the AVs seemed to ? Can’t really describe but the result was increased sloppy play and worse, scary turnovers in their zone. This seems like their Achilles heel throughout the playoffs?
    When McKinnon got the hat trick it was a slight relief, but I actually said to the other half, that I was worried this isn’t over because of the above. Sure enough, they tied er up and now it’s a whole new game.
    I told her at the start of OT if they keep coughing up the puck their gonna lose…
    I felt really bad for McKinnon after having such an amazing game. That ridiculous third goal was old school magic ala Gilbert Perrault, beauty eh! But one player does not a team make!
    So now you have an extremely capable and energized Blues team, heading back home where the fans will be jacked like Casey Jones himself, and perhaps an AVs team with internal noise In their heads, which all makes me like a dog that knows he’s going to the vet! No Bueno!
    Hopefully some of the folks who’ve been quiet in this series will step up because If they don’t git er done in game 6 I think the Blues might win the series.
    Hope this 20 year curse doesn’t turn into a fifty year one like our poor bastard friends from the North. ; )

    And talk about scary good, I’d say currently the Bolts are the team to beat! Not sure what to make of the other eastern series? You’d think Edmonton would learn from the AVs and nip that one in the bud tonight?

  • billy the kiddd
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    7/13/76, great show, time to release it, I was there. Those Orpeum tickets were hard to get, they went fast. The Orpheum only holds 1800 people. I saw Garcia play there a couple of times in the 80s.

  • proudfoot
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    I know 7 17 76 has been released
    But
    How 'bout others?
    Ever heard 7 16 76 first set?
    2nd set today...

    And whoever among us that advocated for MUATM return.. YEAH. Covid ish probably delayed it again this year

    But I will do my own MUATM in August

    Be kind to everyone today, my fellow Deadheads

  • Angry Jack Straw
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    That’s a really bad loss. Makes me nervous.

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    E72....DaP 42....DaP 1

    As usual, my listening sprint was derailed by the May Dave's Picks. I have managed to get the Dark Stars in. There is a cool Steve Hoffman Forum thread that has people analyzing all Dark Stars in great detail. A must for people who enjoy reading about the little nuances and time stamps when everything occurrs.

    E72 repeats. I find a lot of cool stuff from version to version on many of them. The longer jam songs are obviously worth the trip. But even the shoter tunes have subtle differences that make them great to get to know (most of them).

    This Dave's Picks is incredible to my ears. It's just a consistent dose of Dead all the way through with great sound and good mixing. Yeah, there are some audio anomalies here and there, but they're not too frequent. Billy is having a night of it. I've been including the Bonus Disc highlights within the main set, because I can't wait 4 or 5 hours for China Rider, Brown-Eyed Women, and Uncle John's Band. How does it compare with DaP 13? I can't tell you that...you couldn't afford me....

    Sixtus I also love DaP 1. Man, What I went through to get a copy of that. Some lommox on eBay sold me a burned copy for 40 bucks. What a dick. But I was desperate to hear what was so great about it, and I didn't have any '77 except the commercially available 5/28. So I basically had no exposure to the '77 machine. And it was so popular on eBay, I figured it was the Veneta of '77. It did not disappoint. Still has some if my all time favorites from that year. I think they play just about flawlessly, like a studio record, all the way upmto the backup chorus vocals. I still find it to have the most definitive Mississippi Half-Steps; doesn't have the jam you get with Englishtown, but that's what Englishtown is for. It's only weakness IMHO are the last two songs. Not really into post-hiatus Around And Around or Johnny B.

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One more Saturday night at Winterland! Yes, we're back to home base for DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 42, the complete show from Winterland, San Francisco, 2/23/74. The one that featured the earliest amalgamation of what would soon become the Wall of Sound, the one that is so "loud, clear, and defined," it's been ripe for release for quite some time and we're glad it's finally getting its due.

First set or second, there are no wrong answers here. From the unique show opener of Chuck Berry's "Around And Around" and an incredible "Here Comes Sunshine" that would then disappear for 18 years, to a medley of WAKE OF THE FLOOD tracks - "Row Jimmy," "Weather Report Suite," and "Stella Blue" - cementing their status in the canon and an unstoppable hour through the classic 1973-1974 Dead that is “He’s Gone”>“Truckin’”>“Drums”>“The Other One”>“Eyes Of The World,” it's all exceptionally hot.

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 42: WINTERLAND, SAN FRANCISCO, 2/23/74 was recorded by Kidd Candelario and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. Grab a copy while you can.

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When mine got sent back we checked with the PO and they said it only had the physical address info, not the PO Box.
So for whatever reason the label wasn’t printed the same/correctly? It seemed like knowing that helped Rhino?
Like you, I’ve not had other issues. Fingers crossed it hasn’t happened since. Good Luck amigo!

Oh, is that avatar a Chork? Are you into Leftover Salmon? Played in a band called Wave Mountain Riders BITD. We had an original song called Chork: about being on Salmon tour and what happens when ya mate a pig and a chicken! Fun stuff lol, your avatar brought back fond memories!

....waiting for the mail carrier.
Playing disc 2 of Boxillas Cape Cod '79 offering.
You know whats on it.
My anticipation is high.
Edit. Leftover Salmon gets my nod. Great band.
Govt Mule and Los Lobos coming here soon.

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DP 42 and DP vol 1 Vinyl, the eagle has landed. I must say Dr. Rhino at customer service is the man or woman! Not easy dealing with crazy deadheads, but he or she is a whisperer!!

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I’m glad to hear your experiences have been positive, too.

My avatar is a “Buster” in reference to the song by my favorite working band, moe.

What the hell. That was a terrible first round draw for our beloved Leafs.

I know I said the Lighting won’t win three times in a row, but they’ve got a way better goalie. We may be looking at another first round exit. If they don’t win game one tonight that really puts the pressure on them. Good luck.

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....good to see.
Because, "music is indeed the best".
Especially when it's '74 GOGD.
It's baseball season here AJS. Lol.
Calgary is gonna ruin your day.

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Vguy 72 before I even ripped in 42!! at he's gone as I write this, Just beautiful! God bless the Grateful Dead and God bless Vinyl!

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Check pm

"It really was no miracle
What happened was just this..."

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I’m just waiting on the puck drop now. A big “Gulp” going against Tampa Bay, but I think this is Auston Matthews’ year.
Regardless, the playoffs are the best, and always plenty rough! Love it!
Deep breath….

(PS - I’m glad 42 is landing yonder and hither. Here is hoping those ole shipping blues are of another time.)

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Really stupid penalty, but it seems to have energized the Leafs. They had more SOG than Tampa during the PK.

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Breathing…just breathing…

(Clifford doth sucketh for such a stupid penalty!)

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But those were some pretty weak penalty calls against Tampa

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Normally I would say the game is over, but this is the Leafs.

Is anyone else having issues with the audio feed? On my broadcast, the audio is almost a full second ahead of the video. Really annoying.

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This Auston Matthews is something else. A kid that grew up in Arizona may be the best Toronto Maple Leaf I’ve ever seen in 60+ years watching.

Note to self: Must order new Garcia release. Expectations are muted, as there has been so many Keystone releases to date in both series, all his bands, so I’m expecting more of the same loose arrangements, and fun playing, with no surprises.

....aww. Phil laying it down.
Like a warm blanket.
Lemme get up in there. Thanks.
Edit.
That Big River raised both eyebrows.
That's what I'm talking about.
Slam dunk. It really doesn't get much better.
Had to shift down to Ramble-On.
Some gears were ground, but the foot found the clutch eventually.
Sounds awesome.
This is what we pay for.

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....I've caught at least 2 slipknot references....there are several runs Jerry makes in The Other One where he is clearly playing the primordial riff.

There is another brief moment another reference gets made toward the beginning of the Playin jam on the bonus disc.

Ears are astute, and will remain perk'd.

Now back to your regularly scheduled GD sammich of choice.

Sixtus

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Pretty good game there eh!
Yassss Clifford went a little over the top, but it got em fired up!

Let’s hope it’s not just one game where the Bolts were sleeping, but now they get woke after getting spanked!

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For those who still depend on the Pony Express to get our Dave's Picks...

How is the sound, and how does it compare to Dave's Picks 13 (one of my fav's)

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Wow. Evidently, the USPS has the ability to travel time!

Checked my DaP shipping progress this morning at about 7:30am. The website showed that at 5:30am, the shipment was in my city’s post office. (Yay!)

BUT it also showed that at 7:41am (ten minutes in the future!) it would materialize in San Leandro, CA, about 80 miles away. AND at 11:41am (more than four hours into the future) it would leave there. WTF?

So, I think we can conclude that either a) the postal service is capable of manipulating time and space or b) those tracking details are complete bullshit.

Ah well. Either way I'll probably get the DaP this week.

I finally found a show I am willing to attend

George Clinton and P-Funk

July 28

Maybe Daves will arrive today
Pleeeease

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DAP 13 has been one of my faves as well along with the 73 UCLA show as far as audio goes. This release is just a pleasing to my ear as #13. To me the pedal effects (especially Phil's) are extra meaty and dynamic to my ears a nice example are the Moog effects (sounds like they are Moog anyway) in HCS jams. Dare I say I like the audio dynamics more so than on 13?! Very nice release. Pleasure to listen to for sure.

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04/25 Order information received by UPS
04/26 Shipping mail received
05/03 Package received for processing in Fontana

It looks like it might be delivered this year.

...but how much will it cost? I'd forgotten about those three letters, USP, for a while, but coming on here, and seeing them typed out it all came rushing back. I went to check my bank statements, to see if they ever paid me back for the money they overcharged me for delivering the box in October. And they did - £32.59 paid back to me in March. I had to be firm with them, as I recall. Firm and persistent.. but fair, I like to think.

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Luckily Dave's Picks are sent by Mail Innovations. This means that UPS pass the parcel to USPS. It is USPS who ship it across the pond and give it to the national customs authority. The local customs then ask for payment of VAT and administrative costs and subsequently pass the goods on to the national postal service who deliver it to your door.
When it comes to box sets then the whole process is carried out by UPS with all their ineptitude and mistakes which, as we have experienced, can result in huge costs that have no basis in fact or law. It is a long and frustrating task to sort out their mess and get ones money back.
I can understand that our pals in the US of A prefer UPS to USPS but they don't have to deal with customs etc.

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The Me and Bobby Mcgee highlights how they were just learning how to use the microphones for the wall of sound. If they backed up a bit and instead of singing into the top mic they were singing into to both with the lower mic being out of phase, then the vocal signal canceled out. Fascinating to hear the learning in progress.

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DaP 42 showed up in the mail today. I immediately ripped it and loaded it into iTunes. I took Dave's advise and built a playlist with the Bonus Disc, DaP 13 and DaP 42 (in that order). Listening to (and enjoying it) right now!

Simonrob-yes, I don't remember paying excess charges for the last Daves Picks I ordered. Just the box.
With the box they told me that it had been classified as containing items of clothing-which for some reason are taxed more heavily than cds. That was just what one person said though-it seems a very random process.

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I don't know JJC. It sounds like they all fade out and fade back in at the same time as if there's something else going on.

JiminMD tough ti say. I am a few songs in and overall things sound good, but some bits sound distorted or overdriven. This could just be the sound people getting the beginning of the show straightened out. But I would say so far it goes to Dave's Picks 13. Just starting Sugaree.

Jerry sounds good. That's all I care about :-)

Count me among the minority, but I love my USPS. UPS can suck my kiss. In the end USPS bring my shit, ups takes forever to hand off to them, but once they have,,,, I usually get same day.

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Came yesterday, took to work and played. Sounded great there.

Home now and listening on headphones.

Great recording!!!

Not a Here Comes Sunshine expert, but this one sounds great. AND I have NOT heard anyone talking,,,,, AMEN :-)

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Glad you have good luck with these clowns.
Mine has followed its usual route: passing within a mile and a half of my house, and a quarter mile of the PO, twice! Once going to Denver, then all the way back across the state to GJ. So now it’ll be another day to come halfway back across the state again. Yeeesshhk, hey, as long as it gets here : )

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The Bonus Disc pic would make a GREAT sheet of blotter!!!

AM I RIGHT? CAN I GET AN AMEN?

also,,,, I surprised the glass hasn't sold out yet,,,, guess the "love of the glass" is over.

Time to bring back the axe!!! (givem the axe, the axe, the axe, the axe. right in the neck, right in the neck, right in the neck)

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Like Bill Cosby said,,,,,, "just a little snakie lick"

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Dennis, I haven't heard a reference to that Cosby album in maybe 40 years! Fantastic! .... SNAKES ... you get outta here!!! I will not comment on the whole Cosby saga, but WILL say that I enjoyed the Playboy Jazz Festival at the Hollywood Bowl for 15+ years (hosted by the Cos) ....

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no email, no tracking number, no bread in the breadbox. Sure hope this is not the one that gets "lost in the mail".

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